said that he talked to lawyers and he felt that he had absolutely no ability to reject the election on january 6th, to think he was wrong when he did that? i wasn't in mike pence's shoes and the information that he had at that time. i don't know how he based his decisions. i think he's a nice man. i think that he's failed to. donald trump since that day because he certainly does not recognize that we need someone in the white house who needs him out on the trail advocating for him instead of constantly criticized ding and going back and ripping them apart all right. >> joining me now is cnn anchor and chief political correspondent dana bash. dana, good morning to you. >> morning so much to talk about from your show yesterday, but that really stuck out to me. >> i have to say what kristi noem had to say there in that obviously the vice president plays a critical role in certifying the 2024 election when we get there, this has become something of a litmus test for potential trump vps

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