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Says these attacks have a devastating effect on children's lives every time I. Write because. They. Go onto our street. And that's. Why I still see near North Belfast Republican Eddie Copeland as I ask Northern Ireland's attorney general to order a new inquest into the death of his father who was shot dead by a soldier in 1971 the soldier claimed father of 2 John Copeland had opened fire on an army patrol journal writing and they are going area of Belfast but in a report by the Historical Enquiries Team It raised doubts about out of current Karl Coupland his wife and sister should be a new inquest I think it's fair and part of the main floor so much talent you know when they grow up and. So. I don't think I'll have to say it. Kind of I'd love to say that and I'd love soldiers autonomy to be proud to justice because he kept their place. A man who was charged with murder in 2 of his former girlfriends has died suddenly at home as they Ross who was from 2 more was accused of killing Michelle picker stuff in April 2012 a market wise in August 2007 the cause of the 67 year old's death has not been confirmed as the McCallion has the support Northern Ireland manager Michael O'Neill has described the decision to award a penalty against Corey Evans and his sage woman defeat against Switzerland a staggering Ricardo Rodriguez scored from the spot after Evans was deemed to have handled and said there when he was adamant the ball hit Evans on the back Northern Ireland place with a look at the 2nd leg of that World Cup play off and Basel on Sunday the Republic of Ireland head off to Copenhagen this morning ahead of their World Cup playoffs 1st leg against Denmark tomorrow night Martin O'Neill has a fully fit squad to choose from for the game I'm Scotland interim manager Malcolm Makai has praised his sales performance in last night's one little defeat against the Netherlands thanks to a look at the weather sunshine and shares turning cloudy later with a high of 9 degrees Celsius this evening on tonight cloudy overnight with some rain turning persistent across for mana but largely clearing by dawn light winds on a frost free night for all with a low of 5 degrees Celsius and on Saturday it will bring a cloudy but largely dry start to the day there may be some patchy ranter day afternoon but it will remain mostly cloudy with like minds a low of one degree Celsius b.b.c. 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A disgraceful decision that's hard North Korea evidence described a dodgy Pouncey as one of the dog pound that wasn't upheld a against them in last night's World Cup qualifier another team's hopes of progressing to the tournament in Russia next year are hiding by a thread but also lost everything to play for in the 2nd leg on Sunday let's hear how that controversial penalty decision that was given by the referee last night should carry on not. On its block to keep him home once more with raising a family. I can only assume he thinks. That's from the only. Old Reagan into the corner bottom right hand corner the government the only way it's Northern Ireland Switzerland 103030 in the 5555 the former North on the international Warren Feeney with us this morning let's just devastating war on an. Infuriating and how I mean the noxious shock and the statement that yes yes you know you said the words. I just can't get it for such a high profile game don't get me wrong and yes you know obviously are afraid of Arica level but that the station he made any quite kind of seat up all the state and I just awful for me the high can give at the station like that that's cost us. Go say the team didn't play that well either you know close and take nothing away from sports and I thought they were very very good and said before the notes you know I would check and they'll know because you know 'd people says Oscar obvious that it seems but when 99 games in a row not because you know everyone says the hostility or when they're But these are all top players at the top level and it's a say this it'll be interesting that you know Michael Ware sat up and that's why they were set up to spend the game and hopefully get a separate recorder but it's going to be see what a good manager Michael is now because we're going to have the to flip a coin now he's going to have to call us reps or in their own backyard but as I said that's that's old under some the you know so that's going to be a very very difficult for us Georgia shies away that we know just about a big fan want to level I mean you're out there all. Over Yes that's turning out not angers you sure you know when you're on the ground in Austin you didn't realize high top of the segment was can you sing the replay when you get home and I thought maybe worn agreement I thought the referee set the tone for the 1st 5 minutes was a tackle in Dallas so that you know it was going to have a body in from not showing was that I was always under pressure going to thanking you and shout because as you see on top of that I wasn't thinking about the last night you know in you that was something wrong but I mean it's only off tame in the kite tourism and we were out of our usual rhythm last night Civil War So you know I just want says our mega legal can come to the fore here and hopefully can had an undetermined charge will get history but given kind of just mention appen of focal grounds all over the world of the World Cup finals European Cup final. And you're not going last night I purposely had no no more March to the finals were the last word last night. The thugs by the leather the eyes of this world that referee he was on a different planet was in a completely different surety get starring created for that I don't know what when Stephen made or what way the grid was going to be warm but no better maybe a house to get During going to focus for the turn to sections alone a turn for an agreeable referee that way because I'm not a top class referee for games of that importance you know which turn next to important to trick or treat for out mistakes not only one but poor famous character good. Here's our call Murray describe the result in 5 live after the game and finished the talk about history we talked about the occasion we talked about how football can bring about positive change because let's hold on and off the pitch and we talk about heroes yet here we are talking about a referee it's the dark ages. Welcome to your dog cages I absolutely agree that such a man with a better take tonight the football is basically put the ball in the net a good many serial certain Tell me all the possessions and all they competed passes and everything else no no I'm not sorry we play football and I tell you something the Republic of Ireland's Kateri always humble on the level of. Hypoxia in a decision that is and I know you guys as well focused 100 percent on look at what's going on in the face there is not anybody in Wales tonight thanks that's a penalty there is not anybody in England so I think such a penalty there is no anyone in Scotland who finds out a penalty there is not anybody in Switzerland precincts. Was a penalty it was shocking that's the only word you can use Here's a close if the opposing tame don't claim for a I don't think you're in the side of the player you probably shouldn't be given a penalty but it isn't It was an under the since he's a referee it's a difficult job he's obviously referee to various levels all over the world He's an ace he's probably a father and a son and I will speak personally bottom up it's only for a false positive I tell you what the decision is I'll use the word baffling because I think that the professional and. Even think I'm joining us this morning Stephen morning morning a warning Steve in the b.b.c. Football pundit former Scotland international Pat Nevin as well Pat morning t a on Good Morning Pat and Stephen 1st what what just do you make of that decision you've got to you've got a player when you know he can't he can't take his. Alarm off when a shot is fired out of what then a couple of yards magically remove his arm on the shoulder and the column some type of kindling that was an absolutely scandalous decision to even the bottom line is the referee got it wrong and will miss her the even worse is he was right beside the incident he could see it as clear as day and yet he still decided to give a panel that I've been watching Northern Ireland for a long long time watching a lot of games at Windsor Park Never have I felt a sense of injustice was going awry and I've grown into last night it was on the label both Northern Ireland you're right what you said yourself that they didn't play well they weren't out there fast but even so the game was going to finish nil nil with I thought the situation and then for the referee to change the course of history potentially was shocking I would also say as well Stephen people have got to stay here as well because for a massive got magnitude they don't video technology yet for a Mickey Mouse friendly between England and Germany in a video technology is going to be available and not decision would have been changed in a matter of seconds because everyone knew it was the wrong decision the Swiss players knew it was the wrong decision when the referee looked back. Over the next few days as even though he made a terrible mistake it's just terrible for Northern Ireland but what they have to do neither as channel a sense of and just those who are to Switzerland play the game of their lives this isn't over I was charmed to several players last night and they feel that they still have a shot in the World Cup finals they feel if they score the 1st goal they're going to be reckless and all of a sudden all the pressure will be on Switzerland what lane it is to produce a performance of Africa fortunes and they also need the referee to give them a fair whack on the flop and you never know shit and he just never know football at the. In scale of times and I'm not really no it's not that it's going to be a massive massive undertaking for them over and Basel but I just hope they use the injustice of last night to their advantage purchase something really really special and then they're going to have to it's going to have to be a miraculous recovery Pod and Heaven for that island today that said let's hope that they don't. Yeah to be honest but a 2nd to be fair the likelihood is that that will cost your chances of getting to the World Cup when your 1st calls are said to the fans or this world almost to the World Cup because of an article no. Mention called Marine called my talk in a coma and I spent about 8 years doing a shore over New Year k. . And we argued constantly over this video technology and I kept us in get I may get and as an absolute nightmare we are in the dark ages they say here call the same dark ages again when it finally has home if you will you to member Joe Jordan 1970 on your main you don't get. To the eurozone woke up it was actually there because Jordan hunt the ball going to the mansion Teddy only if you know when you feel the same way and school and we've got yourself. A last minute one hour he cautioned I've got against deathly you're going to member this for years so you guys guess is decades worth and it's all because of the United all fee for. Tuesday the technology Galva the peace guys were. Talking to join and so far as we're not yet know you know you're not I don't know that there's a chance here yes I said but the likelihood the likelihood you mean. Against you know if you're an illegal alien on and find is create a team that played you last night did that play very well on didn't know then play to the best anyway most dangerous thing from free kicks and corners you know I'm beginning Bona both and that's fine there's nothing wrong with it's all you know but at least you know over not re Hansei though it's so dangerous now home there are really really tough act to crack you know only saying I'm no single no chance I'm saying don't forget your anger but don't forget it Gail hold the people in my family who would appeal and change the snow so it doesn't I don't know any about football right there is the bottom line and. Is the same referee and this next time I will be there from no better from 1 am almost always a definite isn't always different but I expect a bet that one by the way it would definitely but that's the one that. Showed the way they went there to happen again and by the way you've not even started to hear the conspiracy theory yet oh yeah this weskit the decisions because you know they want the people because obviously the dental national bodies are based in our part of the world which is probably noises and total and I could see from the f.t. And be from the authorities that of late you know a lot for not just food Bush you know if you know football your whole life maybe to get to the finals in your condo to not deliberately conveyed by an adequate Syria in sunny acceptable if you don't find fault that your team all over the world you pay good money and you you want a level of fairness that can be easily delivered and they won't do it said a company doing very well let's say we take it home this morning 3030 in the 555 Michael good morning morning Stephen Harley Go ahead Stephen bought result sorry to hear that Northern Ireland are one foot out of the competition but there's always a Sunday night chart to come back and I that sad Let's get over it it's a game of football you were referring I believe to the phone and rim above George in the Shango when he said he's been a grunge all over the world well you know he said he was it grows all over the world something like myself and he said that the greatest. And the word obviously hasn't been to the standard law school or European Europe. Stephen lesson I think the World Cup fans are going to Don it's Michael you're speaking to speak to Michael after the World Cup final I know that was and that was no harm fest it created a spirit that was passion from the fans that was and that was a huge speakers been plastered all over the place our cameras stuck Baker a phone stuck out among the fans that was pure raw passion from them nor non-fans last night so television Tawfiq to say I'm not just here tonight George what I'm san is saying George what I'm saying is with the greatest respect it teams those people of Windsor Park you are describing as the creator of Miss fear no word actually on this morning when you trying to talk to fans don't know I know I'm not trying to talk about mind aside for goodness sake is this the day to do you see what you knew about football you're a do you find that the football sense you're going to a little bit more than you do what you do a good football to get written up by going to stomp and I what I'm sayin is Northern Ireland of one foot to the World Cup get over it get over it play in the much and Sunday night and as they paid Switzerland on and they qualify I'd be over the moon. They then there is a century santa clause that Northern Ireland originated from the management of affairs right to be a lesson in a colonial center of huge law states that have been bearing your someday you know it or near enough for the complications for the way they want to they're operating clusters from a colonial and pairs us me and yesterday's appointed but they are sharing all the right things or challenge or energy towards something nature that will entail at some warm heart of America goal or their own because I don't know I'm not going get a cold earlier on their back in the Northern Irish Hans because they are not complaining that that's their part in the flare they get a call insert 11 then especially worried so it's all trying to 1st come for me understand George once Michael didn't hear is he talking time as he said and basically Are you saying Michael Adama sphere last night was not comparable what I'm saying and was I totally disagree with George's perception that one's are park with 1513 and it is. Comparable to. Celtic Park on a European night and east and a classical organ or Art let me finish George let me finish please the sun or wind me up when do you want to put your wind and me up no I'm not high when I wake you up no seriously and if my if I've got this great northern likely could beat what's around to one and still be of the computation with the be raped. No the freezer throw away goals they can come on to question here so they have to do stuff this man who's not on the boat so can he think it's Ok to come we're talking about jungles is much about Michael's about science knows much about football as the New Yorkers he feels regardless your alley have a director Gerry Armstrong Jack Agger and all current nor non-ferrous all you see all of them are not from George your problem is that the atmosphere is your personal opinion and your quaking told you that. That's him Santy his claim next morning Grahams all I'm sayin is Good morning Graham I have a rather big part about our European for then go to Celtic in fact and buy a ticket to something hard writing a line or a well yeah Yesterday you took me to tell you something you promised me so before and you don't ask you turn around and sue to see that I think the majority or most I wouldn't believe it for one second here's grave importance dog Good morning Damn Good morning Steve and just have a go another morning to pass a buck those Something else the problem this morning at the gas problem and that referee was a write up on the guy he was a period of couple or less Let's be honest but. He does think it's going to get back to defuse the money for child of a year I think it was a good thing said a $55.00 pounds off and stop whining Stephen bacon I think Graham's talking absolute garbage. To Takrit don't take a point. I'll address your point Graham Norton a 100 Newton out of me at the Euro 2016 finals they finished 2nd in the group just behind Germany this is a fantastic status one of the best sides no amount of run on their home record was brilliant and hopefully they will go on and continue to qualify for tournaments last night the match was decided on a referee in the station and it was her decision and I think everyone is entitled to talk about the referee got it wrong they got it right that much would have finished nil nil last night unknowns not I would fancy their chances of qualifying for the World Cup They still have a chance in my opinion on this play that are honest they play to their best they can still go to the World Cup finals no make no mistake about it that's going to be a huge ask but they're still in the 3 m. Here so don't release boys I know than our own players Steven Davis Jonny Evans guys McCauley. The moment you're Michael Nader then of performs the rewards for this country for the years so I do think it's this disrespectful to call him. That because of feeling they are 30. 5. Obsolete garbage. Bars on their 3rd attempt always has been I mean if you want so much last night then I just want to cut I want to watch the highlights of the this is not always a 3rd there always. Will be that not suck about the be realistic here come on they're never going to win anything significant Oh yeah they'll think around the edges of that they get to the office by all but you know not surprised if they're going to take over well here are the random British champions over England Scotland Wales never wanting significant Wow's not really impresses me I love him to sign their eyes yourself and here you get worked on the ice today and you get one those in the house in the windows like the Bell get poked a menace to visit the voters felt your fault and I were talking about their lives I thought were talking about football on the Macwhich never ever a poster if I read rep it you all right here is the most galling saying. There of how to be a decision the other way around there wouldn't be alert this morning to be all jumbled up going down over through to the finals on what is the older less fun thanks but that classifies them and say let's say you don't land in Stephen one second is the most galling thing he's a professional Monty and you see the angle of it is that the green you're objecting to the angle is that he gassed the gas where the ball didn't see it you have to guess it because you can see from the from the ongoings that to a professional Put a job in the lane by Ghassan. Stephen thank you just one other question and. Did it feel right and look I know in this in this day and age him sports rights. That's what we've got to live with but I just kind of felt last night there was a there was a mock him for Northern Ireland and the game's not on terrestrial t.v. It's not on your t.v. It's not on b.b.c. And I know that said Nonsense that's the world we're in knowledge Stephen but it once was the key is that amounts like that you know everybody whether they had the ability to have satellite television or not in terms of affordability could said times are family much much like even a totally agree with you it would have been brilliant of the much had I been on a.b.c. Or usually the last I thought everyone in the country could have been a ball and fortunately the world that we live in and the repairs the most money the t.v. Rights are not as Sky Sports at this particular moment in time I didn't know the sky sports the joy of them the heavy and very high got them on their coverage last night to agree a Northern Ireland a national survey of the country at heart. But let's not forget the World Cup season that's going to be on terrestrial t.v. Them everyone will say and. I would say this Northern Ireland get the World Cup From here it will be the greatest sporting achievement from anyone from this country to play left back given what happened when I wish the boys well because they would make the problem and batter ours with the fire and the Amish Syria last night as George said was remarkable fair play to the supporters they stuck with our team even whenever they were Michael and we're going to need that again and the players still have hope but the most important thing here the players the locals and this bill can happen even though it's going to be an almighty 30305555 molecule morning relegate pain is they've ever crisp actually George rings and all of them thought. I think at the end at the end he has to agree with me I can swing both ways because I've been the weld I don't know because until you've tried it Ok Ok Well 1st off but I've been to quite a few Republicans are much as all the most feared of the Fonz because you're with your own kind and that's what it is for both sage but since you know I'm a Titan footballer I'm a Titan supporter if you're team player and the spade your pundits talk in there but you know this Northern Ireland didn't turn up last night to static and I as a font if I was known and found will walk to the stadium and had my head done because this was a must of much for Bush northerners fans you know their supporters and I have walked over Ga much is when the team plays but I have walked out of much is that I pass hundreds of times to watch when the team can but if you've got a vote we are fate and I know the county was horrendous and. Mike you know you're being ridiculous and your team doesn't play well as you walk I don't know enough to know better the top behind the Maliki and Ukrainian tell you what I don't know you can't even have a supporter you see color you're making my point for me show you are you're making my point I'm an entrepreneur than I don't find 63 that doctors are going to score a goal can get a when they are not fun stuck with it and I want to only saxophone forget to get to know you know the spec on the last name go to act right during high commodity I say obsolete in your other post i wanted i Phones all the night you're walking the walk I don't you're taking up there no plan well you're in the Premiership I tell you about if I took a bite got. Out into that and walked out Mr Dolan to a many many years ago what does it mean I would love to walk. 9 years they work and I just say this we're ready to fall down a bit your diet is clearly going well he is certainly surrounded by a multiplex the clock of the Christian clumsy and the dead I love it I've got this big Nolan t.v. Diet really is good really well and what we're asking me. This is. I think I think that I think the question that we have is really out this morning I would you encourage people. For example to swing both ways and prepare themselves for the possibility that they'll have to change their allegiance to the Republican . He said. You would. Think. He'll be a swing you're. Right . It's time to give some of our t. Shirts away before you start to cause a problem for the program a limited number of these. Nights they suggest that you will swing both ways if you go along. So here's here's the score if you're just tuning in and you're you're wondering what on earth is going on we're asking you today if you're prepared to swing both ways are you prepared to support both the north. And the Republic of Ireland team in this campaign and the kind that. You want to support why wouldn't. Things. Limited Edition t. Shirts as number. Yes and what you got to do if you want a t. Shirt you got to get on air this morning and tell us why you're swinging you only get a t. Shirt if you get on. The ring and attacks and I just want to teach or just give me a t. Shirt that's what happens with the things. I would pick. And he swings both ways. Good morning John good morning tell me do you swing both ways I support the mother nature I won't I never ever to work although. All Ok. I'm going all the Northern Ireland squad for the regulations. Were appointed by. The. People. Clearly appointed by the Fed and. By the referee. Was clear that spinal. Column I can't. Do it I suspect would you like it would you like a t. Shirt Joe I'm not. Going to get a t. Shirt you have to want to I want both of them I don't. Know why would. You mind would you mind not misquoting my salary please. From your from your b.b.c. Work on them. I don't know what. Are they are you're not tired I. Know I'm Not. But I can tell you I can tell you that the producer who was the best in the kids did. He did he did look. For just 30. 131 he is the number this morning what would be a main example many producers. What about your. Own David Thompson he never he is never ordinary. He doesn't work for the b.b.c. He's there he's a big guy. He's a great guy a very very good in part of my presidency that's given years Shelley. From the b.b.c. . Thank you Steven good morning senior north Belfast Republican Eddie Copeland Northern Ireland's attorney general to order a new inquest into the death of its father John he was shot dead by a soldier in 1971 a man he was charged with murdering 2 of his former girlfriends has died suddenly at home he was $67.00 and from to Moore was accused of killing Michelle Baker Stanford market by the Northern Ireland's budget could see an increase in health spending when it's next week figures also suggest a feared cash reduction in education will not go ahead in film is coming up at 10 o'clock. A memorial to the 12 people killed in the remembered State Ball mine was unveiled on Wed and state to mark a 30th anniversary of the atrocity but as soon as the service was over the memorial was taken away and put into storage it was to be put on the side the times Clinton center planning permission was granted in July high over the Catholic Church trust which owns the land says it has not yet made a decision on the matter and we covered this on the Nolan show yesterday and that was very very. Disturbing radio yesterday when we heard of the Empire at. This decision to take the memorial away basically on a forklift truck had on some of the survivors and their families yesterday for example on this program we heard from Survivor Stephen Galt he's filed or Samuel was killed in the blast save invest hosting and just cop may as the strongest retirement Joses by Per father of them all the paperwork really murders there's rumors going to bite 3 different media outlets this morning that it's actually the wording that's on the memorial there objecting to another media outlet a can suggest that they have heard that it's because there's anger grandpa at the top of that memorial by Father we all were puppies out there he was murdered because he was there a memory of a puppy I just thinks this is absolutely disgusting but we cannot have a single memorial to our parents and our loved ones of a creative artist. Or scum expand. What would you say that some Michael. I would say some Michael's plenty thank you there is the right thing for the families let us put our single solitary memorial on the crying for my father holder and. Dance on the after November thanking a staff and all remembrance of the as a staff of staff will save a mystery traumatized of all of those purple record murders. This is clearly having a big impact in your. Words can't explain how I say this but even all of my. Fourscore spin the culture they don't want to talk about respect integrity and equality or see equality of the most part of a moral respect of those able to work early borders 30 years ago and yet in this country there are trying to there's at least 20 boys as a legally part of hydrogen executive property public property irate cars the c.m. Paypal's clauses. Prepared a terrorism burger of my father of Cold Blood 30 years ago this as its apocryphally at the greatest level it really is. I'm sorry did you see the memorial being made you were there. But you translate didn't raise yourself that you showed up and studio when I say not I just thought Michael a high disrespectful Haydn's don't think of high heartful not as a the memorial taken away as Cephus a piece of rubbish that's hard for Ben Ben day to be tracked by a benar as just discussed and favors really is. Let me just just because we were going to run out of time never let me bring in a few callers this morning Michael and Terry morning Michael 1st of all so I could say to the our Stevan you're a credit to your follower Stephen Ross a child like I I seem to have sat here so I apologise profusely for the way you you know our families have been treated I almost hate I I apologise on behalf of hammer I'm a partisan chap like I have got a pile of bones a lot of on average so upset and I'm so sorry for the way you have been treated to type attached to the people and I was telling the Roman Catholic people the shame and all the people I'm talking about are what they are taught from Morial as I was most probably just even on his place on the other families want but a model of a road to boys understand events calendar that's what should they even want Were it were as I said it sounds like church the church is the I Am Still I agree and so upset I'm sold as a child like I apologies to Stephen as wife and they all are families because these are the Sultan heirs surely yourselves to be people of the all most integrity and I said I am ashamed ashamed Stephen No one I am ashamed today to say that I'm a Catholic the way that people see the petechiae way and a part of the last night turned my stomach else John Paul turned my so I their members well they and I and all I can say to Stephen after his wife and to our families as a practicing Catholic I'm so sorry that it's not just the nice lady appreciate. 030305555 Kenny don't so much as this morning from Innocent Victims United Good morning to Kenny morning good morning in the commentary molecule talking Maliki Good morning to you Good morning Stephen morning Kelly so we can hear we can hear about Maliki the pin and the distress that that this has inflicted on the families of victims on on the survivors and in the heart and even heart even how it was done Maliki a forklift truck comes in pretty much straight away and takes away a memorial is not dignified and anyway it's not remotely dignified and I think the other thing that you can hear in the interviews we just heard is Hi Stephen gall responded when he was shown respect and courtesy of a by a Catholic caller but there are complexities in this issue I mean it is quite clear that there was you know the Catholics Well 1st are the Catholic Church owns the land you know nice Stephen gold said that there's progress involved because there are 20 illegal memorials to the Ira that's you know that's not the responsibility of the Catholic Church they really illegal memorials to the ira are illegal impositions on people who own land that is being you that has been taken by the Ira and usefulness memorials so there's no criminal sarod all that's that's a side issue that's nothing to do with this. Terms of what the Diana diocese of clutter is going to do here the diocese of Clark has not made a decision no I haven't had enough time to make that decision the same as we saw on disappeared over that was his decision to take it away so that there could have been a decision because you think about it Maliki to leave it there while they considered their long term calm but they didn't they felt in a forklift truck to take away a memorial knowing that. That memorial was giving some type of peace and comfort and recognition to victims and their families and survivors you know Stephen Stephen had his father's head blown off and I'm saying not about signs crew does not the signs Why am I you know why am I using language like that that's what happened to his father on the response from the Catholic Church as they bring our fork lift truck in to remove a memorial in front of the survivors Well the ghost an assumed Richardson this is you know is just you know I mean the the insensitivity of it is a great just a very you know the there is there's no there's no excusing that I'm not I'm not seeking to excuse and all I can address here is essentially the legality of it and the fact of it being there probably but I mean certainly I mean you're absolutely right I mean a Catholic church. Many Catholics like the other caller have the most profane sympathy and concern for the well being and of the of the end of skill and on victims most Catholics in Ireland would not give a nonce of credit to the to the people who planted the bomb and who defiled a sacred occasion for the people on are not remembered Sunday you know so so that aside what Mr even brought in all the things that are a wee bit complicating area and I wish he hadn't said them things like there are rumors not only that this is about the wording on the headstone 9 rumors and no traction within journalism rumor and reportage rumors are just rumors. Reno there are there are precedents of memorials having been worded. In a kind of diplomatic language not liking the feelings Republican Senate a but Canal Company in one second Yeah Amala case so I know. You're not defending it I guess you know but but try to get inside the head of anybody and someone had to take that decision so someone within the Catholic Church lifted up the phone and ordered a fork lift truck yeah yeah to go to that site and when they were done were when they were couldn't have done worse when they were ordering it they knew that survivors were taking comfort from what they knew that survivors would be seeing the forklift truck and they ordered to go to the site anyway. Makes that type of decision and what does that say about those people within the Catholic Church 100000 here going on to a basement kids office to find out and of not got an answer I presume if you have to call them and ask them Well we've been on the set Michael Stassi in trust they've given is a number a number of statements but within their statement they say it will be for the trust to give this matter g. Consideration quote while taking into kind it's all been a geisha is arising out of the lease arrangement and the nature of its reconciliation work and the wider community what does that mean nature of its reconciliation work it really can be rendered it can be rather saying that they will be showing you consideration for the feelings of Protestant people or it could be read to say that you know you know it well that's where the way I read it I am Lavalas of the Catholic Church I'm not a practicing Catholic or a member of any congregation my end stink here is to 1st of all try and this kind of conduct Siri and Goshen is and stupidity Roland to leap straight to sectarianism as an explanation that's my point Kenny don't some. Always look. Yesterday I was thinking. And they will because of being affected by it I think the the what of how to hard the. I think for straight since yesterday are as a result of many many years of being sidelined and Let Die we need to take a truck back to the top to take our sight different decisions that have been taken Stephen over the years the positioning of dogs on the Senate House and the actual auditing of the medium's to the sun and those issues were never done with the family's wishes or can send them a memorial garden was also to be positioned at the particular site for the families for reflection about half of them both as a political decision to plant the Clintons central Not site let me let me see because it's a terrible line Candy let me see if we can get some callers in on this morning about this you know 3030 in the 5555 Ned West Belfast morning net net here that's what I'm going to turn the Catholic Church but all its faults 1st of all what happened and then a 2nd was atrocious like so many of our things the Catholic Church for all its faults has been kind of in your interest the tentative part of politics so much show that there was a good Catholics who were part of my office because I thought the Catholic Church wasn't backing up a spadeful number one the scales hold belongs to the right at the water tank concerned what do you mean I know listen if the Catholic Church gives permission though that's who next there was planning permission given. As far as I'm concerned the Catholic Church should not give permission part on their ground line on why I laid out the Koran who's next as it continued a T.V.'s. I think or I think you do you do realize that this memorial you say that you are going to. Let me just go this point and move on let me put this point had run a moral correct Ned Let me put this point here you've just drawn an equivalence which will be deeply offensive to victims and survivors between the continuity Ira the u.v. Half which are legal paramilitary organizations and a memorial to to mark the deaths of innocent people civilians should be marked by all means but after shot on a proper Wal-Mart it should be reloaded and by somebody just things that doesn't March as camera church friends and those in your friends here object. There was planning permission the lie center Well turning traditional Steven isn't to see him as permission from the owner of anonymous party I get this was their location was publicly advertised in accordance with planning per call subsequently ground the planning approval on the 25th of July 27th short of that their commission confirmation that goes a little light on that had Ok. Yeah but I think you're making a point there but the point did you meet were you were choosing the skill pick themselves sexually being political I think is one you should stroll I don't know was not too much political one of the channels you did call. Your Connector and I think. Anything political Ok fine Catherine I'm on the henge morning Catherine I stayed I listened to this yesterday I'm not my favorite 1st of all had grit that may have been his wife both the way I look out of it is those people either died there that day or were taken to hospital and died and they made us take taken the headstone off a grave that that's where Stephen's father and some of those people actually died those day until time at the end of the day and to me that's just like turning up in a grave and find that the headstones been ripped off that. I think he's got great it's great control yesterday and I think he's a champ my wife spoke really really well at the other corner from the other I keep I keep coming back to that look it's not for me to comment on the right or wrong decision that's a matter for public debate. There's another part of the story and the story the other part of the story is Holly it was Tom I was cold at this Collison it was code I think it was crayon you know anybody that's lost anybody or anybody can a graveyard today that has as family story and create the art of even turned up and it was. No loafer or the headstone was taken away our floors were appeased or whatever maybe you'd be absolutely devastated as he's probably his pride and then the skin the morning Brian morning you're a parishioner of some Michael CIA That's right how do you feel about this Brian I'm horrified quite frankly I spent all day yesterday with the. Cross section of the community which I run a business on the turn the conversation yesterday was just on the legal shock. Such a simple loving decision of respect which should have been no more than the blink of an eyelash in terms of paperwork. Quite frankly. To divide the community and it didn't do so never mind the people that were murdered by the injured it was set to break also as a community that close together it's very difficult when you hear the Lexus Pavan they saw yesterday on the porch and they had moved from the spot they want to just go from get mugged. You know the community but we are here in the Catholic Church goes to get representation through this decision that's an obsolete disgrace and I'm almost at the stage traumatized myself by it because we have so hard solid Are they together. Before and after the call but this the message I'd like to send to everybody and from other. I am just shocked like my customers yesterday I'm biased shocked fatal a terrible sense of care for for the victims and their families Brian. Brian the point also heard me make this morning that. Even the sin Michaels have decided to remove the memorial again not for me to comment upon could they could they not how could they not have for means to do it with with with some distance from from the moron tank could they know to arrange to do it in the middle of the night I think they could have had. Some type of. A run one it would look like for basically a mechanical machine. Compassionless they were really compassion respect yes that's what your hip hop and I attended the ceremony and it was it was really really very well done and it was quite emotional the fact I was the only starting a business at that stage on the main you know there's a lot a lot of pressure on people I grew up in a family that we are so long we're so such a community but back to back to your point yes for that I saw it on the news out even I actually was just I was just I was hard to hide when I saw a pickup. Forklift truck removing such a beautiful piece of work apart from the detail with the heart that I so I just remember saying to my wife my God what was the people injured take for effect pay or not they be thinking. You know if you think about it and. If you if you think about a moment you don't get a. That type of machinery comes into comes into building site that type of machinery comes in. To help remove rubble and if we remember what the what the what the bomb site looked like. And the insensitivity of moving machinery into a room memorial where they traumatic images for those survivors would have been centered around the. The fathers and sons and the brothers who would have been in among a lot rubble and the Catholic Church send in machinery on Memorial Day I think I think sorry Mr near misses the last caller Ryan that is of Brian's voice is a voice that we needed to hear at this moment in this discussion and is that a very very important contribution I think you're right Stephen about I mean when you think that the Catholic Church does nothing better than ritual you know that it was nothing better than the way it dresses up its actions and and the way in the tradition that it has of making simple gestures in a in a in a sacramental way or you know when in an originalist equate the that is with the others there that's where the contrast is you know you're absolutely right you know is that you know nobody should be better placed to understand what an iconic image would mean to other people than the Catholic Church themselves since that is the center is what they're called is the other thing I the only thing I'm noticing here Kennedy don't send the thing I'm noticing with in the stamp and said for Michael's ties in trust have a vision to be say. They know that what they did whether they agree or not they know that what they did cause trauma to some of the survivors there's not one word of compassion or sympathy from St Michael's to say look while we stand by our decision we are sorry if it upset anyone there's not one word of Kennie. I'm supposed to even like we have to be very careful with our words and the situation with those we don't want to play in moderation. Wavelets on our own organization I just wear it some distance and we do support victims and spectators affected by by the ball I did contact and the prime up of the Roman Catholic Church Archbishop given Martin and I have offed for his intervention and thence and this matter and taken on board what Maleki has said the issue in all of us is that whatever the rights and wrongs of our off organizational communications to infer to the point is that this memorial was known to be going to be placed for some 6 months on nothing and similarly was able to be done right and all of the top families have had nothing for 30 years they have a beautiful memorial of a dignified memorial on top must be able to be saved and World War where their wishes are I mean we have to remember this we're talking about respect for the dad I'm within grindings across Northern Ireland graveyards there are memorials there are gravestones to people who have actually paying terrorists within our situation and they have been permitted a Christian burial these are and the strength and the sons who were murdered was they were remembering the dead with all or all where often and on behalf of those families is that there would be a memorial to remember them their names should never have been etched onto a war stone a tough which commemorates the 1st and 2nd world war and Kenny Gulson thank you very much and a good morning to you there's a lot of reaction to this today 030385555 next the public inquiry into the flawed green energy scheme and stories basically kicked off on Tuesday the retired appeals court judge the past week called him open the quiet storm and in the coming months we'll hear from many including the former. 1st Minister Arlene Foster the new centers some McBride's has been following the inquiry some good morning to you so what have we heard this week that this is of interest Good morning Stephen we've heard lots of evidence I think much more than some of us expected to hear in this opening statement from Devitt school feel Casey has consul for the inquiry we expected him to go through a lot of the background to this game to set up the chronology a lot of what we already know but actually what he has done that's really opened a lot of the key bits of evidence and there are over a 1000000 pages of documentary evidence which the inquiry has been gathering over the spring and summer months of this year and also by 200 witness statements from key figures from Harding Forster right the way down to very junior civil servants and people outside the public sector as to what their role was and what they did with this scheme yesterday I think we saw the most explosive evidence in this in this entire process really and several pieces of information which are really jaw dropping and I think there is one country which we should and start right at the very outset and that is that this is quite a difficult process for us as journalists to report because it's not a traditional situation where there's a very serious allegation about someone and then we're able to put that to that person and get their response this is something where the judge for Patrick Cochran has has made very clear to witnesses and to the media that he doesn't want people and speaking side the inquiry in response to the evidence or allegations against them so from the perspective of somebody like Arlen Forster Jonathan Bell people who are going to be called they live in this process that almost leaves then at a disadvantage where they have to wait I suppose to get their say nevertheless what we heard yesterday and I think one of the most significant aspects of what was at all in Forster's special advisor when she was the finance minister in 2015 and at the point when the scheme was really running out of control and the a civil service where we're desperately trying to find ways to win a day in and he sent a email to the v.p. . Bad Kohli The Department for enterprise the department which ran this game are the posters both department spied he sent us he was Timothy Kearns and in the e-mail Andrew Crawford Arlene Forster's advisor and basically seemed to be asking what is the problem with this. I'll just quote exactly what he said and he wrote I'm a little confused over what the problem is for the non-domestic scheme the scheme is being funded from any that is money directly from London and another storm a block grant and then went on to say therefore if we go over our 4 percent target all that will happen is that we will get more than our fair share of the u.k. Pocked I would have thought that this to Northern Ireland advantage. In the context of what we already know seems extraordinary but it also is quite revolutionary because it seems to suggest at the highest levels within government that was I thought very late stage a belief that not only was this money coming for record from London and therefore it wouldn't impact on health or education or any of the other issues which is now it will impact on but that they thought that was Ok. If you can say therefore make one.