and his partner met with the pope. what did he say to you that stuck with you? >> well, the conversation with pope francis was actually a very private one. it was a meeting between friends. we have been friends for the last 50 years. it was a wonderful way of him being very generous with his time to receive me. i wasn't expecting a private audience with him. i thought it would be just part of a general audience. i was extremely pleased to see him in a more private environment in washington, d.c. >> did he speak at all about your partnership there? about your partner?

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