When your time is reached i will announce your time is up and take the next person. Well take Public Comment from those in city hall first and open the remote access. Those participating via webex the password is hpc2023 and need to raise your hand using the raise your hand icon. Those calling in to submit testimony. Call 4156550001 access code 26641547364 twice. Again, you need for the item interested in speaking to. To comment enter star 3 to raise your hand and once you raised your hand you will hear a prompt stating you have raised your hand to ask question. Please wait to speak until the host calls on you. When you hear you are unmuted that is your indication to begin speaking. Best practice is call from a quite location and please mute the volume on your television or computer. For those persons attending here in city hall, ill ask you please come forward and line up on the screen side of the room or to your right. Please speak clearly and slowly and if you care state your name for the record. Finally, i will ask that we all silence any mobile devices that may sound off during these proceedings. At this time, ill take roll. Commissioner president matsuda. Commissioner nageswaran, yes. Commissioner foley, aye. Commissioner vergara, here. Commissioner wright, here. Thank you. First on the agenda is general Public Comment. Members may address the commission of items of interest within the subject matter jurisdiction accept for agenda items. Your opportunity to address the commission will be afforded when the item is reached in the meeting. Each member of the public may address the commission up to three minutes. Again, if you are in the chambers, please come forward. If calling in remotely, press star 3 or raise your hand via webex. Seeing no members of the public in chambers come forward, lets go to our remote caller. Hello. Hello. Hi. My name is beth day, i am a writer and director of film and television. I split my time between la and San Francisco. I grew up in the innerrichmond on 17th and geary. The alexandria movie maam, this is general Public Comment for items not on todays agenda. Im sorry. That is quite alright. When the alexandria theater comes you will be able to speak, but we expect the alexandria theater to be continued so will only be able to speak to the matter of continuance, not the project itself. Last call for general Public Comment for items not on todays agenda. Seeing no request to speak, commissioner, general Public Comment is closed and we can move on to department matters. Good afternoon commissioners. Department staff. I just wanted to pull your attention to a new landmarking that the supervisor walton introduced at the lapd land use committee. Introduced land marking initiation for San Francisco fire station number 44 which is in visitation valley. You might remember this building from one of the three properties that sf heritage had been working on this way, so when the staff received the referral from the board, we will happily work on this landmark designation. The other item i want to draw your attention is monday, september 25 we are hosting our open forum for the African AmericanHistoric Context statement in partnership with grj r Davis Senior Center in the bayview at 1736 carol avenue. This should be a really fun and fabulous event i will say. As a way of celebrating San Francisco black history and informing everyone about the good work the context statement has, so if you are able to attend, we love to have you. We do anticipate supervisor walton preparing a few remarks. The event is 4 to 7 at the george r Davis Senior Center, so ill happily forward information on that event. And this concludes our announcements. Thank you. Thank you. If no questions, commission matters. 2, consideration of Adoption Draft minute for september 6, 2023. Members of the public, this is your opportunity to address the commission on the minutes. In the chambers, come forward. Remotely press star 3. Seeing no request to speak, Public Comment on the minutes is closed and now before you. Motion to approve. Second. Thank you. On the motion to adopt the minutes [roll call] so moved, commissioners, motion passes 50 and places on item 3, commission comments and questions. Any commission comments or questions today . Seeing none, i think we can move on. Very good commissioners. Item 4, Architectural Review Committee appointments. So, i like to appoint three members of the Historic Preservation commission to the arc. Vice president nageswaran and commissioner wright and myself. I will serve as the a are arc member at large. As you are aware we have two other commission positions open now and i believe that they will be filled by architects, so once i believe that they feel that they are ready and undertake i think a more technical review of our cases, then i will step down and become the at large member and appoint one of them. If no comments or questions thank you. Very good. Commissioners, that will place us on consideration of items proposed for continuance. 5, 2259202261 fillmore street. Certificate of appropriateness; 6, 2023005134crv. Downtown conversation district design guidelines. It was up for adoption but now up for indefinite continuance. Item 8, for the alexandria theater landmark designation is proposed for continuance to november 1, 2023, and finally, commissioners, item 14 for case 2019017325coa, 109 liberty street. Certificate of appropriateness proposed to be continued. No other items to be continued so should take Public Comment on all matters proposed for continuance. Only on the matter of continuance. In the chambers come forward, calling remotely, press star 3 or raise your hand. Seeing no request speak i think we have somebody from supervisor chans office. Yes, indeed. Kelly [indiscernible] supervisor chans office here to speak on the continuance of the landmarking designation for the alexandria theater. Dear Historic Preservation commissioners, on tuesday september 19, the Property Owners of the alexandria theater time space group llk and i agreed to explore a Development Agreement to develop the theater in 76 units of housing with Affordable Housing on site and effort to preserve the history of the historically resourced theater. The gement agreement will also incorporate Historic PreservationCommission Based on the staff report provided by Shannon Ferguson and i want to thank shaner for her work putting together the report and recommendations. Considering this agreement i like to request the Historic Preservation commission continue the item to a date certain in november so my office and the property own ers can continue to draft the Development Agreement together and present to you the information before you make the decision and recommendation on landmarking historic features for the theater. Thank you for your consideration and understanding. Thank you very much. Last call for Public Comment on items to be continued . Seeing none, Public Comment is closed and your continuance calendar is before you commissioners. Motion to continue all. Second. I just have one comment about one of the agenda items being proposed for continuance, the alexandria theater. I notice in the executive summary it talks about enforcement action, particularly regarding the blade and there was a photo of the blade and im just wondering if we can somehow incorporate more information when Enforcement Actions are being enforced and proposed, because we are talking about Historic Properties and even though it may not be specifically related to the landmark designation, i think it is a very important component and something we definitely should be informed of when things like this are considered, so not sure if mr. Sucray or mrs. Ferguson want to address that, but i want to bring that up. Another thing, we did receive a number of comments and i hoping that the people who did take the time to submit comments can be further informed about process and procedure for landmark designation because it seemed there was misinformation. Department staff. Happy to address. Yes, we would be very happy to include more information in the staff packets regarding enforcement action. Obviously this property you may have seen on the news, our staff and Enforcement Team leader kelly wong also one of our architectural conservators on staff has been working with the Property Owner very diligently on the current Enforcement Actions and so happy to provide the commission more information on future projects and in terms of what the enforcement process entails. And then relative to the request and information we received from the public and the purpose of the landmarking, obviously landmarking can sometimes be a little of a obtuse process. In our specific nance instance we are not able to factor in projeths to a landmark so we dont have a project on file, we dont have a projeblth proposed so take each landmarking desinationing accordingly by article 10 of had planning code. Thank you. Sorry, there was a motion and second. Commissioner nageswaran. As far as process goes, one other thing i wanted to ask that is clarified for folks, even thoughwhether or not this building becomes a landmark or not, is still a category a building, and therefore any changes that would happen, whether housing or anything else has to go through the eir process, is that correct; it would go through environmental review. We consider the property category a for ceqa so any potential projects at the site have to undergo the department ceqa review. If it was a dramatic change such as using just the facade and building a building behind it, that could potentially go through a eir process . Yes. Potentially. Commissioner wright. I wanted to add to that for clarity and mr. Secray can chime in, i think that the landmarking review isstrictly a review of the building and the resource and then any project that comes thereafter may have adverse effects or impacts to the historic features of the building but that is all evaluated and not in the vacuum . Correct. Thank you. We have a motion and second. Indeed we do. On the motion to continue items as proposed. [roll call] so moved commissioners, motion passes unanimously 50. Place under the regular calendar. Item 7, case 2023005133crv. Acoa mpta delegation agreement. This is 2 year update for your consideration to adopt amendments. Good afternoon commissioners. Jonathan vimr, Department Staff. The item before you is readoption of the scope of work agreement. A core function of the preservation program. As reminder and for the public awareness, review of exterior changes to locally designated buildings falls within one of three tiers. A small number of scopes codified as exempt from entitlement provided they meet standards. Those delegated staff for departmentp level entitlement and review before the commission for anything else. As noted in the packet, staff processed over 1200 staff level entitlements in the last decade. At the last update was thorough and little proposed to be changed. Ill be brief with no grand presentation. There are 3 new scopes, tempary art instillation, exterior lieutilities such as gas meters and signage unless exempt from articles 10 and 11. One other change there is no required update, we will update the delegation at the call of either this body or Department Staff as needed. And lastly, i like to read into the record a miner revision to scope 24 pertaining to signage for simulated neon signs. Staff shall review a mock up in order to astes the quality of the simulated light. That is it. Small tweaks but happy to answer any questions and dive into anything you have. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, if thats it for the presentation, we should open up Public Comment. Members of the public this is your opportunity to address the commission on this matter. Again, if in the chambers please come forward, calling remotely, press star 3. Seeing no request to speak, Public Comment is closed and the matter is now before you commissioners. Commissioner nageswaran. I just had one question for mr. Vimr. Can you just briefly for the public to understand if there is a appeal process, what does that entail . Yes. So, each staff delegated entitlement has a 20 daythe code says 15 days, 20days for a commissioner of this body, but these aresent out to every member of the historic preserve vacation commission as well as interested members of the public. Also published online to the case record as soon as issued up and available publicly. Any member of the public may request a hearing and that falls within the 15 days for members of the public, 20 days for commissioner and that happened 3 times out of the 1200 instances. Neither of the 3 was the department determine returned. Thank you. Any other questions from the commission . Motion to adopt. Second. Thank you commissioners. On the motion to adopt the amendments [roll call] so moved, motion passes unanimously 50. Again, item 8 for the alexandria theater has been continued to november 1. That will now place on item 9 for case 20150058950 des. Sacred heart parish complex at 546548 fillmore street, 554 fillmore street. 735 fell street and 660 oak street also a landmark designation. Good afternoon commissioners. Department staff Shannon Ferguson here to present the Department Recommendation regarding landmark designation on fell, fill nor and oak street in the Western Addition neighborhood. The sacred heart nob naib prepared by [indiscernible] the parish complex consist of the church, constructed in 1898 and 1909. The rectory constructed in 1891 and enlarged in 1906. The school constructed in 1926 and convent in 1936. Sacred heart is significant for association with the Western Addition and catholic religious institutions in San Francisco in the late 19 and early 20 century and also significant for the association with father boil pastor of the church from 1968 to 1972. Father boil was a prominent inflelsh civil rights activist in the 60s and 70s. Involved in the black Civil Rights Movement, vietnam war, urben renewal and farm labor Worker Movement in San Francisco. Embodies the romanesque revival style. Also significant for the association with architect welsh. Staff recommends two periods of significance. 1891 to 1936. And 1968 to 1972. The first period incompass the full development of component buildings in the parish complex and the second the tenure of father boil. This recommend aishz does differ from the designation report which has a long period of significance of 1891 to 1972. Two periods of significance better encompass the parish complex association with events persons and architecture. In a effort to provide clarity, staff refined the character defining features from those listed in the landmark designation rorlt and also removed two items from the list of character defining features. The first is the wood connector between the choir loft and rectory in the top right photo. It is unknown exactly when it was constructed and are there no Building Permit for it, and doesnt appear to have been planned as the original part. The second item is in the interior after consulting with the Property Owner of the church, the Department Recommends including only exterior character defining features in the land mark designation to retain the Property Owner flexibility to pursue adaptive reuse of the building. Exteefier character defining features remain the same as proposed during a initiation for the church. I did want to note there is a typo on page 5 of the ordinance. I would like to strike lines 24 and 25 as it refers to the connector bridge. And there is no known public or neighborhood opposition to designate of the Sacred Heart Parish complex. Received many supports of landmark designationed included in your packet and emailed to you. Ill provide additional correspondence received after submittal in the Historic Preservation commission. The department believes the building meets the established eligibility requirements and landmark status is warranted. The Department Recommends the hpc recommend designation to the board of supervisors. This concludes my presentation, and im available for any questions. Thank you. If no immediate questions to staff, we should open Public Comment. Member ozf the public this is your opportunity to address the commission on this matter. Again, if in the chambers come forward, calling remotely, press star 3. Or raise your hand via webex. Come on up. Is the overhead projector working . It should be. If i just lay something on there, will it automatically respond and may i give you a handout here . Im mark riser representing the Historic PreservationFund Committee. It has been a long road. I believe the 8 Prior Commission in 2016 first heard this item so not sure how many were on the commission at that time so if i might briefly provide context. The Historic PreservationFund Committee resulted from a citizen lawsuit over the violations of condition of approval by development of a when they demolished all the Market Street facade. That resulted in a 2 and 2 and a half million payment to the city, but which was overseen by the Fund Committee a group of citizens and you have an appointee on that committee, robert journey and we existed under the umbrella of the mayor office. Our work is largely completed at this point, but this itemwe made approximately 50 grants and to neighborhood organizations and non profits. In fact, our largest grantee by far was the Planning Department itself who received perhaps as much as a third of our funds over time for various context statement and survey work. The landmark nomination which we commissioned for sacred heart was a exception to our process of using a rfp process and waiting for a proposal to react to. The Community Groups nor did department at that time come forward with a proposal to create a landmark case report for sacred heart. We initiated this and turned the results over to the Planning Department. I am in general here to wholeheartedly support a balanced and genuine landmark nomination for sacred heart complex, but especially the sank ctuary building. I am astounded if i didnt mishear shannon indicating that at this moment they are modifying the staff report to you and once again removing the bridge between the buildings. Did ii would ask if perhaps you would claire that that is in fact what is being proposed. I have none the less some questions, which i hope perhaps you will clarify for the public and concerns anytime the report. Is that my 30 second bell . It is. I will be quick. I have those concerns to letters in staff to rich and shannon. I only saw the report or only received the report last thursday about the same time that you did. My concerns have to do with lack of specificity and calling out of the features of exterior significance on the sanctuary building. Clarity over removal of the bridge and i will close there and ask if you would provide us additional clarification on those points. Thank you. Greetings to the members of the board present and those of the preservation commission. My name is robert pritchard, Vice President of the sacred heart choir and member of the save sacred heart and stand torupt parishioners who are impassioned for our church but during the years in exile passed away. More then two decades we strove to seek to get this far to much deserved designation of landmark. For the report, sacred heart was never abandoned. Only upon eviction and suppression and locking the doors did we reside to having to leave. The family of the imminent architect thomas welsh wait to the structure to be landmarks to stand testament to his brilliance. Many long religious buildings long held landmark status. Please add the last church. [indiscernible] Patricia Welsh would stand in front of you today in as well. Since the 80 i cared for sacred heart physically. Financially paid and are did repairs myself when the archdioceseed with not get repairs done to protect the church structure. In my hands i hold the original copy of the National Trust nomination papers as my legal spouse thomas funded this to occur. It was unanimously voted as eligible january 29, 2010. I emplor you to look at the magnificent architect. [indiscernible] hayes vala and Western Addition for many vantage poinlts. There is one other Catholic Church california built in this style. [indiscernible] not iconic yellow brick. It is long ago on the National Register of Historic Places and still allowed to be a active parish. Sacred heart holds the place on civic levels as well. Provided shelter after the 1906 earthquake and stood in solidarity under father boil while a activist during the Civil Rights Movement [indiscernible] Building Contractors the mahoneys and keenens, matthew kavanagh, and now iconic painted lady row. Dr. John legen and family of boxing legend [indiscernible] time does not permit to go into the details of the campus buildings. I emplore you to grant landmark status to this incredible campus. Thank you. Okay, last call for Public Comment. Good afternoon. Simon yip on behalf of the owners. I want to say on record that we fully support the landmarking and im available for any questions. Thank you. Okay. Go to remote caller. Good afternoon commissioners. This is robert churny, i like to repeat the concerns that mark riser has raised for you and since there is a representative of the owner here, i should add it was our impression on the Fund Committee that the owner had no objection to including that connector between the rectory and the Church Building itself as part of the landmark nomination, so im especially curious why that was removed. Thank you. Okay. Final last call for Public Comment. In the chambers, please come forward. Remotely, press star 3. Seeing no additional request to speak, Public Comment is closed and this matter is now before you. Commissioner vergara. If i ask the question of mrs. Ferguson. Echoing professor churny question, is there a reason why it was thought we could we really dont know when it was constructed. There is no Building Permit. It doesnt appear to have been part of the original parish complex itself, and i dont believe it has taken on significance over time. Thank you. Commissioner foley. Thank you. I understand kind of the angst around the bridge, but i think the planning staff and department has done a lot of work figuring out that was a contributor and we dont know when it was built, so as much as i understand some people would like to see it there, i would support the staff. I would like to say that i really do applaud the building ownership supporting the designation and think the building itself a fabulous. I have a little soft spot in my heart around old churches, so thank you very much. Thank you. Commissioner nageswaran. I have a question about the interior character defining features and why that was excluded at this point . And also to understand whether or not they are considered public spaces to which we would have any purview . After consulting with the Property Owner, we did decide to remove the character defining features on interior, just to allow more flexibility for adaptive reuse. I guess it would be considered a public space, since it was used as a church. I believe it is still a church of 8 wheels, so it is publicly accessible at this point. Yeah, i think looking at the images of the alters and also the stain glass, which is kind of inside, outside, i am not sure if it would be appropriate to include character defining features of the interior. And i say that because i would hope that even with potential project that the sponsor would want to maintain that space. Sometimes when we enterwhen we look at a complex and enter the building and it is completely gutted, you have no concept how it was used, and so i think it would be a loss to not have the interior of these buildings, especially the nav and alters and the stain glass, so i think ill ask mr. Sucray haipy to provide insight. Keep in mind this is up to you to decide on what you think is most appropriate relative to the exterior or interior. In most cases when we work on landmark nominations, we do work with the owner to the extent we can to try to balance the needs of recognizing the property, and coming to a balance. We know there has been a project that has been anticipated here over time and we do find that the exterior of the church kind of best and most emblematically represents that, so we do know and recognize that churches, the interior is just as important often times given the emphasis on the sanctuary and the nave and the institution of it, so in this particular instance, we decided the exterior was probably best in terms of representing the history of the property and what had happened there over time. For example, we still would be conducting review under ceqa, particularly for the interior, so any other additional project we still will be examining the interior as well and given what we have in article 10, we felt that it might overly burden the sponsor if they want to propose something fairly significant on the insight of it. So, if it were not landmarked, the interior would be considered category a or yeah. Correct. We will still conduct review of ceqa and i will say just to put a good nod, there are other sponsors that have done very good work on interior of a property that might not have strictly held to the standard, but still worthy of note, so it is not to say it is a hard no when it comes to keeping everything on the inside of a church. In terms of landmarking you mean . Okay. And what sort of protections does landmarking have above category a . I think the key thing about the landmarking is we would put heavier emphasis on character defining features called sout in the landmarking report and looking at potential projects relative to that so to the extent we can avoid removal or damage of character defining features, we can. Keep in mind hpc always has final authority in the realm to basically state something a sponsor might plan overway the character defining features over exterior. I like to hear what fellow commissioners have to say. Okay. Commissioner foley. Thank you president matsuda. I is a lot of experience around churches and they are really difficult to work with, because the buildings are very tall and floor plates are very small. The amount of Square Footage you get out of a building of useable versus exterior and the height of the building makes it really difficult and very costly to do anything to these buildings. I did renovate a church landmarked and i got through the Planning Department working with Historical Preservation in a very cooperative way. Worked with [indiscernible] and we were able to do a fabulous job that made everybody happy so i think there will be anotherwhen they propose a project and come in front of us we can look what they are going to do inside, but giving them flexibility to propose project jz it comes back in front of us is fair and these things are very very difficult to renovate and actually occupy. Thank you. Thank you. Commissioner wright. I think i would add to the previous comments. I think it is helpful to have the list of the interior character defining features in the draft form so i think it is helpful for the owner or advocates for projects to even understand what they are working with and what they are dealing with. Where it might be ideal to try to preserve those features or work around them or incorporate them into the proposed project, so in that sense removing it from striking it from the final is not helpful to an owner unless they have the draft, but i can see both sides of the argument, and the reasoning for doing so. I think we as the other commissioners mentioned, would still have some interest and understanding what the changes or alterations to historic fabric inside the Church Building would be, and would review that under different kind of title, not as something that is landmarked, but i guess it is still eligible, right . The material and features in interior are still considered eligible. I dont know when you split hairs what that means . Keep in mind commissioners, if a future project is proposed here, you will see it. You might notin either instance no matter what is happening, it will come back before you, since the likelihood this becomes a landmark is feasible. If for example it was your intention to landmark the interior, you can give staff direction to flush it out and we can also then provide that direction to the board of supervisors who weigh in as well. But, in either instance, a project that is proposed here would come back before the hcp through the certificate of appropriateness process. If only the exterior is identified, your purview might be limited but you still have opportunity to comment on things on the interior. I was going to ask, what are the pros and conss and what is the real difference if included or not if it is reviewed anyhow . Strict application of what the charge is under article 10 relative to preservation of character defining features associated with landmarking. You can tell as you reviewed potential projects here, if we are impacting character defining features severely, we dont typically recommend that approach on our landmarked property, so if the scheme is somehow doing substantial work on interior that might be sensitive to the interior, to the history of it, we wouldnt recommend it. Commissioner foley. Thank you. I do not know the project sponsor. I never talked to project sponsor, but i do know i think landmarking this is the right thing to do. I think that the staff has done a good job with how they recommended it. I think we all need to recognize that when the project sponsor does come up with a project it will come in front of us again to talk about and weigh our opinion on and i think if we try to start defining interior character defining features we are actually going to make it much more difficult for the sponsor to actually get a project moving, so i personally would agree with the way staff has done it so far, because when they come back with what they want to do with interior, we [indiscernible] that is my two cents from dealing with old churches. Thank you. Commissioner vergara. Im for landmarking this paraish complex. I would like to get back to the bridge in the sky. May i direct the question to the representative of the owners and i apologize i didnt retain your name . Simon. Thank you. Thank you. Would the owners object if the bridge were included in the landmark designation . I dont think they would mind. Thank you. All i wanted to know. No problem. Thank you. Any other questions or comments from the commission . Commissioner nageswaran. On the sort of the academic sense of reviewing a project, i would feel like if we didnt have a date or a sequence of understanding when the bridge was there,b it is awkward in some ways to include it as a character defining feature that represent the significance of the property for a certain range of time, but you know, if there were other reasons like it had architectural merit or craftsmanship that was unique, then i would see it as something you know that might be worthy of being part of the character defining features, but again, we dont have the dates that fit with the significance to be able to say that. Commissioner wright. I guess i would ask staff, do we know when what the earliest photo is or evidence of its existence . Not to put you on the spot. I would need to search for that in the landmark designation report, so if you can give me a moment, please. I just have a few questions as well. For the period of significance, it is now at 18911936 and then from 19681972. Can you tell me what it was before this report was issued when this first came before us in 2016 . It was the entire. The reason why it is now bifurcated, split up to these particular periods is because of the request of the Property Owner or . One of the periodfirst period of significance incompass correction of the component building and the Second Period of significance is specific to father boyle. It was perhaps very long. More specificity . More specific. Specific to these two periods of time . Yep are. Then the question raised during Public Comment about an email sent to you and mr. Sucray yesterday and then commenting there was a lack of specificity, were all these comments answered or all these issues that were in this email addressed to mr. Riser . His email dated september 19. I dont have that email in front of me. Okay. And then, i am not sure what the commission is planning to propose, but i did want to call out the period of significance for 19681972, because this is a period of significance that really focuses on a individual. A very special individual and a very special individual who worked with this particular community that has drastically changed since 1968 to 72 and a lot of people dont understand and appreciate i think what father boyle did to raise the awareness and raise the empowerment of those people who really didnt have a voice in this particular part of the Western Addition. I just want to see howbecause this is probably one of the first times we are really looking to a particular individual as part of a landmark designation, and i want to see how we can maybe highlight this, maybe even further, provide more detail about father boyle and use it as a template as we go forward when we consider landmark designation focusing on individuals, because i think this is a very good example of a very exemplary person who really i think changed the face and really empowered a community that was voiceless at the time. Commissioner wright. Okay. I believe maybe a member of the public may have that at his fingertips, or shannon if you found it. It is page 42 of the landmark designation report. You can barely make out the connector. What i believe is the connector. The photo is rather poor, but figure 58. So 1920 . Potentially 1920. Figure 58 . Thats correct. And can you remind me, the periods of significance were 18911936. To 1936. It would fall within that. I guess maybe in that case the connector was not potentially was not constructed in a planned way, but it did exist before the end of the period of significance in 1936. Commissioner foley. Thank you president matsuda. I think we always sometimes spend a lot of time on things like bridges and i think that when i listen to Vice President talk earlier and you look whathow we would designate the bridge, if it had an incredibly ornate or fabulous piece of work, i could actually see keeping it. I went out there the other day, it doesnt seem very exciting to me, so again, im supporting staff on this. Motion to approve landmark designation. Second. As amended by staff . Im sorry, mrs. Ferguson, when you provided the presentation you talked about areasi dont have the resolution in front of me, but i did want to mention on number 6 in the resolution still did include the interior, and so that was the area you are asking to strike . Yes. We would strike the interior, and as mentioned, there is a typo in the ordinance. Right. On page 5, lines 24 and 25 that were left over from the previous iteration. Thank you. Shannon, you also struck the bridge . Yes, that is from the ordinance. Striking the bridge from the ordinance on page 5. As recommended by staff. Very good. And seconded. Understood. Commissioners, is a motion seconded to adopt recommendation for landmark designation to the board of supervisors as amended by staff striking the interior and the bridge and the typo in the ordinance itself. On the motion [roll call] so moved, commissioners, motion passes 50. Commissioner president matsuda, staff requested the next two items called together. Sure. Very good. Commissioners, on item 10 and 11 for case 2023003438des, and 202300350 sixdes, for the carnaval mural, 13111355 south van ness, landmark designation and mural at 3175, 24th streetlandmark designation respectively. Good afternoon. Before i start my presentation, these are board sponsored board initiated landmarks, so i believe that supervisor ronans office has a representative to speak to these items. Great. Good afternoon commissioners. My name is anna herrera, a legislative aid to supervisor hillary ronan. Thank you president matsuda and commissioners for giving me the opportunity to speak on behalf of supervisor ronan today. The murals before you for landmarking recommendation, the carnaval mural and Chata Gutierrez mural are the south van ness and 24 street. The office initiated the landmark designation because they are located on adjacent walls to each other and often referenced together in significance to the mission, the cultural district and city rich latinx history and culture. The carnaval mural is iconic for representation of the annual carnaval parade and festival. Tradition hosted and led by performers, residents and organizations for the mission for over 40 years. Now the largest multicultural festival on the west coast and celebrate and [indiscernible] of the mission and San Francisco. The mural depicts the Mission Tradition beautifully featuring jaime [indiscernible] mexican immigrant and muni bus drivers who appears as a dancer in the red dress [indiscernible] playing the drums and the brazilian dancer. [indiscernible] Chata Gutierrez was a cultural icon and role model for the Mission District and San FranciscoLatinx Community mpts chata was born and raised in the mission and the first [indiscernible] hosted the radio program. The longest running Latin Music Program in the bay. Chata and her radio show introduced generations of san franciscans and bay area listeners to the joy and beauty and used the platform to raise awareness for Critical Issues facing the Latinx Community including [indiscernible] passed away in 2013 at the age of 60. She was and continues to be a role model, and inspiration for the lanten x community including myself. In the city where latinos make up 15 percent of the population and considered to the city culture and history there is [indiscernible] of the city latina women. The Chata Gutierrez mural is exceptional to the scarcity and one merits preservation. Lastly, as referenced throughout the staff materials in july 20twen in the wake of covid19 disproportionate immact on communities of color in San Francisco and unlawful killings of george floyd and victims of Police Brutality this commission passed a powerful resolution centering preservation planning on racial and social equity. The landmark designation before you are adhere toog the resolutions thoughtful recommendations including preserving the cultural and Economic Diversity of our neighborhoods and with respect to the mission, reinforce the importance of the mission as a center of latino life in San Francisco. Recommending landmark status for both murals is a opportunity for our city to formally recognize what has long been celebrated by the mission and latinx communities of San Francisco. There is also no better mucktd to consider the item as we are celebrating latinx heritage month. So grateful to the work of the San FranciscoLatino Historical Society ann [indiscernible] Allen Martinez and city preservation planning staff, in particular pilar [indiscernible] for all the Research Presented today. Supervisor ronan and the office [indiscernible] for the murals and hope you will as well. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Good afternoon commissioners. Pilar [indiscernible] Department Staff. As you heard before you today, consideration for landmark designation for two murals in the Mission District carnival mural on the north exterior wall of 13111315 south van ness avenue, and Chata Gutierrez on the west exterior wall of 3175, 24 street. Landmark designation of both was initiated by the board and adopted resolutions to initiate in march 28, 2023. The carnaval mural also known as Golden Dreams of [indiscernible] is among the largest and prominent murals in the mission. Painted in 1983 by lead muralist Daniel Galvez with assistance from several other artists. The 75 foot by 24 foot mural is located on the north side elevation of a 3 story over basement residential flat building. As you heard, the mural depicts the mission iconic businesses and cultural institutions along with people dancing and celebrating carnaval on 24th street. The mural asset with significant and are longstanding association with the Mission DistrictLatino Community, celebrating latin music and culture in the mission. In addition, the carnaval mural high artistic value and representative of the Community ArtMovement Mode expression within the Mission District. The Chata Gutierrez mural was painted in 2015 by lead artist carlos gonzalez. [indiscernible] as well as many volunteers. The 28 foot by 22 foot mural located on the west exterior elevation building. The mural depicts the late Chata Gutierrez surrounding by dancers and congo players. The mural attribute to cultural icon of Latinx Community, a asset with association with the Mission District pan Latino Community and celebrate the latin music. This also representative of the Community Art movement as it evolved in the 21 century. The departments believes the murals meet eligibility requirements and landmark status of both is warranted. Character defining features represent each mural have been included in the draft ered onns in the pact. Department recommends that you approve the recommendation for landmark designations for landmark designation forwarded to the board of supervisors who take the final actions on these proposed designations. That conclude my presentation unless you have questions. The San FranciscoLatino Historical Society who have been proponents among proponents and sponsors of the designation also has a presentation. Ann will take the first part of the presentation and believe she is remote and when she is ready i can bring up her slides. Thank you. That concludes my presentation. Thank you. Why dont you bring up her slides and well unmute her. Are you with us . I wasnt able to be here. [indiscernible] [difficulty hearing speaker]. Good afternoon. Ann [indiscernible] go ahead. Your slides are up. Okay. I am here to [indiscernible] i want to thank supervisor ronan and [indiscernible] i also want to thank Historic Preservation staff who providing the documents to obtain approval for this landmarking, specifically pilar and [indiscernible] [very difficult to understand speaker due to audio quality] daniel is currently not available to be here. The other person is carlos gonzalez. [indiscernible] Latino History with festivals and celebration in the Mission District and Cultural Icons [indiscernible] non profit organizations. [indiscernible] come to the mission to meet [indiscernible] the chata mural documents contribution [indiscernible] i will hand it over [indiscernible] to talk about this mural and kookie will follow afterwards. Thank you commissioners for being with us today, allowing us to present these wonderful murals. The carnaval mural, i cant think of Something Better that is living history. I mean, it isi was one of the original organizers of carnaval in 1979 and in 1983 we gotmoney was found to do the mural that Daniel Galvez did. The main dancers were paragraphs i took from 1979 to 1982. After 30 years, the mural is in need of repair and renovation and we had a fantastic response from the community. All the Community Came forward and the city of San Francisco came forward and we got i believe its called a Community Grant from the city, so the city was definitely involved. Carnaval as was spoken is the largest multicultural festival on the west code, so this history from 1979 is still with us and with us every year and we keep bringing in young people. The particular location of the mural is fantastic because it like a welcome to 24 street and the Mission District where it is located. When we did finish the renovation in 2014, we had a huge party out in front of thejaime agular came to that, the guy dancing there, and many people from the mission and throughout the city, we had representatives throughout the city, so i cant think oflike i said, i think this is real living history and i cant think of a better mural along with chata, the mural kookie mural of chata, i cant think of a better thing to do then to give these both the historical designation that we are asking. Thank you very much. Does that concludes presentation . I believe one more. Mr. Gonzalez . He had to leave. Sorry. I can run through the slides. I dont sure. They are great slides. [unable to hear speaker due to poor audio quality] sorry kookie had to leave. He was there earlier. He came at 11 30, so he has been waiting in the audience for a while. [indiscernible] in those murals is they are quite significant people [indiscernible] that came out of the Mission District, which he talked about at dolores park. [indiscernible] it was a special time and still a special time and youll hear from the people present, people that are [indiscernible] and how important these murals are and music and culture of our community. Thank you for giving us a opportunity to present. Thank you. Very good. With that, we should open Public Comment. Members of the public, this is your opportunity to address the commission on the matter. In the chambers, please come forward. Remotely, press star 3. Honor to be here today. I never thought i would be here today. Im a native of mission in San Francisco. How you doing, brother . I have been involved with carnaval the last 45 years. I was a young boy and wanted to learn how to play music and used to watch i love lucy and rickey ricardo, and carnaval came along and made that realty and i have beeni had every position you could think. A security coordinator one year, volunteer coordinator. Built and designed floats. Yfs the music director one year and then eventually became the director and producer and executive producer and serve as ceo. I got to tell you, when this mural was created, it brought so much joy to so many of us, because it really told our story. And thats what the murals in our community do, tell our stories about who we are and what were about. And having born and raise d in the mission at age of 67, i have seen a lot from the dot com boom to tech to gentrification, people i grew up with pushed out. People i grew up with and dearly love. But the murals still stayed there and those are things i think that kept those who were still there really kept us and gave us some joy, and so i think it is important that today when you vote you think about the impact you are doing. You today are part of history for our community and preserving our culture and most important our history. Music gives us joy and why have been involved with carnaval, it fed me. Today music from i know from columbia, cuba, perto rico, brazili dont know the music but know the bands and traditional [indiscernible] and everything that is involved, including food, i love to eat, and thats what brought me a lot of joy, so thank you and hope you vote unanimously in support of this historic landmark. Thank you. I love your hat. Thank you. Hello mr. Martinez. Hello. Good afternoon commissioners. Allen martinez, and i am a member of the San Francisco latino historical certify but speaking for myself. One thing hasnt been mentioned that i think needs to be pointed out,ic if you have been out there, you see what a commanding presence on the street these two murals have. They are really monumental in scale, and they were created with a great deal of skill that you have to think about to appreciate being readable from the street, and these figures are of a scale that can be read and understood from the street. To me this is kind of grassroots placemaking at its finest. This came from the community, it creates a sense of place as mentioned at thenear the junction between 24th and Mission Street and i think something tremendous and unique would be lost if there wasnt a attempt to protect these murals. Not just the history it represents and history of the creation, but just the place that they create is really quite remarkable. Thank you. Good afternoon commissioners. My name is [indiscernible] i am Second Generation carnaval. Im now the extechive director of carnaval. My mom was pregnant on a float with me 30 plus years ago in may, so this feels full circle to be present and advocate for these murals, specifically carnaval as well to be designated landmarks. As many mentioned, carnaval is the largest multicultural celebration. We bring over 400 thousand people on two days, right . 200 businesses get impacted positively so thats great for our local economy, and down that same block on 24th street over 2000 artists parade and celebrate culture language and music and they pass by that mural and it is like a saint to us. We appreciate it for carrying the weight of our stories and everyone in carnaval does that in some shape or form, whether you are part of the Production Team or volunteer, youre holding on to those stories that history proudly on your back, and these murals do the exact same thing. They do by being more tangible so to speak. It is there, it is present and it not only holds the latinx Latino Community history, but all the people that contribute to carnaval over the last 45 years and that what makes San Francisco and the mission and carnaval so special. Multiculture. Over 150 years our people are displaced. We arrived in the 70 in the mission and we have been continuously being displaced but these murals really anchor generations and families and not only do they say welcome to the mission world, it says to individuals, you are welcome here. Your colors are welcome, your faces are welcome, your traditions are welcome, and so i really encourage you all to vote unanimously to bring these murals to the elevation it deserves as a historical landmark. Thank you. Thank you. Good afternoon commissioners. My name is eric, president cofounder of cultural district and one reason why created the latino cultural district is make sure we protect our Cultural Assets because of gentrification and displacement of Cultural Assets were in danger. We are the birth e of latin rock. We are also the berth place of the Mural Movement in San Francisco. We have over 690 murals, the largest public outdoor gallery in the country. Carnaval and chata mural are the center piece of the cultural district. It is why we have the latino cultural district. They are at the gateway to the latino cultural district along 24th street so really represent who we are as a community. It tells our history, talks about our events, it shows the colors of our community and diversity in our community. It is a very special corner that many have used over many decades for performances and these murals are in the background. It is very unique to a lot of performers, a lot of the vendors in area also have used that space, so it is something we need to cherish and preserve for future generations to really understand our history and to continue that in the future, soewe hope you can support the designation of these two muralsism thank you. Thank you. Hi. Good afternoon commissioners. My name is laura yano. I am here not only to represent myself and my own views, but also carlos Kookie Gonzalez, he left and wrote me a couple notes he wanted me to share with you. One, he wanted me to share with you is he felt that designating these murals as for protection was protecting investment of city funds and public art and if they are not protected he said it is a waste of funds as well as erasing cultural footprint and he wanted me to make that note. On another note, ann mentioned the tamale lady and i was involved raising fund for the chata mural, and i was doing research at home and i realized that the building that kookiechosen was owned by the tamale lady who was a iconic figure in the Mission District. Went with a cooler full of tamales to the night spot and there having a drink knh come in and you can buy something to eat. Very popular are. He passed away but does own the building the mural is on and if you look at it closely there is tamales. Her only stip ulation is paint tamales arount. For myself as a non latino person, i just want to say that the murals have an extraordinary significance to the enormous Multicultural Community that rodrigo and others mentioned. Many depict in the murals, it was the music that drew me to the mission and got a job teaching in the mission and everything steam rolled and now been a activist and i just cannot stateoverstate the importance of these icons and i want to finish by saying that rome has the call seem and the Mission District has 24th and south van ness murals. They think very much. Thank you very much. I forget to mention something earlier. Something very important. We all most lost the carnaval mural. In 2013, because the paint was literally just falling off the building, so it is not a building owned by the city, it is owned by a private party, a realtor, a very kind man, but a businessman. It was deteriorating. He didnt have the money to do it. He said you know, i got to do something, either get it or i have to paint it over because i cantthe city will come after me and say it is a nuisance, so we did that. We put our nose to the grindstone and got the city involved, but what got the whole community involved, so we saved it. Thats the first time. Recently the property house of breaks was put up for sale, and it was sold. We were trying to raise money to buy it. It happened so quickly we were not able so we were very afraid that someone was going to want to put condos on that lot and block off both of those murals. So, what you can do today is you can help us preserve it for the future. Thank you very much. Thank you. Seeing no members of the public in the chambers coming forward, lets go to remote callers. Hello. This is brook oliver. Im the attorney for Daniel Galvez and also Kookie Gonzalez and have remarks. Are you able to hear me . We are. Excellent. I think the other speakers have really colorfully and brilliantly explained the significance of these two murals. I think that the thing that maybe of interest to the commission in deciding to preserve them as historical landmarks is the risk that some other building might replace the one story house of bricks building and somebody would build up on that lot and hide these murals. We are seeking for these too made historical landmarks so that it would be more difficult to completely hide them. It would be more difficult to destroy them directly and any kind of building that goes up in front of them, hiding them completely from the community as posterity would necessarily and all most inevbly damage either of the murals. It is all most impossible to build something that doesnt somehow impact the walls next to it. And so, there are limits on the moral rights, the legal rights and copyright for artists to protect their work from being covered and that is what we are seeking from the historical designation is that, it would assist us from stopping those murals from being covered under a number of other laws that protect cultural and historic. So, it is essential to preserve this cultural asset. You have seen how important it is to people, and it is important to understand that there really is no other way to protect the murals accept by the actions you take and really encourage you to do everything you can to see a way clear to identifying these as historical landmarks. Thank you so much. Thank you. Mr. Clausterman mr. Clausterman, are you with us . Mr. Clausterman, you have been unmuted, if you care to submit your testimony. Okay. Last call for Public Comment. Again if in the chambers please come forward, calling remotely, press star 3 or raise your hand via webex. Mr. Clausterman ill give you one more chance to raise your hand again orokay. Public comment is closed and are this matter isthese matters are before you. Great. Thank you. Commissioner foley. Thank you president matsuda. I dont know what to say how great those murals are. I love carnaval and love the murals. Frustrated i was not invited to the party in 2014, but i will get over that. When you go to sf [indiscernible] they have a diego rivera piece of artwork. I have no idea how somebody created the idea and executed it. I could never do it. It is stunning and look forward to this being done and thank you very much for coming out. Thank you. Commissioner nageswaran. Along the lines of what some of the last speaker had spoken about, i too had the question about house of breaks and the adjacent buildings and so, i think i would ask if there was some part of the landmark designation that would include visual or space in front of it . Im not sure if thatother murals landmarks are similarly dealt with in terms of being able to see the mural . So, sadly we are not able to landmark view corridors associated with property, so we can landmark the specific wall that it is on and the actual surfaces, but cant landmark or provide for protections for future for other parts of the property. Because air and light whats that . It is taking basically. And then the other would be speaking about the maintenance side of it. If they were every to replace siding on that building or stucco and if there is a methodology and documentation of that to be able to make sure they have a record of it before they do any major renovation. Correct. For example, the Property Owner in the future needed to do repairs, we would make sure the mural is repaired appropriately and undertaken with a specialist familiar with art conversation and art restoration. Article 10 does provide for maintenance provision required that we put on the Property Owners. Great. Thank you. Thank you. Commissioner wright. I just want to say that im proud to be able to support the landmarking of both of these fabulous murals. I remember i live near this neighborhood and i remember back in the day walking by and seeing this corner and wondering about the mural that was so faded and so happy that it has been restored and conserved, and happy now that there is a new additional mural next to it. The culture of the neighborhood is so important to the city, and i think that we just need to do more to support the Cultural Diversity we have. Thank you. Commissioner vergara. Just beautiful art and encompassing wonderful history and on the carnaval mural, we are talking about all the way to the left, including the wall that is purple with the yellow window. We are, right . Right. Thank you. I think mr. Martinez said it best when he said this is grassroots placemaking at its finest. It really is. It shows, it tells a story, it shows skill, it shows passion and shows community, so i think we are ready to make that motion. Motion to approve 10 and 11. Second. Thank you commissioners. On the motion to adopt recommendations for landmark approval [roll call] so moved, those motions pass unanimously 50. [applause] congratulations. Commissioners, that will place us on item 12. Case number 2022008117pta, 335 powell street. This is a permit to alter. On september 6, 2023 after hearing and closing Public Comment, you continued this matter to todays date by a vote of 50. Dont worry, we are still here. Go ahead, charles. Is commissioner foley returning . Y , i would not know that. Hello. As your Commission Secretary noted, this item was before you two weeks ago and today in response to hpc, the sponsor has provided additional renderingst thaillustrate a horizontally illustrated pergola option, night renders and alternative guardrail post location. Staff recommends that hpc either take favorable action of the original proposal, the alternate proposal, or further modifications so the project is in conformance of article 11 of the planning code. Lusinda and steve are here from stanton architecture for any questions and ill just point out that exhibit a has added conditionsf oapproval and they are related to lighting and attachment location. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Does the project sponsor want to . The images is up now but hopefully speak for themselves. We gave a shot at turning the trellis the other direction. We still think it looksprefer the direction where it is going in and out of the patio and we believe it leaves a view into the building little better and less of a block bar there and hopefully the night images also show how our lighting is pretty modest and not glaring on union square. Happy to answer any questions you have. Thank you. Okay. Is there any Public Comment in the chambers, please come forward, remotely press star 3. Seeing no request to speak commissioners, Public Comment is closed and this matter is before you. Thank you. Commissioner vergara. When we are dealing with a San Francisco treasure like the Saint Francis hotel we want to tread carefully so thank you for giving the two renditions of those pickets. It seems to me that the configuration that has the ends of the pickets facing powell street tend to blend in better with the shadows created by the lines and the stonework on the face of the building. I think i would support the proposal as original. Yes. Proposal as originally given to us. Thank you. Commissioner nageswaran. Yes, thank you for the two alternates. I looked at both of them and felt that the initial reaction i had for the initial proposal was that it looked like i was still looking at something in construction because of the formality of the building, and turning it on the side i felt like it was a little cleaner appearance. It didnt distract my eye, and of course it is very low lying and appropriate for the building, so i would prefer the alternate for both the pergola and also the alignment of the railing posts with the building railing module. Commissioner wright. Thank you. Regarding the various alternates, i tend to agree with commissioner vergara that the openended extension of the trellis towards the street face feels less heavy then the flat end or side that we would be looking at in the alternate at the street face. I do feel that it feels a little bit too prominent for this landmark building and this primary facade of a landmark building and i would suggest pushing it back further from the street so that it is less prominent. I appreciate the new material that has been provided to us to assess both alternatives, and the lighting, but i do think that it would be better and better respect the building if it were held back further from the street. Commissioner wright, do you have a suggested dimension . So, currently it is 8 feet from the Property Line and 5 feet from the rear of the railing. Okay. Alright. Im looking for the right drawing. Sheet a0. 4. Okay. 0. 4, here we go. Actually im looking at a0. 5 with the sections. Im looking sideways. If feels to me it wants to pull back toright now it is extending to align with the jam edge of the window, closest to the street and i would suggest that it is somewhere in between the two windows. Maybe in the middle of those two windows to pull back far enough that it is not as prominent and visible from the street. The ends of the beam s . The furthestnd of the projection of the beam end, trellis end i think want to hold back that far so that they are less visible. So, if we are looking at the south balcony elevation for instance, at the top right corner, it has 8 feet and your suggestion is between these two full height door openings, door window openings . Yes. Okay. So, there is a column support in that same area currently shown on detail 2a of a. 05 and i would suggest that it is somewhere back in that area. Understood. The perspectives give us the besti think the best idea, but you can see in the perspective on the rendering on a. 06, kind of where that column beam line is that the trellis ends would be going back towards. I just think that it would subside quite a bit. Andlets see commissioner wright, if i might make a suggestion for ease. Could we just state that we would have the trellis extend no further then the midpoint between the two windows . Sorry, did you say the midpoint of the two windows . Yes. That is great. Okay, if we are making adjustments to the design, i just recommend the commission add a additional condition to allow us to work with the sponsor on adjusting the posts accordingly, since the concern is more about the visibility of the trellis from the exterior. Yeah. Good. Dont know if other commissioners have thoughts. If i might add in consideration. The location of the post is very specific and lands on girters directly below where they are, and they cannot actually be moved in and out of plain in that direction, so the posts actually have to land there, so if we might at least be able to extend maybe not half way between the windows but maybe the left edge of that right window that might give us more flexibility so it is not quite as stagnant having those pickets land where the column line is would be awkward but it would be structural very difficult to move the post. Your overhang would be shorter . Yes. So, maybe to thejust so we have a easy dimension to think about, maybe to the extent of the surround what is the dimension of the columns . Are they 8 . No. 10 by 10 . Is that right . Yes. Sorry, yeah . Yep. Just for reference, can we just say a foot beyond the face of the column towards the street . I think easier dimension for the staff is more helpful. If we need to make other miner refinements to the trellis design, you visually it does want i think to extend past the face of the beam. You want the trellis to read in that way. Somewhere in between the column and left edge of the window. The east edge so, the left edge is too far still . Kwrrks i feel like it is. The left edge, the west jam edge of the front window is too far, so somewhere between the column face and ideally closer to the column face then the west edge of the window, but i differ to star kind of the final refinement. Great. I think charles, do you understand the direction . Going back to the sectionyou said the left edge of that opening is too short . Too far. Too far. Somewhere between the face of the column and left edge of the window. Ideally closer to the column. So commissioners, as you entertain approval i recommend you add condition of approval that shortens the trellis to extend no further then the left edge of the forward facing windows and to allow staff to continue to refine the design with the project sponsor based on there design refinement. Sounds good. Thank you commissioners. Is there a motion . Did i miss a motion . Sorry. Sorry, what . Motion to approve with the recommended changes. Second. Commissioner vergara, did you have a question . The changes being the shortening of the pickets or the orientation of the pickets . Retaining the initial orientation, but shortening the extension towards the street. Of the pergola beams. Give that a second. Sorry, one other thing, the railing i want to have aligned with the existing, so thats also an adjustment. So, on sheet a. 12, the alternate design . Okay. Thank you. Yes. I just recommend the maker of the motion adopt that as part of the conditions of approval. Im glancing right now. It looks like it is 2c. Here we go. Can you just show me which ones you are talking about . Thank you. Thats sheet a. 12, the aligned alternate design shown in detail 2n. The seconder agree with that . Can i second that . I believe commissioner nageswaran seconded it, since it was her suggestion, i assume she was okay with that. No further discussions rchlt there is a motion seconded to approve with conditions as amended for the sponsor to continue working with staff to continue to refine the design, shortening extension of the trellis between the face of the column and west edge of the window and railing aligned with the existing referencing the alternate design. On that motion [roll call] so moved, motion passes unanimously 40. To answer your question charles, commissioner foley isnt coming back. Thank you. Thank you commissioners. Commissioners, that will place on the final item on your agenda today as item 14 has been continued. Number 13, case 2022005084coa for property at 67 potomac street. This is certificate of appropriateness. Thank you jonas. Good afternoon commissioners. Michelle taylor, Department Staff. The item before you is a request for certificate of appropriateness for the property at 67 potomac street located in the duboce historic district. 67 putromeic potomac is a 3 story over garage wood frame residential building constructed 1900. The Single Family home and features a gable roof, shallow window and mix of wood siding and shingles. The proposed projeblth includes visible alteration to the fronts of the property including replacing the front steps with wood steps to match the existing. Adding code complying stair railing, added new trash door on the front stair wall, enlarging the existing garage door opening from approximately 7 feet 9 inches to 8 feet 6 inches. Replacement of the existing wood panel garage door with a similar wood panel garage door and replacing the existing concrete drive way with permeable pavers. The non visible alterations to the building include, horizontal additions to the Single Family home to accommodate additional off Street Parking and occupyable space. The proezpoed expansions include a full height rear addition that match the height of the existing roof form, includes rear decks and infill of the building light wells. The removal of exterior walls to accommodate the expansion of the existing Single Family home would exceed the thresholds of planning code section 1005s3 by 2 percent. I are also want to note the projethwill be reviewed by the planling commission for conditional use authorization request required for the expansion of a Single Family home in the central neighborhood large residential special use district per planning code section 249. 2 and 303. As part of the review the Planning Commission will take under consideration whether the projbect meets design guidance. The hearing is scheduled for it october 18, 2023. Staff finds the proposal overall is appropriate for and consistent with the purposes of article 10 and complies with the interior standards for rehabilitation. In that, the proposal respects the character defining features of the subject building. The restored features will be based on existing documentation and neighboring properties. The proposed horizontal rear addition maintain the existing visible roof line and will not be visible from the public right of way. And the modest expansion of the upper side walls will be set back from the building face and minimally visible from the public right of way. Therefore, staff determined the proposed work outlined in your case report is conformance with the requirements outlined in article 10 of the planning code and the secretary of interior standards. Furthermore, the project is consistent with appendix n of arttle 10 which lays out additional standards of review for dubose park. Conforms to appendix n, the front steps will be replaced at kind and maintain the existing roof line and not visible from the street. The department received comments from neighbors including immediately adjacent neighbors regarding the massing of the addition in relationship to the neighboring property. The department has not received comments related to changes visible fromp the street. Based on the analysis, staff recommends approval. This concludes my presentation and im available to answer any questions. Ill now turn it over to the project sponsor team. Thank you. Project sponsor, you have 5 minutes. Good afternoon. Thank you so much. Brooks mcdonald, architect on the project. I know there is a lot of material in all these documents but i wanted to highlight the three changes that will be perceived from the public right of way. First is modest expansion of the garage door of 9 inches. Replicating the garage there with a new one. The stairs are beyond disrepair and need to be replaced and brought up to code compliance. Thanks to working with staff, we integrated a lot of detames details to make sure they are replicated using all the character defining features with existing stair and our intention to replicate exactply what is there. We also took other measures at recommendation of staff to take other character defining features into account instead of replacing the windows we are choosing to eare pair them and only replace the glass but keep all the [indiscernible] and lugs and other architectural details. As also mentioned by staff, there is a modest expansion at the top right of the front facade, but that expansion will occur three feet back from the front of the building, so as described in the documents here, it will be minimally appreciated from the street, and i just are want to reiterate it is our intention to keep the facade and all the character defining features as they are today with a few modest changes to accommodate how the family needs to be able to use the house. Thank you so much. Good afternoon. Allison povy. The home owner, 67 potomac street is my home where i live with my family. We bought the home 7 years ago and lived it in since then, and we love that we are in a historic district. We were attracted to the beauty of potomac street. I hope you are familiar with it. We aim to preserve and improve our property with our plan, and we appreciate your efforts and the neighborcity efforts to support that and contribute to the preservation of the park neighborhood historic area. We appreciate that we have a painted lady of sorts on potomac that we are caretakers of, and people walk downi work from home many days a week and people walk down potomac in the middle of the street because it is deadend and watch them from my desk appreciating homes on both sides of the street. I take great pride in seeing them look at the beauty of my home, but it needs some help. Like the stairs they mentioned are visibly deappreciateating. The garage door asking for minimal expansion. Our car has been damaged numerous occasions as we carefully edge out of the garage door multiple times a day and our concern would be, if we continue to have the limitation of the garage door the way it is, would be inclined to park on the driveway and that would deter from the beauty of our street. We regularly make a effort to park inside our garage, and one of the other thingsinvisible things we would be doing is the foundation and structurally supporting this so in the event of an earthquake or some damage that our home, the facade would be better preserved by making these investments we are doing. We please ask for your support on this effort. Thank you. If that concludes sponsor presentation, we should open Public Comment. This is your opportunity to address the commission on this item. In the chambers come forward, remotely press star 3 or raise your hand. Seeing no members of the public in the chambers, lets go to remote callers. [calling speaker name] yes, heather[indiscernible] thank you for allowing me to speak. I live at [indiscernible] we are a neighbor of allisons directly behind them. Can you hear me okay . Just fine. Super. We went through our own house remodel very similar to them about starting 5 years ago and [indiscernible] allison are going through. Compared to allisons, we purchased our house in 2012. The house was extremely rundown, but we fell in love with the neighborhood, and we love the fact it is historic. Similarly, if you walk down pier street like potomac on the deadend streets it is super beautiful. Very proud to be in the neighborhood. Our process, very similar to allison we maintain the facade of the building, we have similar wooden shingles, gables, the famous twin peak roof the only in the neighborhood, and our remodel also had included redoing the front steps, and also completely not compliant with standards. [indiscernible] we also were able to make changes to the garage door to help support the Foundation Better and we also did a completely new foundation in order to protect against future earthquake and ours did include a similar expansion that allison want to do. However, we made the same effort they have with maintaining the facade and making sure that the view from the street was never changed, and it is important to improve the neighborhood and the beautiful [indiscernible] so i am speaking to completely support allison with their project. Mr. Perec. Hi. Thank you. My name is jack perac, also a neighbor of allison and tomaso. Me and my family live at 63 potomac street in the house that is actually quite similar and built in the same builder at the same time. We too have gone through a similar process and have renovated our house while preserving the nature and the street views of the house. I wanted to call and let everyone know we support everything they are trying to do to preserve and improve their property and also the street character in general, so i appreciate your consideration. Okay, last call for Public Comment. Seeing no additional request to speak, Public Comment is closed and this matter is now before you. Commissioner nageswaran. It is my understanding that we areour purview is the right of way, public right of way, correct . Yes. Duboce park historic district, the way that designation was created is it was really meant to focus on street visible elements, and so rear additions are eligible for administrative certificates of appropriateness. It wasit really is more focused on what street visible, so the character defining features are those elements that are visible from the street. Thank you. I had some comments on the rear facade. I deent dont know if we want to get into that. Sure, you are welcome to provide the comments to us and then at the Planning Commission hearing we are happy to send forward the hpc comments oen the overall design and proposal. Okay. I was only able to sort of see the two adjacent buildings in the packet with the rendering you did. One had a peaked roof and the other one had a onesided roof that was a gable. This one removed its gable and created a sort of more linear addition, which really is very ovious, and little modern and discontinuous with the other buildings. I all most feel like the top floor could benefit from a sloped roof of some sort to bring down the prominence of it in the back. And then, as far as just interventions as you are going through the design process, we just had a project that came to us as awhat do you call it . Violation. That along the wall line of design they ended up putting all their mechanical equipment on the side of the building, which was detracting and the neighbors were not appreciative of that, so working with your neighbors is always a good thing, and also internalizing any sort of mechanical or equipment and things like that along the way would be appreciated. Yeah, thank you. Commissioner wright. Yeah, i have one point of clarification. I think i heard thatis it the main front door is proposed to be replaced . Or was that maybe just the garage door kblrks just the garage door. The original front door at the top of the steps remain as shown in the drawings . Thats correct. Is there a reason there is dimensioning on that . [indiscernible] okay. Just for your reference. Okay. I dont have other comments or questions. Thanks. Thank you. Is there a motion . I move to approve. Second. Are you ready . Second. Thank you commissioners. 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It was something that i really enjoyed and turned out i was pretty good at. Thinking about glass ceiling, some of that is really related to being a mother and selfsupposed in some ways that i did not feel that i could allow myself to pursue responsibility; that i accepted treading water in my career when my kids were young. And as they got older, i felt more comfortable, i suppose, moving forward. In my career, i have been asked to step forward. I wish that i had earlier stepped forward myself, and i feel really strongly, like i am 100 the right person for this job. I cannot imagine a harder time to be in this role. Im humbled and privileged but also very confident. So here at moscone center, this is the covid command center, or the c. C. C. Here is what we calledun call unified command. This is where we have physically been since march, and then, in july, we developed this unified structure. So its the department of emergency management, the department of public health, and our Human Services hughesing partners, so primarily the department of homelessness and Supportive Housing and Human Services agency. So its sort of a threeheaded command in which we are coordinating and operating everything related to covid response. And now, of course, in this final phase, its mass vaccination. The first year was before the pandemic was extremely busy. The fires, obviously, that both we were able to provide mutual support but also the impact of air quality. We had, in 2018, the worst air quality ten or 11 days here in the city. Im sure you all remember it, and then, finally, the day the sun didnt come out in San Francisco, which was in october. The orange skies, it felt apocalyptic, super scary for people. You know, all of those things, people depend on government to say whats happening. Are we safe . What do i do . And thats a lot of what department of emergency managements role is. Public service is truly that. It is such an incredible and effective way that we can make change for the most vulnerable. I spend a lot of my day in problem solving mode, so theres a lot of conversations with people making connections, identifying gaps in resources or whatever it might be, and trying to adjust that. The pace of the pandemic has been nonstop for 11 months. It is unrelenting, long days, more than what were used to, most of us. Honestly, im not sure how were getting through it. This is beyond what any of us ever expected to experience in our lifetime. What we discover is how strong we are, and really, the depth of our resilience, and i say that for every single City Employee that has been working around the clock for the last 11 months, and i also speak about myself. Every day, i have to sort of have that moment of, like, okay, im really tired, im weary, but weve got to keep going. It is, i would say, the biggest challenge that i have had personally and professionally to be the best mom that i can be but also the best public certify chant in whatever role im in. I just wish that i, as my younger self, could have had someone tell me you can give it and to give a little more nudge. So indirectly, people have helped me because they have seen something in me that i did not see in myself. Theres clear data that women have lost their jobs and their income because they had to take care of their safety nets. All of those things that we depend on, schools and daycare and sharing, you know, being together with other kids isnt available. Ive often thought oh, if my kids were younger, i couldnt do this job, but thats unacceptable. A person thats younger than me that has three children, we want them in leadership positions, so it shouldnt be limiting. Women need to assume that theyre more capable than they think they are. Men will go for a job whether theyre qualified or not. We tend to want to be 110 qualified before we tend to step forward. I think we need to be a little more brave, a little more exploratory in stepping up for positions. The other thing is, when given an opportunity, really think twice before you put in front of you the reasons why you should not take that leadership position. We all need to step up so that we can show the person behind us that its doable and so that we have the power to make the changes for other women that is going to make the possibility for their paths easier than ours. Other women see me in it, and i hope that they see me, and they understand, like, if i can do it, they can do it because the higher you get, the more leadership you have, and power. The more power and leadership we have that we can put out good afternoon welcome to the San Francisco board of supervisors for today tuesday september 19, 2023. Madam clerk, call the roll. Thank you, mr. President. Supervisor chan. Present. Supervisor dorsey. Present. Supervisor engardio. Present. Supervisor mandelman. Not present. Supervisor melgar