point the horizon for some type of a conclusion, not a conclusion. >> a resolution of some of some sort that might even be an interim solution that much longer to achieve. >> i mean, that's a really messy discussion with a bunch of preconditions as you've described, that would be essential to reach that point. >> generally, i also want to ask you about the strikes on these un schools. israel, again, pointing to its use of precise munitions when it's been criticized for carrying out a strike with dozens of civilian casualties alongside what they claim to be some 30 or so hamas militants. do you think israel is properly weighing its stated goal of targeting hamas? alongside protecting civilian life well, you have to be able to look at the results of what to taken place. >> that's a fulsome conversation. i can tell you that collateral damage

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