it is okay to let go. i love you. go see your daddy. go see papa judd. go be with your people. >> and she heard you? >> oh, she heard me. and i just got in the bed with her and held her and talked to her and said, let it all go. be free. all was forgiven long ago. all was forgiven long ago. leave it all here. take nothing with you. just be free. >> extraordinary blessing you were able to do that. >> oh, it was -- i'm so thankful i was there. >> one of the reasons i wanted to talk with ashley for my podcast was that i still struggle with my brother carter's suicide 35 years ago. >> one of the things that -- i'm