The hon. London breed good morning everyone and thank you so much for joining us. As civic demonstrations continue around the world, we are emboldened by the protests and the calls for action to address the racial injustices and inequities in policing and Law Enforcement. These protests come at a time when our communities have been struggling even more because of the coronavirus. For too long black people have been subjected to abuse at the hands of those in power. Now is the time that we can make sure that the demonstrations that we see are translated into real action. As has sadly been demonstrated by the death of george floyd, black communities are also disproportionately represented in our criminal Justice System so reforms go hand and hand both around Police Reforms and criminal justice reforms as well. Weve seen in San Francisco a lot of real change but also knowing that we have a lot more to do. So we are really excited with this panel here today to talk about the work that San Francisco has already done but also our commitment to doing even more including using the police in response to noncriminal activities addressing police biases and strengthening our ability and promoting economic justice. If were going to make real change we need to fundamentally change the nature of policing itself. Here is an incredible opportunity, and so todays conversation will discuss other paths, criminal justice reforms that have been made in San Francisco, and joining us today, i am so excited to have van jones here. Now people know about his work around criminal justice reform, environment justice and other things but i remember when i was living in public housing, that was a time when African Americans would not always standup to the police. You would see this black man, van jones, on the news whenever there was an injustice, calling it out and pushing for a change. Hes been doing this work for over 25 years and just imagine, at a time when it was not popular, that he especially as an African American man was a target, he had the courage to step up to fight, and hes still fighting. Thank you so much to van jones for joining us today. We also have board of equalization chair malia cohen, who when she and i were on the board of supervisors we led so many Police Reforms. She was instrumental in banning the chokehold and other policies that we are now implementing in San Francisco even when others attacked her, when they came after her, she stood strong, she stood tall and now, as a result of her work we have a separate office of Police Accountability that she brought to the ballot and we worked together to do some Amazing Things in our Police Department. Welcome, malia cohen, and finally, we have police chief bill scott. Chief scott has also been a partner for pushing for these Police Reforms here in San Francisco, and we all know that change is not easy, but hes been committed to working with our communities and working for change because we want better not only for our Police Department we want better for our community. So thank you all so much for joining us here today. Im really excited to get us started on this panel, and i want to really start with you, van. The fact is i mean the fact is youre still here doing this work, and now, you have more people who are doing this work. And when you were doing this work you were criticized you were discriminated, you were threatened. At that time there were a lot of beatings because i remember seeing them my he have personally. There was no Police Accountability then. Tell me what does it mean to see it right now . First of all, its a crazy experience. To see you the mayor, its just that, its a whole word. To be looking at you malia and to be looking at chief scott, i dont think people understand what it was like just in the 90s in San Francisco. I mean we literally had a shoot first ask first, ask questions later policy. I look back to when i was a kid, and i thought, what was i doing . In San Francisco, we had a policy of shooting pepper spraying and beating African Americans to death. Sean williams beaten and pepper sprayed to death by a Police Officer named mark andaya. We finally rose up and said we had enough. I remember that. We would go to 850 bryant and we would use that, we would use that Public Comment to turn the Police Commission meetings into public rallies, and we finally got rid of that Police Officer. That finally put me on the National Stage because no one had gotten a Police Officer fired in 30 years. I cannot tell you how important it is what youre doing. It is very hard. People need Law Enforcement. We just want Law Enforcement. We want the police to obey the law, and we want them to play their lane and let the counselors play their lane let the yoga instructors play their lane let everybody play their lane. But when the Police Officers are given too many jobs to do and too little oversight thats what were going to have were going to have homelessness is a police issue, drug addicts are a police issue. When kid throws an eraser its a police issue. Everything is a police issue. I just want to say that i cannot tell you how important it is for you to create a model, a reinvented Police Presence in San Francisco that that can license people across the country to do the same thing. I dont want to go down memory lane. Weve got too many problems right now, but at this time a trip 25 years later, to see people like you and the chief talking about things we were talking about 25 years ago. The hon. London breed yeah it is amazing. And when you think about it 25 years, and sadly, we still see African American men for the most part losing their lives at the hands of Law Enforcement. The hon. London breed and the question i ask myself is why is it always African American men . We have a lot of wonderful officers out there developing relationships, trying to work with the community. I grew up not trusting Police Officers and to bridge that gap was important, but we also know that there are racist cops there are cops that dont see African Americans as human beings and thats at the core of what we need to dismantle. So its not just the policies its how do we completely rid our departments of people who have a problem with black people with lgbtq people with Chinese People with folks who are different than they are . Im trying to figure out what to call you, chair cohen because im used to calling you supervisor but im so glad that you could join this conversation because you were so heroic. I was focused on Police Reform but you took it to a whole nother level, and you just ran with it. As a member of the board of supervisors, you didnt have to attend Police Commission meetings but you sat there for hours. And the time you invested in getting rid of the chokehold and the attacks on the Police Officers association, and all the stuff that you pushed for, you see what were implementing. As you support policies we used to have seven officer involved shootings, and then, over the past two years we have seen three officer involved shootings, which none have resulted in death. What do you think about the work youve done, and what do you think we have to do . Because we definitely have more to do. Good morning, chief and van and mayor. Its good to be with you on this panel and be part of this incredible moment in time. You know mayor breed, i really its a mixed emotion right . So in many ways, im proud that we have the foresight to start these processes. We used the board of supervisors, and we also used the Police Commission, two very very important systems that are complementary to each other. But also, i feel like we still have a lot of work to do. I feel like we need to continue to roll up our sleeves and to better our best to continue to have thoughtful conversations on police matters. When we arere talking about Law Enforcement, i want to focus on at least in our city we focus on San FranciscoPolice Department but we also need to focus on those in custody and the San Francisco sheriffs department. I think one of the entities that deserves the highest credit to our citys success really has to do with civilian oversight. Weve got a great Police Commission and we need to continue to strengthen that commission. I am proud of the department of Police Accountability that we that got passed in 2016 that voters approved with over 70 . So there is a lot of things to be proud of. But looking forward, and looking into the future theres still much work that needs to be done. So im delighted to be on this today with you and chief and van so that we can continue to talk about and make these changes. Im an instigator. You are, van. You are. And i appreciate these conversations. Theyre uncomfortable, and its time to be uncomfortable because now, were having an honest conversation about the changes that we need to make for black people in this country. I talk about this as mayor and when i was supervisor, and its not just because im black. African americans are less than 6 of the population in San Francisco, but almost 40 are homeless. And almost 50 are involved in the criminal Justice System. The kids are dropping out of high school. Everything you talk about, were disproportionately represented, and everything that we talked about we cant congratulate ourselves until theyre a part of the success, and that success means a reform of policing. Chief scott youve been a member of the department for a few years now. Youve been criticized about the implementation of the reform. The obama administration, in 2015, issued recommendations around 21 Century Policing and we committed, in San Francisco back then that we are going to implement those recommendations. There have been a lot of criticism because out of the 273 recommendations, San Francisco has only been able to implement 61. Now its not about checking a box. We want to make sure people understand when theyre doing antibias training, when theyre doing deescalation training that they get it. So tell us why things are moving so slowly and what can we expect moving forward, and how are we going to get to a better place around policing in our city . Yeah thank you mayor breed. Let me start off by answering your question about reform. 272 recommendations that process was a longtime process in terms of what got us there. And really, what got us there are the officerinvolved shootings that san franciscans were outraged about. So of those 272 recommendations 58 of them specifically deal with use of force, and i am happy to report to you all that we were in compliance with according to the department of justice on over half of our use of force revisions. Ill back up a step further in terms of the time that it takes. Reform is not like you just said in there a checked box process, it is not that. Even with the 61 recommendations that we have completed, one of the things that we had to work on was whats the Continuous Improvement loop . So weve completed the recommendation but what we had to put in place were systems of accountability so we dont rest on our successes and say were done. And when the california d. O. J. Looked at our work you know a lot of our work got kicked back for just that reason. We had cannot the work that we needed to do but its whats next on the forefront. We had to go back like our officer involved shootings, we had town hauls. Its good for the communities to be transparent, to get the community have a say in letting us know what theyre thinking feeling, but that recommendation even though we were doing town hauls before i got here. What they found was we didnt have a feedback loop to converse with the community and each other after the town haul to say what can we do better . So we had to go back and institute a feedback loop to make sure that every time we have an incident that we continue to look at it critically, and we continue to get better. Let me say this and not to be too long winded for all of you on the call, i and many of you applaud your leadership because somebody had to step out and be the first one. Often times im not a biker, but i know a lot of bikers. They always talk about the first one in line, everybody goes behind them because its easier to follow. You were the first one in line, and strafsthat was instrumental to get us to successes. Mayor breed, you had the same experiences in terms of being a leader. What youre trying to do in terms of redirecting our resources, thats leadership. Other people jumped behind you and said were going to do this, too. But what mr. Jones did back 25 years ago thats not easy, but it makes it easier for people to stand behind you and push so i just want to say its a challenge, but were making progress and we will continue to go. The hon. London breed chief, i just want to say that San Francisco is one thing, and we still have our problems, but when you look at whats still happening and i try not to get emotional but what i saw in the video with george floyd, and even mario woods here in San Francisco. And when i see these things happen im thinking about my brother, im thinking about my cousin and others and even those that i helped raise in this community and the fillmore, all black men right . And then, i feel like why . Why is it always us and how this conversation now what people saw, weve been forced to live with it. Weve had no choice. But now, others are starting to emerge and look at this incredible opportunity. So i wanted to hear from you, you know, what do you think is going on nationally as to why were here and do you think its going to lead to national change with Law Enforcement in our country . I think it is we have the opportunity here. Listen in the past two weeks, youve seen the emergence of a conversation on race. Most of the time were getting gaslit; people saying oh well, he was running, the police had to make a quick decision, and so people were getting desensitized to what we are seeing. But this was a lynching, a lynching. A white man strangling a black man to death, and his face looking peaceful the whole time. The only threat was the cops. You have to watch it one minute, two minutes, three minutes, four minutes hes calling for his mother. His mothers been dead. Five minutes urinating on himself. People screaming, youre killing him. Five times he said he cant breathe. Weve been lynched for 400 years, but youve never seen it on a billion cell phones at the same time. Youve never seen it on 1 billion cell phones at the same time. In the 50s a generation of black people when they got to campus campuses in the 50s they took off. The picture the Television Pictures of those dogs being sicced on children in birmingham in 63, the whole world moved. That young child who held that video camera put a shard of glass into every video camera in the planet, and so now they are a part of that they dont know what to do and that creates an opportunity for people to say hey, we have ideas. Weve been trying to tell you, and we have a perfect video of a perfect murder in daylight with cell phone cameras and body cameras on. I know you get it now. What do we do . Im part of a National Movement matt haney your good friend matt haney and i created something called cut 50 several years to try to get some bipartisan support on that movement. We now have republicans and democrats trying to Work Together in congress right now to try to do something right now, to try to get a bill passed. All of these steps that weve been taking along the way have brought us to this point. I believe that you have 30 to 40 million white people in america right now who maybe believe three things. Number one racism is real or more real than we thought somethings wrong with the system when it comes to police and criminal justice, and what can i do . Im going to tell you as an old guy, thats a miracle. Ive never seen that and so i do think more is possible. We have to be very, very clear that at the end of the day, we have to reimagine and reinvent policing itself. The kids are saying defund the police defund the police. Everybody is mad at the kids for saying that. But if you double click on that defund the Police Slogan i understand that people dont like that the ideas are about reinventing and reforming the police and giving them the right resources to social services and everything so the police dont have to do everything. So theres something now out there that can do that. But what i say to you is this no longer being gaslit every time we Say Something is happening thats racial and having to climb a 1,000mile mountain of proof when we know what the hell is going on and everybody else. When nascar says you cant bring confederate flags anymore, when the nfl supports people kneeling, theres something happening. You the hon. London breed you have people stepping down from boards saying put a black person in my place. You have juneteenth celebrations and a lot of folks dont even know what juneteenth is. Ive got to say part of it is i pray that this is not a fad for people you know . I want this to be real and i also dont want people to keep treating this you know in some ways, like a joke. Theres a lot of blood, sweat and tears that have gotten us to this moment and so i want us to be active in this energy for getting change. Eric garcetti in los angeles was one of the first to say im going to redirect funding for the Police Department to programs in the African American community, im like, how did you do that . He said hed already been working on it. He already had an amount, hed already been working on it. Im like not trying to jump on the band wagon but at the same time when i look at the Police Budgets and i look at the African American community, and weve been talking about reparations and the need to invest in the African American community in this city, this is a need. This is not about a fad this is about we have to be deliberate. And were not saying the Police Department were not saying we dont need Police Officers. Thats exactly what youre talking about reenvision reenvision. So when barbecue becky is saying im in the park and youre not supposed to barbecue in the park and theres some black people barkbecuing in the park. Is it a dangerous situation . Are people getting hurt . Why should police have to go out there in the first place because that could escalate things. Because being theres a tension and a lack of understanding and a breakdown and that could escalate to somebody black getting killed. It could. So we have to be mindful of these things and, you know i want to go back to chair cohen because you know like i said the policies some of the policies that weve been pushing for are now being implemented along with more that needs to be done. So for example one of the things that you pushed for was around you know, antibias training and the goal of trying to make sure that people who have you know some sort of disciplinary issues around biases on their record and those who have certain complaints and other things that were able to basically hold them accountable and we make sure that we hold people accountable in their department. Tell us about what you have worked on and also more that you want to see here in San Francisco which hopefully could translate to other departments in the country. Chair cohen so one of the things that i think San Francisco has done well has to do with crisis intervention training. I think c. I. T. Training is important for every single officer that is on the street, and i would even take it a step further and in addition to kri sis crisis intervention training deescalation techniques to try to calm the situation down before tasers are drawn. Just knowing that the San FranciscoPolice Department does not have tasers but thats always in the backdrop and always a discussion whereas our sheriffs are armed with them. But when i think about bias training, bias training is really interesting, and i remember prior to chief scott serving, when the previous chief was serving, we had many conversations, and quite frankly mayor lee would go round and round there was an attitude that not everyone needed biasunbias training. The truth is we all have biases that shape every day how we all interact. And as government officials, i think its important for us to look at these biases and deconstruct them not only from a Law Enforcement perspective but also you think about your department heads, how they allocate their budget. Which departments are receiving money and which are not . These are all critical pieces to the puzzle because the responsibility does not solely rest on Law Enforcement. What did you say, van . Im just over here having church because thats the basis for peaceful streets. Thats what we want peaceful streets. Thats the ecosystem peaceful streets. Go to the suburbs. You have a whole system that makes it happen, not just the cops, peaceful streets. Go ahead. Chair cohen thank you van. Its a universal attitudinal change, and i applaud you for trying to make a policy change to pull out Law Enforcement officers in an educational setting. I also want to recognize that we talk about neighborhood response and neighborhood watch, being critical and mindful that weve got next door, and often times on next door weve got these successful neighborhood vigilante putting up racist profiles that cause problems. You talked about barbecue becky. We think of the bird watcher in central park about how police have been weaponized and called onto punish, quite honestly, when the person is African American and male. So we need to envision maybe we dont need Police Response for every single problem. Perhaps we need to have a Crisis Intervention Team that is trained to respond to issues that take place at lake mary or issues that take place in places such az centrals central park. These changes are not new, but theres a real commitment and weve got fresh leadership think about it. These are changes that were discussing that you and i havent been able to discuss since weve been serving in office and weve been serving for at least ten years. There was an issue in the legislature yesterday that got out of assembly for and that was bill 209. It was around 25 years. It was the First Campaign that i worked on, works againsted against on legislation to repeal. Now here we are working to get it on the ballot. Now what does prop 209 have to do with police . Oh it has to do with it. When youve got womenowned businesses minorityowned businesses theyre vested. Theyre making an investment in their families making an investment in their communities, and have the ability to stand with an incredible sense of pride. Overall, how that relates to organizations how that relates to businesses were all interconnected. And i think the moment we stop realizing oh, this is a police issue, oh, this is a Mental Health issue, oh this is a womens issue, thats the moment that we begin to move forward in a very thoughtful way. But i think about other reforms. If you want me to go on i can. I mentioned Community Policing being incredibly important. We talk about foot patrols, what that looks like. We talk about increasing Mental Health organizations, funding for service providers. We think about luis gongora, unfortunate situation where he was a homeless man shot and killed in the streets of San Francisco. Now another issue that may be controversial but i want to mention it, we are transparent about officers records, having transparency in two areas the collection of data and the analysis of data. So we understand that chief, i believe this is a is this in the administrative code was it 90a . 96a. Chair cohen thank you, 96a which we both fought for when i was on the board of supervisors that would change the way that data is collected. One thing that i believe in and it comes from my days at carnegiemellon, until we review the data we really dont know what the hell is going on. We rely on somebody else to interpret the data for us but we need to start collecting data nationally. How many black men are killed at the hands of police. We need data on who is stopped and how frequently, what is the badge number and stars of the officer. We are looking for patterns of misconduct and we can glean that out when looking at the data. So pivoting back to president obamas 21st century policy on policing we can do that. We had 272 recommendations made to us and that takes time. Were talking about changing not only peoples hearts and minds, butand believes but their hearts and minds. I believe that people that serve in the Police Department, Law Enforcement the Fire Department we have a calling to do good in every day peoples lives, to protect their rights. So there are good people among them and their very bad people. You know the code of silence, of protecting those that are bad, weve got to change that also because its making all of us in Public Service look poor and unresponsive, and i think that the protesters have really nailed it. I think new york just recently passed just yesterday some legislation to increase transparency on Law Enforcement officers on their background. If youre fired from the San FranciscoPolice Department, why the hell should you be hired in antioch, in the Police Department . Theres always loopholes, and theres gray areas. The hon. London breed and hell say, chair cohen, a lot of the things that you were talking about, the issues around for example their records and other things, those are things that were implementing, those are the next steps, along with the responsibility for an officer to intervene when they see Excessive Force being used. So when you think about it, the fact that those officers in George Floyds case hey, man get off his neck and the fact that they were so cavalier and passive, i just it just baffles me. Theyre hopefully going to be prosecuted theyre hopefully going to be held accountable because theyre just as much guilty for the death of george floyd. Heres my issue the fact that any Police Officer would think what they saw is okay because its a procedure its all in their procedures is a problem, and so i think what we are getting people to understand is you can no longer hide behind procedure. Were changing procedure, we want to see change of hearts and minds, and so this is difficult. Chair cohen in addition to changing procedure we need to change policy because i think policy and procedure go hand and hand. If you remember lawyers that are defending officers that are going through the the the process of their cases being heard hide behind laws so we as policy makers need to be cognizant and aware of that and change that. Something that shirley webbers law was predicated on what we did in San Francisco, in that when you actually pull your weapon and actually fire. Were running out of time and i dont know if the chief wants to Say Something before i do. Ive got a fourminute hard stop. Chief . Yeah i was just going to talk about what chair cohen was saying about the reform. The part of our reform was to work with academic researchers and partners to take that data and run with it. You know for a lot of people who do we associate with crime and why . As a black man i cant tell you how many times ive walked by a car and heard the door lock. And this is im not alone. I know many people but the point is rethinking policy and what the things that we are doing to add to that association of whos a criminal whos not, whos dangerous, we need to rethink that too. Ill tell you with our Police Department, were doing just that. We heard a lot of people talk about our policy on releasing looking photos, and were looking at the policy probably in the next couple of weeks, well be changing our policy on releasing booking photos. This is the benefit of working with actual scientists who know what bias is and what feeds into stereotyping and all that. How do we perpetuate that you know when people are asking for booking photos of certain individuals, people start associating those individuals with being dangerous which changes the whole idea of Police Officers and society in general. We need to reel that back. Thats something in the next few weeks that well be doing. Ive got to tell you, my thinking has evolved based on the data involved and some of the scientists that were working with at ucsf and cal berkeley who are all telling us the same thing. Dont perpetuate the problem with your policies so weve got to pull some of this stuff back. Its really basic to me. Im sure all of you have experienced those types of things as well. But we associate certain people with certain stress. The hon. London breed yeah and chief, we have to wrap it up, so i want to give van the last word. This has been a very insightful conversation. I appreciate all that youre bringing to the table, so i want to bring it over to van for the final word. I just want to say how important this conversation is. There might be people who might be watching this who feel that hey, San Francisco might be better than it was, they might be on the right path but theyre not where they need to be. I have homeless issues i have Mental Health issues i have needs that arent being met. Be encouraged. Be encouraged because i think what youre seeing is a process by which were reimagining policing and maybe reinventing policing in San Francisco and if we can continue to expand the circle, expand the listening, listen to everybody, theres going to what we want is peaceful streets. We dont want law and order. You think of law and order, wheres the disorder . I hope youre safe. Dude wheres the threat . We just want peaceful streets, peaceful streets and it takes a lot to get this. Were going to have to learn some things, unlearn some things start doing some things stop doing some things. But if you feel this conversation hasnt come to you yet, stay on the train. Its going to get this. All these different groups that are saying hey we want reform it is possible if we stick together. San francisco can lead the way like we always have done. We got some little reforms, too, but more reforms are coming. Any way i can be helpful, let me know. Thank you. The hon. London breed thank you, chair cohen, van and chief scott. Im mayor london breed. Lets take this opportunity at this moment to push for real change. I want to thank all of you who have been out there on the frontlines doing everything you can to make sure that there is justice for all of us that we are all seen, that we are all heard, and now is the time more than ever to make real change. We appreciate all of you for joining us again. More to come in some of our future conversations, and please stick with us on pushing for these reforms. It wont be easy, but its necessary, and it will change and save lives for the better. Thank you all so much. Thank you. The market is one of our vehicles for reaching out to public and showing them how to prepare delicious simple food. People are amazed that the library does things like that. Biblio bistro is a Food Education program. It brings such joy to people. It teaches them life skills that they can apply anywhere and it encourages them to take care of themselves. My name is leaf hillman and im a librarian and biblio bistro is my creation. Im a former chef and i have been incubating this idea for many years. We are challenged to come up with an idea that will move the library into the future. This inspired me to think, what can we do around cooking . What can i do around cooking . We were able to get a cart. The charlie cart is designed to bring cooking to students in Elementary Students that has enough gear on it to teach 30 students cooking. So when i saw that i thought bingo, thats what were missing. You can do cooking classes in the library, but without a kitchen, its difficult. To have everything contained on wheels thats it. I do cooking demonstrations out at the market every third wednesday. I feature a seafood, vegetable, and i show people how to cook the vegetable. A lot of our residents live in s. R. O. S single resident occupancies and they dont have access to full kitchens. You know, a lot of them just have a hot plate, a microwave, and the thing that biblio bistro does really well is cook food accessible in season and make it available that day. We handout brochures with the featured recipe on the back. This recipe features mushrooms, and this brochure will bring our public back to the library. Libraries are about a good time. I hired a former chef. Shes the tickle queen at the ramen shop in rockwood. We get all ages. We get adults and grandparents and babies and, you know schoolage kids and its just been super terrific. I was a bit reluctant because i train teachers and adults. I dont train children. I dont work with children, and i find it very interesting and a bit scary, but working here really taught me a lot you know how easily you can influence by just showing them what we have and its not threatening, and its tasty and fun. I make it really fun with kids because i dont look like a teacher. In the mix, which is our team center, we have programs for our kids who are age 13 to 18 and those are very hands on. The kids often design the menu. All of our programs are very interactive. Today, we made pasta and garlic bread and some sauce. Usually, i dont like bell pepper in my sauce, but i used bell pepper in my sauce, and it complemented the sauce really well. I also grated the garlic on my bread. I never thought about that technique before but i did it and it was so delicious. We try to teach them techniques where they can go home and tell their families i made this thing today, and it was so delicious. Theyre kind of addicted to these foods, these processed foods, like many people are. I feel like we have to do what we can to educate people about that. The reality is we have to live in a world that has a lot of choices that arent necessarily good for you all the time. This is interesting, but its a reaction to how children are brought up. It is fastfood, and the apple is a fastfood, and so that sort of changes the way they think about convenience, how eating apple is convenient. One of the things that i love about my program out at the market is the surprise and delight on peoples faces when they finally taste the vegetable. Its been transformative for some people. They had never eaten those vegetables before but now they eat them on a regular basis. All they require is a hot plate and a saute pan, and they realize that theyre able to cook really healthy, and its also tasty. They also understand the importance of the connection that were making. These are our Small Business owners that are growing our food and bringing it fresh to the market for them to consume, and then, im helping them consume it by teaching them how to cook. It connects people to the food that theyre buying. The magic of the classes in the Childrens Center and the team center is that the participants are cooking the food themselves and once they do that they understand their connection to the food to the tools, and it empowers them. Were brokering new experiences for them so that is very much whats happening in the biblio bistro program. We are introducing kids many times to new vocabulary. Names of seasonings, names of vegetables names of what you call procedures. I had my little cooking experience. All i cooked back then was Grilled Cheese and scrambled eggs. Now, i can actually cook curry and a few different thing zblz and. And the parents are amazed that what were showing them to cook is simple and inexpensive. I didnt know this was so easy to make. Ive only bought it in the market. Those comments have been amazing and yeah, its been really wonderful. We try to approach everything here with a well just try it. Just try it once, and then, before you know it, its gone. A lot of people arent sure how to cook cauliflower or kale or fennel or whatever it is, and leah is really helpful at doing that. I think having someone actually teaching you here is a great experience. And its the art of making a meal for your family members and hope that they like it. I think they should come and have some good food good produce that is healthy and actually very delicious. Cooking is one of my biggest passions, to be able to share, like my passion with others, and skills to h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h