new immigrants and perhaps illegal immigrants, undocumented immigrants. whether it's the homeless with whom he met in washington, d.c. the immigrants some of whom travel to the united states without their parents in that school in east harlem and we see prisoners. it is a message of you matter. you matter to me. >> he's done it at every stop of the way. i was so interested when he was speaking to congress he said we must respect human life at all stages development. everybody was waiting for the abortion reference. what he went onto say is we should abolish capital punishment throughout the world. that was his reference point. here he's visiting with prisoners saying every life matter. capital punishment should not exist anywhere. he's showing up to say there's reconciliation and hope for everyone. >> that's not a new position for the church, opposition for capital punishment. it's been around for quite some time. i remember some of the fights in the '80s.