and over and over again 62 times, america. yeah. it was so big in this debate we had to knock down the wall just to get it into the studio. anderson. >> tom, thanks. let's dig deeper with our panel, jeffrey lord served as white house political director for ronlds reagan and contributing or american spectator. also ari fleischer. unfair moderators were the toughest on him, the fact he did get more air time than anyone else his name mentioned more than anyone else do you think it's fair for him to complain? >> well, you know, anderson i'll be honest with you here i'm not sure it matters what he thinks. i think it matters what america thinks. and i'll just give you some an anecdote anecdote. i don't have enough data that i feel i need to sort of make a call here but i was on a radio show a conservative radio show in birmingham alabama this

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