putin's one of the main points of his character's lies, we assume it's a lie and deceit before they do otherwise. >> christiane, let me get your thoughts on the ongoing negotiations. in a new video message, president zelenskyy says these talks are quote only words without anything concrete. given how often they continue to lie, why should ukraine believe anything they put on the table during these talks? >> reporter: well, i mean, that's a very good question. to gary's point, after we all heard this news about what russia was saying after the latest round of talks and the deescalation and et cetera, some people got quite optimistic about it. but just in the less than 24 hours, a completely different message has come out, actually from the kremlin. yesterday, they were expressing optimism. today they are saying, no, we haven't seen progress in these talks.