the conversation as well. let me ask you on william's reporting. mcconney is called to be testify for the grand jury as far as we know. how significant is this development? >> erin, thank you for having me back. i think it is very significant. what we have seen in recent weeks is acceleration of the new york state criminal investigation. we know that investigation revolves around financial issues so to bring in the controller who knows where all the financ financial bodies and one of the closest associates of weisselberg, it shows rapid forward movement in this