and he said i think we've got to figure out a way to get this president some power. and i laughed. and he said no. he said, we really have to -- we can't wait. for him, it was not a political problem. for him, it was a spiritual problem. he had gone through the valley of the shadow of death, and he felt it was inevitable that his days were numbered. and so he didn't have any time to waste. and so when we got back from that meeting, it wasn't a day or so before mrs. boynton came over and said that you've got to come and help us in selma. >> that lady was amelia boynton. now 103, living in tuskegee alabama, in a rare conversation with cnn.com, she remembers too. >> i got to the foot of the bridge. there were men on horses.