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Im john berman. And im michaela pereira. Good to see you on this wednesday. Right now, we have gotten another weather advisory on Tropical Storm arthur. It is expected to become a category one hurricane tomorrow off the coast of North Carolina. If you were planning to travel over the fourth of july weekend, to the east coast or along the east coast, you need to Pay Attention to this. Arthur could make conditions very, very dangerous. Chad myers at the cnn weather center. As we head, a new advisory in just seconds ago. What does it say . It still has the storm very close to the carolina coast, to North Carolina, almost the peninsula that sticks out there. Cape hatteras all the way down to buxton. That is during the day on friday. Over night on thursday into the day on friday. Were going to see deteriorating conditions all up and down the east coast. This is not going to be an andrew or a huge category 5 hurricane. Its not warm enough for that yet. This is going to be a long strong wind. All the way from jacksonville, into myrtle beach and into North Carolina itself. As it moves farther to the north, this storm will continue and even put some wave action into probably new england and into maine and boston as it continues to move up. This is a shot from space. Pretty cool picture there from Tropical Storm arthur. Cool unless you are underneath it and this would be the peninsula right there. These outer bands getting to the florida coast right now. It gets bigger tonight, turns into a hurricane tonight and tomorrow. Thats when it gets to the 85mileperhour Hurricane Force as it gets very close to North Carolina. You said rip tides. You talked about currents, winds. Give us an idea about the biggest concern with this storm. It is without a doubt in my mind its when the water gets pushed up into these koefs. What you have along here, youll have the sand bars and they are only out maybe 100 yards, but the water washes over the sand bars. All of a sudden, one of those sand bars breaks and when the sandbar breaks in one spot, all of that water wants to rush back out to the sea and it does it at 35 to 40 miles per hour. If you are in the water, you need to have a life jacket on or stay out of the water at this point. Its going to get that dangerous. We could lose a dozen people because they werent listening to those types of warnings. These are sand bars, dangerous places and rip currents happen all the time, and people have a cocktail or two, they want to go out in the water to cool off and all of a sudden you are 100 yards out and the lifeguard cant get you. We are talking about landfall for this hurricane. It may only be a category one which isnt that strong but you are talking about landfall sometime wednesday into thursday, thursday into friday off the coast of North Carolina. Correct. The middle of the cone. I always hate to talk about the middle of the cone because it never follows it. The middle of the cone does take it off shore about 20 miles away from that Cape Hatteras light house. The middle of the eye is not the part were worried about. Its the outer part of that eye that could make landfall and as it moves on through here right through nags head, heres charleston. If it doesnt make landfall, its close within 10 to 15 miles within the beach. You get all of the water thats going to be splashing up here, here, here, here, all the way up the coast. Thats where all those rip currents are going to be. Theres going to be some rain through here. This is not the biggest storm were going to see. This is just a precursor of what it could be. Other news happening this hour, clashes between forces in israel and palestine. A cnn crew was caught up in the violence. Things have are very tense here at the moment. In fact im going to spin the camera around very briefly here. Oh, excuse me. Theres a lot of police trying to disperse us here. It seams like they let off a stun grenade here. Israel police are trying to disperse residents here. Police are looking into retaliation in the killing of three israeli teenagers. The attacker leader in benghazi has a hearing in washington. Saturday he pleaded not guilty to one count of providing Material Support to terrorists. Hes charged in the attack that left four americans dead. Just days after an evacuation slide inflated inside a United Airlines flight. Theres a water leak on a qantas plane. On board was american actress from Yvette Nicole brown. Its so good to know you all are okay. We saw your tweets, river running through the aisle. Tell us what happened. First of all for having me on. We were just maybe an hour into the flight and all of a sudden it looked like a trickle at first. I thought someone had spilled a soda or pop or something, it got pigger and it literally was like a river running down the aisles of the plane. It was the scariest thing ive ever seen. A leak in an airplane with water flooding and stuff is not something you normally think as a problem during flight. How did you handle it . It seems like a water to me. Its water and electricity. I kept thinking were over in the pacific and im in something thats full of electricity and theres water the other thing it was a double decker plane, i was wondering where the water was going, it flowed by us, theres people below us. Sure enough, it became like a down pour for them, so i want to say this about qantas, they could not have been nicer to us. They were great. My tweet kind of seemed like everything was going crazy. It wasnt. They were in control the whole situation. These things happen very quickly and they are on board the plane too. The flight crew, et cetera. Tell us how they handled the situation. It looked like some clever people put to use some of the supplies you had on board the plane. What did they do to try to keep that water from getting any further down the aisle . The biggest problem was stopping the pipe burst. The passenger in front of me got a video of the pipe burst as bad as it was, im surprised it wasnt more mayhem in the back. The flight attendants were so professional, you never would have known anything had gone crazy, crazy wrong. I cant even put it to words. Im not a great flyer to begin with, so for me, i you always watch the flight attendants if they are freaking out, you freak out too. They never freaked out. They were honest about what was happening. They told us what could happen. But for the comfort of the other passengers, it was like, when we found out later that they basically got rained on and sitting in wet seats, no one wants that. 15hour flight and you are soaked. Its a small inconvenience for us up top, the ones downstairs were really catching it. It was the right decision to make. Im glad they did turn back. Are you heading now again . Are you going to try to this again head to melbourne . Im hoping to try again. Im just such a wimpy flyer. There are so many fans that are waiting for us to get there, if i dont try again, im really not a good person. Pack your flippers this time. Youll be fine. You know that, Yvette Nicole brown. Thank you so much for joining us so tell us firsthand about this crazy flight from qantas. Community, a lot of fans were disappointed it wasnt renewed. They are going to do the next season on yahoo. Hopefully they wont have that problem again and everybody on the way to their destination very soon. Take a short break here. Ahead this hour, you proinl heard about the hot convict or maybe you saw that picture. He landed a modeling contract. The only thing is he has to get out of jail first. Sodium kills. 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The buses had to take them to another facility in another county because of those demonstrations. The mayor of marietta says they are expecting more people from texas. That situation, you know, it seems like with more and more immigrants being moved like this, we can see that situation again. Is that something we should be concerned about . Theres a did he have deafening silence in washington and a president who is sending out a confusing message. Hes deported more people than any other president in our country. The controls have not been put into place where every president have put measures in place to meet the challenge. Its like the two parents went in the backyard and the kids are in the front yard. Im a Second Generation Immigration Lawyer. I spend my time helping people immigrate into this country. We have an underground culture, an industry on both sides of border. We have jails that are now being used and people have heads to the bed and they are making money in america and we have smugglers taking children across. This brings us to this scenario that were seeing. Some of voices here yelling, you see the signs, return to sender. They are saying people should come to this nation legally and not through a back door. But the fact remains on those buses are children. Weve had people sit on this very desk is say its unamerican we would turn these children away that are facing poverty and maybe even death back home in their home nation. How do we balance those two things . Very difficult subject. We are a nation of law, and we are a government and a nation that took great stock in our legacy of immigration. We are all immigrants and post 9 11 as we see with the chinese exclusion acts in the 1800s, when that pendulum swings and theres for immigration and against immigration kind of sentiment, when you have a deafening silence in washington, a president trying to do something and Congress Wont budge, you cant advance this. There are multiple truths here. The truth is a humanitarian nation. These are children. The most vulnerable. They may have good political or criminal activity that they are seeking refuge. Because they are minors they dont accrue unlawful presence until a later time in their life. Its not a criminal act to have entered the United States and their sustain presence on u. S. Soil is not criminally sanctioned. Until what age . Until age 18. Its not even a criminal act at that point. The problem is since they are minors and since one state doesnt have the facilities, again, they are passing the can down the hall. This is now going to go another state that has room, and that culture, again, Immigration Detention Centers where you are putting these poor children next to hardened criminals, until they have a day in court, is just unbelievably poor judgment. Im formerly a federal prosecutor, and a mayor in new jersey where i live. Everybody is right and everybody is wrong. Taxpayers should not be paying for this. As we hold ourselves as the worlds cop, we should have a system of law that will meet and change with the times. The last time we changed our Immigration Law was president reagan in a economy was more robust than it is now. These immigrants will roll up their sleeves. I feel you could have you back and talk about this again. We can tell, not the smartest people around, were fairly decently smart. We cant solve this and we know its not an easy fix. You made a very good point theres no single point. We want to point out that cnn is taking an indepth look with the film documented it airs at k9 p. M. Eastern. President obamas favorable, Approval Rating slipping, but does that make him the worst president since world war ii . Where does he stand against the other guys since then . Well tell you right after the break. Norfolk southern whats your function . Hooking up the country helping business run trains they haul everything, safely and on time. Tracks they connect the factories built along the lines. And that means jobs, lots of people, making lots and lots of things. Lets get your business rolling now, everybody sing. Norfolk southern whats your function . Helping this big country move ahead as one Norfolk Southern hows that function . Your studied day and night for her drivers test. Secretly inside, you hoped she wouldnt pass. The thought of your baby girl driving around all by herself was. You just werent ready. But she did pass. cause shes your baby girl. And now youre proud. 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But it does speak to a lot of things going on, including, i think, just the incredible poll larization in our society. Absolutely, john. I mean the fact that george w. Bush is the second worst president in this poll does speak to how people are with their politics and their lack of perspective. Richard nixon who resigns in disgrace, this shouldnt be close. Margaret, i almost wonder if we had gone back while george w. Bush was in office and done the same poll werm, we did. I think ba the fact, i think we take it as sport to sort of pile on whoever in office. We like to complain about the job, whatever president is doing. I think thats right. I think there is also something to the timing of the polling now. Now is a particularly low water mark for most particularly presidencies. George bush had a low during this time in his second term. There had been katrina. You see this with president obama. Robert gibbs, his former press secretary called the first year after his administration the lost year. There has been and by the way his this is the sequel and by the way there has been basically, he has not been able to get anything through. His Signature Health reform has very, very unpopular to the extent the senate may even become republican by running against it. Whats really interesting is the republicans are saying the president obama is the worst president ever and democrats are saying george w. Bush is the worst president ever. The president clinton who was listed by many as the worst president ever eight years ago, before president obama took office, hes had some gains, john. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, if anyone said that bill clinton was going to be the republicans favorite exdemocrat president , you would laugh at the time because they tried to impeach the guy. It does speak the way we view the past through a sort of misty lens. The president in office in his second term looks awful. When harry truman slunk out of washington in 1955, he had a great Approval Rating. Lets look at the perspective here. Its really ridiculous. They have no sense of history is and we get obsessed with these small fights. Another topic we can talk about, the topic of being unpopular, congress, margaret, slightly more unpopular about the president. About 15 approval. Thats up from 13 . Thats a good point. Lets stay positive on this. They are more popular than a bad rash. I think john boehner basically that brings you down to relatives, blod relatives and staffers. Weve also learned that they are quietly changing the rules about reporting free trips given that 15 , it makes you wonder why they would make that move. Yeah, no wonder they are in held in such terrible acclaim. What they are saying supposedly is they were trying to make it more transparent by creating another process by which you could just look up their trips and you could whatever. Under the guise of transparency they have made it harder to find out if they are being honest about the free gifts they are getting and the free trips they are getting in their private time. No wonder we dont like congress. By the way, this is a bipartisan move. We know the Ethics Committee helps obscure rather than transparencely. Short break here. Ahead, the can aball walks free. His case was overturned. Now the former Police Officer who was in jail for conspiring to kidnap, kill, and even cook women is off the hook. Why . Because the judge believes its all fantasy. From safety. To fuel economy. To quality. Todays chevrolet has it all. And its a great time to buy. During the chevy 72 hour sale, youll get 0 apr for 72 months. Plus no Monthly Payments for the rest of the summer. 0 apr for 72 months plus no Monthly Payments for the rest of the summer. Hurry, the chevy 72 hour sale ends monday. Find new roads at your local chevy dealer. Annex new york cop convicted in a plot to kidnap, cook, and eat women is free today. Jo berto valley was freed by a judge. He is guilty of nothing more than very unconventional thoughts, but as the judge has validated, we dont put people in jail for their thoughts. We are not the thought police. I want to bring in Ashleigh Banfield, anchor of cnns legal view. This guy was convicted because jurors believed the prosecution argument that it was more than just these incredibly bizarre strange, disturbing thoughts. Those are euphemisms for creepy, awful, sickening. The jury and the judge, the jury thought one thing. This appeals judge, thinks another. You are allowed to be as freaky as you want in your head. Shes right. You cant be the thought police, but you cant act on it because once you act on it and theres tangible evidence of you acting on it, youve got from fantasy to reality. Theres a document on his computer. This is not tangible stuff. He accessed a Law Enforcement database to research victims. He went on surveillance watching potential victims and he actually conversed and conspired with other freaky people on these fetish websites. What are we missing . Why is that not anything more than just a weird fantasy. He didnt kidnap anyone. He had tools, a blueprints for tools, a gag and chloroform. Its really on the emg here. Thats why theres so much trouble in the case. We talk about after the fact something happened and we all wring our hands and say why didnt we see the signs. Werent they red flags that we could have seen . His wifes name is kimberly and on her laptop is a do you mean called abducting and cooking kimberly. A blue print. Its not a minority report. Its not a tom cruise movie. You are allowed to think as freaky as you want. You cant act on it. Now the question is acting on it. Hey, by the way, did you see the cover of the New York Post . Bon april he appetit. Is he a freak but is he a criminal . There will be another trial. Meanwhile, hes living with his mom, being fed with home cooking. She apparently cooked his dinner. How about that . What topics we have. We bring some interesting do not miss legal view. Thats the next hour of cnn. About 26 minutes from now. Ahead this hour, as the terror group haeds toward baghdad, iraq ir iraqi forces holding their ground. He made save after save after save. I could say that for 30 minutes. Tim howard, American Hero we will hear from the biggest athletic star in the world in my opinion later qo this hour. Kind of awesome. When you compare the top speed of dsl from the phone company with the top speed of comcast business internet. Well, theres really no comparison. Why pay more for less . Call today for a low price on speeds up to 150mbps. And find out more about our twoyear price guarantee. Comcast business. Built for business. We indeed have break news out of our nations capital. The prime suspect in the benghazi attack appeared in a washington courtroom this hour. Ahmed Abu Khatallah is about to leave. Tell us what was going on in that courtroom today. This was a pretrial dedeposition hearing and a judge approved pretrial detention at the governments request. The lawyer did not object. Although she complained the government has not yet presented any evidence to show that her client was involved in the benghazi attack. That was an interesting turn of events in the Court Hearing today. He did look, you know, a little subdued. He was very quiet. Didnt speak at all during the hearing. He looks like he was taken a shower. Was able to get a comb through his hair. He still had a long beard and long hair, but he looks a little different from when he first appeared here in court on saturday, john. Hes expected to leave the courthouse, shortly. What are the next steps from here, evan . Well, the next steps, they have a few more hearings set up for the next few weeks before this trial begins. We dont expect that it will begin for another few months. The government, it says that they are going to present additional charges against Abu Khatallah, including murder and these charms could bring charges could bring the Death Penalty against him. We will see what happens in the next few weeks. You mentioned his physical presentation. How about his mood . Did he look like he was following the hearing . Did he look like he was concerned . No, you know. He seems a little bewilders as you can imagine. He was plucked from the desert there just a couple of week ago and now hes in the middle of american courtroom here in the nations capital, just across the street from the u. S. Capital. He seems a little bewilledered what was going on. He seemed a little concerned about that, but beyond that, he looked around the courtroom a little bit. Didnt do much of anything. Abu khatallah could be leaving that courtroom any minute. Another thing were keeping our eye on in the middle east, theres two situations emerging. First Israel Police there scrambling to figure out if a palestinian teenager was killed as an act of revenge a day after the bodies of three missing teenagers from israel were discovered. Meanwhile, in iraq, at least 17 people were killed as the air force struck targets north of baghdad. An Iraqi Military Spokesman Says forces are gaining ground over isis militants. I want to bring in rick francona. I want to start with iraq. Because we are getting word from the u. S. Military, those advisers now on the ground who have had a chance to take a look at the situation there and assess things. They are sending first word back. What they are saying is they believe its likely that the iraqi forces can keep these isis militants out of baghdad. Yeah. I saw the word likely and that kind of struck me. So they are not real confident that they can, but the feeling that they will at least put up a fight, and that makes sense because as this is the homeland for the shia. Most of the military is going to be shia and coming into baghdad will be a big step for isis. I dont think they are going to try right yet. Its just a step too far for them right now. You are getting a sense how they are doing in the tikrit area. We talked about how tikrit might be kind of a bellwether how they are doing. They have secured the air field there and secured the military headquarters. It looks like they are nching their way back. This is good news. At some point, the iraqi army is going to have to eject these people from all of that tear tory. Really a disturbing level of tension right now. There could be retaliation. There was a palestinian teenagers body found over night. If you are seeing this cycle, how do you get out of it . This is a problem. The tragedy of these three israelis is bad enough now we complicate that with what looks like a revenge thing, now bringing a palestinian teenager in this, we got the potential for this to spiral downhill. We saw the cnn crew there. Cooler heads hopefully will prevail on both sides. The israelis are going to extract their revemping, you can understand that. I dont think this is something that either side wants to get into it. Talk about the potential impact on the region. Theres instability region as a whole. The palestinian, there are different factions of hamas, you are seeing these different groups start to align with what used to be isis, is now is just the islamic state, and these incidents in israel just play right into that. This those them that they need to band together as muslims, as radic radical islamists, its another step of instability there. Thanks so much. Up next for us, sodium that is one of the biggest issues in the american diet, big problem, but some fast food restaurants are actually increasing the amount of salt they add to their food. Well tell you what you need to know about this coming up next. Ive got a nice long life ahead. Big plans. So when i found out medicare doesnt pay all my medical expenses, i looked at my options. Then i got a Medicare Supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if youre eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80 of your part b medical expenses. The rest is up to you. 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[ male announcer ] join the millions of people who have already enrolled in the only Medicare Supplement insurance plans endorsed by aarp, an Organization Serving the needs of people 50 and over for generations. Remember, all Medicare Supplement insurance plans help cover what medicare doesnt pay. And could save you in outofpocket medical costs. Call now to request your free decision guide. And learn more about the kinds of plans that will be here for you now and down the road. Thanks so much. Its going to be a big Holiday Weekend which means a big food weekend, no doubt. Folks throwingburgers on the grill and i think there might be some potato chips consumed as well. If you are going to eat out, especially at fast food chains, the salt content isnt any better. Restaurants chains may have promised to bringing down the salt in their menus, its barely enough. Just because we know we frequent these restaurants, give us an idea of who is doing well and who are the big he have offenders . Some restaurants are doing better than others. Mcdonalds have managed to get their sodium down, so has subway but for some of these restaurants, they put in more sodium which makes no sense whatsoever since we all know you are supposed to have less, so for example, just to throw out a couple of scaxes, a jack in the box, the hamburger, the salt went up 26 from 2009 to 2013. Kfyc, kalt went up 45 . And sonic tater to the, salt went up 84 . I like the sonic tater tots. They are really tasty. Im glad you are honest about this. Nevertheless, the restaurants are supposed to be cutting them. How can they go in the other direction . I think there are too many john bermans out there. Thats what it comes down to. People like this stuff. Im going to show you the response we got from the National Restaurant association. They said across our diverse industry, restaurant are actively engage in efforts to provide consumers with lower sodium options, efforts to lower sodium are impacted by consumer preference, especially john berman, and limited technology. People like salty food so they like it. So they like salty food, so add more. This is interesting. I find interesting that the studies arthur called salt, the singlest most dreamtal thing in our diet. It can lead to heart attacks or strokes, most americans do get too much salt on average. I dont know whether its the worst, but its certainly really not good for you, too much salt. And its fair to point out its the sodium in the food. Its not the culprit isnt the salt shaker. Not at all. Someone at cnn just said to me oh, i dont put salt in my food. Its not what you put on your food. Its the stuff thats in there. You are supposed to get 1,500 milligrams a day. If you look at sonic, if you ordered the popcorn chicken, and the tater tots, that is two days worth of sodium in one meal. Two days worth of sodium in one meal. More than two days worth of sodium. You wouldnt know that. Chicken, tater tots and a drink. Sometimes you think you are making a smart choice by getting a salad or something thats lower fat, you got to look at the sodium content on one of these things. It is insiddous. Lasag lasagna, tons of salt. If theres a restaurant you go to a lot, its worth it to go to their website is and see how much salt is in your favorite dishes. And see how much salt is in your favorite dishes. Elizabeth cohen, thank you. Thank you, elizabeth. Coming up for us, after stunning the world with his good looks, the hot convict, as hes known, thinks he has a future in modeling. Only thing, he has to get out jail first. Theres a new captain america. Team usas goalkeeper tim howard. You get to hear from him next. Its data mayhem. 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It used to be you had to do something to be famous and then you could do absolutely nothing. Now all you need is a photograph. Just one photograph and youre a superstar overnight. To be fair, people get discovered all the time on the streets of new york, on the subway, at a bar. Isnt it fair they saw you know, kate upton was discovered doing the dougie when a friend videotaped her on their iphone her at a game. So theres multiple ways. Heres the bottom line. This guy is facing five weapons charges and a charge for gang related activity. That little tear tattoo isnt something that he put on his face for a role that hes playing, it typically signifies youve either killed somebody or a member of your gang has been killed. So this guy a serious predicate felon. Hes probably not getting out of jail any time soon. And the only person benefiting from the story is the Modeling Agency because i would imagine it was a very Smart Marketing move because i bet everybodys googling it. My thought is i think our fascination with orange is the new black and normalizing jail life and jail culture has got be out of hand. The teardrop signifies murder. Whos he going to model for, thugs illustrated . You have to wonder how successful a model he is going to be. He could wear a tshirt or something to cover up the teardrop . No, it seem hes not getting out of jail for a long time. His looks may go. Who knows whats going to go on over these years. If someone wants to put his picture in a magazine, who does background checks on mayors . Its not like hes becoming mayor of a city like toronto for instance. What about the notion of redemption . My producer brought this thought up. Because i do believe that people get second chances. After he pays out his debt to society, what if this is the moment that turns his lie around . We dont even know he wants to be a model. He may get out of jail and say, listen, thanks for all the attention, but i just want to shoot people. Mel. Well, you know, another interesting part of this story, michaela and john, is the fact his mother has started a crowd funding, go fund me request, to help raise the 25,000 he needs to get out of jail to post the bond. If this modeling contract were serious, wouldnt you think the agency would be posting that . A felon does need a job so this is better than him shooting people. I suppose if he gets out of jail, this would be a good job for him. Both of you, thanks so much. Mel, always a pleasure to have you with us. Mike ties be has a broadway show. He was convicted for rape. Society does weird things sometimes. It was an incredible run. Team usa, we didnt quite do it against belgium at the world cup, but it is players, they played their hearts out and their guts out. Millions of us here in the u. S. Have learned to support them even more. Soccer, it is here to stay. Perhaps the biggest star, tim howard, the sultan of the save, 16 of them yesterday, also, the secretary of defense you call him. At least wikipedia said so for a few minutes before the entry was pulled. He talked about the teams amazing effort with chris cuomo. Do you feel how big an impact youve had here along with your teammates on the country . Thats pretty cool. We have we felt it down here. Weve seen all the highlights and all of our friends have sent our videos. Weve seen youtube and all the bars and the restaurants and the parks have been sold out. Its been special. As part of this amazing journey, playing an in ting in the World Special but capturing the dreams of an imagination is certainly part of that ride. Youre defined as the secretary of defense on wikipedia. You, my man, its popular what are you going to do with all this . Take it in stride, you know, going to go home and relax and hide away, hang out with the kids, get some more tattoos, just be me. That is a cool cat right there. Almost as cool as our chris cuomo joining us from brazil. Overall, the takeaway is this is a great outing for our u. S. Team. U. S. Soccer really looking positively, dont you think . Oh, absolutely. You talk about a face. You want to brand quickly. Forget about the thug you talked about. Tim howard is a face youre going to be seeing everywhere. He represented and personified everything about the American Team that wound up being embraced by the country in a way it hadnt been before. Mick, youve been a soccer fan. I have not been a soccer fan. Ive always been an american and a fan of what the country does. But theres something about this generation of team and of americans. My kids play soccer. I didnt. But my kids do. And tim howard really personified that. Being down here, you got such a sense the team is embraced by other teams. People from other countries. Its good for the country. Tim howard was just the start. During the match last night, i sat by where his goal was in the first half. The belgium fans were turning around and saying, wow, hes great, during the match. Thats high praise. Im glad hes getting hyped. He deserves it. Safe journeys back here to america. You american. Look forward to seeing you back here. Safe travels. Thanks for joining us, im michaela pereira. Im john berman. Legal view with Ashleigh Banfield starts right now. The red flags are flying in florida. The entire east coast is now on alert. The seasons first named storm is threatening to wash out your fourth of july. Were tracking arthur this hour on cnn. Plus, fresh off a huge win at the supreme court, hobby lobby now facing new questions about its religious convictions. Those same contraceptives