Kate Bolduan gives a fresh take on todays top stories. What happened with this meeting beyond just the meeting. Was there any sort of further contact, any sort of further conspiracy to disseminate any of this information. Because thats obviously what happened after this meeting. And also goes to this idea youve had President Trump basically saying, oh, the russians didnt help. The russians really wanted Hillary Clinton to win, theyre upset that i won. He said at his rally just recently. But here he is, admitting that there was this meeting with the russians, where the russians were trying to help his campaign. And norm, youve worked for the administration, you worked for president obama. The fact that a lawyer for the president of the United States says that he got Bad Information when it comes to jay sekulow, who would he have gotten that Bad Information from that he was so comfortable then going on tv and repeating . Well, kate, the Bad Information we now know originally stemmed from President Trump when he dictated
that false coverup statement. That kind of a statement, if its found to be an intentional, can be part of a larger obstruction or conspiracy case, the statement dictated on the plane. And the fish rots from the head. Clearly, it had to have some involvement by President Trump. And thats the key problem here. If we cant believe President Trump that this was a meeting about russian adoptions, then why do we believe him now when he says he didnt know about it, as he declared in his tweet . Theres been so many lies from this president. Thousands, according to the washington post. And theyre accelerating. Thats the reason that he probably his lawyers do not want him to talk to bob mueller, because as soon as he opens his mouth about this or anything else, hes either going to commit perjury, or hes going to
confess to object trucstruction conspiracy. So were seeing it spinning out of control. Well, quite simply, no one knows. And thats why i keep saying my hair hurts on this. If it was nothing, if they got nothing, if theres nothing wrong, then why, oh, why has it taken if theres still no clear answer of who knew what, when and why . Donald trump disputes this, but the cnn reporting that he is really worried, as youre talking about, the legal exposure to his son, don, junior, about this, where is the legal exposure he should be worried about . For don, junior, hes the only one thats testified under oath. The more that comes up with his inconsistencies, the problem. Did he tell his dad, did his dad know about it . Did he realize his meeting with russian officials, which seems blatantly obvious from the first email that says its a Crown Prosecutor in russia. So hes got the most exposure on that. For the president , i mean, it would be a novel Prosecution Theory to go with obstruction,
just based on tweets. But i think as norm pointed out, the president is just making more trouble for himself with the tweets. And the tweets can set the foundation for him being questioned and making false statements under oath or during interview testimony. Even if they cants we prosecut him, the tweets create a dangerous atmosphere for him. Norm, go back to the basics. President trump says that what was done in the taking the meeting to get dirt was totally legal and done all of the time in politics. Is that the case . Kate, i was a lawyer for the obama campaign, the Obama Transition and the obama white house. And i can tell you, we didnt have a single contact with a hostile foreign adversary to offer dirt on john mccain. If we had, we wouldnt have replied as don, junior did. If it is what you say, i love it. Our reply would have been, call the fbi. And this is not normal. Ive written about the potential crimes that come in under the heading of collusion, including conspiracy, an agreement to attack the United States. There were more than 80 contacts, according to my count, between the Trump Campaign and russia. And if those contacts we know bob mueller, ive worked with him and against him for a quarter of a century. We know that if bob mueller believes that there was a Trump Campaign participation in a conspiracy to attack the United States election, hes already charged dozens of russian individuals and companies with that. If he believes the Trump Campaign participated at the trump tower meeting or in any of these 80plus contacts, hes going to charge somebody. And i agree with shan. Don, junior is among the most likely targets. And we have a clue. Mueller hasnt yet talked to
him. Hes saving him for last. Thats a sign that he may be charged. If theres one constant in the inconsistencies in all of it, the one thing is that the president says that he didnt know anything about the meeting. Didnt know anything about the meeting in advance. Thats the one constant there is, which i find fascinating. And well continue to follow it. I guess is all we can say. Shan, nia, thanks so much. Norm, great to see you, thank you. I appreciate you guys coming in. Thanks, kate. The white house will be putting sanctions back on iran, but also says it is still willing to talk without any preconditions. What is going on here . And what does this mean in the very immediate future . We have details on that ahead. Plus, the saddest Living Conditions and poverty i have seen. That is how a sheriff is describing the 11 children found starving in the middle of the new mexico desert. Were going get an update on how those children are doing now today and how they ended up in these horrific conditions. Thats actually pretty. Always discreet boutique. Hidden inside is a super absorbent core that quickly turns liquid to gel. So i feel protected and pretty. Always discreet boutique. I knew at that exact moment. Im beating this. My main focus was to find a team of doctors. Its not just picking a surgeon, its picking the care team and feeling secure in where you are. Visit cancercenter. Com breast
so at this moment, what will sanctions being slapped back on iran, what do they do now . Well, theres no question that it will increase the economic pain on iran. Youve had the iranian currency already fall in roughly by half this year. And there is unrest in iran, and im sure this will contribute to that. The most important part will happen in 90 days when theyre going to slap Oil Sanctions on iran. But, you know, its not clear to me that the Trump Administration has any plan. And let me make that actually stronger. I dont think the Trump Administration has any plan for how to translate these sanctions into actual into an actual agreement that would end the Iranian Nuclear program to a great greater extent than it was already ended under which iran had given up 97 of its material. Unilateral sanctions, tough tweets and a lot of hope i dont think will be successful. You actually raised Something Interesting there. The ball is in whose court then . Sanctions go back on. Iran needs to come to the Trump Administration to say, lets talk . Or trump needs to go to iran and is already saying, we would be open to talking. Its unclear to me. Trump seems to be pursuing the same kind of strategy he pursued with north korea. Issuing blood curdling tweets, which he did a couple weeks ago and then a week later saying, oh, im ready to talk without preconditions. And he thinks that strategy was successful with north korea. Earth to trump. It has not succeeded. North korea is not giving up their nuclear offense, and theres no sign its going to succeed with iran because the sanctions that were going to impose i dont think are going to put sufficient pressure on iran to make bigger concessions than they already made with the obama administration. Because every indication is that the russians and chinese are coming in to take over the kind of work that european and u. S. Companies are doing in iran. China will probably continue buying iranian oil. So i dont think this policy is going to work. In fact, theres very few i
mean, they seem to have hope of regime change, but theres very few examples in history of sanctions actually forcing regime change. South korea might be the only one. Countries like north korea, venezuela and cuba have endured decades of u. S. Sanctions without changing regimes or changing their behavior. So, you know, i dont see a well thought out Trump Administration policy in place here. I just wonder what the status of the relationship really is. Because over the weekend, the president raised again the idea of meeting with the iranian president , much like as youre talking about, the meeting he had with kim jongun. But how would you describe the status of this relationship, non relationship with iran right now. I would take trump up on his offer to meet, because given trumps track record, he is easily duped in these kinds of negotiations. He is prone to go into a negotiation like with north korea or the european union, you know, Breathing Fire and brim stone. And then its all sweetness and
light and hes backslapping everybody, praising interlocutors. He could easily praise president rouhani as being intelligent, warm, witty, et cetera, after a meeting and, you know, concluding a deal which is probably going to be half as onerous as the one he tore up. I think theyre shortsighted not to take advantage of trump in that respect. But, you know, assuming theyre not going to meet, i think youre going to see, you know, further tensions ratcheting up. Let me ask you, then, about north korea. Because cnn is reporting that north korea actually believes there is a strong possibility of a second summit between President Trump and kim jongun later this year. But if you look at the latest facts since their last summit, youve got the Secretary Of State saying that north korea is continuing to make fizzle material. Images indicating that north korea is making new missiles. But north korea did return what the Trump Administration believes are the remains of more than 50 service in ebmembers fre
korean war which is what they discussed in the summit. Whats the point of a second meeting now . Thats a great question, kate. Everything im seeing suggests that north korea is taking donald trump to the cleaners. His credulity is staggering. North korea is not taking significant steps to denuclearize as they supposedly promised at the singapore summit. Theyre doing the absolute minimum, turning over these 55 remains, which may or may not be u. S. Service members remains. They could be dog bones, for all we know. And continuing their development of icbms. Theyre continuing their development of nuclear fuel, as mike pompeo acknowledged. So there is no sign theyre actually denuclearizing and the notion of rewarding with a second summit . I mean, that is ludicrous. The first one is bad enough, but a second one after they havent done anything significant is absurd. Clearly what the north koreans are angling for is major exceptions on the part of the u. S. For example, a peace treaty
which could pave the way for the pullout from south korea after trump already agreed to suspend u. S. Military exercises. They are looking for major concessions on the u. S. Part and not doing anything significant on their part. But, you know, trump is kind of going along with this travesty, because he wants to run around and beat his chest and claim hes the worlds best dealmaker and got a great deal from north korea. Lets see, max. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Thanks, kate. Coming up for us, a district that President Trump won by double digits in 2016. Why is tomorrows special election in ohio coming down to the wire then . The latest from the ground and what it all means for the allimportant midterm elections. Saving you time for what you love most. Kids whoa kids vo safelite repair, safelite replace Agent Beekman was one step ahead of them. Dits stole the lockbox from the wells fargo stagecoach,
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dispatch, jessica we areman. Thanks for being here. Jessica, lets talk about the feeling on the ground right now. What is the feeling there . What is the impact of the president s visit saturday . I mean, there are folks who are very motivated. Th this is a very interesting district. The rural areas are supportive of trump. Closer into columbus. The feelings are a little more skeptical, and thats a place where governor kasich pulls better. So its kind of a divided republican populus. And it really sort of depends hopefully for republicans. Republicans are hoping, at least, theyll be able to motivate the base, those folks from the rural areas who are very, very solid for President Trump out. And that was sort of the point of the rally. David, you look at the poll again. Theyre essentially tied. Where balderson, the republican, had a tenpoint lead in june. Is this looking to be, you know, elections are all local type of a race . Or in the end, is this a referendum on the president and the current kind of Political Climate, do you think . The current Political Climate is about President Trump. Theres no denying that. Obviously, you see that is not the subject of all what the candidates are talking about or the ads. Theres a lot more talk about Social Security and medicare than there is necessarily about President Trump or nancy pelosi on the airwaves, kate. But we cant deny the National Political environment. Since january 2017 when President Trump took office, the story of politics in the trump era at the ballot box has been this democratic enthusiasm. Even in these red districts when they have come up short, democrats are outperforming what the candidate had done there previously, what Hillary Clinton did there in those districts. You saw in the conor lamb race in pennsylvania, it actually emerged in a democratic victory, flipping that seat that donald trump won by 20 points. Here weve got a seat that donald trump won by 11, as you said, a republican has been holding it for 35 years or so. It shouldnt even be close, but it is close, because of the National Political environment. And it is, as you have already pointed out, jessica, a
fascinating i dont know, tension, if you will. Because balderson gets the endorsement of both Ohio Governor and chief trump critic, john kasich. And also the endorsement and big backing by the president himself. Though kasich yesterday says that balderson told him that he actually didnt ask the president to come for the visit. Whats going on there . That made things a little bit awkward. I mean, you know, originally republicans were saying, oh, my goodness, this is the one thing where President Trump and governor kasich actually agree on something. By god, weve managed to unit these sort of divided parts of the party. The comments yesterday on cnn made some republicans in ohio kind of, you know, go, ooh. Im not really, you know it made it a little more awkward, where things looked much more unified originally. Well see. I dont know if it will have an impact on who votes tomorrow. I think probably voters are more interested in the issues that really sort of affect them. How is their pocketbook, how do they feel about their jobs . Yeah. But, i mean, its kind of
it was i guess our october surprise. It was just another awkward in this awkward Political Climate, david. David, a win for the democrat, danny oconnor, means what . It means a huge shot in the arm in advance of this home stretch Fall Campaign season at the november midterm elections, kate. This is, you know, the last special election of the cycle. Both parties are looking very closely for signals about what it means for november. And if democrats can win this kind of republican district, first and foremost, their magic number goes from 23 to 22. They need 22 then net gain seats to take over the house of representatives. But it also means that they may have chances, because of the enthusiasm on their side in some of these very republican districts. And just a note, everybody. When they finish this tomorrow, they continue campaigning, because this seat is back up in november. So yeah, theyre back at it in november. And not only that, theres a guy named oconnor, a libertarian who will be on the ballot in
november. So two oconnors in november. Talk about awkward. Great to see you, david. Thanks, jessica. Thank you. Well be covering that tomorrow as they head to the polls. We have this story out of new mexico. Police were searching for a missing child. They made a shocking discovery in the new mexico desert. 11 children held captive in a filthy trailer, starving, wearing nothing but rags. That is from the sheriff. Were going to get the very latest on their conditions, their future, and the investigation into who is responsible. Thats next. From any one else. Why accept it from your Allergy Pills . Flonase sensimist relieves all your worst symptoms, including nasal congestion, which most pills dont. And all from a gentle mist you can barely feel. Flonase sensimist. You can barely feel. If you have moderate to thsevere rheumatoid arthritis, month after month, the clock is ticking on irreversible joint damage. Ongoing pain and stiffness are signs of joint erosion. Humira can help stop the clock. Prescribed for 15 years, humira targets and blocks a source of inflammation that contributes to joint pain and irreversible damage. Humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. Serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened; as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. Before treatment, get tested for tb. Tell your doctor if youve been to areas where certain fungal infections are common, and if youve had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flulike symptoms or sores. Dont start humira if you have an infection. Help stop the clock on further irreversible joint damage. Talk to your rheumatologist. Right here. Right now. Humira. Shocking and horrible scene. The childrens ages range from 1 to 15. They had no food, no running water. Wore dirty rags for clothing cnns Kaylee Hartung is reporting on this. There were so many Unanswered Questions about all of this. What more are you learning . Reporter yeah, the sheriff saying these are the saddest Living Conditions in poverty hes ever seen. Authorities are determining what these 11 children endured in these conditions, but the information they have to this
point has led them to charge all five adults with 11 counts of child abuse each. The two men, theyre facing criminal charges, as well. One of those men is believed to be the father of that child, the missing 3yearold, who is still missing. That child not among the 11 children found here. Though thats what authorities expected to find. You mentioned the three women believed to be the mothers of those 11 children. All of these adults in custody. Though it doesnt sound like theyre answering many of the authorities questions. None are forthcoming with information as to the missing 3yearold, his current whereabouts. Today that childs 4th birthday. The sheriff does have reason to believe that child was there in recent weeks. Kate, those two men were found heavily armed when authorities raided the compound. Were talking about ar15s, loaded pistols, 30round magazines. You said it. So many more questions than answers, as we learn more and
see these truly shocking pictures. Today is the childs birthday . Reporter it is. Thats tears you up. Thanks so much, caylee. That child still missing. What happens with the children they have in custody . What happens with these children now . Joining me now is Cabinet Secretary for new mexicos children, youth and families department, monique jacobson. Thank you so much for being here. Its my pleasure. So the sheriff says hes been working his job for 30 years, and hes never seen anything like this. What can you tell us about these children and how theyre doing . I can tell you that we have a full team of people right now that are really focused on making sure that we are looking out for the safety and wellbeing of these children. We have people that are doing different types of assessments and working with the children. Our first goal, of course, is just to minimize any sort of additional trauma that any of these children would be experiencing. Make sure were getting their basic needs met and surrounding
them with caring people. The sheriff said that the 11 children looked like they were thirdworld country refugees. Not only with no water, no food, but with no shoes or personal hygiene. What is with all of that in mind, whats the first priority, if these are the conditions that they were found in or living in . You know, the first thing we always want to do is make sure were getting their most basic needs met. So getting them fed, of Course Hydration is really important and essential. And then making sure we can get them cleaned up and comfortable clothing. Like, we really want to make these kids as comfortable as possible before we have to ask them any questions or try to learn more about what was occurring in their environment. And i know its a difficult position of what you can discuss and cant, because we were talking about minors, of course, who have been through unbelievable horror already. Do you have any idea how long theyve been in these Living Conditions . Yeah, i cant really speak to any of the specifics, as its part of both an Ongoing Investigation for us, as well as for law enforcement. But, of course, those are all the things that were looking into. While also making sure just that their immediate neets ads are b met and were making them as comfortable as possible. And are they talking . Im sorry, are they what . Are they talking . Like, is that part of where you are in the process of i mean, like, talking to you about what theyve been dealing with . So one thing that typically in a situation like this, of course, we work to get their basic needs met, and then we do usually do what are called forensic interviews. So we have experts who will interview the children to, again, try to get as much information as possible. In terms of what they know, what they have experienced, what was going on, where in the
environment they have been removed from. So thats definitely a part of the process. I will tell you, just from other similar situations that weve had, it can take children some time before they feel comfortable in terms of talking and really letting us know things that were occurring. So its important that we not do anything to rush that. But that we really kind of respect where they are and what theyre comfortable with disclosing at this time. Absolutely. And unfortunately, you see a lot of horrible cases, of horrible things that happen to children. How do you make sense of Something Like this . There is you know, any time a childs basic needs are not being met, its heart breaking. Its horrific. And i think i dont think there is truly a way to make sense of it. What i can tell you is that we really focus on doing all we can again to minimize that trauma and to get them in a place, in a position where they can recover from whats happened to them. You know, some people tell me, you can never truly recover from it. But i will tell you, i have met some amazing, remarkable young people who went through horrific things in their past. And theyre incredible. And just to get to see the lives theyve gone on to live, i think it gives us hope. It gives us a belief that as long as we do the community or staff everyone that kind of they end up interacting with. As long as we come together to support them, i have gotten to see, i guess, the there can be incredible futures for children that have experienced really horrific pasts. It is amazing how resilient Young Children are, but a long road ahead for them, No Matter What. Monique jacobson, thank you so much for speaking to us about where they are in the process going forward. Well stay close to this. I really appreciate it. Thank you. And, again, a 3yearold, now 4yearold today on his birthday is still missing. And that is what sparked all of this, this search for a now 4yearold missing little boy. Well continue to follow this. Still to come for us, another important story about children that we will continue to follow, as well. Hundreds of immigrant children still separated from their parents. Who is taking the lead to reunite niece families . The federal government says dont look at us. So now what . Well be right back. When i received the diagnoses,
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families . Sure, kate. Thank you. And thank you for having me on your show. From the beginning, the government has shown absolute neglect, indifference, and frankly to an extent a sense of abuse of children and families in the sense that its absolutely walked away from any sense of responsibility. Both at the moment of separation and now at the moment of reunification, which is just a moment of trying to heal a deep wound and a deep scar that has been created among families. Our work and we have gone to the government, asked them, petitioned them to do something, to move things forward, to do it more quickly, to do it in a more timely way. As youve reported, theyve essentially said, no, thats really not our job. Theres a process for this. Were going to get to this in time. Talking about the 400 or more families that have been separated with a parent who basically accepted return to their home country, thinking this is almost six weeks ago thinking this would reunify them
with their children more quickly. Thats actually a point of contention with the government. The government attorneys say parents knew they chose to be deported, chose to be deported without their child. Look, knowing and fully understanding what theyre signing are two completely different things. The parents were under the impression and believed and understood that this would facilitate and expedite reunification. In fact, it had the absolute opposite effect. It has slowed down that reunification. Now you have eight children heading home. What are these parents telling you . What are the children telling you . Sure, the parents have been its you know, its been hard connecting with them. Weve had to work with our private resources and with friends at the embassies and Consulate Offices to engage ways of finding where the parents are. You know, they might be from small villages up in the mountains or in the large city. It really varies. But the government has taken no initiative and no responsibility essentially for what would be a safe or sustainable repatriation
of these children. Basically, they say our job is to deliver them across the border. And thats it. So working with partners, we have sought to do what we can to engage those sources on the ground. But again, this is just a small piece of the problem. There are many many kids who still have to appear in court, who still have to make a request for voluntary departure. How many more children are you working with . Its a significant number. The work we do really is engage with the shelters and to an extent, you know, the numbers are changing. So you dont even is it not a firm number . We dont have a full accounting from the government of kids who are still, you know, in that custody and for whom we need to work this through. So this is a shifting, continually shifting problem because we dont have absolute direct access to all of the children who are in custody. We only receive notice and information depending on what the government is willing to share. Some of these kids are very young. Under a year old or 1 or 2 years old. They dont necessarily theyre not necessarily brought to us are you hopeful youll be able to, No Matter What the number ends up being, be able to reunite all the children . Absolutely. Were going to do two things. One, were hopeful. Well keep pressing. Our lawyers will keep presenting to the courts and to the government. You still think you can get more information from the government. We do. Were hopeful. This is something we dont give up on. Do you think theyre Holding Information from you . I dont think so. I think its a process thats been mismanaged. Its been characterized by indifference. This is simply not a priority for the government. As has been the reunification of families in the United States. So beginning this week, Catholic Charities will develop a program to receive those families and give them transitional support as they relocate internally in new york city or other cities in the United States. This is one step in a very long process, but today eight children going to be heading home to their families from new york. Thank you for your time. Thank you very much. Well continue to follow it. Next, coming up, President Trump says outright that his sons meeting with russians at
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