sense of helping those guys to get a play, you know, i'll do it. as a player, i did it. i ran into a coach. is it cheating? you know, so, it can go either way. >> is this cheating? gamesmanship. is it different if you're a coach versus a player? >> i'm kind of on the gamesmanship of it. i have inspected very carefully the various tapes and if you look, his foot goes on the sideline. jones is 40 yards away and not even on the sideline yet. >> okay. >> so i mean, was he thinking -- >> you're saying -- >> what's did big deal? he was fined. we shouldn't turn these sports into litigated events. >> right. >> jones said that was gamesmanship and didn't bother him. by the way, if you change a little bit and make it jacoby jones, it's a great detective series. goes inside. gamesmanship in the nfl. >> new programming alert. >> jacoby intelligence. >> the nfl does not agree and