This is real money and you are the most important of the show and join in on the conversation on twitter and facebook. President obama met with the counter parts from canada and mexico on wednesday and on the agenda Immigration Reform. 13 of the total population and 11 of those are undocumented and half of those 11 million are thoughted to have come from or through mexico and the debate is broken down into two camps, giving a legal status and others prefer to ship out and agreement is on tightening the borders alodge mexico and the ob sex is detracting from the economics of immigration and much of the Agricultural Industry relies on the mie grant workers and without them the price of the food going up. Highly educates and highly skilled immigrants and foreign workers. 819,000 foreign students studied in the United States, that is 3. 9 of the total student population. But current immigration rules put restrictions on those trying to stay on and work in the country. Many of the firms are apply for hn 1 work visas and critics say that the companies are abusing the visas to hire the low paid skilled works from india incitied of training the American Workers to do the same jobs. Last summer the Senate Passed a bill for impressionism Immigration Reform and that legislation would increase employment by 3 and a half percent and would grow the economy by 5. 4 more than if otherwise would have grown over the same time period. That means more tax revenues for the government and that plus shifting the spend away would help lower budget deficits by 900 billion. It is unclear if that legislation is going to pass. 20 billion a year, that is the payroll taxes lost each year from the unindictmedocumented w. Causing a stir when released the analysis of the bill from raising the federal minimum wage to 10. 10 an hour and a higher wage could lift 900,000 workers above f the poverty and 16 and a half million low wage earners would receive a bump in the pay. But that would put jobs in jeopardy as it is companies arette willing workers go to save ob on costs. The white house says that the cbos estimates dont represented the views of the economist. Now, hasset served as an adviser to the president and now the director of Economic Policy at conservative think tank. I wish that the white house would stop being so dishonest. They point to the study that was discredited that shows that theres no effect and the consensus is about the effect that the cbo says and doing a straight read of the data and people will lose their jobs. Nine hundred now people seeing the wages go up, others are going to lose their job. Telling five hundred thousand people they are out of luck is immoral. The second shot to them this year. What is the morality though of the richness and most pros rows country in the world of having a minimum wage that someone cant be outside of the Poverty Level on . No, no, i think thats a moral stance. You are right, we as citizens should demand that folks dont live in extreme poverty in the u. S. Bn but we have to pony up. We need to provide them with benefits that lift them up out of poverty and pay the check. We need to pay the taxes that pay the money to the people and be straight up about the costs. The minimum wage is a dodge. They are asserting they are doing social justice but on somebody eels dime. The employers that are trying to create the jobs you have to bare the costs. If we wand to provide social justice we should cut them check, not you over you have to pay for the Poverty Reduction and that is what the minimum wage does. Americans were borrowing more money in the final three months of last year and house hold debt, mortgages, loans, rose 1 180 billion cop pair compared a year earlier, that is the first year over a year increase since the recession in 2008 and 9 lower than 2008 and how do you read the increase in the house hold debt, is that dangerous . On balance at this point in the cycle it is a positive. It depends on where it happens. If a month into the crisis that is a five alarm fire. We know there are a lot of people putting off buying the new car, putting off the new addition to the house because of being worried about losing a job or not getting the loan. The banks have not wanted to make the loans because of worried that the people would lose their jobs and we are seeing the banks saying okay, well, the economy is Getting Better and we are going to make the loans and people want to loans to buy the car they havent bought. They are looking at the clunker and upgrading that and borrowing, that is a good sign, that means that people are optimistic and the thing giving the pause a little bit that the data turned sour in the last month or two and maybe it is because of the weather, or maybe it is actually we are headed down again a little bit and we are headed down on top of the wave of debt, that optimism could be misplaced and that is a cause of concern going forwaforward. You are a noted conservative thinker and there are others, the founder tom perkins and shark tank and they have launched a weird attack on poor people and low earners recently, tom saying get the votes along with the salary and what you earn, and america is 99 s is higher than the 99 in the rest of the world and stop complaining about it, the gap between the rich and the poor is motivating to the poor people and looking to the 1 and wanting to be like that. A little weird, dont you think . I think you can have a debate about interesting things, it is a lunch conversation in the Economics Department and i have heard political theorist say so what if the election is for sale. I have heard disputes like in the academic settings but i think it is easy to go over board when having a public discussion of such difficult concepts. One person one vote is a bedrock of society. Obviously poor people are not doing so well and baring the brunt of the recession and we have to help them. The fact of the study that you have talked about on the show, look at the ample consumption of the american living below the poverty line is higher than those living in france. If you want to compare like that, theres a place to have those conversations but in the public arena is not necessarily the right place. Thank you so much for joining us. Next why cash up front could be squashing the American Dream of owning a home. That and more as real money continues. Keep it here. 2014 will be a critical test for the Housing Market or so says realty track. It came out with findings in the latest survey of home affordability. They are saying that the monthly house payments rose 21 in the past three months of 2013 compared to the Previous Year and overall a 10 rise in median home prices and 33 rise in Home Mortgage rates and saying that 42 of the home sales bought with straight cash and that is the highest level since tracking this stuff. And you might be surprised who is doing the buying. In the communities with the signs these like cash is king and the investors are a reason for driving the home prices higher. They are not the new kids on the block. In fact, they have been going into distressed communities for a few years and buying the homes and fixing them up and renting them. Whats new, dramatic up creases. I think that has driven up the prices quicker than expected because this is a new level of demand in the Housing Market that they have not seen before. It is estimateded they have purchased 219,000 homes in the u. S. Since 2011 and phoenix and las vegas were hot and now turning to the southeast, atlantaing , cape coral, knox visit and memphis top the list. It is options like this one where the investors found homes to buy. One in four homes in that city are being sold to investors and to be sure, they are credited with stabilizing the Housing Market. One way to profit from it is bundling the homes into tools, like real estate trusts that traited on the stock exchain change. They are pushing the home prices up to more than the First Home Buyer can afford and we need them to be continue to be part of the market. The Investment Group blackstone is one of the biggest buyers of these homes and purchased 39,000 in the United States and the buyers account for a small fraction of the rental homes and not the prime reason for the price increases and home prices and rents across the country are going up as the real estate marketing and the economy is improving but still remains below peak 2007 levels. They say there is a key thing to keep in mind. This is profit seeking money making efforts and built on the numbers. As long as the prices and the houses are low enough, so they see attraction to buy them and rent them and sell it, theyll do it. Those buyers are slowing or stopping the buying when they are not longer boosting the bottom line. Mary snow, al jazeera. What happens if the investors decided to exit the Housing Market . What effect will that have . Well, we dont know. This is a chart we are watching the homeowner ship rate is declining since peaking in 2004. It is dipped to 65. 4 in 2013 and that is the lowest level since 1995. E smoke to the chief economist at trulia. I asked him why he believes that the homeowner ship rate is misleading. One of the reasons it hasnt risen is because of more renters. A lot of young people lived in their parents homes or roommating and dropped out of the Housing Market and some are now coming back to the Housing Market as renters and the homeowner ship rape is lower than it would be not because they are moving from owning to renting but coming back into the Housing Market but first as renters. Lets talk about what mary snow talked in the story and that is prices of homes or mortgage affordability rising higher, faster than incomes are, do you see that data . Yes, the home prices are rising faster than incomes and Mortgage Rates are a full point over the past year and adding 10 of the cost to buying. Looking longer term, prices are now back to just about the long term normal levels and Mortgage Rates are low by. Did you recall the double, the rates were in the sixs and before that in the 7, 8, 9 and in the 80s in the 10 range. So the Mortgage Rates are still low and that means when you take a longer term view, the affordability of buying a home is better today than it has been for most of the last decades. We are talking nationally, which isnt relevant to anybody looking to buy or sell the home, the differences are huge when you look across the country. You and i are two of the most expensive parts of the country, new york where 25 of the homes are within reach of the middle class and im in san francisco, 14 homes listed for sale are within reach of the middle class in parts of the midwest 80 or more percent are within reach. So affordability is a different story depending on where you are in the country. If you think you missed the opportunity, in some cases it is because there isnt enough inventory, not enough sellers, i live in manhattan and i get solicitations to sell my home, are we seeing a point where the prices are stabilizing because more people are prepared to sell . We are already beginning to see the slow downs in the price increases and because more homes are coming to the market. People are not feeling that on the ground yet, but the inventory is going up. You are going to see that in the springs housing season and fewer of the investors competing with them to buy the homes. That is because the prices are higher. But for people that can still afford to buy they have more to choose from and fewer to compete with than people buying a year ago. There is the chart about the housing affordable. Jed, thank you for being was. Next, whats up with whats app. I bet you wish you came up with a simple app. Next in the world of messaging app. Keep it here. 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Whats up, thats what everybody is asking when facebook announced they are buying the app. Whatsapp is replacing the texting on the phone and sending the media and you just need access to a wireless service. 450 million monthly users and registering a million new users per day and the volume is equal to all the text sent worldwide. Messaging is a big business these days and there are more apps that are cashing in. Facebooks purchase caught the aword abuzz and for a giant looking to gain new users messaging apps are a smart bet and making up half of the top ten most down loaded apps worldwide outside of the games and offering the presence of the aging networks. Whatsapp is found in emerging markets like mexico and south america and asia. We we chat dominating china. Line is big in japan and talk with 133 million users saturates t the core ian market. The users pay a buck a year for the services. Forgamers, playing a game while messages and we chat buy a soda from a vending more or giving money to celebrate the chinese new year. Viber offering free voice calling and blackberrys im is bringing a messaging service and snap chat turned down the offer from facebook allows to send photos and videos that selfdestruct in seconds. And avocado that offers send messages for lovers. What is the next big thing, i asked the Vice President of Global Corporate communications that tracks the appses and counting google and microsoft among the clients. There is a lot going on. We did a report covering 2013 and the mobile apps and we realized that the platforms are really, really, big. So i think that whatsapp was on the radar and a lot of people using it outside of the u. S. And the price tag, you never know, but a lot of really interesting things for the social apps, lime, and a lot of them in asia are mon tiezing well. We are talking about a lot of serious dollars. Candy crush has the app that they have, they make a lot of money, and go into the south korea market they did it for their app to do that. So a lot of the social messaging apps are about gaming and even about mobile comers. I was in beijing for weeks ago now and some of the guys in the Office Actually paid for the mcdonalds breakfast using the app and linked the mobile account with their chat. What is the motivating factor, why is any of this better than not using any of it . Well, i will tell you, it is about communicating with people. We have really, theres really this movement to having a one on one communication and well talk to each other and sifrp approximately and easily without going to a phone and having a long conversation, hey, i want to know what you are doing at 6 30 type of thing and translates to the business fear. I have we chat here, and we use it in the office quite a bit. They have a lot of features and gaming and emoticons and the contacts here. I can have a number of groups, so every time i go the beijing i have a beijing group of the folks that are gathered there and we communicate and i dont blast the messages to 20 different people. You sold the old guy on it. Thank you for letting us know why such a value in these things. My final thoughts, going back to the cloudy days and sliding into the great recession, at the time, the former Federal Reserve chairman didnt catch on to how much troubles that the economy was in and stood by day after day and assuring the American People that the economy was sound. Now we know. Detailed minutes of the fed meetings in 2008 have been released in the early days they had no idea how bad that ta the things were, they worried about the inflation and not jobs. The fed wasnt sure that the decision to let leeman brothers to fail was the right one, it it was a decision that turned a normal recession into a global crisis. In fairness, no one really knew how bad it would get and most americans didnt real care that the bank was failing, to his credit he figured out bad it was and slashed the rates and coordinating the rescue with the central bank counter parts around the world. He went from the bottom of the class to the most improved student and fast, better late than never. That is the show for today and thank you for joining us. Bernanke Al Jazeera America sundays. It was almost a miracle. Revealing interviews. Everybodys worked with a gay person. The latest in science and technology. Im walking, you guys when you look at crickets you dont necessarily think food. Eye opening reports that make a difference. Certain to dominate political discussions. Award winning documentaries. I think a person has the right to know where the hell they come from. Your house is the same size as my closet. The shows that get people talking. Sundays, only on Al Jazeera America. Hello, you are at the listening post. 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