Times, but as i also said theres people out there who are flouting the restrictions and by flooding the restrictions theyre putting other people in danger. Do you agree with that . Yes this incredibly different balancing act to be struck and we have seen people ignoring the rules and weve had cases everywhere i think of the scottish chief medical officer with you in on the telegraph front page coming up ministers taking a trip to visit his parents, there is really difficult lines to try and establish, what one persons quick trip to say hi and drop off medication on the one hand thats one thing, but then you have other examples where people are actively socialising and not respecting socialising and not respecting social distancing rules, its a real challenge and i think we have seen in some of those socially aware politicians is it really been thinking about how they deal with open spaces with green spaces weve had debates about park closures and how you do with the fact that children, families are living in accommodation with no outside space at all do need access to the outdoors to stay well to deal with what is the extended period of time in lockdown, but how do you balance that with people taking advantage and socialising and some of the hardest balancing acts and its hard to be seen as diligent but not heavy handed. Its a to be seen as diligent but not heavy handed. Its a real struggle. Talking of the police being diligent and not heavy handed, the home secretary appearing on the radio today talking about this exact thing and Warning Police debate against being heavy handed. What are police going to think about that . The home secretary giving them a warning and saying pare back a little bit, hold back a little bit. I think it will be very pleased to find that they still have a home secretary, shes been a radio side so long we had forgotten she existed. Have a difficultjob on the ground, in different parts of the country will face different challenges. Some do appear to have gone a little bit too far but one of them was talking about inspecting shopping trolleys and they went back on that thank god. Parts of the country they do face the real problem, in places like cornwall they have an influx of people going down, they dont have the capacity in terms of one hospital there to cope with a large Mental Illnesses caused by this pandemic. There not putting themselves risk for other people at risk and thats where they have to be responsible at the police have a job to do. And the difficulty there is the police are going through what is the police are going through what is an unprecedented time for them right now, theres not a guideline for the police force and how to behave because we never had this happen before. And i think its really difficult to draft these guidances to say this essential rather than emergency, everyone can understand only for emergency youth when you say essential that means Different Things to different people. For we talk about how the police can use their powers, its ha rd police can use their powers, its hard to know where their focus should be at times like to the want to have a, we have a quite vivid example result could be using drones to catch people outcome is that a way of sending a wider message or is it as perceived by others as a sign of being invasive of sharing a different relationship with the state that we are used to in bridget where we tend to have freedom and not actively police to most of the time. Its a very alien situation for the police and for any situation for the police and for any situation for the police and for any situation for the public as well. People generally are not used any kind of interest in going about their day to day business. In terms of what we are seeing with the police its showing itself as being best practice or they have established networks of Community Policing. After a long period of significant cuts to the Police Forces and particularly front line Police Office rs particularly front line Police Officers in the streets can understand why its been increasingly difficult to maintain that Community Policing relationship, and thats one of the reasons proving so relationship, and thats one of the reasons proving so challenging now as they tried to deal with very different attitudes across communities and work out how best to communicate the message after these important social distancing guidelines at the moment. Lets go to the New York Times, the international edition, and no place the virus cant reach, the story basically which underlying the fact that coronavirus is far reaching virus and reached more than two thirds of Rural America have been impacted by covid i9. Thirds of Rural America have been impacted by covid19. Yes and when these things the World Leaders will be looking at is however badly be handled this never handled as badly as donald trump. One of the reasons you got this problem is that the misinformation from the president right from the beginning gay people a very confused picture of the danger of what they should do. He kind of denied coronavirus existed and then he said it was no worse than flu and then he suddenly backtracked as a number of cases rocketed and its quite interesting in this New York Times article but still saying a handful of about six republican governors in the midwest states, north and south dakota, arkansas, iowa for example for us to refusing to oppose any form of lockdown and you have to wonder, what are they being driven by an ideology or did they take their lead from a republican president but denied it or is itjust a foolish rationale which they may come to regret later . This is something we kind of are finding, theres no safe areas. Its invisible and dangerous and its indiscriminate in many cases. What do you think, is the way this pandemic has been controlled or governed in that to blame for the attitude right now . |i governed in that to blame for the attitude right now . I think its very difficult to say that, i think with the nature of American Government whereby states have a very high degree of autonomy over their own affairs but its hard to compare how we would deal with the problem in the uk versus how they would deal with the things in the us, after c is a more devolved system. But its fair to say that theres been wildly different attitudes across different parts of america we seen in new york very sudden quick sweep across the city and very severe impact of the virus that led people to embrace and become compliant were strict protocols. As was laid on the New York Times piece known expected this in illinois, that there was a sense that missing in other areas or countries as well Rural Communities did not think it would affect them in the same way, they thought different lifestyles would protect them in some way, its easier for them in some way, its easier for them to have distance but as we have discovered talked about areas like devon and cornwall you have populations that are rely on health ca re populations that are rely on Health Care Infrastructure that might be as robust. Have you been listening at all to the front briefings of the past few days . Theres a pattern which has emerged rate from the first one ever made where he comes out and makes some wild unsubstantiated comments in many cases and the white house staff immediately have to clear up the mess he has caused. I imagine this is going to keep going. Its a guy who does not to detail, he does broadbrush, bombastic, about the worst kind of equipped president deal with a crisis of this scale and nature can imagine. Its been so good to have you both in the programme, thank you very much indeed for your input. Picking a President Trump esco left the white house to show the scene right now, its being set up, its getting busy we will of course bring you that Live Press Conference from the white house and of course lots of comments last night for President Trump on the amount of ventilators being forwarded an american also criticism of the world health organisation, another press or do not very long from now. Tonight so the third week in a row where people applauded the nhs and ca re where people applauded the nhs and care workers for all they are doing to combat the coronavirus. Its us and how it sounded. Cheering and applause. Thats really lovely. Now its time for a look at the weather with darren bent. Hello there. Most parts of the country will be dry and warm today. Now, yesterday was the warmest day of the year so far in wales. Temperatures were 23. 5 celsius in cardiff, similar temperatures again today and some parts of southern england may get up to 25 celsius. Yesterday in the cloud in newcastle it was only nine celsius, so today will be significantly warmer. It will also be a bit warmer across central southern parts of scotland. Now, gradually over the weekend well see the high temperatures getting squeezed down towards the south east of england. Itll start to turn cooler from the north. Significant change though for all of us on monday, with some cooler northerly winds. These are the temperatures though were starting off with on friday. So pretty mild, even in the south where weve got these clearer skies. And much milder across northern scotland this time but there will be some rain to clear away from the Northern Isles and then well see some sharp showers coming in across scotland, perhaps the far north of england before it brightens up and we get some sunshine, that rain holding off until the evening. Plenty of sunshine across england and wales and the higher temperatures are likely to be in the midlands, wales, towards the south east of england, 2a maybe even 25 celsius. But some of that heat could trigger some thundery downpours late in the day across north wales, it will move into northern england. Weve also got some wetter weather coming into parts of scotland too. And therell still be some showers around on saturday morning across scotland and the north of england. Those should tend to fade away and it may well brighten up again and for much of the country, it should be dry into the afternoon, though there could be a few sharp showers developing in wales and the south west. And that means the higher temperatures are more likely to be in the south east of england, 26 celsius is possible. More significant changes come in on sunday, northern parts of the uk will be cooler and cloudier. Further south, well have some sunshine but theres more likely to be some showers developing across most of england and wales. Those could be heavy and thundery. 22 celsius still possible in the south east but the heat is beginning to ebb away. And thats because we have got a change in the wind direction. Whilst well see the back of their showers eventually, its a cold area of High Pressure thats moving down from the north and its bringing with more northerly winds and some stronger winds overnight and into monday. May blow in more cloud across the eastern side of the uk, plenty of sunshine further west but our highest temperature this time is 14 celsius. For many, those temperatures are below average for the time of year. 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