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In the past like this is b.b.c. 5 Live. By I have just been Charlie Vertigo 18 minutes after this phone and you know I say Go hurry hurry hurry hurry hurry 108-008-5909 extension 693 you don't have to join in on Monday morning parenting funnies are we talking about how when the children should just be chattels as they'd like whether adults should sit back and allow them to go and protest whether on climate change or otherwise as they wish oh whether we need to is always saying you know down in so I know you know you know you're not getting a criminal record over my dead body sometimes you know something like 808-590-9693. In loud to speak to your parents as you like we call them by their 1st names and that kind of I'd like to hear from somebody who was actually and if that made any difference to the relationship and so you call your parents by the 1st name in the studio we've got Jen Edmonson with us Mum of 3 we've got to call it see with us as well mother of an 8 year old and we heard from a caller brought in a moment to go Jen and you were desperate to say something that point and you see how I cut him off from the news I didn't want to do that t.v. Because I'm such a gentleman thank you I appreciate your welcome welcome and they are I threw did greed with Brian but I think that there is a. Blaring at the lines between consequences in response. Stability and I think that when you're a child there are consequences to your actions and when you're an adult you take responsibility whether it's for paying bills or paying taxes or bringing up children or being a helpful member of society or you know volunteering for something that's a different type of responsibility to the kind of responsibility that children have had they can they sed you start them small Have you got is just the school have you done your homework but they that you're asking them to take responsibility but with far more immediate consequences than you usually get as an adult. And mind more minor consequences than you usually get for not doing it right as a natural. And I think there is a bit of a in there between consequence and responsibility see I was thinking to myself you know when I was a child and I used to go and cash you know the child benefit full for children and bring it from the Post Office to you know to my mom. That was just something that I'd done I knew it was the child benefit but I you know I had no association all full of that but I owned any of that where was I think if my daughter you know at the same Asia you know I was meant maybe 10 when in cash the child benefit she would have a level of entitle meant and I say that because I think of the way I've maybe. Maybe I would call it over Sharon I'd just say in that sense there's a level of transparency and I think children generally speaking are encouraged to Oscar more questions do you not think that the immediate response as an adult and her parent would be yes of course you're entitle to it but it's for me to put food on your plate and place on your back and make sure your house is warm it's not for you to go to whatever stationery shop and spend it all buying pens and. Whatever yeah yeah you know right and I would I would say that I think I think she would be right actually to say to you in that situation mommy this says it's child benefit or whatever surety that should be for me and she should be right to say that because in a way it is about her. However she is not the one no matter how passionately she might feel she has the right to spend that money on what she wants it to be she isn't the $1.00 responsible enough to make those decisions you know as a parent it's to help put food on her plate and plays on her back yeah. And that's the difference she's absolutely entitled to say isn't this got some things it hasn't it's got something to do with me but absolutely as the agile as the woman with the experience and the responsibilities and say you are the one that should then say to her. Yes you're right in a way it is but it's not for the purpose that you think it is and this is what and it's far more serious a purpose than whatever book you want to buy or you know. Yeah you know and I think that's the difference between dealing with children dating without because they don't have that foresight and they don't have that experience yeah doesn't you said something earlier on there I need to go back to and you said something about class now I think the reason why I you know that that's you know still in my head is I think that there's an assumption girl it does yeah it does I think there's an assumption right there. Children's behavior is the term and by class and I think that that is. A very incorrect assumption and I think so yeah I do I definitely do because I was raised very very working class I'm probably considered middle class now and I actually you know everyone I was around you know the majority of people I was around were raised middle class and we I think when I came to experience those in our upper middle class we were. Better behaved better mannered. Better understand in we did not pick up things in the aisle because we knew we weren't going to get them because we knew that we didn't have the money for the down Polish whereas I feel that you know those of an upper class felt that they could do that whether and their parents didn't challenge or I don't know that fast that was my gut that was my sticking point and I want in fact the weapon you should share not just want to know before you join would you think it is this is close determinant in the way children behave. Gosh that's a tough one I think not per se but really fire immensely I think it does make a difference and I have to disagree with Clare I think entitlement is not the same as bad behavior. And I think. Boundaries are pushed How do you know I think everybody's probably going to tell me now in some big way but I think you know I think there is a difference but I'm struggling to put that into woods as to why I think that I'm trying to think back on my experience of the people that I have known and the parents I have known and the schools I've been involved with which go right across the board and all those hundreds of children and I think they're not. Middle class children I think have a tendency to expect mole. To be less aggressive when they don't get what they think they should have. And I'm that's the thing and that's why I wanted to go back to this point because I think that it's an unspoken assumption that the child's that needs to be told how day you is as Dawson said the street child the one that you cite case there I think I think most people would say I'm probably middle class and I was the one that spoke to my children and said how day. And you know. So I don't thing is that I don't think I don't think that they are more or less well behaved than any other I think that children of all classes misbehave right I think it's the manner of it that's different we could expand this conversation but I know that this would take us into another show and I want to say have thinking this is it we're going to do this in the next program in this phone in the next parents who phone let's do this if there was you know a 16 year old man from Sat. Deliverin nobody sprigs yet a days out well no not maybe passed out in the Sat and now you've sat London what I'm saying is if there was a road you know it's an icon even say right if there was a different type of young pass and deliver in that same message the back that would have been a poorly in I think it has been I think it's for a different reason I don't think it's because that message is coming from a middle class child I think it's because it's come from a female child right interesting. Because I wish we did so it's about I'm going to hold my 5 you like so the next time on that one lots of questions I would just say this one thing as you asked me the question. Members quality coaches got me translation Yeah yes remember that 111-987-6543 extension 2. Because yes yes you know you know Man they come vintage right and now they're on you know the county times they. Come in is not a language it is only a slang and was originated in a ng learned you know where Yeah well there's a line in there where he says. Be my son we just say good. That is a cultural thing. Being 1st my eyes and remember was Jan said a moment ago was middle class before upper class people feel it inside who is nobody he says say to them before they are 1st and you're telling me that doesn't affect the way children behave no no I didn't say I don't think he would like what I'm saying is I think that there is an assumption that we've working class. Children they all they all the children that need to be told how day you most in middle and upper class and I think that that is a wrong assumption Ok Ok it will come back to a couple questions him as frustrated over this. Year oh gosh I lost my not not not number 3 just trying to throw a lot of opposition down in Singapore says his father 2 teenage daughters then when they tell me about record setting rainfall in Japan over the weekend a record high winds in the Bahamas last month then they should be passing this information on so that we can form the obvious opinion the world is changing. The need for them to speak up is more likely to have a knock on effect that they and their own children adapt to change practices food. All those in favor of say I am I Ok I mean. A lot to say and doesn't amaze us to have. This is from Wendy Wargrave she says what I think is missing from this discussion is the word Jew know what the word is well go do and Retha Franklin. He says See I think it's the way a child speaks to an adult that's the main point of a child puts a point over in a polite respectful manner then that's one thing but if a child is rude and disrespectful in the way they may therefore that's not right children should always show respect to their elders and parents I think the lack of respect is also what's causing trouble in the schools as teachers have their hands tied Ok I enjoyed the program by the way says when he will read thank you Ok I mean Aussie kid that's leave us saw I had the platform let's leave aside the message let's leave aside you know the opportunity to speak truth to power and all of that when a child's turns to adults and says How did you is that disrespectful or not Jen Yes. Yes. You do need to. Say anything you had to say yesterday gritted see I did. Because you know why it pains me to say that because I haven't said how de you to my tools but I have said Don't you dare write and I It pains me to say that because I am I Now I'm not questioning was I being respectful to my child and I definitely think that respect is a. But respect should be 2 way but isn't it like Jane said about responsibility it's a different kind of respect from an adult to a child than the respect from a child to an adult is a different kind of respect yet to be determined I'm still exploring I do want to tell you a computer chip in a cultural way so many coaches respect their elders because they have wisdom and experience and wisdom esteem twist I'm an experience they have lived experience that younger people don't have them from that they draw their conclusions and their wisdom is whether you agree with them or not but a lot of cultures valley that was to men experience thank you for respect the older you get and there's a reason for that and the reason is that when you are very young you don't have that experience you haven't lived those experiences and you cannot possibly. Grasp in the same way the wisdom and consequence and responsibility is some somebody old to has and actually if you are young and you are wise you'll draw on those experiences and also crucially you don't pay rent. Pay rent is discussing. That's why where pay rent yes it is. Newcastle says in the sixty's when I was young children used to have to give any adult they see on a bus if it was full this never happens now days to me this little change of behavior shows the shift that sheet of parents towards their kids he blames on the parents I've seen some adults and you know I every time I get essential I make sure I don't sit on the end say I have seen some adults put their head down when an elderly person disabled person a pregnant woman comes on and pretend like they can't see them and I'm always the one to get up so. I think that adults should be getting up in that sense as well. Yes I would you know I would encourage my daughter who is able bodied to get up but if she has been carrying heavy books in have back and she's just exhausted because she's had a long week I won't force her to stand up now and. Then sit there quietly Ok. I think it depends on the age of the child it's a little let them sit no at the expense of an elderly or disabled person but perhaps at the expense of an able bodied stronger adult. But no disability of visible and that you know and that's the thing yeah that yes that's true however I think that if you have a hidden disability you could perhaps say excuse me would you mind if I sat. You can jump up for everybody all the time you can. Predict what's going to happen all the time and in general I think with a little kid I see little kids who have stood up and they are thrown around like nobody's business they're more likely to get her standing on a bus or a Chihuahua or tram then and maced adults I think teenagers however are Lauren to themselves when it comes to public transport so yogas. To themselves again I was actually Lourdes was. I was so glad those days are not oh oh I will give the number. Number a go go read this article was Oh shit was because of wrapping up a little bit early Listen guys next hour we may as well we can be verb parents phone and we're talking about Claus and the impact of Claus on the upbringing of children yes I don't know what a journey yet are ready already face remote gentlemens them include Lottie many folks has got the latest 5 I've had loads to talk said Mom digital b.b.c. Sounds must be the norm is b.b.c. 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Out a bio and it's go propre now we've stable's David this thing is pop culture has always been a bit of a mainstay in casting but as they have become more mainstream pop culture is now essential to anyone who is in oh it's in making or promoting or court t.v. Series maybe and now they're musician they say anything. Fact that requires some kind of level of engagement that has let's say an abscessed or do even the b.b.c. In fact as a park a series called obsessed with that mirror is this kind of I don't know trend I guess you can call it and it kind of gives t.v. View is an accomplishment to a popular b.b.c. T.v. Series like line of duty or blinders your theories like you have simply blown is all of the big brothers were murdered a poor one among suburbs why do you think that has become a thing for a book goes. Well generally speaking and I meant to this in previous shows is that outcasts at the very very good at making you feel part of a club the very internet when the presenter talks very similar to the radio actually. Talk to the listener singular as opposed to. A lot of t.v. Or movies which kind of generally speaking is you know targeted at mass audiences and often with podcast you feel like a bit of a fly on the wall and privy to conversations that aren't necessarily available to you if you're if you're watching a t.v. Series or even might be you know in terms of the might be more barriers when your when you want to get involved in a in a film or maybe a musician so so these are. Better at engaging audiences on that level so it's fresh and God causes it. Mainly on the whole idea and pop pop culture you know like with any other genre podcast. There's there's loads to choose from as a fan podcasts and fan casts as you can call them are pretty much the most popular ones but you can also get a new. Kind of information around certain types of pop culture you know that pretty much anything you want there's a part cast for it. Of course the predicated. The old you is already buying into whatever the subject is but you've got to offer an audience something more don't you absolutely. Basically if it can't just be what they the audience have seen on the t.v. Or have listened on the album it's got a kind of an extra layer and it's got to be presented in a different way you know a lot of podcasters make mistakes or kind of doing what they've done in another type of medium in part and just translate it starts podcasting it doesn't quite work you're going to understand what gets listeners a much more susceptible to kind of. Understanding that they want something a bit more intimate so a good example of that is obsessed with you know where you feel like you're part of conversation it's not just playing clips and talking about as you maybe would ordinary company of a t.v. Show for example on t.v. It's it's done in a slightly different way and that's what fans appreciate So what we leading with this morning. So the 1st pick is by an artist a lot of your listeners may recognize called Georgia. He's got one called George Ezra and friends that he's a big musician you know he's a massive hits in the charts songs like shotgunned their state of pest exactly even if you don't recognize the title I'm sure they came on in your house or in the pub or whatever you like you know is it and said This is his podcast offering basically and the premise of the show is that George himself into games fellow superstars mainly has to be said in the music industry and they discuss very intimate parts of their lives and as a listener he get a real sense of what drives them both as a musician but also as a as a person. No You know what drives the professionally and more kind of how did they come about writing the songs and how did they deal with being famous I suppose is a good way of doing it and like professional footballers a lot of pop stars on the whole don't usually reveal a lot about themselves in the mainstream media and so this is a really good and rare example to hear quite a lot of gems from need some of your favorite artists. And you know George himself is a self-confessed podcast and this for him started off as a hobby but now is turned into a really not just a marketing tool but it is something that he's kind of now really invested in it might be something deep beyond music which I think is is quite telling of the podcast industry as a whole and a paper clip of George talking to Lily Allen I signed a deal when I was 19 for 25 grand 5 albums. And you know if I had thought that it was going to go where I would've asked for a lot more fucking money. And I was I wouldn't like the fact that I accepted that deal tells you where I saw thought myself going which is where I kind of thought that I'd be somewhere like in the Thames be. Right you know like Larkin love and you say meaty and I kind of thought that's where I would sit and there's still a stratospheric like success that happened almost overnight it was totally unexpected and really overwhelming but you know I have one around me was like This is great everyone loves to you know and everyone was just coining it making so much money and. I never really like got a minutes ago like do I like this. One because everyone was saying this is great and you know that thing I was touched on earlier in the thing of you know I've never really been able to. Articulate what it is that I want. Everyone else around me this is brilliant isn't it oh I can't terrorist it's like yeah yeah yeah yeah if there's a set of rules. For that is that like I was the sign my son when I was 19 and I didn't even look at the figure I just remember people saying do you want to look cool to music and I was like yeah right you know I haven't thought through. Be funny but you bring up trade secrets I was going to kind of mention him as well but there's something that you do amazingly And I think it's kind of something that probably comes and goes in both but storytelling and actually you know coming into a beginning a middle and then I think Jamie t. Came up a similar time and boy does it amazingly as well. Yeah I just think it's hard it is hard for many because you've only really got 3 minutes 20 you know like of course you could do longer if you wanted but that's the reality to get a kind of story squeezed into that is tough and then also you either have to go completely fictional You have to go by cool I'm going to make up these 2 characters and this one character or you have to put yourself into it. Which I think a lot of all to struggle even so commits about put themselves into it or I think some people do me subconsciously and. I wish I hadn't put that much does that make sense that kind of I mean I've I've always like. I always try to write things like for myself that relevant to me the other people might be able to see that it's eyes where they will you know. Empathize with Relate I never really set out so write stories like. Every So just all of my thoughts and phrases and then just expand. Yeah Lily Allen this weekend to George as your own George as your own friends prog caused. To tell me what you what why you chose. Well. It's Lily Allen being very honest not just about life but it's being honest about a professional life to you which is it my experience listening to these type of things even rarer to do you know often. Artists Talk about life and that's kind of fair game when it comes to their professional life which can often be seen as something that might jeopardize their future career but Lily is going to talk about. You know vulnerable state as an artist and I think that was quite That was quite. Yeah that was magic that was magic actually she's always frank Lydia Allen but to look behind the scenes as it were and reflect back on the person she was at the point. When she was before she became a stratospheric superstar but then comes the Monday in bits which of the Georges are a bit. Of for me only because he doesn't have the personality of the yeah there's Fraser and then I'll be frank what would put me off this and I look at the list of artists he's had on the can clearly get the big names to talk on his part because for him Celts and John Tom Jones to edge Sharon who was the 1st. Artist He managed to go on or at least it was featured on the 1st episode is Lily Allen was 11 episodes in was not the one before I don't know all the ones wedged between sets of Joe Johns is Lily Allen fantastic brilliant I can see you can get all these big names but he's not a journalist he's not in the air he's not a broadcaster he's not a presenter I'm sorry George's. For me I mean you could hear. I'm talking as he was talking we. Don't doubt I'm going to get shouted down by George's of his brilliant music wonderful whatever problem his music but you could almost hear him when he was trying to sort of. You know engage would leave the al and then some convoluted explanation but even had to say the end of it does it make sense and he kind of well coming because she'd lost interest by the time he finished it just inches he was engaging with her I mean I'm just looking at that from as you would expect me to do from a presenter's union point of view you need to use if you're going to get all these great names. Either shut up let them speak frankly you know if you haven't got the wherewithal as a presenter or get professional present. To be there as an anchor and you are just the friend of the artist if you see what I mean you know you're everybody's friend that's what I would have done here because then he doesn't need to do the job that I do so much better than he does he sings better than me I'll give him that but I wouldn't say the present. Because brother me sorry I was telling I was talking to someone yesterday actually in a actually speak the way things which kind of 3 me a little bit. But it's I think it's a good point to make that. You know the fact that anyone can really support cast and you haven't necessarily got those Yeah you know. The kind of barriers into. You know for example if you're going to do your job on the b.b.c. You need to be a certain level and have journalistic integrity etc etc And I think he's still very much finding his way but if you're a fan of George you might not necessarily mind that much this is the thing that this is the thing is he's pulled cost for fans of George because if it's for fans of George he can ditch the other bloke you know he can t. Did the biggest stars you can did sales and Johnny could did Lily Allen and just do and just talk himself no be interested for friends of his alone I'm presuming this is for fans of music goes beyond George's and literally I wanted to hear more about Lily Allen's suggest her journey and what she was like at that time as she reflects on the person that she used to be that for me had so many existential dimensions. I would have liked to hear from her rather than whom to be over with but what do I know this movie once office ladies by ill will towards. Yes they were one of the original let's say superstar networks based out of the us there are there are comedy podcast network that. Their parent company was medrol media that got bought by a massive us conglomerate and they're all part of stitcher etc except the been you know completely not by the huge media organizations but they still remain themselves a small comedy podcast network and this offering called office ladies is a dinner did you ever watch them the Us office that year didn't fight is a Yuko of words yeah everyone it was. So well if fans of the Us version of the wreckage of a stay off the show in the u.k. Will probably be interested in this particular series because this podcast features 2 members of that original us cast in the guise of 2 women Jenna Fischer. And Angela Kane it was also Angela in the show and basically they go through the entire series where they talk to the audience about went on behind the scenes of the show so. It's kind of Mehta in a way that it's people in the show talking about the characters talking about the show. And the reason I picked this is because it Deb this week in fact this Wednesday the 16th where you get your podcast from and it's a really good example of how. These media companies t.v. Production companies and pod cast but auction companies are turning to pod cast to give you know fans of. Current cult t.v. Shows just. And around the t.v. Show to feed the popularity so kind of works in cahoots with each other. And this is this is the trade and it gives you good taste of the dynamic Hey everybody hello we are very excited about our new podcast we are it starts on October 16th but we want to give you a little sneak peek each week will break down a new episode of The Office we're starting at the beginning and going in order so you can watch along with us in each episode we will give you what I like to call fast facts you do like to call them that she made it up folks she's very proud I did and I am so you'll get 3 fast facts and then after the fast facts we will go through the episode and we're going to tell you behind the scenes stories Oh John I have one Ok Ok Ok Ok so do you remember Booze Cruise of course All right so here's the deal about booze cruise you guys these were night shoots we never did night shoots that's true we would show up for booze cruise we had to go to a boat in Long Beach we had to get there at like 4 pm and we filmed like 5 in the morning well one of the fun things was that we all got a hotel room so it was like a big slumber party I have been wanting to ask you this question I don't know why I have never asked you this question but did you have to do the puking scene know why I didn't have to do it son you know I know you a lot of you guys did the right yes here's the thing Greg didn't know how to be really funny of a bunch of people Napa so got seasick Yes Yeah so a lot of people in real life got these so in real life people were like turning off the side about I know. How this like subtle like roll back and forth there are people got like they got like really sick and everyone had those bracelets with the links don't really wear don't work you guys saris whoever makes them but they we did have success with them anyway so here we are shooting on night long and Greg comes up to me it's like 1 in the morning Greg Daniels our showrunner creator and he's. Ok here's a way you do some of the the puking stuff keep Flannery's going to do it oh. He was grabbing random He was like yeah you got in between scenes he would take to be camera operator and we would go out on the back of the boat and you had 2 choices you could take a big swig of cold minestrone soup Oh boy our Cold Cream of Mushroom What did you pass out it was so disgusting I took a big swig do you have any guesses I'm guessing you picked a minestrone I was I would have this that's what I picked I picked minestrone and they they said Ok take a huge you know swallow and hold it in your mouth in till we say action and on actions spew it out and I want you to know like the 10 seconds it took them to like get the camera ready holding that cold soup in my mouth I literally started to physically gag like and then I and then action there and then none of it ended up in the episode my nose and we did like 3 takes of fake puking off the side of the bow that's gross and that is a sneak peek of office ladies you're welcome everybody you're welcome I learned something I didn't know well did you guys coming out with us while we watch The Office and you know people's friends. I'm going to yammer better now I'm better than I am better than how this is all over but look that is going to be for. The fans of us off his. Friends at home didn't I mean what do you make of it maybe I'm just being biased. Well I mean yes it does have to be I mean you also have to like that dynamic which probably isn't. Yes is and I'm quite so. I mean you know in terms of a presentation sensibility it's very American so but having said that you know some of the most successful podcasts aren't measured on downloads they're measured in engagement and say if you really like it. Yeah I'm sure you'd like yeah yeah to be a little bit as well because if you don't mind me saying. We didn't find out much about you this off it's all. Couldn't Tell You What kind of a series it is from I suppose if you already engaged and you want to swallow you the ball of the debate whether they actually threw up in the scene or whether it was very well known I mean if your message is I mean I don't think it's on the table that it's a huge show and so this is coming up and that's that's all anyone's So far no you kind of hope that there are there will be more on the plate you know in terms of. It's just want to just want to flag because they are both huge Hollywood stars that's based it was a massive t.v. Series so yeah it's a sign of the times and let's not forget I used to hate you know love it now I'm obsessed with is the one that you mentioned earlier I know said this is a different I'm obsessed it so you want to talk about was the b.b.c. One obviously you know no no bias here but this is this is the one by Netflix obviously hugely popular television slash movie and don't tell me that's better than the b.b.c. One but they've got a load more money so it would be really. Well I mean you know being objective you can make the call but no I was ask you know is a question I should be going up at the end of my sentence like those Americans don't know me that is the. Well you know I do prefer the b.b.c. One but this is hugely popular. Sort of kind of globally this is much more kind of global looking because Netflix obviously is a global streaming platform and therefore pod casts are trying to be reflective of their audience and vice versa so this kind of does exactly what the b.b.c. One does in terms of making something that accompanies. The content on their platform made for fans primarily but instead of the one we just heard with the office ladies this one kind of skips from one t.v. Show from one episode to another one the next episode so. You know unlike the program specific show you kind of have to be you know you might listen to one you might probably skip the next episode it's but it really depends on what show they look at. And this is hosted by a comedian called Bobby finger I'd never heard of it but and. Yeah I mean it sounds like a comedian's name if not it's just an unfortunate Well is it I mean it depends on you know if I'm reference or certainly no one but it's there he invites one guest every single episode that could be a fan could be a critic could just be a close friend and they just talk about what they're watching on Netflix essentially it's kind of like so moving you're looking good. Well I mean you know if we think he's listening and eases that then he owes you some royalties because you know I didn't write that down doesn't know me you couldn't slanders rolled. Again I'm not a lawyer are going to take is that back but yeah this is it is it supposed it's kind of like a slap if I can he's an American is I'm a slumber party for it favorite t.v. Shows and in this clip chosen Bob in his guest car or. To kind of bring it back to the u.k. a Little bit talk about what they called the Great British Bake King show. You know it's a bake off it's called The Great Bush Bacon show over there and it's really fascinating . From my point of view anyway to hear what Americans think about t.v. Those watching the show it makes me want to bake it all every time I watch it I'm like I need to bank but I don't like everyone at all make a cake yeah but I also tell myself like I'm like my I have like a shitty New York of am like it's not calibrated it's not the right temperature I don't have a Kitchen Aid you have a stand mixer I could do I wanted to I don't like you need it you need that to do it because there have been things that I want to try to make that yeah and then you do kind of need the stand mixer because you need to be able to let it go and then do other things and like poor things in while it's mixing Yeah I love to do that I here's the other thing about baking you with cooking I can scale down a recipe baking you kind of have to make the amounts that they tell you and so I'm like What do I do with the cake like I live alone like what am I going to I mean you have to bring it to the you have to bring it to yeah and I don't find myself in a situation often enough you know where goods are requested of me I made at the last time I made a cake was because I had people over Yeah and even then there was half a cake left right and I mean we finished it over the course of like a few days but after the after was done it was like I was kind of glad to be rid of it right because every meal we were just having a slice of cake afterwards I think you need like I remember Raul worked in an office he was like a scientist Yeah but he was like he brought his food there are a lot that's right so I think you need like if I were to send more of a corporate environment and I was bringing in treats all the time like it's like The Office you know they're like always eating cake on the office then I would maybe be I understand that like because that's sort of a joke on like a succumbing and I really do understand the appeal now that I think about it if you like it well that all the baking as a hobby but what do you do with it you take it to work yeah and then your coworkers you know look forward to it and make a letter outlining what you can see was like I wanted to make friends that's what I was you know very good move from India. It was literally like I need to make friends on. I'm quiet and I'm like I don't like talking so much I make and it was worth you're right I want to give them also modernize another thing that I loved about the show was how nice they are to each other you know it's how they help out even though it's a competition doesn't oh it's because no one they're really doing it for the love of Yeah I mean no one's doing it to like get rich or likely to get famous and so there's something more pure about all of that and it's one of those reality shows where everyone's good yes you know where it's like even if you lose you could still get something out of it do you remember Ruby like hot Ruby she looks like a model I feel like she was in college or university with oh there she is yeah I'm just not up and I she didn't stick you know she didn't when she was like a young player strays like 2nd or no runner up but she I think parlay that into something good for her. I'm obsessed with Netflix production. To move on just sort of funny one because we're running out of time there would you mind. If you want to know too obsessed with by me I was as with what I know for exegesis if you want to know if you need to know but Dody if you this is a no no need to know basis let's move on to better known from a.b.c. In Australia yeah we're going to the start of the world now and in this podcast to present is my 1st insane row it's quite close is a no but mind they they chat about the biggest conversations of the week essentially kind of a magazine type show music art life just general stuff and if you're a fan of the Hi-Lo podcast that's the one with Pandora Sykes and Dolly Alston This is produced very much the same vein from the Australian public broadcaster the very 2 prominent journalists in Australia they have their fingers firmly on the pulse when it comes to cope Journal that kind of good stuff and you know it comes down to what they feel is important in the week and they get expected around the latest cultural musing so to speak being you know to arguing with the facts and figures which can often offer listeners to a large extent and it is quite accessible on the main and here's a taste of. What a classic so good and relating to a great read in The New York Times I guess heralding the new memoir there Jonathan Venice j.v. In from. God is so good. It's an interesting piece into that as a whole lot more of j.v. And then when you and I guess it's been sort of touched on a little bit his childhood in the latest series of clear out which we talked about it's becoming a little bit more in with looking we're getting to know a bit more about the fab 5 but this article and this I seen in this memoir is going to share a whole lot more about j.v. Ends past yeah it's. Very open as far as as far as I can tell from what he said in this interview you haven't read the book obviously it's not a it pretty has decided in the eye of Trump and this is a great quote he said. To I want to talk about my status that means of a positive status. And that's what he's brought up in this new book he's really revealed a lot of his in his past and. He said and then I was like the trumpet ministration has done everything man can do to have the stigmatization of the take community thrive around me I do feel the need to talk about this and he has gone into it at length and all power to him because. I feel that the more we express our reality and our truth the less you know the bullies that we mentioned in the previous bit the less that they can attack you if it's happening on yeah and the more people that come out with that stuff in the open you realize you not alone you know a common story and it can help people it can help so many people and it's it's so important to share these stuff but it's hard to share this stuff because inevitably you get attacked and one of the things that this article I think does really well is that you know you think about the the character or you know the peson ality of j.v. In in the series and obviously he's a lot more laid than that but he's kind of the perennial cheerleader and I guess for him it would have been a big leap to talk about some of the doc asides of his posture and even in the interview while he's chatting with this New York Times journalist people are coming up and they just kind of want the selfie and he's just politely sort of saying hey look it's not the right time but just having that sort of expectation the you always the op guy and one of the things that he says in this article is which really stuck with me was I want people to realized you're never too broken to be fixed which is such a beautiful time to I guess what the you know the core sort of idea behind Queer Eye isn't particularly more recently. It's that you know it's a make of a sorry that's not just about us that exposes about something date but he's actually talking about the journey that he's come from and he comes from a very real place and that yeah you can say that it comes through it comes through this crane it's it's beautiful and it's been difficult for him he hasn't had an easy life and over time putting it out and sharing his story and good luck and I hope that you know the attack people for having different you know having honest. That's an old culture that is gradually dying and he won't get attacked him much spangled from a.b.c. In Australia Ok Not bad not bad I realize I'm not fat and that's why I've been so is about all these However there is one that stands out like I said I never used to live my my but now the judge has written friends shines a monk sort of these Not least because Lily Allen gave him a freedom on this or oh yeah I'm sure that he'll appreciate that and you know maybe you know you'll kind of pull into his voice if you do subscribe to you which is your favorite it's a bang on a. Closely followed by George's or actually I think thinking he's getting there is a percentage you know not quite your standard but it will get there eventually. From the stable because recommendation website Ok in the next hour of the program we're going to be obviously bringing you the spoils of the Japanese grown pray but also we're going to be talking about child jockeys in Mongolia it's really fascinating subject who talked to our contributor. Hours about this child jockeys in. Mongolia as young as 5 years old 170 of them one. $170.00 of them died last year from their injuries after falling off their shoes but this is a cultural thing it's a tradition. Tradition of the nomadic people. And obviously there are child protection issues how does the government balance with the ancient gold as what its radio. Good morning this is a fortnight on 5 lot of adults and main story after a weekend of told him Brussels will tell there's still work to be done to reach a price until then sports and Wales held by the World Cup finalists in Cardiff it rains goals I am. This is b.b.c. . Clarkson Boris Johnson and the chief breaks it negotiates Michel Barnier say a lot of work still needs to be done if there's any chance of agreeing a deal Mr Vanier says the u.k. Has now dropped to demand that any deal should include a veto for the Northern Ireland Assembly Jamie Bryson is a loyalist blogger I would be advocating peaceful protest to pass within the law but naturally you know when you get a vast amount of number of people to take to the streets well on such easy out of the part of God knows where I can go and that's why I think everybody needs to work very hard to ensure that we don't be stable a strange noise and I look is no more sensible person would want for I don't see a crackdown on foreign offenders who return to the u.k. And longer jail spells for those guilty of the most serious crimes among the policies being announced in the Queen's speech later the government will also announce plans to scrap the rail franchise system and to set binding targets on air pollution and cutting plastic use has our political correspondent Nick there will be $22.00 in all including mental health support and legislation to pave the way. For breaks it but Boris Johnson doesn't have a Commons majority and wants an election to some see today as a pre-election pitch rather than a programme for the next year in government employees group the c.b.i. Says Labor's plans to renationalise water energy companies on the railways would cost $196000000000.00 pounds he says that's the equivalent of all income tax paid by u.k. Citizens and the gear that Labor has to Smith's The reporter has incoherent scaremongering harridans family so they won't meet the American woman involved in the crash which killed him unless she agrees to return to the u.k. The 19 year old died in a collision in Northampton checked in August and Securus returned to the us but says she's devastated by what happened Rudd Seger is the done family spokesperson that's very much our position she needs to do that and otherwise we don't really see much much point in meeting if they get themselves into a position where they will agree to her coming back and we will happily engage further and discussions and see where it takes us early a 3rd of motorists say they've witnessed physical abuse related to a driving incident in the past year according to an annual survey by the r.a.c. Which shows that half of all drivers have seen some kind of verbal abuse cases Prescott has aggressive behavior comes forth in the list of things that drive is the most worried about on the roads the r.a.c. Says that record volumes of traffic and the press.