like cooking. >> so what's cooking? spaghetti, obviously. what do you call this dish? >> we call it golden spaghetti. this is not traditional. >> with this dish i want to express the flavor of lagoon. >> loved in the ancient world, this is liquid fermented fish with a delicate umami taste. >> you can really smell that. >> i give the sour flavor. in french they call it -- i've heard of that, yes. try to open it. it is boiling. >> it's boiling? fermenting? >> yes. >> she uses leftover unripe grapes from her vineyard that is