relationship. just a bigger piece of context for all of us not living in arizona, the new electoral college act reform legislation, one of the provisions is governors approve and send the slate of electors. so if you have someone in that position, who has already said i have questions, this is how i would behave, that's very important in these super tight presidential races. and arizona does not have a lieutenant governor. after her, it goes to the secretary of state. >> to that point, we asked voters in arizona, do they know what the secretary of state does? just listen to what they had to say. >> because of what happened in the last couple of years, i think we're more aware of the secretary of state than ever before. >> i don't know much about that particular race. >> i know from a very general