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but all of this at least supports the theory and it is just a theory that at some point, this pilot felt like he had no choice and he started trying to very dramatically ascend to try to get out of the trouble of the weather around him and in doing so maybe stalled the aircraft. just a theory right now. this is not a theory we know he was at a lower altitude than he wanted to be in the midst of this storm. >> tom foreman, thank you for that. let's talk about this and the significance of that request with our aviation and safety analyst, david soucie and jeff back with me. we're going to know more when this is found, the flight data recorder. the significance to change altitudes. the fact that that was denied some have said why didn't he focus more on going around the storm since the ceiling was over 50,000 feet? your take. >> right, commercial pilots who want to avoid the danger of a thunderstorm go laterally around it in general. and tend to go above it to try to get an increase in altitude

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