Hello, everyone. Im john berman. Kate is off today. Is it possible to back pedal on your back pedaling . Is that backback pedaling . The republican candidate for president is adjusting his adjusted stance on undocumented immigrants. Telling cnn there will be no path to legalization. This, just days after he seemed a little open to the idea. If they havent committed a crime, is there going to be a path to legalization . Im talking about citizenship, legalization. No, there is no path to legalization. You talked about paying back taxes. Unless people leave the country well, when they come back in. So they still have to leech t leave the country. Theres no path unless they leave the country and come back. Different from what he is saying in the last few days. Confused . Its hard to tell where trump stands on the issue of his candidacy. Right now, there seems to be a wall all right, but it is a wall of confusion. Want to bring in cnn chief Political Correspondent dana bash. Whats Donald Trumps immigration policy . You want me to explain it . Look, one of our colleagues said it another way, which is yesterday with be an danderson flopped. We dont know where that back flop is landing except it seems to be where he started at the beginning of his primary run. Policywise, sounding very similar. Which is everybody be who is here illegally has to go. But the, in his words, good ones can come back in. Lets listen to a little more to get a better sense of what hes saying. If somebody hasnt committed a crime, will they be deported . Let me tell you what. We know the bad ones. We know who they are. We know the drug cartel people. We know the gangs and the heads of the gangs and the gang members. Those people are gone. Thats a huge number. But thats jeb bushs policy. I dont know anything about jeb bush. He wasnt building a wall. Jeb bush wasnt building a wall. Jeb bush wasnt making strong borders. Im not knocking jeb bush but i was with him for a long time right, but he was mocked for saying, look, you cant deport 11 million people. I know youre not really focusing sbl first i want to see whats going to happen. Were going to deport many people. Many, many people. So heres what i believe is the best interpretation of this right now. Again, if it turns out to be different in five minutes, dont hold me to it. But its basically that he is coming in to this with his new Campaign Team wanting him to be more appealing to not just minorities but, more importantly, to moderate republicans, independents, even some democrats potentially, by sounding more tol rent. And this is the next phase of doing that. The challenge he has though, john, is doing that while not angering the people who really do want everybody to go. Whether theyre good citizens. Whether theyve got families of 14 who maybe not citizens but good members of society, families of 14 who are doing quite well here. They do want them to be pulled apart. So hes trying to balance between those things. If we take him at his words last night to anderson, he sees no path for legalization. Doesnt want any path for legalization for people to stay here. But he wont commit to the fact those who are here illegally should leave. Thats an interesting position. Well talk more about that. As a political position here what are the people who have been supporting him all along who feel very strongly about immigration . Particularly prominent ones . Now saying about all this . To me, one of the most fascinating things was sarah palin. We havent heard much from here at all. After her big splash endorsing him. But she came out on this issue. She was giving him a warning. I want to read you what she told the wall street journal. If mr. Trump were to go down a path wishywashy positions taken on things that the Core Foundation of his support has so appreciated, and that is respecting our constitution and respecting law and order in america, then, yeah, there would be massive disappointment. So, you know, she, as i said, she has been very quiet. Which has been a mystery in itself. Putting that aside, the fact she designed to come out and say this gives you a sense of the fact that the core supporters for whom immigration is a very big issue. Anything that even remotely looks like youre letting people who are here illegally stay legally is amnesty, a little bit of that territory. That was before, we think, before donald trump told anderson he doesnt think there should be a path to legalization. So it will be interesting to see. Dana, great to have you here, thank you so much. The immigration debate, discussion, internal debate within Donald Trumps own head, is just one side of whats fascinating on the campaign now. Because the candidates Hillary Clinton and donald trump are debating whos the bigot. Donald trump says Hillary Clinton is a bigot. Hillary clinton says trump is making hate Fringe Groups mainstream. From the start, donald trump has built his campaign on prejudice and paranoia. He is taking hate groups mainstream. And helping a radical fringe take over the Republican Party. All right. Want to bring in cnns political director David Chalian right now. This is a really interesting discussion. Weve covered a lot of campaigns. Its not exactly one ive heard right now. Youre a bigot. No, youre a bigot. Whats going on . Its not the most uplifting campaign message. You heard Hillary Clinton with a different tone than we normally hear on the campaign trail. This was not a rallying cry and firing up the troops. She was treeing to take an extremely sober and serious approach to what she believes is another piece of an argument shes prosecuting. That hes unqualified for the job of president. In the past, shes talked a lot about him and will continue to talk about his temperament as one reason hes disqualified to be commander in chief. Now, shes prosecuting the argument that says hes embracing these ideas and speaking this language that really makes him on the fringe outside of the mainstream of american politics. Another piece of this, john, that shes trying to appeal to some moderate republicans in the middle who are totally reluctant to donald trump at this stage of the game. Shes trying to say, you dont have to think about voting for me, but this is not a representative of your Republican Party. She evokes some pretty big names when she was making that point. Listen. 20 years ago, whenbeing accepted the republican nomination, he pointed to the exits in the Convention Hall and told any racists in the party to get out. The week after 9 11, george w. Bush went to a mosque and declared for everyone to hear that muslims love america just as much as i do. In 2008, john mccain told his own supporters that they were wrong about the man he was trying to defeat. Senator mccain made sure they knew barack obama, he said, is an american citizen and a decent person. Now, john, you tell me, when you were thinking through what Hillary Clinton might be doing in the closing 75 days of her president ial campaign as the democratic nominee, did you think she would evoke bob dole and john mccain to bolster her argument . Common line of argument dating back decades no, its very, very unusual, very important to point out how Hillary Clinton is trying to otherize trump now. Well talk more about all this now with our panel. Michael nutt, the former mayor of philadelphia, Hillary Clinton supporter. Cnn political commentator and donald trump supporter kayleigh macann is here. Doug hyde join us. Cnn political commentator and Hillary Clinton supporter maria c cardona is here as well. Kayleigh, my understanding what donald trump told anderson last night is this is his current position on undocumented immigrants. He sees no path to legalization for the 11 million undocumented immigrants here. No path to legalization. However, he wont commit to the fact that they all should go. What hes saying is they have to go back and return if they want any chance of legalization. But he isnt committing to forcing them to leave, correct . Hes committing to removing the criminals. Hes starting there. After that, its a negotiation with congress. Thats how these things work. Its a compromise. So the criminals will go. The noncriminals, hes not committing to the fact that they have to go. Hes saying his starting point is with the criminals. Which is what hes always said. Heres the thing with donald trump. His position is one of security. If we want to talk about flipflop. Lets talk about Hillary Clinton who went last november at a New Hampshire rally, said and praised the fact she voted for a bill to put a barrier on the border. That happened at just november at a New Hampshire rally. 2005, she said, i am adamantly against illegal immigrants. We have to look at Hillary Clinton who at one point was for securing the border but now is for i dont think she backtracked where she supported putting it up. Doug hyde, the point i was making with kayleigh, and youve been part of the immigration battles for a long time. Is it a thing . Can you allow for the undocumented immigrants who are here who havent committed a crime, can they stay without legalization . Whats that . Isnt that just a status quo . I think its a status quo. Probably some form of purgatory as well. One of the things House Republicans tried to aaddress when i was working in the house of representatives. We tried to solicit ideas. What we were told is anything short of a full deportation was amnesty. So by that definition, by Trump Supporters now, is amnesty. What weve also seen, it sounds like donald trump is not just embracing the jeb bush position but also mitt romneys position. He no longer says there should be a path toseemed to su few days. However, he didnt commit to the fact they should leave. Maria, want to give you some credit here. Because you said yesterday on this show, you said you did not think, you did not believe donald trump when he was thinking maybe he thought there should be some legal status. Exactly. He did exactly what i knew he was going to do. I love the way you guys put it. He backtracked on his flipflop. Because this is a man who has not only does he have no idea where he stands on this and he just kind of puts his finger up in the wind to figure out what his supporters want. He read them very well in the republican primaries when he focused on the draconian position of deporting them all and putting up a wall and putting a Deportation Force in order to do it. And he got the majority of his votes during those primaries from people who loved that position. But now i think he is in a pickle. Because he doesnt know how to move forward to try to attract other moderates. Forget the hispanic vote. I think that he knows that is dead in the water for him. And for the reasons that i have spoken in abundance of on this program and others. Theres no trust there. They dont see him as somebody who understands the hispanic vote. Who even cares about what we want. And so this is his opportunity, at least in his mind, to try to get more moderate republicans to not think of him as such a racist and such a bigot. One of the most important pieces of information in all the polls that have come out is more than twothirds of americans overall believe that he holdings racist views and that he holds bigoted views. And thats what hes trying to change. You just dropped the r word and the b word, which is a good segue to the other part of ways going on out there now. Which is that Hillary Clinton may or may not have given a speech where she accused donald trump of associating with racists. This is unusual, mayor, in a campaign season. Why are we seeing this . Well, i mean, i said earlier, it really goes back to as secretary clinton laid out yesterday in very measured remarks that were president ial in stature. She laid out the case for how this got started. It started with the ban on muslims. Started with insulting the mexican community. Started with insubtling the physically disabled individuals. It starts the concept of donald trump is to insult as many people as possible, say anything you want and create an environment of fostering this hate. The secretary didnt acuse him of associating with these people. Its a fact he associates with them or encourages their support. Does not denounce people like david duke and others. Bring s on bannon. These are facts. He cant escape these things we have a lot of facts on our end, mayor nutter. Kayleigh, let me finish youre talking about associate, well, why did clinton go to his wedding if he was such a bad guy. Answer that question. You have to talk to him about that. I dont control his schedule and who goes to what weddings. Im talking about her schedule, she went to his wedding what im saying kayleigh, cut it out. What im saying here is he has created an environment where all of this hate and controversy gets created, hes tangled himself up in it. And he has no pathway out. The reason you cant understand his immigration position is because he doesnt know what his immigration position is from time to time until he gets advice from someone else. Can i just quickly say, im befuddled at you telling Trump Supporters to cut it out. Your candidate put up an ad comparing him and allying him with the kkk when we can do the same thing to you. We can talk about robert byrd, a kkk grand draggen who Hillary Clinton embraced you mean later a great civil rights champion we can talk about bill clinton leaving the confederate star on the arkansas flag. We can talk about bill clinton going to an allwhite golf course. We can talk about all those facts. But you guys do not want to talk about them love talking about facts doug, i was talking unusual day. Its an Unusual Campaign where the augurgument is who ise bigger bigot. Since Hillary Clinton gave this speech that ive heard paul ryan stand up and say, you know, no, Donald Trumps not a bigot. I havent heard many Senior Republicans defend donald trump from what was a pretty scathing speech. Why . I think what youve seen, and cnn reported on this earlier, you look at a lot of the senate races and house races. Theyre fighting for themselveses right now. Donald trump is a massive distraction that every republican candidate has to deal with. I can tell you, john, my First Campaign was for jesse helms. I worked for michael steele. Thats a lot of diverse cast of characters. Theres been one consistent thread. This is something donald trump said was true. The call of racism is a cornerstone of the democratic playbook. Ive seen peoples race used against them. Whether theyre jewish republicans or africanamerican republicans. The challenge is for a lot of republicans the rhetoric that donald trump has used over the past year, the comments on muslim s, on the khan family and on and on. Its why i came out against donald trump in january and so many other republicans are hesitant to not only defend him but even vote for him. All right, doug, mayor nutter Africanamerican Community and those remarks a lot more to discuss coming up. Were going to talk about Donald Trumps immigration position, if parts of it sound familiar, its because you heard similar proposals from people, like, say, that guy, jeb bush who lost. So what does jeb bush have to say about all this . Thats coming up. Plus, a federal judge settings a deadline for the state department to start releasing Hillary Clintons private server emails uncovered by the fbi. We have details ahead. Plus, a sitting governor leaves quite a voice mail for a rival lawmaker. This one is a doozy. I would like to talk to you about your comments about my being a racist, you [ bleep ], and i want to talk to you. You want, i want you to prove im a racist. 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Sounds like a typical politician, by the way, where you get in front of one crowd and say one thing. All the things donald trump railed against he seemed to be morphing into, kind of disturbing. All right, joining me now is the treasury, was the treasury and council for the projeb bush right to rise superpac. Obviously a big jeb bush supporter. Charlie, thanks for being with us. Based on what we heard last night, based on what donald trump told anderson cooper, he now no longer sees any path to legalization for undocumented immigrants who stay in this country. But do you think you have clarity on what trp truumps immigration position is . The reason i supported jeb bush is because he had studied issues and took cohairant positions on them and stuck with them, even if they werent popular when demagogued in a primary. I have no idea where the hell donald trump is on immigration. 48 hours ago, it looked like he had read jeb bushs book, immigration wars, which talked about securing the border, rounding up illegal people who had been committed crimes in the country. National security being a priority. But then a path to legalization. Not a citizenship. But legalization for the other, you know, of the 11 million, those who have not committed crimes while in the country. Thats what donald trump said 48 hours ago. Now it sounds like his key supporter ann coulter threw a fit because she wrote a book on the position based on what he said in the primary and now hes done a what youre calling a back flip on his flipflop or something. Hard to figure out. Ive heard some argue immigrations not the number one or two issue for most voters out there so maybe were focusing too much on this shift or this inability to stick with would be position from donald trump. Does it matter for a candidate to have a firm set in stone position on an issue like immigration . Well, theres two key issues that donald trump if you looked at focus groups, that he did the best in the primary on. The first is he said that he was going to selffinance his campaign and because of that he couldnt be bought off by special interests. And then the second thing was that he was going to have a Deportation Force. And have no am naecnesty for il immigrants. He he has flipflopped on both of those issues. On the first one, hes not selffinancing. Hes asking for 400,000 checks from major donors. And only put about 50 million into his campaign. Which is the same amount mitt romney put in, in 2008. On immigration, i applaud the fact he seems to be studying the issues and maybe learning that his demagoguery about a Deportation Force is impossible to do. Its bad policy. And bad politics. But if im a supporter of his, i would be furious that hes now done a 180 it looks like. There was a lot of discussion, there has been, over the last 24 hours about bigotry. Hillary clinton gave a scathing speech about donald trump and ties to organizations she considers racist. Also a record she considers suspect at best. Do you think that her speech yesterday was fair and why havent i heard the likes of paul ryan, some establishment republican, stand up and defend donald trump over the last day . Hes made it very hard to defend himself. Look, he needs to repudiate his antisemitic and racist and frankly i would say antiamerican neonazi supporters. I dont think he necessarily shares all their beliefs, but hes done something to inspire their support. And he needs to clearly repudiate them. Its not the rest of the republicans job to defend him. Its his job to do that and make it easy. 30 of republicans dont support him right now. Hes got to bring us on board. And thats his job to do. Just to be cleear, he said last night to a New Hampshire station he doesnt want racists to vote for him so at least a form of repudiation here. You have not committed to voting for him yet. Is it better than 50 50 chance you think youll vote for donald trump . Look, we have two bad options. I think if he wasnt making this whole policy mishmash, wed be talking about Hillary Clinton scandals with the Clinton Foundation. I dont like either of my options. But i hope that for the same of the down ballot tickets, i think its critical the republicans keep the senate and we cant have trump get crushed if were going to keep the senate, so he has to straighten out his campaign and do a better job of articulating commonsense policies. Great to have you here with us, really appreciate it. Thank you. All right, donald trump is now invoking Bernie Sanders in his ongoing effort to paint Hillary Clinton as a bigot. The Trump Campaign even used sanders own word in a new video. 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Joining me now is the former Campaign Manager for Bernie Sanders, now head of the Political Group our revolution. Long time, no see. Great to have you here with us. Nice to be here, john, how are you . Im doing great. You just heard donald trump, his new video on instagram, which uses Bernie Sanders own words, saying Hillary Clinton used racist terminology. Your reaction to seeing that now . Clearly everybody i think including the secretary believes that the use of the term super p predators in the 90s was inappropriate, a term that should never be used and it is very regrettable she did that. Lets look at what we have here. We have an election coming up between secretary clinton and donald trump. Donald trump has engaged in the most outrageous race and religious baiting in this race. The question is for people out there in the world, who is going to make your life better who is going to make your childrens life better, who is going to create the jobs that pay the wages you need thats going to help get your kids to college . And on that basis i think, look, its hands down, theres no real choice. What is our revolution, which is the new Bernie Sanders political operation which youre running, what is that going to do about this . What are you going to do in the president ial Campaign Going forward to help . Our revolution actually is not a Bernie Sanders organization. Its certainly inspired by the message he laid out in the Political Campaign we just had this past year. But it is an independent group with an independent board. We have a very diverse board which is going to be announced next week. Were very excited about that. We want to carry on the vision laid out by Bernie Sanders in the president ial campaign. 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Do i have a problem when a sitting secretary of state and a Foundation Run by her husband collects many millions of dollars from foreign governments, governments which are dictatorships, you dont have a lot of Civil Liberties or democratic rights in saudi arabia. You dont have a lot of respect there for opposition points of view, for gay rights, for womens rights. Yeah, do i have a problem with that, yeah, i do. A lot of questions now saying there are blurry lines between the state department and the Clinton Foundation. Senator sanders had some issues with during the primary. Do you still think these are legitimate questions . I share the senators views on this. As said, the question now becomes, i mean, measure no longer in the primary environment. You have two choices for president of the United States. You have Hillary Clinton and you have donald trump. You know, you played this clip obviously and the senator raised valid questions about the foundation. 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Tresiba® ready federal judge has set september 13th as a deadline for the state department to begin delivering emay mails uncovere the fbi. The order is limited to documents concerning the benghazi attacks. But this morning, clinton said when it companiy comes to the ed the Clinton Foundation, she is confident no further revelations will damage her president ial hopes. I have a very Strong Foundation of understanding about the foundation. Not to have a play on words. That the kind of work that the foundation has done which attracted donors from around the world is work that went right into providing services to people as we have said before, you know, neither my husband, my daughter nor i have ever taken a penny all right, she went on to say i am sure that the email issues wont be an issue. Joining me, ron brownstein, senior political analyst and Senior Editor at the atlantic. Lonnie chen. Michael nutter, former mayor, Hillary Clinton supporter. And our guest, cochair of women vote trump, a super pac. Clinton says im sure no further revelations will damage me or my campaign. Im not sure shes the one who gets to decide this, is she . Shes not saying she is going to decide. She was asked a question and she gave a direct response. I think more than likely no one probably knows more about her emails or what she may have written or what people did or didnt do then she would about herself. She wasnt trying to decide. She was asked a question. She answered the question very directly. Thats what you would expect from secretary Hillary Clinton. Lonnie, i was listening to Republican Party officials say, and part of it was spin. They were saying the last two weeks have been great weeks for donald trump. Because they think what happened with the emails and the Clinton Foundation issues, that that was good for them. I want to ask you, im not sure you have a dog in the fight necessarily. Is that true . Because as we sit here on friday, theres a lot of talk about what Donald Trumps immigration position is. Theres a lot of talk about whos the bigot. If the discussion is about bigotry and immigration, is donald trump winning that discussion . Yeah, john, look, i think thats exactly right. It was a low bar for donald trump to stay on message. I think overall hes done okay in that regard. I think the problem is there are two big de fishdeficiencies tha Hillary Clinton has. One is her untrustworthiness and the other is the softening of the economy. Instead of being focused on the anemic gdp Growth Numbers or the fact the Clinton Foundation looks awfully suspicious, were talking about bigotry and changing immigration positions. That framework is right. I think donald trump needs to not just stay on message but stay on message consistency, and thats been the challenge to date. Ron brownstein, czar of demographics, the discussions about immigration and bigotry, thats the what, but wheres the why, and whos the who here, why are they saying this and who are the targeted voters . The who for donald trump are these College Educated white voters where he is underperforming any republican nominee ever, right. I mean, no republican nominee in the history of polling in 1952 has lost among College Educated whites and trump is running even among them and among most polls is trailing. The quinnipiac poll which came out yesterday, i mean, trump is facing a significant consolidation of what i call the coalition the ascendant. The core groups in the democratic coalition. All of which will be a bigger share of the electorate in 2016 than in 2012. Millennials where he has over 70 saying hes not qualified and saying they view him as appealing to bigotry. Those College Educated white women in particular. Over 60 of each of them say he is not qualified and he is appealing to bigotry. Hes already moving back some of the College White men who are the least stable part of the Hillary Clinton coalition in this quinnipiac poll but those other groups remain locked against him with impressions that have built up over 15 months and its a big challenge to undo those impressions. She warned donald trump about being wishywashy when it companiy comes to his immigration position. How would you characterize his movement, at least in his words, about immigration . I think hes going out there and talking and listening to the American People. With dont have an actual policy yet. A written policy set in stone that he has put out there. We know hes going to secure the border. We know hes going to deport the 86,000 criminal illegal aliens that i. C. E. Released and didnt deport them. And we know he put hes going to put americans first. Other than that, we dont know. And everybodys speculating here. Im not even sure that everybody is going off the same definition of amnesty. Some people think amnesty amy, does donald trump know . Im not part of the campaign. Dont communicate with the campaign because im a superpac and im not allowed to. I dont know what the conversations are. I do think we should wait and let him put his policy out. I know he has Jeff Sessions and sheriff joe, theyre on board with him. You havent seen them back paiway. I think hes reaching out to people in the community. He is a passionate and comparing person and i think thats what we expect of our leaders. Great to have you with us, thanks, guys. Thank you. All right, a u. S. Governor, a sitting u. S. Governor, left a voice mail you may not believe, for a political rival. The sound and the man behind the message coming up. Before taking his team to state for the first time. Gilman go get it, marcus. Go get it. 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He was asked about this, again, in a town hall earlier this week and he said he was right. 90 is his words. 90 of those he sees arrested is black and hispanics. That is drawing rebukes saying these are racially charged comments that are unnecessary. One of those people was the lawmaker who paul called and left a voicemail for. He was left by political reporters. This was his response. He wasnt apologizing for it. He challenged him to a duel. We would have a duel. Thats how angry i am. I would not put my gun in the air. I would point it right between his eyes. Paul lepage is not backing down at all. His office just released a statement trying to clarify a little bit. At the core, paul lepage is upset that he was called a racist. When he said he would stop and go after in that email or in that voicemail. What he means he would try to defeat every single thing he does politically Going Forward and legislatively Going Forward from that point out. The man who said i was donald trump before donald trump. These are certainly explosive issues. Explosive comments but for paul lepage, not necessarily out of the ordinary, if you have been following his career. Are they legally in maine . I would have to check the state laws. It is not the 19th century any more. Ill double check and report back. All right, Phil Mattingly, thank you for being with us. We appreciate it. Well be right back. If your sneezes are a force to be reckoned with. You may be muddling through allergies. Try zyrtec® for powerful allergy relief. And zyrtec® is different than claritin®. Because it starts working faster on the first day you take it. Try zyrtec®. Muddle no more®. Just when you think you know what a computer is. You see a keyboard that can just, get out of the way. And a screen you can touch. And even write on. When you see a computer that can do all that, it might just make you wonder. Hey, what else can it do . 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We are going to build a real wall. A wall that absolutely