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The world many cup. World many cup. Im im lynch. Lynch. This is being consider this. This is being consider this. More ahead. More ahead. Eric shinseki, secretary of Eric Shinseki, secretary of Veterans Affairs, is out. Veterans affairs, is out. He does not want to be a he does not want to be a distraction. Distraction. Todays announcement really todays announcement really changes nothing. Changes nothing. Its not one person thats its not one person thats going to change it all. Going to change it all. Ttys ttys overall situation. Overall situation. Shooting people. Shooting people. You have to you have to live with the live with the masses. Masses. We do have the best justice we do have the best Justice System in theory. System in theory. The problem is its run by human the problem is its run by human beings. Beings. Human beings make mistakes. Human beings make mistakes. This thing about hair this thing about hair analysis, science analysis, science its a its a subjective nightmare. Subjective nightmare. Landon donovan is not going Landon Donovan is not going to the world cup. To the world cup. Many consider him the best many consider him the best Soccer Player ever. Soccer player ever. A person a person opinion between opinion between clemson and donovan. Clemson and donovan. Its a bit of a pill for him its a bit of a pill for him to swallow. To swallow. We we begin with veterans begin with Veterans Affairs secretary Eric Shinseki Affairs Secretary Eric Shinseki resigning. Resigning. Over over explosive systemic problems explosive systemic problems that that left veterans endlessly left veterans endlessly waiting waiting for for treatment. Treatment. Backing away from backing away from statements statements that just a few that just a few hospitals had hospitals had the problem. The problem. I apologize as the senior i apologize as the Senior Leader of the department of leader of the department of Veterans Affairs. Veterans affairs. I extend a i extend a apology to the people apology to the people i care most greatly i care most greatly about. About. The veterans and their loved the veterans and their loved serve. Serve. President obama said he president obama said he accepted accepted shinsekis resignation shinsekis resignation with considerable regret but he with considerable regret but he now had to go. Now had to go. For now, the leader that will for now, the leader that will help move us forward is sloane help move us forward is Sloane Gibson who will take on the gibson who will take on the reins as acting secretary. Reins as acting secretary. But with but with systemic problems at systemic problems at the va going back the va going back to to its its beginnings, from Silver Spring beginnings, from Silver Spring maryland were joined by rick maryland were joined by rick wideman. Wideman. Vietnam veterans of america. Vietnam veterans of america. Good to have both of you are good to have both of you are gentlemen with us. Gentlemen with us. Lewis, despite the drum beat lewis, despite the drum beat calling for shinseki to resign. Calling for shinseki to resign. There are quite a few voices, there are quite a few voices, you know what big picture here, you know what big picture here, weve treated veterans weve treated veterans poorly poorly pretty much forever. Pretty much forever. Personnel changes arent the personnel changes arent the answer to our problems with the answer to our problems with the veterans. Veterans. Its really Musical Chairs its really Musical Chairs regardless who the president regardless who the president wants running his department. Wants running his department. Its pastime for the president its pastime for the president to step up and fix this mess. To step up and fix this mess. Shinseki is out. Shinseki is out. The internal va report indicates the internal va report indicates there may be even a federal there may be even a federal criminal vision into this. Criminal vision into this. But considering the endemic but considering the endemic problems at the va what do you problems at the va what do you thinks going to actually happen thinks going to actually happen here . Here . Well i that i shinseki well i that i shinseki stepping down is not the answer, stepping down is not the answer, but it is the first but it is the first step and if step and if the va is going to heal it is the va is going to heal it is going to have to heal from the going to have to heal from the inside out. Inside out. Were actin looking forward to were actin looking forward to acting acting secretary gibson coming in. Secretary gibson coming in. Hes not going to be able to do hes not going to be able to do it by himself. It by himself. Hes going to need the support hes going to need the support of his subordinates, hes going of his subordinates, hes going oneed the support of the veteran oneed the support of the veteran community and organizations to community and organizations to pull this off. Pull this off. Rick a new audit found that rick a new audit found that 60 of the pressured to gain 60 of the pressured to gain wait times make them look wait times make them look favorable. Favorable. It it sounds almost sounds almost institutionalized. Institutionalized. Shinseki said are l things would shinseki said are l things would change. Change. That barely that barely rrnlg scratches the rrnlg scratches the surface. Surface. Were not scratches the were not scratches the surface. Surface. We never we never believed that believed that resignation of secretary resignation of secretary shinseki is part of the answer. Shinseki is part of the answer. Its what its what gets this done at this gets this done at this point. Point. First and foremost, managers at first and foremost, managers at every level, in new number 1 in every level, in new number 1 in their Job Description which is their Job Description which is that they that they acknowledge that if acknowledge that if they lie or falsify or dont they lie or falsify or dont tell the whole truth or cause tell the whole truth or cause any of those things to happen in any of those things to happen in reporting, incidents and or reporting, incidents and or statistics, that it is grounds statistics, that it is grounds for immediate suspension and for immediate suspension and proceedings for dismissal. Proceedings for dismissal. Because its become a corporate because its become a Corporate Culture over a long period of culture over a long period of time, that you fudge the numbers time, that you fudge the numbers to look better. To look better. Not just to your supervisors but not just to your supervisors but frankly to the congress. Frankly to the congress. And congress is not clean in all and congress is not clean in all of this of this because while of late, because while of late, certainly chairman miller and certainly chairman miller and Ranking Member mitch on the Ranking Member mitch on the house side and Bernie Miller on house side and Bernie Miller on the senate side are trying to the senate side are trying to get to the accountability get to the Accountability Measures that are going to make measures that are going to make sense. Sense. So that needs to start first so that needs to start first off. Off. Secondly we need the pass the secondly we need the pass the management accountability act to management accountability act to let the senate pass their let the senate pass their version and then negotiate it version and then negotiate it and get it signed and get it in and get it signed and get it in so that people at the so that people at the very top very top of at the Senior Executive of at the Senior Executive Service Level frankly, theyre Service Level frankly, theyre making big bucks. Making big bucks. When you are making more than when you are making more than 200,000 a year we dont think 200,000 a year we dont think that you need the same that you need the same protections as ograde 7 or a protections as ograde 7 or a grade 4 whos making 35,000 a grade 4 whos making 35,000 a year and trying to support their year and trying to support their family. Family. Most of the people at va i will most of the people at va i will say including at vha do great say including at vha do great things for vets and they come in things for vets and they come in because and they stay in the because and they stay in the system despite things that they system despite things that they dont like. Dont like. Because they care about because they care about veterans. Veterans. So first thing is working on the so first thing is working on the culture. Culture. The second thing is redeploy the second thing is redeploy everybody who has trained as a everybody who has trained as a clinician within the veterans clinician within the Veterans Health administration at least Health Administration at least four days to serve patients. Four days to serve patients. The simple fact is there are not the simple fact is there are not enough doctors and other allied enough doctors and other allied health care or clinicians in health care or clinicians in order to meet the needs and order to meet the needs and thats why theyre fudging. Thats why theyre fudging. Sorry to interrupt but i was sorry to interrupt but i was reading earlier that in the last reading earlier that in the last three years primary care visits three years primary care visits went up 50 but the number of went up 50 but the number of 9 . 9 . Thats correct. Thats correct. There arent enough doctors. There arent enough doctors. Thats what im talking about. Thats what im talking about. People who write reports and in people who write reports and in fact are trained clinically, fact are trained clinically, need to get back ton line. Need to get back ton line. Doesnt matter if youre a clerk doesnt matter if youre a clerk or a cook or whatever, when you or a cook or whatever, when you br to get br to get overrun about to overrun about to get get overrun everybody becomes a overrun everybody becomes a rifleman. Rifleman. It is about carry for have it it is about carry for have it veterans. Veterans. The other thing we strongly urge the other thing we strongly urge to this still is a crisis, it to this still is a crisis, it hasnt diminished. Hasnt diminished. For president to mobilize for president to mobilize National Guard and reserve National Guard and reserve medical units to stop creeping medical units to stop creeping patients for top 10 or 12 patients for top 10 or 12 medical conditions that to cause medical conditions that to cause people to die within the vaif people to die within the vaif and screen them right at the and screen them right at the outset immediately and to detail outset immediately and to detail them as immediately as next week them as immediately as next week and keep them there for 30 o90 and keep them there for 30 o90 days while va pluses days while va pluses up, the up, the permanent staff. Permanent staff. Lou you know the american lou you know the American Legion legion supported shinseki until supported shinseki until recently. Recently. Hes wellknown for speaking hes wellknown for speaking out, the need to support out, the need to support American Veterans in 1993. American veterans in 1993. But did veterans think he would but did veterans think he would be a new breed of va chief, a be a new breed of va chief, a creator who didnt care what creator who didnt care what feathers were ruffled and feathers were ruffled and finally save the va . Finally save the va . Lisa, thats correct. Lisa, thats correct. When he was first nominated and when he was first nominated and confirmed as secretary of confirmed as secretary of Veterans Affairs. Veterans affairs. We thought we were getting a we thought we were getting a trail blazer. Trail blazer. We thought we were getting we thought we were getting exactly that person you exactly that person you described, someone who wasnt described, someone who wasnt afraid to roughly feathers, afraid to roughly feathers, someone who wasnt afraid to someone who wasnt afraid to lead. Lead. The dynamic changed for shnlz. The dynamic changed for shnlz. He no longer shinseki. He no longer shinseki. He no longer had aring soldiers. He no longer had aring soldiers. He had a federal bureaucracy he had a federal bureaucracy working under him that didnt working under him that didnt adhere to the same adhere to the same ethos. Ethos. We called for his resignation we called for his resignation and in addition, we dont and in addition, we dont believe that managers actually believe that managers actually sign any kind of document that sign any kind of document that says that they wont lie. Says that they wont lie. Its understood. Its understood. Its just like not killing. Its just like not killing. Its understood. Its understood. When you falsify government when you falsify government reports, when you falsify reports, when you falsify documents for personal gain, documents for personal gain, that is criminal. That is criminal. We dont need to have managers, we dont need to have managers, leaders, se sfort employees wage leaders, se sfort employees wage grade grade ses employees say, we ses employees say, we need to act on this now. Need to act on this now. And Sloane Gibson will be and Sloane Gibson will be working with the veteran working with the veteran community so that we can try to community so that we can try to address this from the inside address this from the inside out. Out. So you know lou, one of the so you know lou, one of the things youve got to ask is, is things youve got to ask is, is it fair that shinseki is taking it fair that shinseki is taking the blame here . The blame here . Because i mean this guy had a because i mean this guy had a lot on his plate, a lot of big lot on his plate, a lot of big issues, homeless veterans, issues, homeless veterans, veterans on welfare, the veterans on welfare, the overprescribing of prescription overprescribing of prescription to veterans in the system. To veterans in the system. Is it fair that he actually had is it fair that he actually had intimate knowledge of this or is intimate knowledge of this or is this an attempt to satisfy the this an attempt to satisfy the need of the public to have need of the public to have someone to blame . Someone to blame . No absolutely not, it was his no absolutely not, it was his job to know what was going on. Job to know what was going on. As a matter of fact it wasnt as a matter of fact it wasnt that he was completely blind that he was completely blind sided. Sided. He was being told not only by he was being told not only by congressional officials but also congressional officials but also his Management Committee his Management Committee that that his being associates werent his being associates werent being honest with him. Being honest with him. As a professional military as a professional military leader it is leader it is your professional your professional responsibility the know when responsibility the know when your subordinates are lying to your subordinates are lying to you. You. Thats what we expect any leader thats what we expect any leader to could and someone especially to could and someone especially in charge of a large bureaucracy in charge of a large bureaucracy like the va to do. Like the va to do. We expect that general shinseki, we expect that general shinseki, being secretary shinseki being secretary shinseki did did wonderful things while at the wonderful things while at the va, with respect to lowering the va, with respect to lowering the homelessness rate, the g. I. Homelessness rate, the g. I. Billion, opening the va for more billion, opening the va for more presumptive illnesses like agent presumptive illnesses like agent orange. Orange. Thats exactly why the american thats exactly why the American Legion defended him when that legion defended him when that time article came out a year and time article came out a year and a half ago asking him to resign a half ago asking him to resign then. Then. We felt he needed more time. We felt he needed more time. We worked more closely with him we worked more closely with him at that time to try give him the at that time to try give him the benefit of the doubt on thighs benefit of the doubt on thighs issues at the veterans hospitals issues at the veterans hospitals and since then we have and since then we have completely lost confidence. Completely lost confidence. Thank you gentlemen for thank you gentlemen for receiving us. Receiving us. From the Services Received by a from the Services Received by a wide range of veterans to those wide range of veterans to those who just got home from war, the who just got home from war, the focus is often political and the focus is often political and the soldiers in battle soldiers in battle could get could get lost in lost in corengal. Corengal. You do taicialg things and you do taicialg things and you have to live with them you have to live with them afterwards. Afterwards. It messes with your head in it messes with your head in every every way. Way. Im not doing this for im not doing this for resignation frorecognition from. Resignation frorecognition from. Im not doing this so somebody im not doing this so somebody goes, wow. Goes, wow. Except for those guys to my left except for those guys to my left and my right. And my right. Antonio mora caught antonio mora caught up with the up with the director, director, Antonio Antonio sebastian. Sebastian. Earlier this week. Earlier this week. There you focus more on there you focus more on battle and what they went battle and what they went through. Through. Here youre looking at the here youre looking at the psychology of these men who are psychology of these men who are up there in this incredibly up there in this incredibly dangerous place. Dangerous place. What message do you what message do you want to send want to send with with korengal. Korengal. Both were both were drawn from footage drawn from footage that tim and i shot in the that tim and i shot in the korengal valley. Korengal valley. There is no narration, no there is no narration, no musical score, no nothing. Musical score, no nothing. Youre there on the hilltop with youre there on the hilltop with those guys. Those guys. It was limited but what i want it was limited but what i want to do with to do with korengal is to korengal is to spernlings, the same spernlings, the same interviews interviews i did right after the i did right after the deployment. Deployment. One of the questions i wanted to one of the questions i wanted to answer is why do soldiers miss answer is why do soldiers miss war so much . War so much . Everyone knows, war is hell. Everyone knows, war is hell. What is it that theyre missing . What is it that theyre missing . Is it an unhealthy response to is it an unhealthy response to war or a healthy response to war or a healthy response to war. War. Youve been a wror youve been a wror correspondent correspondent a war a war correspondent. Correspondent. You hear them say they miss you hear them say they miss going back. Going back. Until you layer a snap of a until you layer a snap of a bullet go by your head or hit bullet go by your head or hit your head. Your head. Theres nothing else like it. Theres nothing else like it. All right, were getting all right, were getting engaged again because our guys engaged again because our guys are are moving. Moving. Oh my oh my god. God. Until then get out of the blast. Until then get out of the blast. And and pretty pretty much oh bleep much oh bleep woo woo hoo hoo your turn. Your turn. Im on fire im on fire what did you conclude as to what did you conclude as to why that why that happens . Happens . First of all, civilians who first of all, civilians who are trapped in wars do not miss are trapped in wars do not miss war. War. Just for record. Just for record. But but soldiers themselves you have soldiers themselves you have to understand theyre young, to understand theyre young, back home they might not even back home they might not even own a car and suddenly theyre own a car and suddenly theyre driving a tank. Driving a tank. These guys were in these guys were in extremely extremely dangerous, they are dangerous, they are in battle in battle constantly. Constantly. You are running the show, but you are running the show, but theres an enormous amount of theres an enormous amount of adrenalin that feels good. Adrenalin that feels good. Particularly to young men, particularly to young men, adrenalin feels good. Adrenalin feels good. Theres a are extreme amount of theres a are extreme amount of closeness. Closeness. Sleeping soldier to soldier with sleeping soldier to soldier with the same 20 guys for a year. The same 20 guys for a year. Another thing that men respond another thing that men respond to very positively, young men. To very positively, young men. You get the twin adrenalin and you get the twin adrenalin and closeness, then you come home closeness, then you come home the a very dull the a very dull society, nothing society, nothing is going on, very alienated, the is going on, very alienated, the opposite of closeness, they miss opposite of closeness, they miss it. It. But you look at the but you look at the conditions they work in, the conditions they work in, the danger, the lack of any kind of danger, the lack of any kind of human amenities that were used human amenities that were used to in this country. To in this country. You think oh my god how could you think oh my god how could anybody want to be there no anybody want to be there no matter how deep their sense of matter how deep their sense of service is . Service is . Apparently after the blitz in apparently after the blitz in london, 24,000 civilians died london, 24,000 civilians died in in london in the blitz in london in the blitz in 1942. 1942. Afterward, there was a wide afterward, there was a wide sentiment that people missed it sentiment that people missed it and they were glad it was over and they were glad it was over both, i think that goes on for a both, i think that goes on for a lot of soldiers. Lot of soldiers. What about you . What about you . You again have been in terrible you again have been in terrible danger many times you dont have danger many times you dont have anything to protect ufers and anything to protect ufers and the the person did you person did you obstrepa with obstrepa with was killed in libya. Was killed in libya. He was killed in combat in he was killed in combat in libya, huge loss for myself and libya, huge loss for myself and for the world. For the world. Within an hour i decided never within an hour i decided never to cover combat again. To cover combat again. I didnt want to do what tims i didnt want to do what tims death was doing to the people death was doing to the people that he was close to, including that he was close to, including me. Me. I was almost 50 years old and i i was almost 50 years old and i felt like there was a point you felt like there was a point you start living for other people, start living for other people, not for yourself. Not for yourself. But i miss it, of but i miss it, of course, im course, im glad im not doing that anymore glad im not doing that anymore and i miss it tremendously. And i miss it tremendously. You spent a lot of time in you spent a lot of time in afghanistan not only for afghanistan not only for obstrepa but for other reasons. Obstrepa but for other reasons. I started going to i started going to afghanistan since the mid afghanistan since the mid 90s. 90s. Its a place i am concerned its a place i am concerned about, and have a huge affection about, and have a huge affection for. For. If the if the president leaves 10,000 president leaves 10,000 are soldiers there he catches are soldiers there he catches criticism for being an occupying criticism for being an occupying army. Army. If he completely withdraws he if he completely withdraws he risks having the whole house of risks having the whole house of cards collapse and having cards collapse and having afghanistan back in the dark afghanistan back in the dark ages. Ages. Not really on a combat mission not really on a combat mission so much, i think thats a pretty so much, i think thats a pretty good compromise personally. Good compromise personally. No matter what he said he was no matter what he said he was going oget criticism. Going oget criticism. I think did he something close i think did he something close to the right thing. To the right thing. How does what youre doing in how does what youre doing in this movie for us to understand this movie for us to understand what these young men, in this what these young men, in this case these young men are going case these young men are going through, because theyre through, because theyre abroad . Abroad . We heard the story of a woman we heard the story of a woman who said if who said if she had read the she had read the companion book the companion book the restrep she restrep she would never have divorced him would never have divorced him because she would have because she would have understood better. Understood better. She said to me during the she said to me during the lecture yeah if i had read the lecture yeah if i had read the book beforehand, we never would book beforehand, we never would have gotten divorced because i have gotten divorced because i would have understood him would have understood him better. Better. One thing she didnt understand one thing she didnt understand is why he missed the war. Is why he missed the war. Its pretty easy to take that its pretty easy to take that personally. Personally. The whole nation sends soldiers the whole nation sends soldiers to war. To war. Its not their war. Its not their war. They just signed up to fight it they just signed up to fight it for us. For us. We sent them, right . We sent them, right . The civilians, the citizenry of the civilians, the citizenry of this country the government sent this country the government sent them to war and they come back them to war and they come back and what they encounter is and what they encounter is people that kind of say you know people that kind of say you know basically how did your war go . Basically how did your war go . Its as if we dont own it. Its as if we dont own it. And what im helping my film and what im helping my film does is allow civilians to does is allow civilians to understand a little bit better understand a little bit better and soldiers to understand a and soldiers to understand a little bit better how those little bit better how those experiences affected them. Experiences affected them. It affected them in very good it affected them in very good ways and very bad ways and they ways and very bad ways and they both have to be understood. Both have to be understood. Korengal goes a long way korengal goes a long way towards that understanding. Towards that understanding. Thank you. Thank you. York. York. It will open up in summer. It will open up in summer. The First District to get the First District to get rid of Public Schools entirely. Rid of Public Schools entirely. Also forensic evidence has put also forensic evidence has put countless people behind bars. Countless people behind bars. But what happens when human but what happens when human error gets in the way. Error gets in the way. Well hear from an fbi well hear from an fbi whistle whistle blower. Blower. In one of americas most in one of americas most elite. Elite. Criminal labs. Criminal labs. E e nonchenew orleans will begin tht nonchenew orleans will begin tht school year with an all Charter School year with an all Charter School school district. District. Louisiana congressman steve louisiana congressman steve scali srveglise. Scali srveglise. The Charter School movement the Charter School movement has literally has literally transformed the transformed the Public Education system. Public education system. In new orleans. In new orleans. Before creercht, 75 katrina, 75g before creercht, 75 katrina, 75g schools. Schools. Today less than 15 of those today less than 15 of those students are attending schools students are attending schools with either a d or f with either a d or f rating. Rating. Advocates for Charter Advocates for Charter School, school, are quick to are quick to note, whats lost note, whats lost when traditional Public Schools when traditional Public Schools spearts. Spearts. Joining us are joining us are nola and nola and danielle. Danielle. Danielle, the statistics are danielle, the statistics are touted every. Touted every. The High School Graduation rate the High School Graduation rate was about 54 and 7,000 teachers was about 54 and 7,000 teachers and Public School employees were and Public School employees were fired. Fired. The Recovery School district the Recovery School district took over and about four fifths took over and about four fifths of the schools and since then of the schools and since then most of the schools have become most of the schools have become Charter Schools and as of last Charter Schools and as of last year the Graduation Rate was year the Graduation Rate was above 75 . Above 75 . A a Tulane Tulane University study shows University Study shows the l Charter Schools have had a the l Charter Schools have had a positive effect, do you agree . Positive effect, do you agree . Everything has changed. Everything has changed. So many things have changed in so many things have changed in the School System here since the School System here since katrina. Katrina. As you said, the state took as you said, the state took over over about about fourfifths of the fourfifths of the schools. Schools. There were too many school seats there were too many school seats for kids even before katrina. For kids even before katrina. Among the changes theyve made among the changes theyve made they have turned most not all of they have turned most not all of the schools into charters. The schools into charters. Theres still going to be five theres still going to be five traditional Public Schools in traditional Public Schools in the city in the fall that are the city in the fall that are run by run by the the local i dont local i dont Orleans Orleans district. District. You have to enter a lottery and you have to enter a lottery and choose and be assigned to a choose and be assigned to a Public School here. Public school here. Many, many issues have been many, many issues have been changed. Changed. One of the schools that oprah one of the schools that Oprah Winfrey gave a Million Dollars winfrey gave a Million Dollars to, its also known for pretty to, its also known for pretty rigid discipline liberal rigid discipline liberal suspensions and even civil suspensions and even civil rights complaints. Rights complaints. What are the issues there and what are the issues there and how much do they have to do with how much do they have to do with a Charter School versus a public a Charter School versus a Public School education . School education . Question. Question. First of all, there are many first of all, there are many districts in the country that districts in the country that are trying give administrators are trying give administrators at the schools charter like at the schools charter like freedoms without actually making freedoms without actually making them into charters. Them into charters. The idea is that School Leaders the idea is that School Leaders and School Groups here have the and School Groups here have the opportunity to innovate and to opportunity to innovate and to do what they think is going do what they think is going owork to get test scores up and owork to get test scores up and get about kids a better get about kids a better education. Education. And certainly some of the and certainly some of the charters not all of them but charters not all of them but some have these really rigid some have these really rigid discipline codes so you have to discipline codes so you have to hold your hand up in a certain hold your hand up in a certain way, youre supposed to walk on way, youre supposed to walk on the right side of the hall, the right side of the hall, there are a lot of rules about there are a lot of rules about how those things work. How those things work. And critics say and critics say that thats that thats would you want your kid going to would you want your kid going to that . That . They say is it necessary . They say is it necessary . Advocates would say if the kids advocates would say if the kids arent calm and quiet and paying arent calm and quiet and paying attention nobody can learn attention nobody can learn anything. Anything. And Charter Advocates will point and Charter Advocates will point out that because itsal out that because itsal its an its an allchoice city, there certainly allchoice city, there certainly have been complaints coming in have been complaints coming in about the collegiate charters. About the collegiate charters. On the other hand, parents that on the other hand, parents that ive spoken to say thats what ive spoken to say thats what they want for their kids. They want for their kids. Theres question about the theres question about the quality of education, and racial quality of education, and racial concerns concerns about racial equality about racial equality and even the loss of parental and even the loss of parental control. Control. Are those common complaints . Are those common complaints . I would say the whole i would say the whole question of what constitutes question of what constitutes control is really complex and control is really complex and its a very bizarre system, its a very bizarre system, right . Right . So on the one hand, the locally so on the one hand, the locally elected school board oversees elected school board oversees the controls fewer than 20 of the controls fewer than 20 of the 80plus Public Schools in the 80plus Public Schools in the city. The city. On the other hand, charters have on the other hand, charters have these local boards so theres a these local boards so theres a lot of people in the city who lot of people in the city who are involved in the schools in are involved in the schools in some some way way. And then about the race issue. And then about the race issue. New orleans is an 86 black new orleans is an 86 black Public School system. Public School System. Its an overwhelmingly low its an overwhelmingly low income School System. Income School System. So there are many good schools so there are many good schools that are almost entirely black that are almost entirely black and very poor. And very poor. But its also true and this is but its also true and this is something that was before something that was before katrina as well, that there are katrina as well, that there are schools that have a lot more schools that have a lot more white kids and a lot more white kids and a lot more wealthy kids. Wealthy kids. For the most part its the same for the most part its the same schools before katrina and now schools before katrina and now there are those really good there are those really good schools. Schools. So i think mostly a lot of so i think mostly a lot of people will tell you its a people will tell you its a class issue. Class issue. The parents who are more savvy, the parents who are more savvy, who are more withit are going who are more withit are going to do what they can to apply to to do what they can to apply to the better schools and try get the better schools and try get their kids into those better their kids into those better schools. Schools. And then if they cant get those and then if they cant get those schools into the better schools schools into the better schools those are the parents who will those are the parents who will put their kids into the private put their kids into the private schools instead. Schools instead. Thank you for joining us. Thank you for joining us. Thank you. Thank you. Solid solid science . Science . It durns it durns turns out that what is used turns out that what is used to put criminals in jay is to put criminals in jay is flawed. Flawed. The latest ever the al the latest ever the Al Jazeera Jazeera america series the system, america series the system, calling out calling out blatant wrongdoing. Blatant wrongdoing. Ed from ed from whitehurst ball two whitehurst ball two you the whistle on the crime you the whistle on the crime lab. Lab. I walked into americas i walked into americas wonder land as a science. Wonder land as a science. There was not a 69. There was not a 69. This thing about hair analysis this thing about hair analysis is not science. Is not science. It is a subjective nightmare. It is a subjective nightmare. I wrote 237 letters over a i wrote 237 letters over a period of five years to the period of five years to the Inspector General. Inspector general. There were issues of reports there were issues of reports being rewritten without my being rewritten without my knowledge or authorization. Knowledge or authorization. Equipments dirty, testimony is equipments dirty, testimony is given way beyond a persons given way beyond a persons expertise. Expertise. Joining us from joining us from raleigh, raleigh, north carolina, the north carolina, the latest latest edition of edition of the system debuts the system debuts here on sunday at 9 00. Here on sunday at 9 00. We watch Law Enforcement on tv we watch Law Enforcement on tv with law and order and you are with law and order and you are saying its far from foolproof. Saying its far from foolproof. How so . How so . Well, for too many years well, for too many years Forensic Science labs were not Forensic Science labs were not audited, there audited, there was no oversight. Was no oversight. There was very little training, there was very little training, totally totally overwhelmed. Overwhelmed. This fascination we have with this fascination we have with forensic Forensic Science that we think science that we think it will solve all the problems, it will solve all the problems, many people foal that burden and many people foal that burden and started doing something that started doing something that wasnt science. Wasnt science. You specifically blew the you specifically blew the whistle on the crime lab, that whistle on the crime lab, that holds itself up as a god like holds itself up as a god like corruption. Corruption. How much wassing corruption . How much wassing corruption . I think a small amount was i think a small amount was corruption. Corruption. When people find out they can when people find out they can get away with something and get away with something and decide other peoples lives they decide other peoples lives they fall prey to that. Fall prey to that. I think a lot of that had to do i think a lot of that had to do with the fact that forensic with the fact that Forensic Science was in a world in a box science was in a world in a box by itself. By itself. There was no outside oversight, there was no outside oversight, discussion. Discussion. If you didnt agree with the fbi if you didnt agree with the fbi there was a problem with you and there was a problem with you and you were discounted. You were discounted. So i think a lot of it, a lot of so i think a lot of it, a lot of its been fixed by now okay but its been fixed by now okay but a lot of it had to do with being a lot of it had to do with being an insular society that doesnt an insular society that doesnt take any inside direction at take any inside direction at all. All. How widespread were the how widespread were the issues and how bad were the issues and how bad were the coverups . Coverups . Well, i only talked about well, i only talked about issues in about three units in issues in about three units in the fbis scientific analysis the fbis scientific analysis section. Section. The coverup is going on the coverup is going on today. Today. The department of justice looked the department of justice looked at the issues that i at the issues that i raised, raised, actually, did an extensive actually, did an extensive investigation. Investigation. Really didnt find anything. Really didnt find anything. So we just didnt so we just didnt stop. Stop. Now, there are people coming out now, there are people coming out of the woodwork who have of the woodwork who have been in been in prison for prison for 25, 30 years and we 25, 30 years and we are finding in the area of are finding in the area of forensic hair analysis there was forensic hair analysis there was a significant failure rate. A significant failure rate. The coverup has gone on and it the coverup has gone on and it will go on. Will go on. And it goes on because of the and it goes on because of the culture within the fbi you culture within the fbi you believe . Believe . No, i think coverup happens no, i think coverup happens because were really not paying because were really not paying enough teens whats going on. Enough teens whats going on. Im telling you now that you in im telling you now that you in the the media are paying Attention Media are paying attention to whats going on in hair to whats going on in hair analysis but in two or three analysis but in two or three years youll quilt paying years youll quilt paying attention. Attention. The attention now someone in the attention now someone in authority says we dont have the authority says we dont have the assets to handle this and assets to handle this and before. Before. There is not an openness that there is not an openness that there needs to be in science and there needs to be in science and so you dont have science. So you dont have science. So we mentioned at the tom so we mentioned at the tom here, you ton here, you wrote here, you ton here, you wrote 237 letters over five years to 237 letters over five years to the Inspector General trying to the Inspector General trying to open these cases up. Open these cases up. How quickly did the how quickly did the inspectorgeneral respond . Inspectorgeneral respond . The inspectorgeneral the inspectorgeneral responded immediately. Responded immediately. I had an ongoing conversation i had an ongoing conversation with people in the with people in the inspectorgenerals office and inspectorgenerals office and they seriously they seriously looked into and looked into and tried to determine if there was tried to determine if there was validatity in my validatity in my concerns. Concerns. Validity to my concerns. Validity to my concerns. The Inspector General the a the Inspector General the a great job. Great job. Im proud of the report they im proud of the report they wrote. Wrote. It didnt go far enough in my it didnt go far enough in my opinion but it took a lot of opinion but it took a lot of courage to put that report out. Courage to put that report out. The fbi as you pointed out the fbi as you pointed out here doesnt exactly like here doesnt exactly like whistle blowers. Whistle blowers. You are highly respected. You are highly respected. Whats life like since you blew whats life like since you blew the whistle in the 1990s . The whistle in the 1990s . I came out, i was a i came out, i was a consultant for a while when i consultant for a while when i was in the fbi lab, i went to was in the fbi lab, i went to law school at night, now i law school at night, now i practice law im a fren practice law im a fren forensic forensic consultant. Consultant. Life goes on. Life goes on. I dont depend on the fbi for my i dont depend on the fbi for my paycheck or my livelihood or paycheck or my livelihood or really an opinion about me. Really an opinion about me. I think i live very i think i live very confidentably. Confidentably. One of the agents you blew one of the agents you blew the whistle on, Michael Malone the whistle on, Michael Malone who may have mishandled 1800 who may have mishandled 1800 cases, what is he doing now . Cases, what is he doing now . He retired from the fbi and he retired from the fbi and was rehired as a consultant for was rehired as a consultant for the fbi. The fbi. I dont know that Michael Malone i dont know that Michael Malone destroyed 1800 cases. Destroyed 1800 cases. I have been able to collect 1800 i have been able to collect 1800 cases or parts of files from cases or parts of files from 1800 cases in an attempt to 1800 cases in an attempt to determine if someone was hurt by determine if someone was hurt by something mike might have done. Something mike might have done. All all right. Right. Fred fred whitehurst, thank you very whitehurst, thank you very much for your time. Much for your time. The latest appears on sunday at the latest appears on sunday at 9 00 on al jazeera 9 00 on al Jazeera America. America. Methods still being methods still being usedden, usedden, and white bread, well explain. And white bread, well explain. And the man and the man tasked, with l glory tasked, with l glory these protestors have decided these protestors have decided that today they will be that today they will be arrested arrested these people have chased a these people have chased a president from power, theyve president from power, theyve torn down a state. Torn down a state. Whats clear is that people whats clear is that people dont just need protection, dont just need protection, they need assistance. They need assistance. Back when newspapers sold a back when newspapers sold a million copies a day and million copies a day and journalism was a mans journalism was a mans world, world, Nellie Nellie bligh, journalistic bligh, journalistic stunts that could guarantee a stunts that could guarantee a spot on the front spot on the front page. Page. 1887 she predefended to be 1887 she predefended to be insane. Insane. Her most famous coupe came three her most famous coupe came three years layered whether nellie years layered whether nellie bested the julius vern bested the julius vern heroes, heroes, and around the world trip that and around the world trip that took just 72 days. Took just 72 days. Now out in paper back to mark now out in paper back to mark the 150th anniversary of her the 150th anniversary of her birth on may 5th. Birth on may 5th. For for more on more on nellie bligh, im nellie bligh, im joined by maureen joined by maureen corrigan. Corrigan. Around the world in 72 days and around the world in 72 days and other writings. Other writings. So maureen, there cant be many so maureen, there cant be many journalists who were famous journalists who were famous enough had their own time to enough had their own time to inspire a board game based on inspire a board game based on their exploits based on an their exploits based on an anthology 150 years after they anthology 150 years after they were born. Were born. How is it that nellie how is it that nellie bligh is bligh is still talked about . Still talked about . She captures our imagination. She captures our imagination. She particularly captures the she particularly captures the imagination of young girls. Imagination of young girls. Every year i get every year i get letters, letters, emails to my office send by emails to my office send by young girls who are doing young girls who are doing Research Projects on nellie Research Projects on nellie bligh. Bligh. And they write to me because i and they write to me because i was on a documentary once was on a documentary once talking about her. Talking about her. They want to know how she got to they want to know how she got to where she was. Where she was. They love the idea that she was they love the idea that she was a writer, a journalist who a writer, a journalist who actually like hemingway went out actually like hemingway went out and went on the road and had and went on the road and had adventures. Adventures. As you know she went around the as you know she went around the world in 72 days. World in 72 days. On that famous journey she just on that famous journey she just carried a small carpetbag in carried a small carpetbag in which she fit a jar of cold which she fit a jar of cold cream and a change of underwear. Cream and a change of underwear. What a woman what a woman well, you know you had that well, you know you had that same curiosity about her as do same curiosity about her as do these young women who are coming these young women who are coming to you asking for your advice. To you asking for your advice. When did you First Encounter when did you First Encounter nellie bligh and why did you nellie bligh and why did you want to write this forward . Want to write this forward . Well, i First Encountered well, i First Encountered her, the way especially young her, the way especially young girls encounter her still. Girls encounter her still. An an illustrated biography of illustrated biography of nellie blie was in my grammar nellie blie was in my grammar schooled, i read i. T. And i was schooled, i read i. T. And i was captivated. Captivated. Im talking about the im talking about the 1960s. 1960s. There are not a whole lot of there are not a whole lot of role models of young women in role models of young women in fiction or fiction or nonfiction. Nonfiction. And wanted to write the forward and wanted to write the forward as a testament oher and she is as a testament oher and she is still relevant. Still relevant. I say in the forward that she i say in the forward that she could really teach us a thing or could really teach us a thing or two about leaning in to two about leaning in to invoke invoke Cheryl Cheryl sanbergs book. Sanbergs book. She new how to act first and she new how to act first and apologize later. Apologize later. I hate the idea that women i hate the idea that women are always apologizing. Are always apologizing. Sorry for had sorry for nap they sorry for had sorry for nap they are fearful of the consequences are fearful of the consequences instead of acting boldly and instead of acting boldly and accepting what the consequence accepting what the consequence will be. Will be. I i teach at jornlgt. Teach at jornlgt. Eorgetown. Eorgetown. I hear im sorry this im sorry i hear im sorry this im sorry that. That. Why are you sorry . Why are you sorry . She left pittsburgh because she she left pittsburgh because she was fed up with the culture was fed up with the culture there that had her covering there that had her covering garden parties and womens news. Garden parties and womens news. She left an note to her editor she left an note to her editor that said, off to new york, look that said, off to new york, look out for me, bligh. Out for me, bligh. She did not ask for she did not ask for permission. Permission. Her real name Elisabeth Jane her real name Elisabeth Jane cochran, her pen name nellie cochran, her pen name nellie bligh. Bligh. Even without the pen name, her even without the pen name, her strong sense strong sense of of reassurance, and reassurance, and its particularly at that time, its particularly at that time, maureen, where do you think that maureen, where do you think that independence came from . Independence came from . Thats the mystery right . Thats the mystery right . I think we can get psychological i think we can get psychological and look at her and look at her childhood. Childhood. Her mother had ten children. Her mother had ten children. And be after her father died, as and be after her father died, as a young man, a young man, Nellie Blighs Nellie Blighs mother remarried. Mother remarried. And the husband she married was and the husband she married was a drunkard and an abuser. A drunkard and an abuser. So her mother divorced him which so her mother divorced him which was highly unusual at the time. Was highly unusual at the time. And nellie as a young girl of 14 and nellie as a young girl of 14 testified at the divorce trial. Testified at the divorce trial. I think she learned from that i think she learned from that experience that you know men experience that you know men were not to be depended on as a were not to be depended on as a source of income and as source of income and as caretakers that you really had caretakers that you really had to take care of yourself. To take care of yourself. So maureen, nellie put so maureen, nellie put herself in her stories which was herself in her stories which was really considered a break really considered a break through in the 60s when that through in the 60s when that journalism. Journalism. It is also called stunt it is also called stunt journalism. Journalism. But the madhouse but the madhouse expose, was you expose, was you wrote about her as a reformer wrote about her as a reformer and a performer. And a performer. Yes, yes. Yes, yes. What nellie did was, she what nellie did was, she pretended to be insane. Pretended to be insane. So that she so that she would get herself would get herself committed to blackwells island committed to blackwells island which is known as which is known as Roosevelt Roosevelt island, east river off of island, east river off of manhattan. Manhattan. Of. Of. And it housed an and it housed an insane asylum a insane asylum a hospital, a prison. Hospital, a prison. It was not a good place. It was not a good place. Nellie wanted to investigate the nellie wanted to investigate the conditions there and she got conditions there and she got herselves incarcerated for ten herselves incarcerated for ten days. Days. What she found out was many of what she found out was many of the women were immigrant women the women were immigrant women who couldnt make themselves who couldnt make themselves understood. Understood. They were imprisoned at they were imprisoned at blackwells island just because blackwells island just because they couldnt make themselves they couldnt make themselves understood. Understood. She found a lot of appalling she found a lot of appalling abuses of power there. Abuses of power there. Doctors who seemed to be doctors who seemed to be sexually soliciting nurses, sexually soliciting nurses, patients who were mall flourish patients who were mall flourish malnourished, malnourished, her editor got her out in ten her editor got her out in ten days so she could write the days so she could write the expose. Expose. But nellie bligh was a pioneer but nellie bligh was a pioneer of of this investigative this investigative journalism. Journalism. Mawsheemaureen corrigan thanu mawsheemaureen corrigan thanu very much. Very much. Thank you lisa. Thank you lisa. Why did they get rid of why did they get rid of arguably the best player in arguably the best player in history, just before the world history, just before the world cup . Cup . Ill ill ask ask the coach when i speak the coach when i speak al Jazeera America presents al Jazeera America presents the system with Joe Burlinger the system with Joe Burlinger the dna testing shows that the dna testing shows that these are not his hairs these are not his hairs unreliable forensics unreliable forensics the problem the bureaus got the problem the bureaus got is they fail, its a is they fail, its a big, big deal. Big, big deal. Convicted of unspeakable convicted of unspeakable crimes crimes did flawed lab work take away did flawed lab work take away their freedom . Their freedom . I was 18 when i went in. I was 18 when i went in. When i came out i was 50. When i came out i was 50. You dont get it back. You dont get it back. Shocking truths revealed shocking truths revealed the system the system with Joe Burlinger with Joe Burlinger only on al Jazeera America only on al Jazeera America todays data dive todays data dive cashz. Cashz. I i carbs. Carbs. Those who eatd white and whole those who eatd white and whole grain were not at an increased grain were not at an increased risk of weight gain. Risk of weight gain. Those who only ate white bread those who only ate white bread were 40 were 40 more likely, white more likely, white bread bread loses fiber loses fiber contents, and contents, and white flour quickly becomes white flour quickly becomes sugar in your sugar in your body. Body. 2. 1 billion are overweight, 2. 1 billion are overweight, that number is two and a half that number is two and a half times what it was in 1990. Times what it was in 1990. In the same period, if number of in the same period, if number of overweight or obese men shot up, overweight or obese men shot up, and women surpassed the guys at and women surpassed the guys at 38 . 38 . Those percentage jumps would be those percentage jumps would be higher but the world wide higher but the world wide population numbers have also population numbers have also grown. Grown. Being Research Says being being Research Says being overweight or obese, heart overweight or obese, Heart Disease strokes and cancer are disease strokes and cancer are three of the five leading causes three of the five leading causes of preventible death in the u. S. Of preventible death in the u. S. All partially caused by poor all partially caused by poor diet or obesity and children are diet or obesity and children are at especially high risk. At especially high risk. The special organization for the special organization for cooperation and developmenting cooperation and developmenting says the u. S. Comes in fifth for says the u. S. Comes in fifth for the highest rates of children the highest rates of children who are overweight or obese. Who are overweight or obese. Cutting back on white bread is cutting back on white bread is probably a good place to start. Probably a good place to start. Coming up the u. S. Heads to the coming up the u. S. Heads to the world cup soon but not leaving world cup soon but not leaving home without controversial. Home without controversial. Ill ask the teams coach ill ask the teams coach whether he let a personal whether he let a personal problem with the problem with the every saturday every saturday join us for exclusive, join us for exclusive, revealing, and surprising talks revealing, and surprising talks with the most interesting with the most interesting people of our time. People of our time. Rosie perez rosie perez i had to fight back, or else i had to fight back, or else my ass was gonna get kicked. My ass was gonna get kicked. A tough childhood. A tough childhood. There was a crying, there was a crying, there was a lot of laughter. There was a lot of laughter. Finding her voice finding her voice i was not a ham, i was not a ham, i was ham cheese. I was ham cheese. And turning it around. And turning it around. You dont have to let your you dont have to let your circumstance dictate who you are circumstance dictate who you are as a person as a person talk to al jazeera talk to al jazeera only on al Jazeera America only on al Jazeera America real reporting that brings you real reporting that brings you the world. The world. Giving you a real global giving you a real global perspective like no other can. Perspective like no other can. Real reporting from around the real reporting from around the world. World. This is what we do. This is what we do. Al Jazeera America. Al Jazeera America. Ws. Real news. Ws. This. This. This. This. This, is what we do. This, is what we do. Al Jazeera America. Al Jazeera America. This. This, is what we do. This, is what we do. Al Jazeera America. Al Jazeera America. Were less than two weeksawae were less than two weeksawae 2014 world cup and for the first 2014 world cup and for the first time in more than a decade, time in more than a decade, Landon Donovan will not be Landon Donovan will not be playing for team u. S. A, playing for team u. S. A, despite despite being the highest being the highest scorer. Scorer. Earlier today i had the chance earlier today i had the chance to sit to sit down with down with gergen klin gergen klin klinsman. Klinsman. A big part of your a big part of your responsibility, is promoting the responsibility, is promoting the sport. Sport. How much of a challenge has that how much of a challenge has that been . Been . No, its not a challenge at no, its not a challenge at all because you just seem the all because you just seem the game growing automatically. Game growing automatically. On the youth level, millions of on the youth level, millions of soccer. Soccer. You have a generation of parents you have a generation of parents too. Too. It is easier for them to explain it is easier for them to explain the game rather than a the game rather than a generation that never played the generation that never played the game before. Game before. On a school and College Level on a school and College Level its very popular. Its very popular. Ton biggest part of it onto ton biggest part of it onto big on the biggest part of the big on the biggest part of the it, there is a league here that it, there is a league here that gets a lot of attention. Gets a lot of attention. At the end of the day, the real at the end of the day, the Real Driving Force in soccer is the driving force in soccer is the national team. National team. On the womens side which is on the womens side which is very, very successful since very, very successful since decades and obviously on the decades and obviously on the mens side when it goes towards mens side when it goes towards a world a world cup. Cup. That team tbks locomotive of the that team tbks locomotive of the spord and has to do well and spord and has to do well and thats what were going otry do thats what were going otry do this summer. This summer. One of the leading news was one of the leading news was the omission of Landon Donovan the omission of Landon Donovan from the 23 man squad. From the 23 man squad. Here in the u. S. He is arguably here in the u. S. He is arguably one of the best players if not one of the best players if not the best player in american the best player in american history. History. Does it run contrary to the idea does it run contrary to the idea of trying to grow the sport in of trying to grow the sport in america when youre america when youre omittings omittings no. No. First of all he remains a top first of all he remains a top top of player and keeps playing top of player and keeps playing hopefully on the highest level, hopefully on the highest level, for many years to go and is back for many years to go and is back on our team after the world cup. On our team after the world cup. God forbid if somebody gets god forbid if somebody gets injured, he might come into the injured, he might come into the picture. Picture. In sports its an automatic, in sports its an automatic, its down to performance and i its down to performance and i choose the players based on choose the players based on performance and based on how i performance and based on how i want to put that parcel together want to put that parcel together going obrazil. Going obrazil. In that particular case now in that particular case now there are just others ahead of there are just others ahead of him you know . Him you know . So its a bitter pill for him to so its a bitter pill for him to swallow and its obviously a swallow and its obviously a huge decision media wise and huge decision media wise and also fan wise. Also fan wise. Because of what hes done and is because of what hes done and is still doing for the game but it still doing for the game but it is purld based position on facts is purld based position on facts of performance and where i see of performance and where i see him in this game and i see other him in this game and i see other ones just ahead of the curve. Ones just ahead of the curve. So there comes so there comes always a point always a point where somebody is shooting and where somebody is shooting and taking your spot and this is taking your spot and this is known in professional sports or known in professional sports or in sports in generally did it in sports in generally did it create some waves absolutely create some waves absolutely because of his big name and what because of his big name and what he deserves. He deserves. To our the last 15 years what to our the last 15 years what hes done for soccer in this hes done for soccer in this country. Country. If its not him then the next if its not him then the next one will do as much as he can as one will do as much as he can as well for game in the country. Well for game in the country. That interview will air in that interview will air in full saturday, june 7th on al full saturday, june 7th on al Jazeera Americas the stream. Jazeera americas the stream. Lets bring in dave zyron, lets bring in dave zyron, author of brazils dance with author of brazils dance with the the devil the olympics and fight devil the olympics and fight for democracy. For democracy. Lets start with Landon Donovan, lets start with Landon Donovan, during our conversation i during our conversation i brought up germany and the brought up germany and the qualifying, and he said the qualifying, and he said the performance. Performance. Do you buy it . Do you buy it . I dont i dont buy it because buy it because Gergen Gergen klinsman is siedged up through klinsman is siedged up through 2018 world 2018 world cup. Cup. That gives him the security that that gives him the security that he could make an unpopular he could make an unpopular decision like this and he has decision like this and he has long term, he knows the united long term, he knows the United States is not going ocompete for states is not going ocompete for the world cup, not even the world cup, not even competition for the semi finals competition for the semi finals but by 2018 he sees landon don but by 2018 he sees landon don fan at age 32 being a blocked to fan at age 32 being a blocked to the teams the teams development. Development. I feel i feel otherwise, statement at otherwise, statement at the same time the same time klinsmans klinsmans decision is understandable and decision is understandable and in a way its also rational. In a way its also rational. I mentioned an espn sports i mentioned an espn sports poll that finds major league poll that finds Major League Soccer marches Major League Soccer marches Major League Baseball now. Baseball now. Is this just a bump for world is this just a bump for world cup fever . Cup fever . Theres always that bump for theres always that bump for world cup fever. World cup fever. Theres an old expression, theres an old expression, soccer in present and in the soccer in present and in the future will always be the sport future will always be the sport of the future in the united of the future in the United States. States. You can see that here certainly you can see that here certainly that you always get that bump that you always get that bump around the world cup. Around the world cup. At the same time, there are two at the same time, there are two big differences that are taking big differences that are taking place. Place. First is that soccer is now first is that soccer is now unequivocally by any measure the unequivocally by any measure the most popular youth sport in the most popular youth sport in the United States in terms ever United States in terms ever actual participation. Actual participation. And thats unquestioned. And thats unquestioned. The second thing that the second thing that is of is of course very interesting is the course very interesting is the United States is becoming very United States is becoming very multicultural. Multicultural. As i can tell you as someone who as i can tell you as someone who has two kids under the age of 10 has two kids under the age of 10 when i pick my kids up from when i pick my kids up from school im as likely seeing the school im as likely seeing the kids wearing their favorite kids wearing their favorite soccer jerseys as i am seeing soccer jerseys as i am seeing them wearing the washington them wearing the Washington Nationals team. Nationals team. I see on an organic level will i see on an organic level will there be a pipeline that exists there be a pipeline that exists from these from these young young multicultural multicultural players, we live in a country of players, we live in a country of 300 million people. 300 million people. Dave lets turn to sterling dave lets turn to sterling and the l. A. Clippers. And the l. A. Clippers. Looks like the nba might manage looks like the nba might manage to avoid a pro to avoid a pro protracted deal with protracted deal with l, and shelley sterling just l, and shelley sterling just signed a signed a deal deal with with Microsoft Microsoft president steve president steve ballmer. Ballmer. Many to sell the team. Many to sell the team. The saga might have come to the saga might have come to the end, with regard to donald the end, with regard to Donald Sterling selling the team. Sterling selling the team. The constitution is very clear the constitution is very clear about the fact that you cannot about the fact that you cannot sue other owners if you are an sue other owners if you are an owner of an owner of an nba nba being framp. Being framp. His lawsuit is going to his lawsuit is going to be be nba franchise. Nba franchise. His lawsuit his lawsuit will be thrown out. Will be thrown out. If he if he pursues legal action pursues legal action against his estranged wife against his estranged wife sheal sheal shelley, their legal being shelley, their legal being issues may be in a parallel issues may be in a parallel universe. Universe. Thats just thats just fine. Fine. As long as they dont interfere as long as they dont interfere with with the nba rm o on a daytoday the nba rm o on a daytoday basis. Basis. What im readings is the what im readings is the sterlings sterlings sterlings have a Sterling Family sterlings have a Sterling Family trust. Trust. If one or the other is deemed to if one or the other is deemed to be be mentally mentally incapacitated, the incapacitated, the other has control. Other has control. She has medical evidence that she has medical evidence that says he is says he is incapacitated. Incapacitated. No way, legal drama may take no way, legal drama may take place down the lined. Place down the lined. Which is so interesting, they which is so interesting, they are a couple donald are a couple donald and shelley and shelley Sterling Sterling that have many that have many rm rm beings sued many over the years. Beings sued many over the years. There is some there is some dickensian poetic dickensian poetic justice at the same time. Justice at the same time. At the same time, the nba they at the same time, the nba they are set to have these hearings are set to have these hearings around sterling june 2nd right around sterling june 2nd right before the start of the nba before the start of the nba finals they would love to be finals they would love to be able to avoid able to avoid that. That. Last thought, the last thought, the 2 billion 2 billion price tag, sit worth price tag, sit worth it . It . It is definitely worth it if it is definitely worth it if one has the funds its worth it. One has the funds its worth it. Its not about the nba being a its not about the nba being a more valuable property than nfl more valuable property than nfl or Major League Baseball. Or Major League Baseball. It is the collective bargaining it is the collective bargaining agreement, so owner friendly agreement, so owner friendly future International Revenue future International Revenue particularly on streaming particularly on streaming Internet Services goes straight Internet Services goes straight to the rnls can the players are to the rnls can the players are cut out of it and thats why the cut out of it and thats why the prices of nba many franchises prices of nba many franchises have absolutely skyrocketed. Have absolutely skyrocketed. Dave dave zyron. Zyron. Thank you for joining thank you for joining the show may be over but the the show may be over but the conversation continues on conversation continues on our our website website bein bein families ripped apart. Families ripped apart. Racial profiling racial profiling sometimes they ask sometimes they ask questions. Questions. Sometimes they just sometimes they just handcuff people. Handcuff people. Deporting dreams. 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