The bus. Today also saw a large bipartisan majority in the house vote to condemn President Trumps actions in syria and saw the Senate Majority leader, a republican, call that action, quote, a mistake. And this meeting which democrats walked out of capped a day of contradictory and misleading statements on the crisis from the president even as secretary of state pompeo and Vice President pence are getting ready to travel to turkey to try and get turkey to stop what theyre doing. The president seems to have already undercut that effort. Oh, and in addition to all that, more bad news for tv lawyer and ukraine biden dirt finder Rudy Giuliani. Another of his associates has been arrested and another ukraine witness went before congress. Theres also tonight new reporting that ties the acting white house chief of staff to the ukraine affair and the president made some statements contradicting claims, including his own, that this had anything to do with actual corruption in ukraine. Corruption he said today was all about the 2016 election, Hillary Clintons server, and president obama, not really anything to do with corruption in ukraine. Well touch on all of that tonight. But we begin with the white house meeting on turkey and syria and the president ial meltdown. Speaker pelosi says it produced. She attributed the president s behavior in part to the house vote against him earlier today. He was shaken up by it, and thats why we couldnt continue in the meeting because he was just not relating to the reality of it. What we witnessed on the part of the president was a meltdown, sad to say. The white house denies this, saying in a statement that the president was, and i quote, measured, factual and decisive. As for majority leader mcconnell when asked about his perceptions of the meeting, he merely said, and i quote, i didnt make any observations in the meeting. I dont have any to make now. Well, he may not have made any observations, but it is noticeable and notable that the president s top ally in the senate is not trying to refute Speaker Pelosis account. The president s sudden decision to pull special forces troops from their positions in Northern Syria may have green lit the invasion by turkey, the killing of kurds, the escape of isis prisoners and a land grab by syrias dictator Bashar Al Assad and his backers, russia and iran. Quoting now from this letter to erdogan, quote, lets work out a good deal. You dont want to be responsible for slaughtering thousands of people, and i dont want to be responsible for destroying the turkish economy, and i will. The letter is dated the ninth of this month. That is the same day that turkish troops went into Northern Syria and kurds began being slaughters. Shortly thereafter, isis fighters began escaping kurdish custody. The president was asked about all of that today. Even after all you have seen, isis prisoners freed, all the humanitarian disaster, you dont have any regret for giving erdogan the green light to invade. I didnt give him a green light. Thats the same thing as you just you know, when you make a Statement Like that, its so deceptive. Just the opposite of a green light. The opposite of a green light, which i guess would be a red light or red line, a stern warning not to invade perhaps or a decision not to pull the small number of american troops who were holding back the turks from invading and attacking the kurds, our allies in the fight against isis. But the president didnt draw a line in the sand, red or otherwise. In fact, in that same press conference today, he said he expected the turks to invade. President erdogans decision didnt surprise me because hes wanted to do that for a long time. Hes been building up troops on the border with syria for a long time as you know. So he expected the turks would invade. He sees the troops building up on the border for a long time, and he decides to suddenly and without much warning remove the one obstacle to it, u. S. Special forces who have been living with and fighting with and training the kurds. Doesnt that seem like a pretty clear example of what a green light would look like . If this was all unexpected if this was all as expected, i should say, then why the threatening letter . Why the push for economic sanctions on what is, after all, a nato ally . Why send the Vice President and secretary of state to turkey tonight if this is all going to plan and is strategically brilliant . Why the apparent rage at the meeting this afternoon . One answer is simple. The president didnt see this coming or didnt care what happened there. What sure seems to be the case if you listen to the way he describes our kurdish allies. You have to say it. Nobody wants to say it. Were making the kurds look like theyre angels. We paid a lot of money to the kurds, tremendous amounts of money. Weve given them massive fortunes, and you know what . Its wonderful. They fought with us, but we paid a lot for them to fight with us. They fought isis and about 11,000 kurds were killed in that fight. In addition to that, on top of the casting the kurds aside, the president also repeated his allegation that the kurds have intentionally released isis fighters from prisons, an allegation he has offered no proof of. Just so you understand, we were the ones that captured isis. People let some go. They opened a couple of doors to make us look as bad as possible. This claim has been called false by a Senior Pentagon official who tells cnn the president , quote, falsely claiming that the sdf kurds are letting isis prisoners out of prison is wrong because theyre the people that defeated isis, wrong because they are currently risking their lives to defend our forces, and wrong because they are fighting a force that intends to eliminate their people because we greenlighted their operation. Earlier i spoke with senator bob menendez, the ranking democrat on the Senate Foreign relations committee, who was in that meeting with the president. Senator menendez, you heard Speaker Pelosi say that the president had a, quote, meltdown, her words. Majority leader schumer said he was very nasty, his word. You, yourself, tweeted listening to the president made you feel deeply concerned for the country. Can you talk about what happened in the meeting, what you saw . Well, from the moment the president came in, i would describe him as belligerent. He smacked down a series of files on the table and said, well, you all asked for this meeting. I reluctantly gave it to you. And Speaker Pelosi said, well, with all due respect, mr. President , we didnt ask for a meeting with you. We asked for a briefing to understand the consequences of the actions you took. And then he said, well, then lets end the meeting. She said while im here as the speaker, i have an obligation to tell you that the house just voted 350someodd to i forget exactly what the amount was, but it was an overwhelming bipartisan vote, to disapprove the actions that you took in syria. And then he got that devolved into thats nothing but a hit job on the republicans. And she said, well, many republicans joined us. And then he called Speaker Pelosi a thirdrate politician. He said that the kurds were nothing but communists and all of us democrats who were seated there must be happy with that, you know, suggesting that we all subscribe to this view of being communists. And then, you know, it just it was belligerent and something i have never seen in 27 years here in congress and serving under four different president s. Ive never seen a moment like this. Thats not how these meetings usually go . No. Well, not with other president s, and ive had president s from clinton to bush to obama and now trump. I was in the white house with president bush when he was president. We might have disagreements, but, it was never disagreeable and always respectful, and there was exchanges of views. As i said to the president when i stayed after the speaker left and several others left, mr. President , everybody here loves country. Nobody here loves it more than another. But we can have a disagreement as is evidenced by the fact that the house overwhelmingly with republicans voted to disagree with you. Youre the commander in chief, but i disagree with what you did, and heres what im concerned about the consequences, the reconstituting of isis. I said i dont know if the military people tell you, but your Inspector General at the department of defense says theres still 14,000 to 18,000 isis fighters in syria. If the 10,000 have been detained get unleashed and are freed, youre talking about a potential fighting force of up to 30,000. Thats a clear and present danger to the United States. Youve opened up a land bridge for iran to bring serious weaponry and to potentially attack our ally the state of israel. Thats a huge risk. And, you know, at the end of the day, youve changed the political dynamics of the region with just one stroke, i said. And your sanctions on turkey have been absolutely nothing. The turkish stock market went up the next day. So, you know, this is how did he respond to that . He he basically started saying that, number one, you know, well, we can destroy turkeys economy, but you dont want to drive turkey into the russians, which, of course, turkey has already been with the russians. Theyve been buying the s400 from the russians which is sanctionable under u. S. Law. Hes also just given russia a huge victory in syria. Theyve been supporting and propping up the regime as well as iran to the point you made earlier. Absolutely. Look, the big winners, as i suggested to him, the big winners are iran, russia, and even turkey in this regard. And so this letter that he handed out to all of us at the beginning, which if he hadnt handed it out himself, i would have thought was not a real letter, but basically this is the letter he wrote to erdogan in turkey . This is the letter he wrote to erdogan in turkey, which he gave out to everybody member who was there. Basically it strikes me as a letter to cover your backside, because what he unleashed he now cannot recall. Its to try to respond to the incredible criticism. Its an incredible letter the way its written. Yeah. Ive read it. It does not i mean its not the kind of letter i thought a president of the United States would send to, you know, the president of turkey. It just it does not read as i mean at one point i think it sort of ends with, dont be a tough guy. Dont be a fool. Ill call you later. Yeah, thats how it ends. And it just its just to me, it was to be able to first of all, the letter is just an incredible letter the way its dictated, but it sounds like its definitely dictated directly from him the way he thinks and speaks. And secondly, it was to try to, you know, cover himself for what was unleashed with the turks going ahead and invading into Northern Syria and the consequences that flow thereafter. I want to ask you about Something Else which sounds incredible. Were told by a democratic source familiar with the meeting that senator schumer read a quote from former defense secretary james mattis, who said, quote, in this case if we dont keep the pressure on, then isis will resurge. Its absolutely a given they will come back, and that the president replied, according to this source, by calling mattis, quote, the worlds most overrated general, end quote, and continued, you know why . He wasnt tough enough. I captured isis. Mattis said it would take two years. I captured them in one month. Is that accurate . That is accurate, and he further called general mattis weak. All of what you said is exactly as it transpired. What do you make of that . This is why i tweeted after spending an hour with the president , im concerned for the nation and for our fight against isis. I think the president has no is out of touch with reality. I think he has no concept of what he has unleashed, and i dont think he understands the consequences. He suggested, well, theyre 7,000 miles away. Why should we fight there . And another colleague reminded him that on september 11th, they traveled over 7,000 miles and had one of the worst, you know, tragedies in our countrys history in an act of terrorism. I dont think he understands at all what is at stake here, and thats why it worries me. I had never seen this in all of the years that ive served in a National Security post on the senate and house Foreign Relations committee, and i think he has no grasp of it. I think he has no grasp of what hes unleashed in the region beyond syria. I dont think he understands how hes empowered iran, a country that hes supposedly battling on their nuclear program. He has empowered iran. He has empowered turkey, who has not been a good nato ally in this regard and is creating a whole other series of issues. And hes given russia a major role in the middle east that it never had, always aspired to have, and now many countries in the region are recalibrating and thinking about who do i align myself and what do i do . I guess just finally, you know, what is your sense of what is going on with the president . You said he has lost touch. Hes obviously angered his own party with what hes done in syria. He is making egregious, you know, false, uninformed comments. Hes also obviously under pressure from impeachment. Is he able to handle this pressure . Well, what i saw is not the cool, calm hand of someone who holds the nuclear code to the country. I did not see a person in control, and the belligerence, the demeanor, the lack of temperament is is not what id want to see in the president of the United States whether they be a democrat or republican. Senator menendez, i appreciate your time. Thank you. Thank you. Much more ahead tonight including a new photo from inside the white house meeting. Later, more on the syria crisis from a democratic senator who is also a wounded iraq war veteran. With advil, you have power over pain, so the whole world looks different. The unbeatable strength of advil. 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Because life can take you almost anywhere, tmobile is with you. No signal goes farther or is more reliable in keeping you connected. Perhaps not unexpectedly, President Trump is trying to get mileage from the democratic walkout of the syria meeting at the white house with the words Nancy Pelosis unhinge the meltdown the president tweeted out an official white house photo. This photo of the session showing the speaker standing up and pointing her finger in the direction of the president as his team bracketed him. The president has a hardtoread look on his face. You can judge for yourself. It is meant as an insult. Normally we wouldnt actually show this photograph because it was taken by an official white house photographer and there was no pool reporters present who could actually vouch for the accuracy of what was happening in that moment. But were showing it to you because moments after the president posted his tweet, the speaker made the photo the cover on her official twitter page and now is using it for her own purposes. Joining us now to discuss all the latest on the meeting, the larger syrian crisis, david axelrod, jen psaki, a cnn political commentator and cnn legal analyst carrie cordero. David, this photo that the president tweeted out at todays meeting, its clearly trying to cast Speaker Pelosi as the one having the meltdown, which is the word she used to describe the president s behaviors. I mean i dont know, what do you make of this whole meeting . Is it the democrats simply trying to make hay out of a meeting that went badly, or is it reason for real concern . Look, you know, were talking about the meeting. The subject of the meeting is what should really concern people. Donald trump spent, you know, a lifetime in business. His practice was to abrogate contracts and agreements. Now hes raised that to the level of National Policy in the world, american policy in the world. Whats happened over the last ten days is truly horrifying. Thats why they were there, to talk about this policy. You know, i think he is i think hes losing it. I mean i think hes feeling the pressure of this impeachment. But, you know, not only to diss the speaker, i mean youd expect that from him. But general mattis . You know, one of the most decorated military men of his generation. Who, by the way, he made a lot of political hay out of calling him mad dog mattis. He would announce him in front of rallies. He would praise him to the heavens. It is just yet another example of there is nobody who this president will not throw under the bus as soon as they leave the room. But, you know, there was such the implications for the military here are really profound. I think weve read about what the special forces there felt about their removal, essentially having to abandon their kurdish allies. And that sends a reverberating force around the military. But to diss mattis now adds to it. He is estranging himself from every institution of government, from all of our allies in the world, and it is a horrifying situation. Carrie, President Trump opened his meeting with congressional leaders today bragging about his, quote, nasty letter to erdogan. It seems like hes proud of this letter. Theres certainly a lot of people who, when they first saw this letter, they thought it was a joke. They thought it was actually like a hoax letter that had been pretended to be signed by the president. But its actually apparently what the president sent or, you know, at least its dated three days after the call, the day turkey invaded. Right. So he i mean the letter is insane. I wondered if it was a real letter, and i saw reporters that had to confirm that it actually was because its not anything that weve ever seen come out before. Why do you say that . For people who havent seen the letter, what about it is so weird . Well, because, i mean, its written in a way that is it is written often the way that he speaks. It is not a way that you would normally expect someone to conduct Foreign Policy. But this is the way that he conducts Foreign Policy. We just put on the screen part of what the letter is so i just want to quickly read it. This is to erdogan who on this day of the letter has launched an invasion to kill the kurds and take over territory, create a buffer zone. History will look upon you favorably, President Trump says, if you get this done the right and humane way. It will look upon you forever as the devil if good things dont happen. Dont be a tough guy. Dont be a fool. And then the final line was ill call you later. Look, its ridiculous. But it shows how he is actually conducting American Foreign policy. I think sometimes when we say he doesnt understand or, you know, he doesnt understand sort of how to do these things, we have to recognize this is actually how hes conducting Foreign Policy. And what weve seen unfold over the course of the last week with his phone call with erdogan and then this letter that hes trying to cover up a little bit, i think probably what was in the phone call where he probably let erdogan go ahead and do what he was going to do, is were seeing what is basically his doctrine of Foreign Policy, which is transactional, which is u. S. Military engagement or u. S. Foreign policy engagement based on whether or not were being compensated or how much its going to cost us. It is a Foreign Policy that is valuesfree. Its a Foreign Policy that is counter to our counterterrorism interests. Its something that he thinks is based on his personal relationships, and so theres always that question about whether his interactions with foreign leaders are friendly because he has some other business interest that might be in play. Yeah. He doesnt care about strategic alliances. And so were really seeing a revamping of American Foreign policy. Jen, for all the talk about how tough the president the president always says hes so tough on russia and the example that was always used was the american troops in syria, the russians arent happy about that. This is a huge victory for russia. Russian troops have now quickly occupied the bases, the forward bases that u. S. Special forces have been in, and now hes just basically kind of linking all the kurds to the pkk, which is an organization which, you know, turkey does have legitimate concerns about terror attacks. But that you know, the kurds who are fighting and dying for the u. S. And for themselves in the battle against isis, those are our allies. Thats right. And we would not have defeated isis in the parts of syria we did without them. They were a key partner in that. His Foreign Policy, i would add to carries excellent rundown there, is also without regard for consequences. Thats not how any president or any National Security experts ever conduct Foreign Policy. In addition to russia. We know that because rt is bizarrely inside some of these bases. But also iran now has an opening to play a bigger role here. One of the questions that came up reportedly in this meeting from senator schumer and others is what is your plan for containing isis . There are thousands of isis fighters that have been held by the kurds. Whats going to happen . And he didnt have a plan. So this has now become a National Security issue for the United States. Of course it is absolutely horrific to leave our partners, the kurds, as we have to be slaughtered by turkey. But now we are talking about thousands of isis fighters being out there without any regard or any plan on how to address it. Thanks so much. Just ahead, a look at the latest testimony on capitol hill when it comes to the ukraine crisis. Also situation, i could say. Also, even more troubling issues for Rudy Giuliani. Saturdays happen. Pain happens. Aleve it. Aleve is proven better on pain than tylenol. When pain happens, aleve it. All day strong. Goldi knows to never compromise. Too shabby too much too perfect i can rent this . For that price . Absolutely. What is this, some kind of fairy tale . Its just right book your just right rental at thrifty. Com. Oh baby bear only lexus asks questions like these, because we believe the most amazing machines are inspired by you. Experience the rewards of our curiosity. Hendless shrimp even hotter . S you bring back Nashville Hot oh yeah its back. Crispy shrimp. Tossed in a spicy rub. And drizzled with sweet amber honey. More shrimp more ways. 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Are you concerned that bolton could be called to testify in your impeachment inquiry . Look, john bolton, i get along well with him. Some people didnt. Some people didnt like john bolton. I actually got along with him pretty well. It just didnt work out. I dont know that he got along with Rudy Giuliani. The president went on to say this about what giuliani was doing in ukraine, tying him directly to his pressure on ukraines president to investigate the 2016 election. Rudy giuliani was seeking out corruption and what happens mostly in the 2016 election because there was tremendous corruption in the 2016 election. I think even you would admit that. Nothing he said there about dirt on the bidens, which is obviously the other part of that call. Again, the president is saying that to him, corruption in ukraine means really his own political fortunes, not Good Government in kiev. It further undermines his claim that he was not asking for something of personal value from ukraines president on the call that he calls perfect. The Washington Post citing testimony that reported acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney at the direction of the president placed a hold on nearly 400 million in aid to ukraine in the weeks before the phone call with ukraines president. In other words, if the reporting bears out, that would be the quid in the quid pro quo or, put differently, a very big deal. There was more congressional testimony today. Former state Department Senior advisor Michael Mckinley telling lawmakers that he repeatedly asked secretary of state mike pompeo for a show of support for the ousted u. S. Ambassador to ukraine, but was greeted with silence from the secretary of state. Joining us now is congressman david cicilline, who sits on the Foreign Affairs and judiciary committees and was in the room for parts of todays testimony. Congressman, i know you are limited about what you can say about the testimony of Michael Mckinley. In general can you say if it tracked with what other witnesses have been saying . Yes. I think what were learning from the witnesses we heard from today and the witnesses the committee has been hearing from for the last two weeks is that the president s phone call to president zelensky was really the tip of the iceberg. There was an elaborate scheme in which the president engaged many parts of the state department and people outside the government to advance his plan to ask for assistance from the president of ukraine to dig up dirt on his political opponent. This is a tremendous abuse of power, abuse of his office. It compromised the National Security of the United States and the integrity of our elections. It was a betrayal of his oath of office. What were seeing is this wasnt just sort of a oneshot deal. This was an elaborate scheme developed by the president and his cronies to get a foreign leader to interfere in the 2020 president ial election to help donald trump get reelected. Its a terrible betrayal of his oath of office. Its unamerican, unpatriotic, and were collecting evidence that i think will compel the congress to take action to hold the president accountable. Did mr. Mckinley shed any light on what secretary pompeo did or didnt do in regards to ambassador yovanovitchs removal from ukraine . Well, i cant comment specifically on his testimony, but i can tell you that what were learning is that career diplomats, individuals who have dedicated their lives to serving our country and representing the United States in dangerous places all over the world, expected the president of the United States will support and defend the work of our diplomats. And i think what were learning is that the president discharged the American Ambassador to the ukraine because that individual refused to play ball and was somehow impeding this scheme to put pressure on the new ukrainian president to interfere in an american president ial election. We also know the president directed that the military aid of almost 400 million be held up. We should remember, ukraine is a country that was invaded by russia, who took part of their country. They were killing ukrainians in eastern ukraine. Their lifeline was American Military assistance, so holding that up and threatening not to provide it in exchange for a favor, as the president described it in the phone call, is the worst kind of leverage you can imagine for a new president. Yeah. I mean human lives are literally on the front lines. I mean people could be killed waiting for, you know, defensive weapons, offensive weapons, anything to defend themselves. Yeah. Also remember what this does to russias aggression in this region. One of the reasons that were so supportive of ukraine and the ukraine democracy is because we want to protect against further growth of russias power in this region of the world. And so our tying the hands of the new Ukrainian Government by holding up military aid that congress had approved until you get a promise to get help in your Political Campaign has consequences for the National Security interests of the United States. I know this is kind of off what we were really going to talk about. But you bring up russia. So it helps russia in ukraine. The latest syria pullout helps russia in syria. They now have the territory that u. S. Forces used to have. It weakens american influence in the entire middle east and bolsters russias influence. I mean its hard to see a president and his attacks on nato and our allies its hard to see a president who has not done more for russia than this president. Thats whats so disturbing. Its been difficult to understand from the very beginning when the president defended russia, said they didnt in fact interfere with our election when we know they attacked our democracy. That was the collective conclusion of all of our intelligence agencies. The president stood in helsinki and said, no, no, i believe Vladimir Putin, not the u. S. Intelligence community. And then he engaged in a number of behaviors you just described, all that benefit Vladimir Putin and russian influence and russian objectives. And its hard to find one thing this president has done to stand up for america and against russian interests in a variety of different ways. The kurds are the most recent example. It begins to raise the question, why is the president of the United States so interested in cozying up to Vladimir Putin and making excuses for their attack on our democracy, trying to explain away their interference in our election . Why . I think thats a fair question for the American People to be asking. Appreciate it, thank you very much. Just ahead ill talk with a senator who has had a distinguished military career about President Trumps syria policy and what comes next. amber jagger if we dont give students from an underserved background the technology that they need in school, theyre not going to be competitive in the workforce thats waiting for them. Since verizon innovative learning, students have hardware, connectivity, and quality curriculum. The jobs of tomorrow will involve technology. Now students are truly hopeful for what they may achieve. Theyre americas bpursuing lifechanging cures. In a country that fosters innovation here, they find breakthroughs. Like a way to fight cancer by arming a patients own tcells. Because its not just about the next breakthrough. Its all the ones after that. 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Even senator Majority Leader Mitch Mcconnell today called it a, quote, mistake. Just before air time i spoke with democratic senator Tammy Duckworth of illinois, a distinguished veteran of the iraq war. Senator, what do you make of President Trump saying that turkeys incursion into Northern Syria, quote, has nothing to do with us because if it werent for his conversation with erdogan, this would not be happening. He did essentially green light it by pulling special forces out of the area. Look, anderson, in the space of a little over seven days, President Trump has diminished americas role as the leader of the free world by doing several things. One, he abandoned our kurdish allies who fought and died alongside our troops for the last several decades. Hes emboldened the russians who are patrolling in the area that we used to have our special forces and patrol. He has emboldened assad, a murderous dictator. He has also gotten into a situation where a nato ally, turkey, has actually fired artillery on american forces. I dont think any of those are an America First policy and i dont think any of those things make America Great again. So i have no idea where hes coming from, but he could not be more wrong about the situation. Its also given a win to iran whose allies are backing the assad regime. Is it clear what the strategy is here from the white house or even if there is a strategy . Because the Vice President and secretary of state are making this trip over to turkey supposedly to meet with erdogan and push for some sort of ceasefire. The president is riffing during a photo opp, undermining everything, saying he doesnt really care about tur akeys invasion. Well, its very clear theres no strategy involved whatsoever and the president just did this on his own. Now hes sending mr. Pompeo, whos our secretary of state, but a guy with no actual success rate in international negotiations. And Vice President pence, a man with no Foreign Policy experience, to go meet with erdogan, a man who actually rolled our president over a phone call . Theres no strategy here, anderson. Also the president seems to paint the kurds with a pretty broad brush. There are terrorist threats that legitimate terrorist threats that turkey has and concerns they have about the pkk. But the president is saying that the kurds are no angels, criticized their ability to fight without u. S. Help, said we paid them a lot of money, said they didnt help us in world war ii in normandy of all things. Do you think he doesnt is he just trying to make excuses for a rash decision . Hes clueless, anderson. Hes clueless. Just ask any u. S. Troops who served anytime in iraq, anytime in the region. The kurds have lost 11,000 fighters fighting and dying alongside american troops. There are many number of american troops whose lives have been saved by the kurdish fighters who stood alongside us. By abandoning the kurdish allies, weve told people in the region dont work with americans because we will abandon you. Who is going to work with u. S. Forces now . Whos going to tell us the intelligence we need to know because they know that working with americans does not benefit you in the end. Were just going to abandon you to be slaughtered the way we abandoned the kurds to be slaughtered by the turks. Whats so sad about this, when south vietnam, when saigon finally fell, there were a lot of people who had helped the United States who were not taken out, you know, who were left behind and paid the price for that when, you know, there is plenty of interpreters and people who have worked for u. S. Forces in afghanistan and iraq who have not gotten the visas that were sort of dangled in front of them in order for their help. Those seem to pale in comparison to this betrayal of a force of fighters who have been on the front lines more so than u. S. Forces. Its not like weve had tens of thousands of troops in these regions. The kurds have done most of the actual fighting and dying, 10,000 or more. Well, i mean i would not expect this president to learn any lessons from vietnam since he wasnt there, and also obviously was not a student or scholar of the vietnam conflict and the Lessons Learned from that. Bottom line, im looking moving forward if i were a Division Commander right now or a commander of a u. S. Special forces group, i would be looking at dusting off my plans for potentially being called to go back into the area to fix this mess the president has gotten us into. You think that might be necessary . Oh, i think its very much its very likely to happen because the president has now put american personnel, both civilian and military, in danger. Not just whats happened in syria, because this whole area is all interconnected. Those isis fighters are headed towards iraq, and we have forces in iraq right now. Are you pleased with what youre hearing from republicans in congress . Theres a lot of them that are not backing the president here. Lindsey graham has been a little bit all over the place. He was first upset with the president , then he cut him some slack and now he seems upset again. Heres the deal, anderson. Theres one person and one person alone who can fix this and that is donald trump. Hes the guy that made this decision. Hes the guy that basically greenlighted turkey to conduct this invasion. All this, the release of the isis fighters is Donald Trumps fault. Thats where it lies. Sure, we can pass sanctions all we want, but at the end of the day its donald trump who has to fix us. Hes the one that got us into this mess and hes responsible for those hundreds of thousands of isis fighters being set free. Senator duckworth, i appreciate your time. Thank you. Thank you. Well, just ahead, a victory for a sandy hook father in the fight against conspiracy theorists. 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