>> well, they do, they made it very clear with their criteria. >> they're more occurring -- >> but there are more occurring. there have been -- let me repeat for you, let me repeat for you. >> you can keep on repeating mother jones, piers if you want to rely on mother jones, that is what you can do. >> simply spin these statistics, let me repeat to you the facts. since 1982, there have been 70 mass shootings in america. of those, 30 have happened since 2006. of those, 13 -- in the last 20 months. of those 13, three have been three of the worst -- >> piers, yelling isn't going to make those numbers right? others have looked at this, and they would warn you to be careful. not to use those numbers. >> but piers, let's get back to today's shooting.
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