and also that the agency could conduct engineering tests on their own with -- which could include analysis on axillary equipment. let me be very clear about this. >> you heard in his own words, telling the committee that he was aware of this possible scheme in 2014 but the automaker only came clean to the epa last month. that's going to be one of the questions the lawmakers will want to know, white house responsible for the cheating scheme? why was the software installed? and how will the automaker fix the problem? how will that fix affect the performance of vehicle on the road today, ana? we expect lots of questions from lawmakers as they try to drill down on exactly how this happened 1k3 who was responsible. >> that's right. thank you. still to come, you see them all the time in isis propaganda videos, fleets of toyota trucks