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cleaving him on the hacking. it comes alongside what was made on the television jobs. first the fight. >> tonight president-elect trump escalating his ongoing battle with the u.s. intelligence community, tweeting just before the briefing, the intelligence on russian hacking was delayed until friday. perhaps more time needed to build a case. very strange. intelligence officials are pushing back denying there was ever a delay in the briefing and it was always scheduled for friday. trump always siding with wikileaks founder julian assange, a man wanted for leaking classified information who in an interview denied russia had anything to do with handing over the stolen documents and funding campaign chairman john po defta. >> we said repeatedly that our source is not the russian government and it is not state. >> trump tweeting he said a 14-year-old could have hacked po defta. why was dnc so careless. he said russians did not give him the info! mike pence defended trump's skepticism. >> president-elect has expressed his very sincere and healthy american skepticism about intelligence conclusions. >> officials told cnn's trump's continued attacks are hurting morale of the intelligence community with one official saying it's a sad day when politicians put more stock in vladimir putin and julian assange over american who is risk their lives providing objective nonpartisan analysis. cnn learned trump has been briefed on the attacks, but the report this week will provide a fuller picture. >> we have not seen the report and been briefed. they wait and see what it is that the community is putting forward before they make the judgments. >> joining us now, the president-elect has met with him in the past. is there a difference with his public and private persona? >> there is a disconnect which is leading to some of that confusion among the officials. as we have seen, he has been somewhat combative when it comes to the intelligence community's findings, even mocking the assessment as we saw on twitter. that has been going on for months. behind the scenes privately it's a different story i'm told by officials. donald trump is very polite, professional, deferential and he will ask questions, but not what you might expect based on what you see playing out publicly. there is a difference there and the hope is, anderson, after the briefing on friday between trump and the leaders of the intelligence community that relations will improve. >> appreciate the update. one note on the commitment he made to share the inside knowledge he said he had on the hacking today at the latest. today came and went and new word he intends to take on the intelligence community in ways that go beyond rhetoric. he restructures and pears back intelligence and have the cia as well. thanks so much for being with us. this restructuring the office of the director of national intelligence and the cia, what are you learning? >> sure. the director of national intelligence was established after the terrorist attacks. it is a way to get intelligence agencies like the cia to share more information so there were more surprises. a lot of republicans and the top national security adviser are suspicious of dni and believe it is spun in a way to make democrats feel better about what they are getting. he was at the defense intelligence agency and pushed out in 2014 by the director. now flynn is in the driver's seat and able to push this proposal that would pair back and take a lot of power away from washington and make it more of an analysis and put more power back into the cia's hands. >> you also write about the organization of the cia and less people at the headquarters where their analytical branch is and others on the field. trying to get more people out into the field. >> that's right. there is a lot of bullies in the trump organization that people at these headquarters are mory is ce is -- more susceptible. whether they are out in the field or mideast or elsewhere. the risk there is that decentralized communities, maybe they miss things and it's hard to get the balance right, but the trump folks. >> those are covert positions and director of operations. that's different than the branch back in langley. if they are talking about more people out in the field, they are talking about covert operations and that requires that people back in the united states supporting them and also requires a lot more perhaps contractors in the field protecting them. >> that's right. you are talking about raw intelligence and not as many analysts in washington deciphering what that means. you have to look what happened over the past month. the trump folks are upset at the way this news came out about the assessment that the hacking operation last year by the russians was done in a way to help trump win. they feel like that's political and undermines his winning the white house. it doesn't make it look like he won fair and square. they are resisting deeply. we wonder what the tweets are about and why does he hammer on and promote putin on twitter? this is what it's coming to. once he is inaugurated, this is going to start rolling january 20th. >> i appreciate your reporting. plenty to talk about tonight. the security analysts and former long time russian operations officer steve hall. the former white house political director and a trump supporter. let me start with you. you were an officer in the field. what do you make of the idea of more officers in the field and fewer analysts and others? >> like everything with trump, i agree with him. there are too many people back at langlangley. you have to restore the operations. i know some of the people advising the trump transition team and they are absolutely right and guarantee me there will be a blood bath at the cia and dni. frankly i think this is a side show to citing somebody like assange, a mouth piece of russian intelligence or taking the word of vladimir putin whether he hacked or not. i find this extraordinary that trump would side with the russians in any sense or russian influence. it's the twilight zone. another thing, this is not a war against the cia. most of this information about the hacking is coming out of national security agency and they have gotten into fiber optics and the meta data and the russian code and assange going on about a 14-year-old being able to hack the desk is nonsense. this is very sophisticated code that has been established by both the fbi -- >> there was according to the report in the "new york times" about how this happened. there was a lot of missteps along the way by the dnc. they got the call from the fbi and they were not sure it was the agent calling them. it seemed like a ludicrous cast of characters who didn't understand the impact of this early on. >> they no clue how vulnerable they were. the obama administration should have done something about this early on. we should have seen this before. right away. they are after us. it had nothing to do with who was elected president. we have to start dealing with the facts. besides julian assange or putin and taking their word is like the twilight zone. >> the potential restructuring, do you think it is a side show and a big deal to what bob was saying with julian assange and the presidency and lack of faith in intelligence community. >> i have to agree completely with bob about julian assange. he is a fugitive from justice and he doesn't have to face rape charges in sweden. he got all the members in the intelligence community saying one thing and maybe there is a plan there. with regard to reorganization, let's not forget he embarked on organization about two years ago. the modernization plan did have morale issues in the agency. now you are looking at president-elect coming in and saying we need to go through that process all over again. reorganization, there is a personnel price to pay. i do agree with bob. nobody is going to disagree that more people in the field, more operatives, that's a good thing. there is important analytical stuff that goes on and especially before you set foot in the oval office for your national security team in place. before you can see close up what's going on. it's sort of a strange way to go about it. >> what do you make as a trump supporter of donald trump siding with julian assange as someone he previously said should get a death sentence? >> he is the outsider. he is the executive. some of this is meant to stir his troops to better performance. i honestly don't know. i listened to the assange interviews that sean hannity had with him and he is adamant that ru russians were not involved. i don't know. having been in government whether it's the central intelligence agency or the director of national intelligence or housing and urban development or the justice department, these organizations can get very, very out of date and out of date quickly. very ideological in a sense. when you have a president come in and particularly this one who is an executive's executive, he is going to want and demand from his employees and the federal government that they produce. clearly that's what he is about. you will see this in other areas as well. >> to jeff's point, is this a way to push the intelligence community and people who will be reporting to him to work harder and scrub on the intelligence and rethink assumptions or does it kill morale? >> i think jeff's right. i agree with him 100%. yes. you're right. it needs to be stirred up. that didn't help the director of operations. it was essentially vis rated by brennan and the people that trump is relying on are friends of mine. i don't agree with them politically, but it needs to be reorganized. even if morale is hurt and get it away from politics. if it turns out that the russian hacking thing is based on politics, there should be a criminal investigation of sort. i think the russians did hack, but let his guys get in there and stir it up. make the place efficient. trump is right in 2002 and 2003, the cia let everybody down by putting a lot of trash in it and it's time to correct that. >> steve, in terms of getting more cia officers into the field, that's not something that happens overnight. the training can last for years. just the support when one thing had large scale forces in iraq also in afghanistan. the officers can operate in conjunction with military and get security from them. >> absolutely. this is a significant challenge to anyone trying to manage operations inside the director of operations. you cannot just come up with these people with the area that i am most familiar with in russian operations. just training someone takes a year to two years to get them to the point you want them to. not even including the specialized training required for the tours. the same is true for the operations and everything. it is indeed quite a challenge in any reorganization that they will have to take that into consideration. one thing you have to consider when you are talking about a reorganization. even if it's well-intentioned in terms of getting more people out into the field. there are morale issues and the context of this is important. you will get a lot of younger officers when you say i will put you through a long series of training exercises and learning languages and doing things and by the way, we are not really sure that the president-elect really has much belief in your intelligence and what you are doing. you put that together and get to a tipping point where productivity and especially cia can are threatened. >> i appreciate you being with us. we will talk obamacare and the president's effort to preserve it and the gop replacing it and changing the law that affects so many people. later we will talk to people in coal country who voted for donald trump and may face losing obamacare. for lower back pain sufferers, the search for relief often leads... here... here... or here. today, there's another option. drug-free aleve direct therapy. a tens device with high intensity power that uses technology once only available in doctors' offices. its wireless remote lets you control the intensity, and helps you get back to things like this... this... or this. and back to being yourself. aleve direct therapy. find yours in the pain relief aisle. this is your daughter. and she just got this. ooh boy. but, you've got hum. so you can set this. and if she drives like this, you can tell her to drive more like this. because you'll get this. you can even set boundaries for so if she should be here, but instead goes here, here, or here. you'll know. so don't worry, mom. because you put this, in here. hum by verizon. the technology designed to make your car smarter, safer and more connected. put some smarts in your car. that's your underwearstrong, dude.cleaner. so clean...keeps you could wear them a second day. charmin ultra strong. it's 4 times stronger, and you can use less enjoy the go with charmin. >> per a tug of war between the incoming and outgoing administration. on the other, vice president mike pence. the flag in the middle is obamacare and what will become of it. >>. >> president obama on capitol hill today urging democrats to battle with all they've got against republican plans to gut his signature law, obamacare. >> look out for the american people. >> democrats don't have the vote to block republicans so his message is to avoid rescuing them. helping them craft their replacement. >> the president asked are you ready? you have the fight in you. he didn't need to ask that question. >> he spurred the democrats like the tea party in opposing obamacare. tell the stories that the millions who benefitted from the plan. as well as hold republicans accountable for what they come up with. he said democrats ought to call it trump care. >> they want to repeal it and hang it on us. not going to happen. their responsibility plain and simple. the republican plan to cut health care wouldn't make america great again. it would make america sick again. and lead to chaos. >> virtually the same time, republicans girting for the epic fight. it is described as more pep rally than policy discussion. >> promises of obamacare have all been proven to be false. if you like your doctor, you can keep them. not true. if you like your health insurance, you can keep it. not true. >> this law failed. americans are struggling. >> the president-elect also jumping into the debate in a series of tweets seeming to warn republicans not to work too closely with democrats. they failed with massive premium increases. be careful. the white house hammered americans for not replacing the plan. the budget office estimates cutting obamacare could add to the deficit overtime. >> the republican ideas are bad for people. they are bad for the economy. bad for small businesses. they have bad ideas. >> from the white house, do we know will president obama continue to work on this after he leaves office? >> it was interesting as a member of congress was leaving and he said the president made it clear he would keep lending his voice even as a private citizen. one of the things president obama said was that he envied them. they will be on the field as he would fighting for this when he leaves office. the white house backed away from him getting involved at least publicly. they said he will try to do what past former presidents have done and back away. they said that the president believes it's time for others to take the lead. it's time for fresh blood as they put it. he is not going engage on a regular basis, although they wouldn't rule out him feeling like he wants to lend his voice. i guess it will be on a case by case basis. they made it sound like he will try to stay out of the fray, but not rule out him jumping in from time to time. >> o appreciate it. thanks and back with you. saying that democrats are to try to make americans own whatever the ramifications are. >> that makes sense. this is the first chance for republicans to show how they will lead now. they have control of the power in washington and they want to do this for a long time. they passed bills to repeal dozens of times and think everybody said what are you going to reflays with? they said the dog caught the car and don't know what to do with it. they don't have any idea about this repeal and delay. they will repeal it and sort of kick the can down the field in four years and give them time to come up with a replacement. >> it does seem they would have to have something to replace it. >> you suggest there is like 18 million insurance customers and they will probably weigh in. the swamp has not been drained. they are donors and they have friends. they will make a few phone calls. my expectation is they will have a big round of finger-pointing and positioning and we will see renaming of things. they will say it's new and different and rebrand it and the compromise that will let everybody move forward other than impose ka taft officer onny. >> donald trump during the campaign and the coverage on preexisting conditions. he wants to keep the coverage and people as they are older up to 26 years old can stay on their parents's insurance. there is not a lot of details. >> i engine will -- you have the finger forward and backwards. they know it will be back. i don't have any doubt and embrace it. i don't think president obama imagined this will be called obamacare and this would be a bad thing. i think i may have said i have been stopped by people. this was their gripe. a man had a stroke and had to deal with obamacare and he was furious. the decision has been made to replace it. the trump administration should be bold and go out and take the credit and change it. >> a lot of people like obamacare and there are problems with it and it needs to be fixed, but it's inibcredible fo the republicans to not have a plan. to tell the democrats you don't know what you are doing and not have any plan. >> i don't think that's true. we just don't know it. >> that's ridiculous with all due respect. that's what you say when you are insulting someone. throughout the whole campaign, we heard their band playing. they have been on capitol hill trying to take it away with nothing to replace it. donald trump promised i think it was the 60 minutes interview that nothing would be repealed. people need not worry until there was something to replace it with. his vice president is saying a totally different message. this is not about politics. it's what should be happening. that's not a joke. that laugh is about the problem we have. what should be happening now is republican and democrats should be listening to americans. find out what works and what doesn't and together write a plan to fix it. what we are seeing now is pivots to don't own it. people are sick and that gets it. >> this election was a mandate on whether or not obamacare works, donald trump did win the election. >> but he won the election that pains me to say, but it is a fact. i will say we will repeal obamacare and replace it. now he said we will repeal it and hang on rk, there will be something maybe tomorrow. >> do they need to replace it immediately? >> i would think they should as soon as possible. these are smart people. surely they have been talking about this for months and months. they have been talking about this for years. >> why can't we hear what they talked about? >> the problem is that obamacare -- get pence off of the capitol hill. >> obamacare is based on a republican why idea. >> that was romney care. >> that are used to be a republican idea. the only other thing i have seen is selling across state lines. anything else? it's astonishing after all this time they don't have the health care plan. these are the buzz words across state lines. >> once are you add the elements, you are right back to obamacare or a version of it. you can't do all of those things. you can't protect from preexisting conditions and keep people on their policy without subsidies. you take them away, you got nothing. you take away the young invincibles and you don't have a way of getting healthy people into it, it doesn't work. >> thus far. >> the bottom line, this has not worked and change has been demanded and it's coming. >> you don't agree with that. >> no. i believe it has work and in some states you see that fabulously. the states that are committed. can it be made better? yes. this is a game causing fear and may cause people to have real life effects. >> we are going to take a break. the latest battle over obamacare. coal miners voted for trump and wonder if their votes will hurt their health and finances. we will talk to them and breaking news, an assault in chicago as they beat as man on camera and stream the video live online. disturbing stuff. showing the details and the details are emerging ahead. lad! anyone ever have occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas or bloating? she does. help defend against those digestive issues. take phillips' colon health probiotic caps daily... ...with three types of good bacteria. 400 likes? wow! phillips. be good to your gut. hashtag stuffy nose. hashtag no sleep. hashtag mouthbreather. just put on a breathe right strip. it instantly opens your nose up to 38% more than cold medicine alone. shut your mouth and say goodnight mouthbreathers. breathe right. it's game on, the battle over obamacare. it was one of his key promises along with bringing back jobs. that won him the support of coal miners, but some are worried their votes will end up hurting their health and finances. >> the coal laden hills of eastern kentucky. >> we will bring the coal industry back. >> trump country. he is a democrat and coal miner initially supported hillary clinton. >> i voted for trump. it may be a mistake, but he said bring coal back. >> a mistake because he suffers from black lung disease. voted for trump to bring jobs back, but he is afraid his black lung benefits will end. >> they may eliminate the black lung program. it may be gone. don't matter how many years you got. >> three sentences in the affordable care act made it easier for victims to get monthly federal benefits if they worked 15 years or more in the mines. if they died, the benefits extended to their widows. >> i will be drawing in $643.42. >> once a month? >> patty just got her first payment. her husband crawford after 32 years in the mines died in 2007. >> to watch someone you live with 45 years, i go from a i have brand man to a child is hard. >> getting the payment can be difficult. even with the law it took her three years. now her widow benefit along with social security and a tiny $62 a month pension keeps her financially afloat. >> this money is important to you. >> absolutely. absolutely. it's not a large amount, but it's enough to pay the bills. >> keeping up with the bills for many a life sometime struggle. so trump's full throated promise of jobs was a powerful message. the unemployment rate is 10.3%. more than twice the national average. >> this area has seen a terrific decline in the number of coal mining jobs in the last five years. those jobs tended to be high paying jobs. >> steven sanders represents miners applying for black lunge obamacare benefits were important. >> president-elect trump said he would restore mining jobs. i don't think he thought about what the affordable care act might mean to miners applying for benefits. >> linda adams's husband tony died years ago and she is app applying for widow benefits. >> you supported donald trump. >> i did. >> if obamacare goes away? 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"thank you for calling hum." and if you really need help, help can find you, automatically, 24/7. because you put this, in here. hum by verizon. the technology designed to make your car smarter, safer and more connected. put some smarts in your car. confirmation for donald trump cabinet picks are set to begin next week including jeff sessions, a nominee for attorney general. he is facing opposition on multiple fronts. activists are arrested after staging a sit in at his office in al bam a. the president was among six people taken into custody. more than 1,000 law professors were set to join opposing sessions's nominations. they vowed to do all they tokd stall it. the controversy goes back decades. >> republican senator jeff sessions, the first u.s. senator to come out in support of donald trump was a u.s. attorney in alabama when then president ronald reagan nominated him for the federal court. the appointment broke down at sessions's confirmation hearing when allegations over his alleged racial remarks took center stage. allegations that sessions angrily denied then and now. >> i am not a racist and insensitive to blacks. i supported civil rights activity in my state. i have done my job with integrity, equality and fairness for all. >> tributes so a black former assistant testified sessions called him boy and joked about the you cku klux klan. >> i never called him boy. >> he also testified that sessions called the naacp and aclu unamerican and communist-inspired. he thought they did more harm than good when they were trying to force civil rights down the throats of people trying to put them behind him. in a heated exchange, sessions denied calling the naacp unamerican. >> my opinion is they have not. they may have taken positions that i can consider to be adverse to the security. >> does that make them unamerican? >> for does not. >> does that make the positions unamerican? >> no. >> he thought clan members were okay until he heard they smoked american. >> i detest the clan. >> he said i am loose with my tongue and may have said something similar to that or could be interpreted to that. the seat was denied and ten years later, he was elected to the senate and became the judiciary committee's top member. he said the allegations of racism was heart breaking. >> that was not fair and not accurate. those were false and distortions of anything i d. it was not. i never had those kinds of views and i was caricatured in a way that was not me. >> he said he stands by his testimony from 30 years ago. >> the allegations that i made against him and things i heard firsthand from him were things that demonstrated gross racial incensensitivity to black citiz of alabama and the united states. >> he said sessions shouldn't be anywhere near the cabinet. >> he never backed off of the comments he made at that time. he never apologized for them. the fact that he would be considered to lead a government agency at the cabinet level is alarming to me. >> he has not seen jeff sessions since they sat next to each other in that hearing in 1986. since then sessions has become the attorney general of alabama and for almost 20 years now, a u.s. senator. cnn, atlanta. >> joining me now is from the congressional black caucus and chief counsel for the committee. he is chief of staff for larry palmer. you work for senator sessions and know the guy. did he exhibit any racist behavior or what do you make of the allegations? >> he never exhibited racial behavior. if you look at mr. hebert, he provided false testimony through two committees during the hearing if you look at the real transcript, he had to sup limit his testimony to admit he lied in that confirmation hearing. >> you are saying categorically that sessions is being smeared should. >> that's exactly right. no doubt in my mind that senator sessions is being smeared. if you look at the transcripts and you look at the testimony hebert provided, he came back and said i'm sorry, i lied in that confirmation hearing. >> how do you think about what he said personally? >> a couple of things here. you hear often people who exhibit racist behavior like i have black friends that does not negate institutional or systemic racism. i don't know if jeff sessions is racist or not, but i know he acknowledged perhaps saying that the naacp was communist or unamerican that worked to protect not only the rights of black people, but all people since 1909. i don't know if he is racist, but a deputy u.s. attorney who worked under him said he called him boy and told him to watch how he talked to white folks. i don't know if he is racist, but i know he worked fraudulently to prosecute an organizer who worked with dr. king and two other activists for voting fraud. the same year he stood before the committee for that nominations. i don't know if he is a bigot, but he worked against immigrants and he supports building a wall. i'm not done, william. i'm almost done. i don't know if he is i bigot, but he said horrible things about the lgbtq community and opposed them. >> and politically he doesn't agree with you. >> i'm not talking about politics. i'm talking about human decency. you don't call a grown black man boy. >> she doesn't know about decency. she doesn't know jeff sessions. never spent 30 seconds with him. i know jeff sessions well. to sit around and say i person you never met and don't know and you never talked to is a racist is inappropriate. >> let me ask you, william. when did you hear me say -- yes, i have met jeff sessions. >> you have not spent 10 minutes with him. >> william, let me help you. even though we are both attorneys, you missed what i said. what i said repeatedly is i don't know if jeff sessions is a racist. i don't know if he is a bigot. i gave you the fruit. i know one thing. we know a tree by the fruit it bears. i don't know if he is racist or not. >> you don't like jeff sessions. >> let her respond. >> you don't like his policies and that's your big problem. the american people like the policies jeff sessions has come up with. that's why he has been reelected and the american people said we stand with jeff sessions. >> the american people have not said that. >> voters have voted. >> in alabama. >> to be their senator for many, many years. he put himself in the public arena. >> but we have people who vote in the south that don't stand where i stand on voting rights. jeff sessions had the opportunity to work to ensure it was easier for people to vote and he -- >> how did he vote on the voting rights act. he voted for. where were you at? >> what has he done for the voting acts amendment. >> when you and probably naacp was a posing janice rogers brown who sat on the bench, jeffs was there to defend her. >> again, you are making a lot of assumptions. that's fine. >> let her answer now. >> tonight you attacked me on my human decency. >> i'm asking you where you were when he was fighting if for civil rights? >> you know where i was? not here. that's not his record. >> you don't know his record. you have a bunch of rhetoric. >> i actually don't. >> show me facts. >> these are facts. you don't like them because you are the one black guy he hired. that doesn't make him a civil rights leader. it doesn't. i'm going to leave it at that. >> you leave it at that because you have nothing. >> i gave you a list. you don't like the list. >> we will take a break. appreciate your perspective. up next, breaking news. an alleged beating broadcast across the shocking video, as well and the story ahead. re. today there's drug-free aleve direct therapy. a high intensity tens device that uses technology once only in doctors' offices. for deep penetrating relief at the source. aleve direct therapy. unlikeso babies can sleeppampers stasoundly all night.s drier, pampers. bakraoui. there's more breaking news tonight. chicago police say four people are in custody after allegedly beating a man and streaming the attack live on facebook. the details are disturbing to say the least. rosa florez joins me now with the latest. chicago police just held a press conference about this tape. what do we know about this? >> reporter: anderson, i just got off the phone with police. with a few more disturbing details. the victim in this particular case was targeted because he has a mental health challenge. they described him as someone who was very tender. while it took some police work, they said, they were able to find the offender, four people in custody. according to police, officers were patrolling on the westside of chicago when they saw a man that was disoriented and traumatized. the officers sent him to the hospital actually, anderson. then there was a battery call that came in. police officers respond to that. they were able to link the evidence from this battery call to this disoriented man and then there you have it. video on social media that was able to fill in the picture. before we show you this video, we should warn you that it is very disturbing. take a look. >> yeah, grab that be [ bleeped ]. >> gee. boy. >> why you do this. >> ain't no blood on the blade. [ bleeped ]. >> [ crying ] >> oh, my brother. >> he represent trump. >> hot head speaking. you all see this? we put this in trump. put a brick on the dash. >> understand? >> that was broadcast live on social media while they were doing that, right? they're talking about donald trump. they're saying, i mean, it seems like in their words, there's some sort of racial dimension to all this. >> reporter: you know, it does sound like that. we asked the police about that. the obvious question is, is this a hate crime, somehow related to politics and all thetingses post the election. police say at this point, they're still investigating but do believe they tell me, that this is more related to this young man's mental health challenge. you saw in that video, he's white, the offenders, you saw in that video are black. it definitely raises all of these questions, but at this point, they still say they are still investigating motive. >> what about the victim in this? how is he doing now? >> you know, the police say that he's very traumatized. they say he had a lot of difficulty to even start speaking to investigators or the police because of the condition that he was found in. police say that they don't know if he spent 24 or even 48 hours with this group. and they don't know exactly what they did to him, of course. they're still investigating that. he's still being examined. and but anderson, we should know more within 24 hours. that's when we're expecting for charges to be filed and when those charges do happen, then we'll know a little more as to what transpired. >> thanks very much. much more ahead in the next hour of 360, including what a top scholar thinks of the ongoing war between donald trump and the u.s. intelligence agencies. e toe put under a microscope, we can see all the bacteria that still exists. polident's unique micro clean formula works in just 3 minutes, killing 99.99% of odor causing bacteria. for a cleaner, fresher, brighter denture every day. this is your daughter. and she just got this. ooh boy. but, you've got hum. so you can set this. and if she drives like this, you can tell her to drive more like this. because you'll get this. you can even set boundaries for so if she should be here, but instead goes here, here, or here. you'll know. so don't worry, mom. because you put this, in here. hum by verizon. the technology designed to make your car smarter, safer and more connected. put some smarts in your car. ugh. heartburn. sorry ma'am. no burning here. try alka-seltzer heartburn relief gummies. they don't taste chalky and work fast. mmmm. incredible. can i try? she doesn't have heartburn. alka-seltzer heartburn relief gummies. enjoy the relief. good evening. topping the hour, breaking news in president-elect trump's running b running running battle with the intelligence community president-elect today casting fresh doubt on the intelligence

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