>> fouad, do you see -- some say this is the downfall of political islam. this is political islam on its heels. do you agree with that? >> i do. i think it's the set back for the muslim brotherhood, ben wedeman gave us a cautionary note. we should never think that anyone could extubate the roots of the muslim brotherhood in egypt. they run deep. they run to the 1920s. the muslim brotherhood should always be in the game. many of the liberals if you will, begrudge the brotherhood, they ran for elections against the brotherhood and they lost. it sustained a setback in egypt and it even sustained minor setback in turkey, the troubles of erdogan. the story continues. it never ends, because there is no way that you could somehow cut down the roots of the muslim