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Officials, it is highly likely that a bomb plant by isis or one of its affiliates destroyed that russian jet over the Sinai Peninsula. Intelligence suggests the bombers may have received assistance from inside the airport, but russian and egyptian officials reject those theories. They say theyre speculative, premature, they urge caution. They say theres no evidence to support any conclusions. Britain is taking no chances, though. It has suspended all flights in and out of Sharm El Sheikh airport where, of course, the doomed flight originated. Right now egypts president is in london for meetings with the british Prime Minister. Lets get over to Senior International correspondent Clarissa Ward is in london. Shes watching this meeting as this meeting has been taking place. What has been coming out of it . Reporter well, kate, the egyptian president , Abdel Fatteh El Sisi sat down with the british Prime Minister for two hours. In a statement afterwards he said the egyptians would do anything they can to cooperate with british authorities and British Security officials on the ground in Sharm El Sheikh who are essentially trying to comb through the security processes that are going on in that airport and to improve them to get to a point where those flights can resume back and forth, to and from Sharm El Sheikh. Now earlier in the day the before theish Prime Minister David Cameron met with his cabinet. He held an emergency meeting and afterwards he made a statement saying, while its not certain that it was a bomb that brought down this passenger jet, it was, quote, more likely than not. So still couching his language. He also wouldnt be drawn on the issue of whether or not isis is responsible for this attack. If, indeed, this was an attack, he also said that he had a conversation with president putin of russia to try to explain some of the intelligence that has led the British Government to take this fairly drastic measure. Now the focus here in the uk, kate, is on really trying to get some of those roughly 20,000 british citizens who are stranded in Sharm El Sheikh, back to the united kingdom. That effort is expected to be under way tomorrow. Were hearing egyptian leader saying british have been asking us to look at our airports for ten months, which is natural. Whats not natural is shutting down flights to this region. Something the british would not be doing, something these independent airlines would not be doing unless they had real reason to worry. So far at least, from where youre standing, egypt and the egyptian leader havent been offering real explanation. Reporter no, he hasnt really offered any explanation. We know the egyptians feel that the u. S. And the uk have been too quick to come out with this warning. What the Prime Minister here said, we cant take any risks when it comes to the lives of british citizens. Well take any preemptive actions we think are necessary. Obviously, this is a sticky issue. Tourism is a huge source of revenue for the egyptian government. President sisi was here on what was supposed to be a threeday state visit where they would discuss trade and security, and that has been marred by this issue, which obviously is now topping the agenda. Clarissa ward for us outside 10 downing street in london. Where british leaders have been meeting with the egyptian leaders. So much to discuss there. And not broad agreement at this point. Lights bring in paul and cnns intelligence and security analyst, bob bair. Its great to see you both. Paul, i know youve been looking into this. The significance, essentially, if this is an isis affiliate putting a bomb on a plane, the significance of it cant be missed. The most significant terrorist attack since 9 11, second deadliest since 9 11. But this would turbo charge isiss popularity in the global jihadi movement, increase their standing. Theres so much anger right now in the sunni muslim world against the russians. Its also targeting an aircraft, so its a spectacular attack, which will hurt the egyptian economy, lead to more unemployment, lead to more fertile environment for terrorists recruitment. All sorts of reasons why this is a significant event. And may lead to geopolitical reverberations. Russia may play a bigger role in the syria intervention, may pivot towards striking isis. That could play into isiss hands. You can see even more foreign fighters going to syria. So, bob, the United States and britain say it was likely an isis bomb attack. Thats where theyre leaning right now. Egypt and russia say, no, not so fast. We dont buy it. Is this a case of not believing that it was a bomb attack or not wanting to admit it . They dont want to admit it moscow nor cairo have good credibility, especially on terrorism. They are both in denying. Putin is personally tied to this policy in syria. Claiming he can suppress this movement. The Islamic Movement in syria. This is a huge setback for putin. Its something he doesnt want to readily admit. Hed like to put some time between a finding on this airplane so i would definitely go with cameron in london, their assessment. Lets not forget, were not seeing the intelligence. Theres a lot of chatter, probably chatter before the attack as well as after. You look at the context, shrapnel wounds to some of the passengers, you look at the flash right before the plane went down and the rest of it. I think camerons probably got good reason to suspect this was a bomb that brought that airplane down. So, paul, if isis is planting bombs on planes, in Sharm El Sheikh, can they plant bombs on other planes . The capability may be an insider at the airport. If you have an insider at the airplane, you dont have to put the bomb through Airport Security scanners. It doesnt sister to be you can put it directly on the plane. All that expensive technology, not much point if someones working at the airport, can smuggle a bomb on a plane. The worry is theyll have other recruits in other airports elsewhere in the middle east. The worry also is that potentially this mole hasnt been arrested yet. I think that may be one reason theyre being so coy in all their statements, not giving detail saying its up to investigators. Were not going to tell you. Isis themselves. To protect someone working at the airport for them. Talk to me about the Sinai Peninsula. Whats going on there . Is this a hot bed of activity. We know syria, libya, is sinai now the latest hot spot . It is. The Islamic State calls it the sinai province, claims loyalty to Islamic State. A lot of groups there. Its an ongoing battle between the Egyptian Army and fundamentalists. Places like Sharm El Sheikh, youll see a lot of sympathy for the Islamic State. As paul was saying, even in the airport, airport workers. This is a real war going on in egypt and thats the reason there are all these cautions from washington and london. Dont go there. Dont fly over there. And now dont even fly out of there because this battle is very much ongoing. And right now the egyptians may be winning, the egyptian military, but were going to wait to see how this all gls with, whether they can suppress this movement or not. You touched on it earlier, paul, but how does russia respond . If isis have been able to plant a bomb on this russian jet, passengers were russian, what is the impact . If russia comes to the conclusion that isis was, indeed, in some way behind this, all bets may be off in terms of their response, both in syria and iraq potentially against isis but also in the Sinai Peninsula itself. Its not impossible that russia itself could launch air strikes against the isis affiliate in the sinai affiliate. You think that plays into isiss hands. It may because there will be more anger about russians targeting muslims on the ground, potentially, Collateral Damage to civilians being killed. As bob was saying, this is a very powerful insurgency. This group is believed to have more than 500 fighters over the last couple years. They killed more than 700 Egyptian Security forces. They killed an american, an oil worker in 2014. They beheaded a croatian, who was in cairo, who was adopted just recently. This is a very powerful isis affiliate in sinai. Is this a new capability or just a new logistical capability . I have a theory on this. A lot of these sophisticated airplane bombs are technology is old. It goes back to the 70s, but the technology was being held by damascus in baghdad with the breakup of those two states. A lot of this technology, presumably, has gone to people like the Islamic State. Now, we obviously dont know, as paul was saying, whether someone put this on or came through the luggage check or not. But this technology is out there and in the last couple of days, ive been asking people, the experts on this, and they keep on saying, this stuff can get through European Security checks, these sophisticated bombs, and american. And i said, what percentage . They said, 65 . I said this on tv the other day and i got a text from a senior official in the administration saying, right on. And so i think thats the estimate in washington as well. Thats unsettling. Thats reason for concern right there. Great to see you guys. Thanks so much. Coming up for us, donald trump for the first time launching ads in iowa and New Hampshire. What hes promising and who hes attacking now. Thats up next. Father versus son, president versus president. The elder george bush like you have never heard him before. 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Today he went after trump. Watch the difference. Thats donald being donald. Whenever theres a bad poll he gets weird and does these sorts of things. He doesnt know what hes talking about. I find it ironic the only person rubbing for president thats declared bankruptcy four times in the last 25 years is attacking anyone on finances. Reporter but both times senator rubio did go on to explain whats at issue here, which is the fact that he had a party credit card, charge card, back in florida when he was in the state house, which he did use for personal expenses. And he explains it was not a bad thing because he paid it his personal expenses straight to the credit card company. You know what, this is playing into a narrative trump and other opponents have been trying to hit rubio on which is whether its this or the fact that he was part of a foreclosure on a house he had in tallahassee or the fact that he doesnt have a lot of money personally and had personal debt, all wrapped into a narrative that shows hes not ready to handle the economy and finances of this country. So, thats the reason why hes pushing back pretty hard on this. Hes getting pushed pretty hard on it and will, i think, in the coming days. Dana bash in concord, New Hampshire. Want to bring former Communications Director for senator ted cruz, who is a republican, in case you didnt know. I missed the memo on purple. What the its purple day dana, too. Those have been asking for months, why isnt donald trump advertising . When will he put a little money into this campaign . Well, were getting the first taste of it today. He has a couple radio spots. People know are cheaper than division. Its 300,000 buy as opposed to putting 10 million in tv ads in a few states. Still, whats the significance of him going on the air . I think this is a smart move by donald trump. Jeb bush has been pouring 10 million into tv ads and his poll numbers are going down, not up. Talk radio is a powerful medium for conservatives, particularly republican primary voters. And i think donald trump is putting money there, ted cruz is also putting money into radio before tv. I think thats where the smart money is and it moves the needle for gop voters. This ad is full of buzz words. Repeal and replace obamacare. We have no idea what his position is. Beef up the military. Im all for that. If this is an invitation for donald trump to talk about the issues and his plans, i think thats a good thing. But to this point, his supporters havent needed much more detail than those buzz words. They accept the trust me tag line. To danas reporting, trump is hitting rubio over the past 24, 48 hours on his personal finances, his use of this gop credit card. Rubio says it is much ado about nothing. But have asked this about Hillary Clinton and her emails. Do you think this issue for rubio, like hillary and her emails, will resonate with voters . Is this something thats going to stick with folks . I think rubios issue goes to his broader problem. It sort of fits into this, is he experienced enough to manage the presidency, manage the economy. Its a smart way to go after him. He has never been very clear on why hes had so many personal financial problems. Its not just about sort of the scandal and the improper use of the credit cards. Its, you know, his personal bankruptcy and things like that. Hes right to hit donald trump back, but eventually hes going to have to answer this stuff for himself. And i think rubios got to get a ahead of this. What do you think about his answer, some of his personal finance issues. Hes like, im not a rich guy. Thats his answer. People can relate to that. People struggle with money. Particularly when hes answering donald trump. He never got a Million Dollar loan from his dad. One point thats important to raise when we talk about these Financial Issues there was a state ethics investigation into it and they cleared him. They said there was some negligence, but he has been cleared. This came from charlie crist. He won a tough race in florida by it didnt stick to him. So, i dont think theyre too worried about it. I like his response. Like donald trump is down in the polls, hes going to come at me. But you think his team has done pretty good ground in making it a relatable issue to people about finances. Its a really strong move. But the larger question for him, though, isnt about the primary. Its really about what he says Going Forward and how he responds to democratic charges about this. He got cleared meaning he didnt get, you know, indicted or anything in florida, but that doesnt mean that, you know, being negligent about your finances i will say hang on, guys. I want to turn a corner here because well hear a lot more about this in the coming days and weeks. Rubios own people say hell release more paper. I want to take a look at the latest fox news poll that came out late yesterday which shows donald trump on top 26 to 23. Whats interesting about this to me, donald trump for all the talk about ben carson taking over, donald trump dropping, he hasnt dropped at all. I mean, you know, this poll has him going up. So he stayed remarkably consistent for months and months now. Does that mean at this point, amanda, he has a solid base of support . I think everyone should be worried about the fact that consistently in the polls over the past few months f you look at donald trump and carson put together, its over 50 . You see other people potentially being dropped off the debate stage like Chris Christie or bobby jindal. Donald trump and ben carson organically have it. Other candidates are working to cultivate it like cruz or rubio. Guys that dont have it, dont understand it like a jeb bush. Theyre not going to be able to break through to the, you know, trump carson stranglehold they have over primary voters at this moment. You remember to remind all our viewers, you remember this moment from cnns democratic debate with Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton. Listen to this. The American People are sick and tired of hearing about your damn emails thank you. Me, too me, too. Thank you, bernie thank you. So Bernie Sanders gives an interview to the wall street journal and he says even though hes sick of talking about the emails, it doesnt mean he doesnt think its an important issue. So, why is he taking that turn now . If he wants to make that point and make that distinction with Hillary Clinton, why not during the debate . I think a little debaters remorse set in. Just on polling in general, and sanders is going through this with clinton, right now for momentum in the primary National Polls dont mean that much. What means more is how youre doing in iowa, how youre doing in New Hampshire, how youre doing until South Carolina and nevada. And Hillary Clinton has overtaken Bernie Sanders in iowa and even in New Hampshire, which was his stronger home turf. So, sanders, i think, is trying to scramble back, look at issues to hit at Hillary Clintons negatives. Its National Phase of the campaign. Theres three months left to go right now before the first iowa caucuses. Hes got to regain some momentum. Hitting hillarys negatives are really his only shot because iowa voters like Hillary Clinton. New hampshire democrats like Hillary Clinton. Hes got to find a way to sort of push back on that. Debaters are more something Sigmund Freud wrote about a great deal. Thanks so much for being with us. Amanda, your former boss, ted cruz is going to be on today with jake tapper at 4 00 p. M. Eastern only on cnn. Coming up for us more fallout this morning from an Illinois Police officers, quote, carefully staged suicide. Now people who donated money to his family, they say they want it back. Ahead, what led to the downfall of a Police Officer who investigators say was laundering money from a Police Program for young adults. And senator and president ial candidate Lindsey Graham joins us live. Yes, hes running for president. But he is also a key member of the arm services committee. Well ask him about this plane that crashed in the Sinai Peninsula and new information its possible, some Officials Say likely, that isis took this plane out. Oh no. under his breath hey man hey peter. unenthusiastic oh. Ha ha ha joanne . Is that you . Its me. You dont look a day over 70. Am i right . 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They say he had been stealing for a Police Program mentoring young kids and had been doing it for seven years. Its strange to talk about a suicide being a scam, but thats whats alleged here. Thats right. It wasnt good enough he was stealing from the Explorers Program, but staging the suicide he was trying to have the government make sure his wife received his pension and whatever death benefits he was eligible to receive. Now, we a civilian organization, kate, the one you mentioned, they now also want money back they gave to the family. 15,000. They gave that money thinking Joe Gliniewicz was killed in the line of duty. Because it was a suicide, they say that money belongs to them and they want it returned. Now, you think about the Explorers Program and we went on the website. Theres a woman on the advisory board. She is mrs. Gliniewicz. Her name falls right under that of lieutenant Joe Gliniewicz. So, whether she was part of the explorer program, we got a lot of calls out there and were trying to get that officially confirmed. What we do know is the emails really show that Joe Gliniewiczs plan began to unravel even as early as march of this year. And theres a village administrator doing internal audits and he is trying to get his program protected under a 53c, which is sort of a taxexempt program, so he doesnt have access to the checkbooks. In one of the texts he says, the chief wont sign off to move it to the american legion. And if she gets hold of that checking account, im pretty well finished. Well use that word. So, he really, it seems now as investigators continue to delve into who else was involved, he does make reference to this plot, this plan, essentially, to make this organization taxexempt. He says, i want to keep it to a small group. Its only you, my wife and the chief who knows about it. And one interesting note. The chief was put on paid administrative leave and took retirement shortly thereafter. This all happened leading up to the suicide of Joe Gliniewicz. The investigator says, there are two other people theyre looking into. Thanks so much. Thanks, deb. Coming up for us, president ial candidate and senator, Lindsey Graham joining us live. Who does he believe brought down that russian jet . Stories of a violent past. There was a stab, a fight, a baseball bat beating. Just some of the stories told by president ial candidate ben carson. Things he says he did when he was a kid. What are people who grew up with him, what do they remember about all these incidents . People who talked to us . Not really anything. If you struggle youre certainly not alone. Fortunately, many have found a different kind of medicine that lowers blood sugar. Imagine what it would be like to love your numbers. Discover oncedaily invokana®. 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Joining us now, senator Lindsey Graham, member of the Arms Services committee joins us live from manchester, New Hampshire. Good morning, senator. Thank you for having me. Good morning. Morning. So, you are on the Senate Armed Services committee. Youre connected. You know that region very well. Based on what youve heard and based on what youre seeing right now, what do you think happened . Well, i really i dont want to speculate. I do know this, if it wasnt isil, it doesnt mean they dont want to do this. They would do this and more. First thing we have to realize, if they had nothing to do with this bombing, they still want to kill us all. I mean, they want to kill every christian, they want to purify their faith by killing every muslim that disagrees with them, destroy israel and attack us here at home. So, i dont know if they have the capability to get a bomb on board an airplane in egypt. If they do, thats a great move forward for isil. All i need to say is they need to be de graded and destroyed and our plan to do so is not working. Senator, i know you have concerns about the region, the fight against isis in the region. How concerned are you about the situation in sinai specifically and egypts ability to clamp down on this or control this . Well, radical islam is just running wild throughout the region. Sinai is another hot spot. The terrorist organizations in sinai, aligned with al qaeda, now pledged loyalty to isil. You see that going on in afghanistan and africa. So, yes, a big its a big concern. What would really be a big concern if they have the ability to communicate, share intelligence, and plan operations outside of syria and iraq. That would be a ginlt move forward for isil. Yeah, egypts got its hands full in the sinai. But the whole region is on fire right now. The source of this problem is syria. Isils headquarters in syria. Until you deal with isil in syria, youre never going to stop this. You have had some kind words for the egyptian leader el sisi over time. He is calling the battle the right way, that islam needs to be reformed. In this case, in this instance, he has been slow to come to any conclusions about what happened in sinai and very critical of the british move to suspend flights to Sharm El Sheikh. Do you think he is being this is the right path for him . Do you think hes being honest and forth right in this case . I just dont want to jump ahead of my government. I want to see what my government says. The egyptian president is moving down one path thats helpful, another path thats not. Hes putting people in jail who disagrees with him. Hes really inhibited freedom of the press. Its a mixed bag in egypt. Hes been a tough ruler but at the same time, hes kind of undercutting instruments of democracy but we need to help el sisi because he does have an attitude about radical islam that i think is overall helpful. But i dont want to say what happened here until i know. And i dont want to speak ahead of my government. I dont think the british would say this unless they really believed it. So, the british britain, they are halting flights to and from Sharm El Sheikh right now. Is that a good idea, do you think . Yeah. Out of an abundance of cautious i wouldnt send anybody in there if i had any doubts. They fired the security chief at the airport. Maybe thats because of something unrelated to this instance. All i can tell you and your viewers, its a matter of time before isil does this or worse. If its not them now, it will be them later. The idea of destroying them is the right idea. The strategy president obama has is not working. Ive got a plan to destroy these guys. It would be a regional approach with a big army to go in there on the ground and pull the caliphate up by its roots. Its just a matter of time they hit us here at home. And this is something you have discussed in the president ial debates. There is another debate next tuesday night. There is some news out, this new fox news poll that came out shows donald trump on top. Theres an Interesting Development here up. May get a new member in the first debate club, in the first debate of the night. It looks like Chris Christie may not qualify for the later debate, so, you know, what do you make of the new addition to the Lindsey Graham debate . Hes a great guy. Theyre probably getting tired of seeing me and im getting tired of seeing the other flthr, the bottom line, i think National Polling is being abused here. The difference between fourth place and last is within the margin of error. Its not a good indication of how strong a candidate you are. I dont trust pollsters. I trust the people. Let people start voting. Then well weed out the field. If chris comes down, well have a good, healthy discussion. Hes a great guy. We got good candidates. And i think im the guy with the plan that will destroy isil. Ive been talking about this for two years. Youre going to need boots on the ground, more in iraq. You need a Regional Force in syria. Well have to be part of that force if were serious about stopping isil. They are coming here if we dont hit them there. So, senator, real quick, any advice to Chris Christie if he moves into your debate . Yeah, have a sense of humor. Take it all in stride. But one last thing about our national security, the tsa has had some congress has some responsibility here. These budget cuts are hurting the fbi and department of Homeland Security defend america. Weve got a perfect storm of reduced capability, reduced spending at a time of great threat. Hope america understands these budget cuts need to be replaced. Senator Lindsey Graham up in New Hampshire, thank you so much for being with us. Thanks, senator. Thank you. Well talk more about politics coming up. Ben carson in discussing his past, he says there was a violent past. He said he was involved in knife fights, even an attack on his own mother. Cnn has gone and investigated these clarnlgsz trying to find people to talk about these stories, his background. Hear what they said coming up. This morning, who is or who was the real ben carson . Its a key piece of ben carsons story, that he has discussed many, many times over the years. The calm quiet we see today only came after a tumultuous and troubled past. His books and speeches are filled with references of having a pathological temper. Listen. I picked up a large rock, hurled it at his face, broke his glasses. I would go after people with rocks and bricks and baseball and hammers. Fortunately under his clothing, he had on a large metal belt buckle. The knife blade struck with such force that it broke. Now, this is important, because ben carson is running, in part, on this biography, his story, a redemption from a violent past. We went to his hometown of detroit to look into this narrative. What did you find . My colleague scott glover and i actually set out to find the victims of these attacks that dr. Carson has described, just as sort of part of the normal vetting process you would do for any president ial candidate. We wanted to know if those temper issues did actually end at that moment. What we found, talking to neighborhood friends, talking to people, was we couldnt find anybody who recalled these incidents ever happening. Now, remember, were talking about carson beating people with bricks and bats. So you would assume that these kinds of incidents would have gotten around. But we are still looking for the people that hes identified as having attacked. He only uses first names. Jerry, a kid he hit over the head with a lock. And bob, who was in the stabbing incident. But the neighbors we talked to said that person who would do those things was unrecognizable to them. I think we have some sound from them to listen to. I was shocked. I was surprised. Because he was, you know, quiet and kind. I was really surprised when i read he tried to stab someone. Like, what . Does it fit with a guy you knew, that kind of activity . No. I said, you hid it from us all those years. And he said he was just too embarrassed to even talk about it. I was surprised at some of the things he said. But, you know, he said that, honestly, and i believed everything he told me. So its really important to remember here that, you know, the ten people we talked to on the record, a lot of them were skeptical. They couldnt recall any of these incidents. But nobody challenged his stories directly or said they thought he was a liar. They just found it very curious that they had never heard about these incidents at the time that they happened. So, really, it just raises a lot questions about that piece of his life, and the way hes telling the stories on the campaign trail as he connects with evangelical voters. Maybe someone will come forward right, were looking for them. Again, its ironic in a way that theres a story involved with people not remembering what a bad guy or violent guy a president ial candidate was. Usually you would think you want to cover up the opposite here. But it matters because its part of his narnarrative, right . Absolutely. The evangelical voters have powered his surge to the top of the field. Whats so important is god intervened, he says, at age 14, right after the stabbing incident. He prayed in the bathroom for three hours. He says that after that moment, he never had a violent outburst again. So thats what were trying to confirm and figure out as we think about someone who wants to be president in the oval office, you know, at the nuclear controls. Maeve reston, thank you. 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Pretty scathing criticism from one president to another, from a father to a son. Lets bring in peter baker. The author of a wonderful book days of fire, bush and cheney in the white house. Peter, much of the subject matter in this book, you actually write about in your book. Whats different here is you have direct quotes from a former president , just lashing out at members of his sons administration. Naming names here. Why now do you think . Why this significance . We, its very interesting, right . Of course george h. W. Bush is 91. Hes sort of decided that this is, you know, the record for history. He was going to talk to his biography jon meacham in a very candid way, and he decided he wasntoing to hold back anymore. He says it in a way thats meant to be supportive of his son. He says it in a sense that he thinks his son was ill served by Vice President cheney and secretary rumsfeld. He also allows of course no one is more responsible than the president of the United States. In that case, george bush. He talks about george w. Bush but also in the book talks about his other son, join bueb bush. Why would they come out with this now . Jeb bush is in the middle of running. What does he say about jeb in the book . Its an interesting question. Theres not a lot of jeb in the book. A little bit here. In 1992, urged his father to replace dan quayle on the ticket for his reelection. But he also supported dan quayle on some of the things that the Vice President had said. Most notably, his comments about murphy brown, you remember, that sitcom, in which Candice Bergen played a television anchor who has a child out of wedlock. Dan quayle criticized that. Bush said he agreed with that criticism. He also said quayle was a drag on the ticket in 92 and his father should consider replacing him. Its an awkward time for jeb bush to be answering questions because its going to force him once again to confront what does he want to say about his brothers presidency as well as his fathers and we saw how much trouble he had back in the spring, figuring out his position on the iraq war. Theres a lot gossipy in the book. He calls Mary Lynn Quayle a horses ass and a pill. He talks about Barbara Bushs opinion toward nancy reagan here. Its going to be a little buzzy and gossipy. Partly because what jon meacham has done with his book is go through the diaries that both george h. W. Bush and barbara bush kept for many, many years. Were really getting an inside look into what they thought not today but at the time. Thats pretty rare for a president and thats pretty good for history. It helps us put aside some of the hindsight, wisdom, which is obviously so easy. Unvarnished views are rare to get in washington, this country. Going to be a lot to work through. Peter baker, thanks so much. Thanks, peter. Thank you all for joining us at this hour. Legal view with Ashleigh Banfield starts right now. Hello, everyone, im Ashleigh Banfield. Welcome to legal view. The only thing experts or government officials know for sure about the cause of the metro jet disaster is that it is going to be a while before they really know anything for sure. Five days after the russianleased airliner broke apart over the Sinai Peninsula, killing all 224 people on board, a gaping divide has emerged between the United States and britain. On one side. And egypt and russia on the other. The british Prime Minister today declaring it more