Europe, the Czech Republic and slovakia. And they both imposed absolutely late night absolute bands and very stringent measures before the very first death in either country was registered. And they are densely populated. And they are surrounded by, they were right in the middle of the free travel area which countries then closed their owii which countries then closed their own borders. But they took, they are surrounded by populist, large countries. They could have been absolutely inundated. With cases and with that. And it is an example that you can translate to other countries where you act quickly and decisively and sensibly, you can alleviate the incidents and the death rate. U nfortu nately, we incidents and the death rate. Unfortunately, we didnt do that. Lucy, lets go back to the telegraph. A story about professor neil ferguson, just a picture of borisjohnson in the comments call for clarity on virus immunity. In the belief he was clear. So, he thought he was immune but this is a man who is leading or was it an integral part of that emergency committee, so if he didnt know what the immunity was or wasnt, why with the immunity was or wasnt, why with the rest of us . Well, quite an interesting to see after giving this excuse interesting to see after giving this excuse for breaking the lockdown with his lover travelling across london at least twice. In the past month or so to visit him and spend time with him. And giving this excuse time with him. And giving this excuse because he had tested positive, the coronavirus he had completed two weeks and self isolation he believed that he wasnt a danger to infect anyone else. Its come to questions whether he knows any more to privy around immunity in the sage meetings that have taken place and of course a lot of questions about the transparency or lack thereof of some of the advice being discussed at this meeting. I think that this is in issue thats going to play out. Possibly not the wisest excuse to give for why hes on that. At least hes taken responsibility, he has resigned from the government and interesting police saying theyre not going to ta ke police saying theyre not going to take any further action against him. No but this was the man who in his warning to the government that if they were going to presume doing i pursue that herd immunity strategy could lead to hundreds and hundreds of thousands of deaths. Yeah, absolutely. I dont go over what id said before but that was in itself a flawed strategy. It was a sort of diversion, this whole initial approach immunity which nobody else, iio approach immunity which nobody else, no other country contemplated. And yes, he did the right thing in resigning, he did the wrong thing and behaving the way he did. What i find curious is why the story, when these two incidents were apparently took place three to five weeks ago, only emerged yesterday on a particular day where the government was having to face bad news will stop call me a sceptical, ive been around long enough to know that quite often. So, i deliberately . Most two stories are. Leak. Most of all Political Parties and most stories are handed to chosen journalists. And this one appears to bea journalists. And this one appears to be a case in which a good day to try to divert attention away from yet itioie to divert attention away from yet more pork government policy and implementation. Thats on social media. Lucy, is that your view as well . I dont know about that. I certainly think it would not be the case that a journalist would sit on that story if they had it. Or a Media Organisation for some they be raring to get out. Its possible but its an important story. There are other questions that will continue to dominate headlines about the governments performance overall i think its possibly a bit of a paranoia take. The guardian. Test target that keeps bms. A question posed by keir starmer today to prime minister, immediately bested by borisjohnson minister, immediately bested by Boris Johnson saying minister, immediately bested by borisjohnson saying by minister, immediately bested by Boris Johnson saying by the minister, immediately bested by borisjohnson saying by the end of the month club 200 test. It will be interesting to see what the figures are. Because we havent doing a great deal of time before the end of may. What you make of this test target is not i think they should just focus on the targets that they set themselves. And testing means testing for the it doesnt mean delivering testing equipment. There are so many delivering testing equipment. There are so many people and the great tragedies lucy spoke eloquently about, care homes, the terrible tragedies deaths in hospitals, home that are not necessarily reported. As confidence. But most particularly the deaths of nhs doctors, nurses and other workers. Some of which could arguably have been presented with better testing and better ppe at an earlier stage. So yes of couise at an earlier stage. So yes of course its really important and vital indeed, to be increasing testing at every single test is worth it and every single, we havent discussed yet, the whole question of tracking and tracing. Every piece of information and data is valuable to isolating people and the people they have come across with. I simply say focus on the tasks in terms of the actual tasks and less on the presentation of the task. Which leads us back to the telegraph. John mentions ppe. The telegraph. John mentions ppe. The telegraph headline ppe bar Stevens Hospital gowns flown in from turkey are declared useless. Theyjust dont seem to be getting this right, dont seem to be getting this right, do they . Know, that was another presentational communications cockup whenjeremy presentational communications cockup when jeremy announced this presentational communications cockup whenjeremy announced this equipment was coming in from turkey and it seems actually a tenant necessarily all been agreed in the manufacture in turkey, the export licenses hadnt been sorted from the turkish government. Ive been told theyve been told by his civil servant, do not mention it because we dont know when its coming. That went out the window. I think its exactly asjohn said there isjust window. I think its exactly asjohn said there is just a window. I think its exactly asjohn said there isjust a real window. I think its exactly asjohn said there is just a real focus on here presentation and trying to win the spin battle rather than complete the spin battle rather than complete the task and make sure they done properly. Its obviously better to wait and get the property ppe that by rubbish that doesnt protect anyone. In fact thats probably more dangerous, giving people a false sense that they are safeguarded against the virus. Particular the front line nhs or social care workers. Yeah, the ppe fast continues. I think there is a lot of concern because there are places they ppe supplies across the world dont always have the Higher Standards of domestic manufacturing. I think quality issues are likely to persist. Really the uk it needs to ensure that its notjust the distribution and logistics its quite worked out in the uk and problems like that at the domestic manufacture in the uk. So for not having to rely on partner countries. Perhaps i can be forgiven checks and bala nces perhaps i can be forgiven checks and balances havent been applied correctly says the telegraph in the speed to get things through. Perhaps thatis speed to get things through. Perhaps that is why more mistakes are being made. The ft, nhs Contact Tracing app in question as experts assess apple, google model. Surely not a u turn there . Apple, google model. Surely not a uturn there . I dont feel qualified to be able and i doubt many people are, to assess the efficacy of one syste m are, to assess the efficacy of one system from another. That is one of those ones where you really do need it to leave it to the experts. I just wonder why of something is good enough for responsible countries elsewhere whose values are identical or very elsewhere whose values are identical orvery similarto ours, elsewhere whose values are identical or very similar to ours, why we always seem to be looking for that bit of british exceptionalism . In other countries again, the lone star and all of it the is germany, are talking actively to those companies. Im not saying, it should be down to those companies, one always has concerns about privacy and data particularly when it comes to the big Silicon Valley giants. But this isa big Silicon Valley giants. But this is a short or medium term and measure to improve tracking and tracing. And the only criteria should be what works. Lucy, a story in the spectator in the last day or two suggesting that this needs bluetooth to be switched on some smartphones. Switch off that bluetooth if the programmes are being used. Which of course would render it completely useless. Ive spoken to government officials covering the story in recent days, they acknowledge that there is a potential scenario where that can occui potential scenario where that can occur whether problems may not made by broadbent and not android or the app is not open or the screen is locked. It can only be impassive, receiving and cannot reach out and emit its bluetooth to other phones. Lucy, sorry to cut you short. We are running out of time. Lucy and john thank you very much indeed for our first look at the papers. Good evening. Its been a warmer day today and the warm will continue to build for many over the coming few days. But by the time we get to the weekend, change is quick. Here eastern coastal counties tomorrow, it will be a warmer day on friday but by the time we get a saturday afternoon, across the north of scotland in particular, there will be a blast of arctic air moving its way southwards right across the uk by sunday. So it will feel very different, almost like winter has returned. For the rest of this evening and overnight, it stays largely clear. Quite chilly and eastern areas, although not quite so as last night and further west, more cloud. And a few showers to hold our temperature up. If there is mist and fog first thing, it will clear quite quickly and then once again, plenty of dry unsettled weather. However, those showers are coming in these dry and settled weather. I would like to rule out the odd shower anywhere in the afternoon, but more likely across Western Areas up into Northern Ireland and scotland. Not everywhere will catch shower, but the afternoon, given the heat and the strength of the may sunshine, it could turn out to be heavy with the odd rumble of thunder. Temperatures are expected to be higher, i think it eastern coastal counties. Friday, very similar and therell be a lot of dry, bright weather, hazy sunshine, but for scotland. Rather cloudy and damp at times here. There could be the odd sharp shower just about anywhere. See temperatures rising into the low 20s in many parts of england and wales. The odd shower around elsewhere and simply so on saturday, he will build and they can turn heavy and heat will build. We get that cold plunge appearing. In the north must we hold onto that peak in the south. That cold air will push our weather front right the way south and behind it, yes, a real chance of some snow. Even at northern levels lower levels for northern scotland. It will feel much colder. A drop of ten degrees but even colder still when you add on that strong, northerly wind. This is bbc news with the latest headlines for viewers in the uk and around the world. President trump changes his mind and says the Coronavirus Task force will continue its work. I had no idea how popular the task force is until, actually, yesterday. When i started talking about winding it down, i got calls from very respected people, saying, ithink it down, i got calls from very respected people, saying, i think it would be a good idea to keep it doing, its on budget good job of a good idea to keep it going, its done such a good job. The United Kingdom becomes the first country in europe to record more than 30,000 deaths linked to coronavirus. 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