>> uh-huh. >> so it's not at all clear. what's very clear is nobody really knows what to do right now. >> donald trump could make a difference here? he has come out for kevin mccarthy but not in such a flint-throated way. >> some of these people -- >> let's listen back in. >> mccarthy. van orderen. >> mccarthy. >> mccarthy. vargas. >> hakeem jeffries. >> jeffries. vasquez. >> new mexico for hakeem jeffries. >> jeffries. >> jeffries of new york. >> jeffries. >> velazquez. >> hakeem jeffries. >> jeffries. >> wagner. >> kevin mccarthy. >> mccarthy. wahlberg? >> kevin mccarthy.