There. Thats about an hour ago. Some hostaging running out of the cafe. There was gunfire, flash bang explosions. You can see police in their Tactical Gear wearing night vision goggles. You can see hostages fleeing off into safety again. They say the siege is over. The police from New South Wales say the siege is over. How it all went down there will be questions. I want to go to reporter kathy novak in sydney. Kathy, it was a long, long night 17 hours into this. Apparently it all came to an end when the man, sheik haron as he likes to call himself started moving hostages inside that roo room. It certainly seems that way, john. All that police are saying right now, they will just confirm that as you say the siege is over. We are seeking more details about how that happened and trying to confirm reports of those fatalities and injuries right now all we can confirm is that the New South Wales police say the siege is over. We saw more hostages emerging from the cafe where they had been held all day and after that police stormed the cafe and we heard from where i am standing loud gunshots ringing through the air here in sydney and thats when a number of ambulance ambulances started passing by where im standing and the situation had been rapidly unfolding ever since then. Still seeking to confirm details of how many people may have been injured or killed. A lot of the issue had been all day we havent been able to confirm how many people were even in there. The police had not been saying how many people had been taken hostage. The number varied from a does on the 50. It seemed they were closer to that dozen or so number. Were getting a better idea of how many people were in there but seeking more confirmation on their wellbeing. We saw the ambulances passing by, presumed theyve been taken to hospital and looking for more information about what happened to those people who have spent this long day in this cafe. A. A terrifying scene playing out quickly. We watched it unfold before our eyes. We saw stretchers taking out the wounded. Some people walking out under their own power. What of the gunman . Any word on confirmation he is dead or injured . Do we know anything further . No official confirmation from police yet. As we say, they say the siege is over so you can only assume the gunman has been disabled in some way but no confirmation of whether he is dead. This started to happen as we got more word about exactly who he is. Hes a selfproclaimed sheik named man haron, called himself sheik haron and he claims to offer spiritual healing and is well known to police in sydney, he faced charges dating back to 2007 of sending offensive letters to the families of soldiers who had been killed in afghanistan and has been out on bail on a string of other charges of violent offenses, including being an accessory to the murder of his exwived and of Sexual Assault. So certainly someone the police knows very well. They would be aware of what he is capable of and this outcome would be what they were hoping would not happen as they were trying all day to negotiate with this man. Kathy novak, thank you for being with us live from the streets of sydney. Our affiliate channel 7 reported the way this happened about one hour ago is this man was moving people inside that room. At that point some hostages bolted and were able to get out. A new round of people were able to escape. We saw them escape yesterday. More escaped an hour ago. At that point they saw a hostage fall and our affiliate channel 7 says what may have happened is police thought a hostage was down and as soon as that happened they say it necessitated going in and storming this this chocolate shop that we have been watching for so many hours now. Part of what may have contributed to that is this man is no stranger to authorities. He was a selfstyled muslim cleric who appears toec have be born in iran. Atika shubert joins us from london. We know the fbi had been in contact with Australian Authorities. Atika, what more do we know and what more does the u. S. Know about this man . Well, what we know is basically he was very well known to australian police. He conducted a number of attentionseeking protests, changing himself to court, for example, in 2011 and he was charged as you mentioned in those two separate cases he sent a string of offensive letters to families of diggers dying in afghanistan. He was convicted of those letters and sentenced to 3 hours of community service. Separately, last year he was also charged as being an accessory to the murder of his former wife. That case is still ongoing. This man is known to authorities not only the string of cases but the fact that he was making these public protests, draping himself in chains, holding up letters saying he was being politically persecuted. Interestingly, in a lot of his social media logs he gets increasingly radical and on his web site seems to pledge allegiance to isis. Theres no indication at this point, for example, that there was any communication or direct communication with isis in syria or iraq at all. So he does seem to be somebody who was sort of acting out on his own for the most part and doesnt seem to be affiliated with any particular Muslim Community or organization in australia. But somebody very outspoken and known very much to police. And atika, our evan perez in washington says that the United States knew of this man and had their eye on him. As you say at this moment, no link apparently between him and anyone else. Are they calling this a lone wolf incident at this point . No ones calling it that yet. What Australian Authorities are saying is it appears hes been acting on his own. The fact he does appear to have been the only hostage taker inside the shop, the fact that, from, one of his requests was an isis flag, that he didnt have one of his own suggest he is wasnt operating under anyones order bus seems to have done this on his own initiative. Atika shubert in london tracking this man. Youre seeing him right there, sheik Man Haron Monis, apparently known to authorities both in the the United States and in australia. So we now know who this man is. But obviously authorities in australia and perhaps beyond are trying to determine if he is, indeed, as you mentioned a loan wolf or part of a bigger terror network. So much has unfolded since we spoke to you on new day. This guy says he believed he was politically persecuted. He seemed to pledge allegiance to isis. But he has a string of violent offenses and is out on bail involved in a murder of an exwife. Is this a deranged man . It appears that way. Unfortunately, there is no short imagine the the world of sociopaths and no shortage of soft target, right . Thats a combination of terrorism were facing today. Your correspondent makes it perfectly clear that he didnt even have an isis flag so that suggests hes selfmotivated. But 24 this notion of a lone wolf can be somewhat misleading. Isis and before that al qaeda wanted this to happen. They used to be formal terrorist organizations. They were then limited in their capacity so what they essentially did was say hey, anyone who wants to be a member, sign on, follow us on twitter and facebook and do violent acts in our name. So many many ways while lone wolf is accurate in the seasons that he was never trained or told by isis to do this the fact were talking about isis 1 good for isis brand. This is exactly what they would want. And the number of people willing to do this, unfortunately, is infinite. These are not the days of the al qaeda Training Camps in afghanistan where hundreds would flock there and learn how to be a terrorist. Now all it takes, as you said before, is simply a computer to be radicalized and get the idea to do this. I want to talk about the last few minutes of this siege. Youve been saying all night that time was on the authorities side. This man would get tired and it would provide an opportunity go in. The fact now that we know at least two people are dead, there are several more injured, does that indicate that the end may be did not happen as authorities planned here. Thats exactly right. This was clearly being set up as a wait and see because the police in australia as you saw even n their press conferences knew that eventually physical and mental exhaustion would be to their benefit. As your correspondent and other correspondents from there have suggested, the notion of a fallen hostage then triggered what Law Enforcement is supposed to do. When the hostage taker appears to be violent as compared to waiting it out, they then go in. As weve seen so w so many of these instances whe whether the domestic, columbine or sandy hook or theyre like the boston marathon, what we know right now in terms of what unfolded in those few moments will change in the next 24, 72 hours. What was tra triggering point . Definitely not what they hope for and obviously give therein might be hostages dead not what we hoped for. Im sure this didnt miss you either, you didnt miss this either is the fact that this man is a different pro trial these lets call them lone actors instead of lone wolves because i get what youre saying. But juliette, this is a 50yearold man. This is not a young convert or someone disenfranchised. What do you make of that . Well so demographics are very different but in some ways the biography sounds familiar. He is isolated from most people and in particular his family if he was in a caustic divorce. What we have to remember in a almost all of these cases, the person is known to authorities for something different. They were either sociopathic or violent or went after their wife more to this case all of the above. Its a way Law Enforcement has to learn about what are the potential triggering events for someone like this who is a who they are aware of to then find a meaning for their craziness. For their violent behavior and isis or al qaeda provides them that meaning. Its delusional, we know this. Im not justifying it. But in open societies like ours and australia where we love the diversity of religion and ethnicity and the peacefulness that that diversity almost always brings is as i said, there are an infinite number of sociopaths and an infinite number of soft targets in the world we live in and well just be getting used to this and Getting Better in our response as well. We hope the latter is certainly the truth. Obviously well talk more about that in the coming days and hours. Stay with us. Well have more on our breaking news sydney, australia, the siege is over. Well update you on the latest developments after a short break. Hello. Im an idaho potato farmer and our big idaho potato truck is still missing. So my buddy here is going to help me find it. Here we go. Woo who, woah, woah, woah. 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Police say the siege is over after more than 17 hours ago. It ended one hour ago in a hail of gunfire and also flash bangs that people heard and saw so clearly. Tony roman is president of roman and associates, a Global Association and Risk Management firm. Well bring you into this discussion right now. Given what they knew about this man, authorities knew this man, Man Haron Monis wrote threatening letters to the australian parents of servicemen who died fighting in afghanistan. They knew hed been investigated for violent acts, domestic abuse, perhaps plotting to kill his wife. Given what they knew about his tendency to violence, how did that affect how this siege ended . Did it necessitate going in in force more quickly . I think what happens in all sieges is they follow a very strict protocol. When a hostage is injured or threatened to be killed that s the moment authorities will move in the Tactical Police train with military commandos in night operations and rescues so theyre well equipped to handle that kind of rescue at that tim time. It was interesting to watch, juliette, how different other hostage takings it was. The gunman encouraged hostages to seemingly send messages via social media. We saw several videos post ed o youtube. Obviously police and authority there is and obviously fbi would have been combing through those looking at them carefully to see what they reveal about this man. And what they reveal about where theyre being held. Are there openings . Doors . Is someone at the window . How many hostage takers are there. Because remember just 12 or 13 hours ago we didnt it was not clear that there was only one. So this is the era of terrorist or people who want attention utilizing social media to amplify their impact globally. This is what he did. He had the globe, all of us watching because we didnt know what it was, it could have ended much worse than it did. Thats why social media was being utilized and its almost impossible to control. You send it out and its very difficult for police to control. Tony, this man, Man Haron Monis, it was a 17hour siege. Authorities were speaking to him either collectly or through hostages for a long part of this time. How do you think they approached him . What were they looking for . Well, they knew they were dealing with a sociopath. This gentleman had a history of Sexual Assaults and indecent exposure. He practiced black magic. They knew this man very, very well. So first they profiled the individual psychologically and they approach him to see what his state of mind is. Then they have various Technical Methods to hear whats going on inside the room and to actually view it as well. They make an assessment as to how many hostage holders they are. In this case one, that hes mentally unstable, that he has a history of violence. All of that is taken into assessments. Decisions are made early on as to what point the assault was to took place. Another thing we know is that Law Enforcement has time on their side. Theyre not desperate. Theyre not anxious. Theyre desperate to save lives but they have time on their side. One of the things i found interesting is we heard earlier today that as time goes on, 12 hours, 13 hours, it got up to about 17 hours when this culminated, if you will, the Mental Health of the person starts to waiver a little bit as well, right . Their emotional stability, more this siege carries on. Michaela, youre exactly right. But its a doubleedged sword here because a desperate person could react. Yes, exactly. What happens is they become physically tired, they become more confused, the pressure builds to control the situation, hostages are escaping, the police are putting the psychological pressure on him. They get hungry, they get thirsty. This builds up to a cup my nation as to where they start to acquiesce to police suggestions of surrender or move in the other direction and become violent. In this case he appeared not very happy that additional members of the hostages escaped. Juliette kayyem is still with us. Juliette, overnight there was a News Conference with the commissioner of the police in New South Wales who spoke directly to the hostages and said we are going to take care of you. I want you to know that our only here is to get you out safe ly. Was that a message to sit tight . We believe a group of hostages broke away at the end and it appears there was a hostage down somehow. You know, i heard that, too. I think what he might have also been telling them is we dont care who this guy is, theres going to be all sorts of talk, is he part of isis or al qaeda, we are focused on getting you out safely. But, you know, just back to the points weve been making this whole segment, the police are trained to anticipate that hostages will take advantage of any opening they can. We know this, right . And any of us would do the same. The most important thing now and the lessons of what happened is those who are hurt and injured and potentially dead is whose bullet bullets because we likely have an issue of friendly fire. Thats the only way well find out what happened in that very moment and learn from it. Not to cause blame, these are situations and with nothing nothing rarely goes by the book, but to simply find out what happened in that moment when everything got violent. It was certainly a heartpounding few minutes as it went down. Juliette kayyem, tony roman, we appreciate you joining us with your expertise. As for now, we believe the gunman did not have any accomplices, should we here in the United States be concerned . Well discuss that after a break. 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Police say the man took all of the hostages, the man who did, is a selfdescribed cleric who had a violent history. Were joined now by cnn terrorism analyst paul cruickshank. Paul, people are saying this man appears to have acted alone. He wanted an isis flag, no one knows if theres any direct link between this man who calls himself sheik haron and isis. But is this a new model . Where there doesnt need to be a direct connection between a person and isis itself where people only need to be inspired to commit terror . Thats right, john. All the indications is this is a loan wolf attack. That he was inspired by isis. He wanted to do this to retaliate for u. S. And italian air strikes against isis in iraq and syria. In a recent posting he talks about the australians and the americans as terrorists so that appears to be the motivation here. Its a new model for isis. The isis spokesman back in september called for lon wolf attacks in the west in a fatwa. Telling isis supporters that it was their religious obligation to launch these attacks. Since then, weve seen a numberer be of plots. Two fatal terrorist attacks in canada, then an attempted hatchet attack in new york as well. There have been plots in the europe and uk, john. So a new model of terrorism worrying Law Enforcement officials because its so difficult to detect. Lets drill down on that further. You dont think of australia is having to deal with these kinds of threats but as you mentioned we saw canada, seen as a fairly peaceful nation i dont just say 245 because im from there but they have had their shares of Terror Threats and issues. Australia even, theyve raised their terror alert recently, no . Thats right. In september that same month there was a beheading lunged back to isis. There was a stabbing by an isis inspired teen in melbourne. Australia has been grabbling with radicalization for quite a long time there was a lot that year in sydney, another plot in 2000 linked to an al shabab support group. Theres a large lebanese diaspora population in australia and some of the Second Generation have become radicalized and weve seen people travel across to syria quite easy for these lebanese peek to travel there. About 15 have been killed there. A couple dozen believe to have return from australia. Australia is dealing with its problem just like that United States. Paul, you have your ear to the ground and soshl media on days like this. What are terror groups saying . What is the chatter online right now . Is anyone claiming to be connected to this man . The anyone praising the actions that just happened in sydney . Isis itself have not yet weighed in but there have been responses on social media from jihadis calling this guy, as can be expected, a hero. Calling it a lone wolf operation. Well see much more of a response in the hours ahead. Isis is very likely to make propaganda out of this but it does not seem at this hour that this guy was organizationally connected to this isis terrorist group. We also think its worth saying that some 40 odd Muslim Leaders in australia have denounced the violent actions of this man and offered prayers for all involved. Paul cruickshank, great to have your intelligence with us, thanks for joining us. Thank you. Ahead here, how the u. S. Is helping Australian Authorities. Our special coverage continues after a short break. [coughing] dave, im sorry to interrupt. I gotta take a sick day tomorrow. Dads dont take sick days, dads take nyquil. The nighttime, sniffling, sneezing, coughing, aching, fever, best sleep with a cold, medicine. And our big idaho potato truck is still missing. So my buddy here is going to help me find it. Here we go. Woo who, woah, woah, woah. 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Call Liberty Mutual for a free quote today at see Car Insurance in a whole new light. Liberty mutual insurance. Welcome back to at this hour. Im john berman. And im michaela pereira. I want to thank our viewers for staying with us. The siege in sydney, australia, has come to an end. It was dramatic and harrowing. About an hour and a half ago it became clear negotiations no longer an option. You can see police storming the lindt cafe where a man identified as 50yearold iranian native Man Haron Monis, thats his name, he held more than a dozen people hostage for nearly 17 hours. Dramatic video shows hostages running for their lives. You hear gunfire, flash grenade, explosions as Police WearingTactical Gear and night vision goggles. More pictures now coming through, it looks like theres more activity going on. Sean, lets find out whats happening now. You can probably hear the loud explosions behind me. I dont know if its gunfire. I dont know if its some sort of small explosive device. Theyre throwing something, sean . The police are throwing something . They are, theyre throwing something into the doorway. Weve just seen another hostage brought out. This all happened very suddenly in very, very fast. There are now reports that two people were killed, at least three injured. Its not clear if the hostage taker is one of the fatalities. Police stay siege is over. Police are combing the area to see if perhaps there are any explosives planted in the vicinity. Australia is a key u. S. Ally. Australia is also a country where the Terror Threat level was raised this fall from medium to high. Want to go to evan perez in washington we understand the fbi was helping Australian Authorities. What was the fbi role . They have a very close relationship, the fbi does. And u. S. Intelligence with the australian counterparts. We know that one of the things they were trying to do is help australians get information on the suspects. One thing australians figured out who he was several hours ago, we know that the u. S. Was trying to help gather any information that we might have access to that the u. S. Might have access to including his social media accounts. He was very active on social media railing against the u. S. Air strikes against isis. And we know that they also were concerned about trying to identify any americans who might have been involved there. We havent gotten full clearance on whether or not there are any but that was a very chaotic end to the situation. They did not want it to go this way. You can see from the video you just showed that police were throwing flash bang grenades and firing into this dark room thats not the way you want to end these thing. The fbi has experience with this. Also the australian police. We recently in september had the australian Prime Minister and Police Officials from New South Wales and sydney in new york to meet with the joint terrific task force in new york. The australians have set up a similar situation with local and federal police just for these types of situations. Its important to remember as you were talking about if there were any american there. It was 45 when this started. A coffee shop in the Business District not far from the sydney opera, some big world banks are located nearby. Some people coming in and out to get their coffee when this went down. Evan perez, thanks so much. Were going to explore this social media aspect to the standoff because over the last 17 hours there were messages going back and forth on social media. And this is the man who was behind this was also a guy who had a social Media Presence that authorities have been watching for some time, too. Thats just ahead. Will that be all, sir . Thank you. Ordering chinese food is a very predictable experience. I order b14. I get b14. No surprises. Buying business internet, on the other hand, can be a roller coaster White Knuckle thrill ride. 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And tom how did in this case the social media change the way that authorities handled the case . You know, this used to be a standard protocol in these situations to isolate the person who was Holding People hostage so they have no communication. Now with social media this guy was effectively setting up his own broadcast channel of what was going on inside at his will. Four times he posted videos among other ways through a Service Called live leak which is a ukbased service where people can post videos. These were videos from hostages pleading for the authorities to go along with his demands. We have a clip from one of the last ones here. Take a listen to what he had on here. Please help us. Its simple. He wants an isis flag and he wants tony abbot to speak to him on live media. Pretty straightforward. What else can we do . We are begging. That was from the last one so it was more intense than the earlier ones but in each one there was a recitation of these simple demands to talk to the Prime Minister to begiven an isis flag and for this to be called an isis attack on australia and he had control over that part of the message here that complicates things for authorities but it gives them a lot of information. Even looking at his digital footprint if you will is going to reveal a lot about this man, who he is, his behavior. His interest, his frustrations. This has been a growing area of forensics over the past ten years or so. I remember when this was first happening and terrorist groups started nibbling at social media and Law Enforcement was saying well, that is twoway street. Theres a ton of information to be gained by that about who hes in contact with. That was true in this case, too. You looked at his twitter feet feed. That told him a lot about this guy and by having hostages speak every time the message was slightly different in each of these videos and each one gave more information about what was happening inside and his state of mind. So interesting how social media undeniably a powerful tool for the terrorist in circumstances like this but a powerful tool for Law Enforcement as well because it gives away information and thats what you need when youre looking into a room where you dont know whats going on. You dont know how many hostage, the lights are out. So many difficulties they were facing. Tom foreman thank you so much. We have an update right now on the aftermath from our affiliate Channel Seven news in sydney. Two people are dead, possibly including the hostage taker. Two people dead possibly including the hostage taker. Thats an open question. Three people are still in serious condition. Well bring you the latest after the break. We are about to make more gooddeliveriesverybody. 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The hostage taking in sydney, australia, 50yearold iranian native Man Haron Monis, well known to australian Law Enforcement for writing harassing letters to parents of dead australian soldiers who allegedly being an accessory to his exwifes murder. Allegations of sex crimes from his time as a selfdescribed muslim cleric and spiritual leader. I want to bring in fran townsend, our National Security analyst, former Homeland Security and counterterrorism advisor. So great to have you here. I remember speaking to richard clark, also a counterterrorism expert who would sauchb alook, if these bad guys decide that all of a sudden they want to run in to stores and malls and coffee shops, you cant stop them. You cant stop everyone who wants to do this all over the world but there is a difference between that and the systemic terror that you and so many others worked so many years to bat. Thats right, john. Look, the problem with this is not meerly a lone wolf, one deranged guy. This is one deranged guy whos been inspired by an ideology. He got the idea to act and he was inspired to act by the islamic state. And so it adds fuel to what is already the tremendous challenge youve just outlined of the lone wolf. You know, just last week we hear from american officials theres no imminent threat here in the United States. I would suspect you would have heard the same thing from the australians the day before this attack because this is not the kind of attack that has a loop, an operational loop that you can get inside and disrupt because, as you say, one guy goes in with a gun and takes hostages. You talk about that ideology, we know this ideology is spreading and in some ways, i suppose, is spreading like wildfire that poses both an interesting footprint when youre tracking it as Law Enforcement, but it also is really dangerous. I started the counterextremism project solely to devote itself to this problem. That is, trying to get these guys off the internet. To challenge them in that space. When somebody goes. Operational as we saw today in sydney, theres a value to collect that and then take it offline. So Law Enforcement gets the benefit, but you deny him the ability to continue with the propaganda. My great fear is jihadists around the world have seen the worlds aengs to this incident. One guy, 17 hours, and it may inspire others to take similar actions. Sydney will stand strong though. They will not buckle under the force of Something Like this. To be sure, i want to talk about the hours while this man was holding these hostages, 17 hours or so. How do you think the fact he did have a tendency toward violence and also had written these horrific letters to the parents of soldiers from australia who fought in afghanistan. How does his record influence how authorities treated him and going in quickly at the end right there . I should hasten to add the australian intelligence and Security Service is one of the best in the world. The tactics, this was a model. The australiaens could not have handled it better. It took tremendous courage. The advantage of it being. At dark and at night. That had some risk and tragically we have seen there may be hostages and others either injured or killed, but it took tremendous courage and Tactical Training to be able to do what they did so successfully. Let me just play devils advocate on backing up before it became operational. All of the Sexual Assault charges, he was out on bail because he was potentially involved in the killing of his exwife. He wrote letters to Fallen Soldiers families, confronted them. He paraded in the street with hateful messages. Was there a lot of red flags here for Australian Authorities . The only one you mentioned that should have been a red flag in my mind is the writing of the letters to dead soldiers families. Unfortunately, the police and fbi chased everybody who had a domestic dispute. You just cant. We dont have the kind of resources. The one thing that makes him slightly different is this writing letters to dead soldiers families. Thats pretty out there. That suggests an ideological bent. They clearly were aware of him and may have been tracking him. Today is probably not the day to sort of look at what they could have done better, but thats kind of a flag that troubles me. Questions that will be asked in the coming days. Great to have you with us. Thank you. The chaos erupted, a community banded together, a little bit of hope, a little bit of positive in a terrible day. What went on, well tell you. The mercedesbenz winter event is back, with the perfect vehicle thats just right for you, no matter which list youre on. [ho, ho, ho, ho] lease the 2015 ml 350 for 579 a month at your local mercedesbenz dealer. Ah, h it. Push it. P. Push it real good ow oooh baby baby. Baby baby. If youre saltnpepa, you tell people to push it. Push it real good. Its what you do. Ah. Push it. 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After an online backlash, uber reversed course. Cnn money correspondent Laurie Seigel joins us now. Let me read you what they twooet twooeted. They said were all concerned with the events. Fairs have increased to encourage more drivers to come online and pick up passengers in the area. They are trying to get more people to incentivize them to come in. They apologized and said they would reimburse drivers. You dont want that to happen. Thats not something that feels good and they certainly faced a backlash for it. Im over them and the thought of what they did and their tone deafness. I want to turn to something positive that came out of an awful situation. Tell us the story about this hash tag thats trending now. This is really nice to hear in light of Something Like this. Left turn illridewithyou. Youre looking right there at how quickly this ising with tweeted. Its being picked up. The story behind this is a woman was on a bus and she heard that this attack might have been racially motivated and she feared antimuslim septemberment so she started to take off her religious attire and a woman says dont do this. Ill ride with you. It was this idea in light of everything happening and if there could be antimuslim sentiment, lets show our support and win when it comes to peace. It picked up and did well online, as you see. Its adding to the story, which in some ways played out on social media. Social media was a key element of tracking the events inside that room as some of the people hostages were sending out messages on facebook and twitter and the hostage taker was sending out videos on youtube. And sydneysiege played out all night. The way that news breaks, it is completely changing and looking at how even when i looked at this news, i could look at sydneysiege and you see everything happening as it happens. It gives you a better idea of whats going on there. Right now, im currently digging on the suspect and being able to look at his digital footprint online and say was there any signs or indication that can happen so you can see the power social media plays. You and Law Enforcement will be busy looking into his footprint to figure out what hes been interested in. Im really glad we got to bring up this note. Theres going to be a gut reaction from some people who dont understand the muslim faith and might just respond and think wrong thoughts about this. Theres no time for islamphobia. That is it for us. Thank you for joining us. Legal view starts right now. Hello, everyone, im ashleigh banfield. Welcome to our viewers in the United States and around the world. Its 4 00 on tuesday in sydney, australia, where a 16hour hostage standoff is now over, but some very important dpe details are still unknown. Two people were killed, three others seriously hurt when police stormed the cafe a little less than two hours ago. That was just moments after five or more hostages were either allowed to go free or escaped on their own. Five others ran free hours earlier