the senator said back in february he wasn't sizing up his opponents. >> i'm not going to start handicapping who might be a -- my opponent. >> reporter: mother jones magazine said it was not involved in the recording of the campaign meeting and the audio came from an anonymous source, a source close to the campaign said there's nothing wrong with discussing judd's personal history adding, quote, any campaign would do that. and it should be ♪ed mcconnell is not heard recording to the discussion in the recording. erin? >> all right. thanks, jim. now peter barnett and anna navarro. what happened here, anna? these recordings cross the line? >> they cross the line if they're illegal, erin. certainly it's unethical and could be illegal. if somebody put a hidden device in mitch mcconnell's office and made the recordings, absolutely, it's illegal and if they're found out they're probably going to jail and we have to