you notice the long projectile at the end. then, you're dealing with another dummy round. looks like the real deal. shiny, brand-new. and it has that silver circle that has a big dent in it, which indicates it's used, spent primer. if it had powder in it, it wouldn't go off. there's no ignition source. >> let me ask you something quick before i let you go, bill. thank you for taking time to come on with us. >> no problem. >> what do you think of the suggestion that you shouldn't be using real guns in a make believer endeavor in a motion picture? you have the technology now. and just the safety issues alone, it's time for a change. >> if i thought for a moment, it would make the movie look better to use nonguns or use plastic