even weeks sometimes from a storm of this magnitude to even see images of what the storm looked like for those who were able to live through it and ride it out. earlier today, i spoke to jim edds, a storm chaser, who actually had to jump into a swim pool to get out of the wind. he thought the swimming pool was the safest spot he has ever been in. he said of all the storms he covered, he has never seen anything like typhoon haiyan. here is my conversation with jim. jim, you have been through a lot of storms, how did this compare? >> oh, this was at the top. the strongest wind, the incredible storm surge, and just really devastated the entire area. >> did you expect the storm surge, because i know it caught a lot of people in tacloban by surprise. >> well, the last report i heard said 195 miles an hour wind. i knew it was coming. there was a lot of low-lying areas.