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Newsroom. Im jim acosta in washington. We begin with the breaking news and the surprise outcome of a republican versus republican political fight in the State Of Texas. Attorney general ken paxton is thanking his supporters and slamming what he calls the sham impeachment proceeding against him. Just a few hours ago the state senate voted to acquit paxton on 16 charges of abusing his office to help a donor. The Attorney General says now that the, quote, truth has prevailed he will get back to work defending the Constitutional Rights of texans, so he says. Ed lavandera joins me from the texas state house in austin. Ed, tell us more. Reporter hey, jim. The last few hours as reaction has been pouring in reacting to the acquittal of Attorney General ken paxton, it is exposing what can probably only be described as an allout civil war between various factions of the Republican Party here in texas. As weve mentioned just a short while ago, ken paxton was acquitted by the majority of republican senators in the texas senate on the 16 articles of impeachment that were brought against him. The remaining four were dismissed. So this is from the paxton camp is seen as a fullon vindication and a Resounding Vindication for the embattled Attorney General. Despite all of that, ken paxton is still facing serious legal issues. He still has an upcoming trial for state Financial Securities fraud, a trial that is perhaps could be starting here in the coming weeks. He is under federal investigation with fbi agents stemming from the investigation that brought these articles of impeachment against him. But his attorneys say that this acquittal today should send a strong message to his supporters. He still has the pending state case. I expect that in light of todays verdict to have some serious those people ought to think about Going Forward on that case. Thats been a bs case since day one. That case like this one should have never been brought. They ought to dismiss it. If they dont, well beat them there like we beat them here. The Attorney General is excited and ready to get back to work, and thats what hes going to do. Reporter as ken paxton is saying, outside of the statement he said hes planning to travel to the state of maine next week to interview with tucker carlson. And really what this has exposed, to get into the nitty gritty of the reaction of this, is that after the verdicts were read the republican lieutenant governor, dan patrick, spent several minutes just absolutely with a scathing critique of the House Republicans that brought and voted on these articles of impeachment, and that caused the speaker of the house, dave feelen, to issue a state here this afternoon saying it is clear that this the result of this trial is orchestrated from the getgo, essentially accusing senators of having votes p predetermined before listening to the evidence, and that the voters of texas, in his words were, quote, cheated out of justice. And one of the house Impeachment Managers said that this vote by republicans is essentially condoning corruption at the highest levels. Our lawyers, the board of managers presented overwhelming evidence that ken paxton is the most corrupt politician in the State Of Texas at this time, and the republicans in the texas senate just returned him to the office of top cop. I will rely on what i said on the floor of the texas house good help us. Reporter and jim, so what happens next you know, many of rightwing organizations in texas, political groups, Grassroots Groups that have been supporting Ken Backs Ton have been paxton have been vowing to go after republicans who voted against him. He only got two republican senators to convict him in these charges today, but this is expected to become a very tense situation for republicans, especially in the house, that voted to impeach ken paxton. So it will be interesting to watch Texas Politics in the next couple of years. Jim . All right, ed lavandera, thank you so much. Now to a big win for former President Donald Trump in his quest for the gop nomination and the crucial battleground state of florida. Last night republicans in that state scrapped their own gop Loyalty Pledge which mandated that candidates support the partys nominee. The move by the florida gop is seen as a major defeat for trumps closest rival in his home state, Governor Ron Desantis. This comes during another key battle involving the former president and as federal prosecutors ask for a narrowly tailored gag order on trump citing his social media attacks on people in the case, including the special counsel jack smith. The order would prevent trump from Making Statements that could be considered disparaging and inflammatory or intimidating. Lets go to des moines and jeff zeleny. Just four months away from the Iowa Caucuses. Prosecutors and politicians are having trouble reining in the former president. Reporter jim, there is no question the former President Donald Trump does hold a commanding lead in this republican president ial primary. As you said, four months exactly until the Iowa Caucuses open the republican nominating contest. Every candidate is in iowa this weekend with the exception of the former president. Of course he has a strong lead, but his rivals believe that there is an opening because voters are still making up their minds, they believe. And anecdotally talking to voters, that certainly is the case. Florida Governor Ron Desantis is in the church behind me here. The Fort Des Moines church of christ. Hell be speaking with a group of evangelical voters, and that is a central constituency, of course, in this republican iowa campaign. But earlier today as the Florida Governor was campaigning in western iowa, he made a pointed critique of the age of candidates in the race, as well as a bit of a veiled swipe at donald trump. I dont think the presidency can be successfully discharged by somebody thats 80 years old. This is nothing against 80 im the governor of florida, for petes sake. Ive got a lot of great 80yearolds. We do need a twoterm president , by the way. One lame duck is not going to cut it. Reporter and that twoterm president is something hes been talking about for a while. Of course if donald trump was reelected, he would only be able to constitutionally serve one term. So that is one of the arguments the Florida Governor has been making. But there is no doubt, jim, he and the rest of the republican field have their work cut out for them over the next several months here. There is a gathering of evangelical voters tonight in des moines where all of the candidates, with the exception of donald trump, will be making their case to iowa voters. We will see if the indictments, the charges have any effect on his support. The polls would suggest they have not. But electabilitiy is a central concern in every conversation with iowa voters. The history of iowa shows things can change late in a campaign. History is perhaps not our best guide. This year well see. For now, four months until iowa opens the 2024 campaign. Jim . All right. Jeff zeleny on the trail in iowa for us. Thanks. Great to see you as always. We appreciate it. Joining us with more is mark kaputo, reporter for The Messenger and expert on florida politics. Great to see you. Thanks for doing this. Lets start with Florida Republicans scrapping this loyalty oath. This is a big win for donald trump months before they even start voting in primaries like florida. Right. Its just a show of power and a show of force for trump. He didnt want the loyalty oath they instituted in may. He had his allies, a State Senator who had run afoul of desantis actually, months, maybe years ago, carry his effort to undo this loyalty oath. Desantis people decided to fight it and keep it. So desantis made it a test of wills, and trump cleaned his clock. And one of the difficulties that desantis is having is notching any wins anywhere. Its not happening in the polls in florida or in early states like iowa or nationally. Hes saddled with frequent bad headlines, you know, he had problems with his campaign, had a shakeup, money was tight. And then you have this which is just sort of a symbolic vote. Just a symbolic issue that was only fraught with sort of the emblematic battle between those two guys. And trump won handily at the Grassroots Level in florida. Really sent a message. Mark, it shows yet again that trump can do whatever he wants inside the Republican Party. What does this episode say about the national Republican Partys Loyalty Pledge . I mean, weve said it before about trump, loyalty is a oneway street when it comes to donald trump. Right. The other thing is is like trump doesnt like to be told what to do. He likes to fashion himself as the alpha male. So if a National Party or a state party wants him to do something that he doesnt want to do, hes not going to do it, and hes going to make it a show of force, and hes going to try to win. So far thats happening. One of the things that was interesting is in talking to the Republican Party of florida members who voted to scrap the very loyalty oath that they instituted in may at Donald Trumps behest, was one of the things that changed their mind is one of the things that you were talking about earlier. The indictments of donald trump. In the republican view, especially the grassroots view of the people i spoke, these indictments have produced this kind of rally around the chief or the future chief or the past chief effect. Where they said, look, everyones out to get donald trump, the dojs out to get him, we need back him. Our party cant be seen as fighting him. So thats a good example of how the indictments perversely, ironically, unexpectedly, at least in the primary, have been beneficial to trumps political goals. Now obviously his legal situation is a whole other kettle of fish. And i want to ask but that. Lets talk about the other big development. Federal prosecutors asking the judge in the federal case pertaining to jianuary 6th to place a court order on trump limiting what he can and cant say. Predictably trump reacted on Smoke Detector and in a speech last night social media and in a speech last night. Lets listen to this. They went to court to get an order that i cant speak you got to understand, im the leading candidate by 50 points, and im leading biden by a lot. And they want to see if they can silence me. So the media, the fake news, will ask me a question im sorry, i wont be able to answer that. How do you think we do in that election . Trump is claiming his First Amendment rights are being violated. Its good to hear him standing up for the First Amendment. Thats not always the case. Mark, its hard to see how trump abides by any kind of gag Order Limited or otherwise. Right. I mean, we were just talking a second ago about someone tries to pass a rule or limit him, he endeavors to defeat it. Back in june when he got indicted in the classified documents case in miami, i talked to roger stone who is a friend of his, who was pardoned by trump, who was gagged before his trial. And i asked stone, hey, look, most defendants are told to shut up when they get indicted. Donald trump does the opposite. What do you thinks going to happen . And he basically predicted this. He said trump is going to say what he wants to say, and hes essentially going to dare the federal government to try to gag him to prove that this is a political prosecution and persecution, not a traditional prosecution. Again, thats their perception. But whats instructive about what roger stone said is stone knows the mind of trump. So on one hand this looks completely insane. The other hand, there might be some sort of sick genius at play here. Its one of those debates for people who watch donald trump like is he a master chess player, or is he eating the checkers . You know, were going to find out at the end of both of these, both the primary, the general election, all three of these, and the various criminal cases. But i mean, the chances are, judging by what judge chutkan has said so far, i could see her see this being more likely than not that shes going approve some sort of gag order, and i can see more likely than not donald trump breaking it. But you know, thats justice speculation. Who knows whats going to happen . If you would have told me to 2015 that or before, that a president ial candidate would be indicted four times in four separate cases at state and federal levels and that his Support Level would increase in his party, i would have told you were insane. Thats what were looking at. No question about it. And mark, what are you hearing from sources in florida about whether or not anybody in this field can stop donald trump . And getting back to this florida Loyalty Pledge situation, what does this say about ron desantis . Because ron desantis in just about every poll is the closest republican candidate in polling in terms of being able to take out trump. In his own state finishes the florida Republican Party in his own state isnt going to side with desantis, that says a lot, doesnt it in . Thats one of the reasons that this symbolic vote was so important to both sides, but especially trump and why its mystified people like me that desantis decided to put Skin In The Game by having lieutenant governor, the Florida House speaker, and ally keep the loyalty oath. Another surprising thing was some of the grassroots republicans on the Republican Party of florida executive board, 39member board that voted in favor of stripping the loyalty oath on behalf of trump, a few of them said on the record ron desantis need to drop out of the race and endorse donald trump. All of them did. Its very surprising in a state where ron desantis in 2022 i mean in november, however many months ago, 11 months ago, eight months ten months ago yeah he won this state by almost 20 percentage points. A massive margin. And now hes trailing badly both in his own state and nationwide in early states. Yeah. And theyre bending to donald trump. Theres just no question about it. Whats taking place in florida and other crucial states around the country. Mark, great to see you as always. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. Thanks, jim. I appreciate it. Bye. Thank you. Still ahead, close to striking a deal. That is the question. An update on where talks stand to resolve an unprecedented autoworkers strike. Plus, President Biden facing an Impeachment Inquiry and his son hunter indicted on gun charges. Well ask a member of congress how the president and Democratic Party should navigate all of this. And later on, better luck next year . What quarterback Aaron Rodgers is saying about his seasonending injury and questions over the 39yearolds ability to make a comeback. The legendary bob costas will join us for that discussion. Thats coming up in a little bit. Stay with us. Youre live in the cnn newsroom. Save up to 30 now for a limited time. Whether youre moving g across town or across the country. Save up to 30 at popods. Com today. You were always so dedicated. 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This was between the union and ford who met this morning, and a source with the union told our cnn team, quote, we had reasonably productive conversations with ford today, reasonably productive. Certainly not a deal, jim, but given the hostile words that we have heard between the sides in recent days, reasonably productive is definitely progress here. Ford putting out a statement, as well, saying we have said all along ford has bet on the uaw more than any other company. We are committed to reaching an agreement with uaw that rewards our workers and allows ford to invest in the future. We understand the union was set to meet with stellantis and general motors, as well, today. No word yet on those negotiations. But just yesterday we heard from the head of the Autoworkers Union who said up to this point, 80 of the members s demands, 80 , had not been met by any of the automakers deals, offers, they had put forward. It does seem theres been this big divide. And until those deals are reached, this is what were going to continue to see, picket lines like the one in toledo, out of the stellantis factory. 5,800 on strike here. 13,000 almost 13,000 across the country making just about 500 a week in strike pay. So many have told me they are prepared for the long haul, to strike for as long as it takes. I want to bring in robert here. Robert, youre the Strike Captain for this group. Yes, sir. Reporter first i want to get your take on the news that were just getting this afternoon of at least a little bit of progress in the talks with ford. To be clear you work for stellantis. To hear about the progress between the union and ford, what goes through your mind . I mean, no one winds on a strike, you know. The company doesnt win. We dont win. Were all losing out on money. To hear progress, were all for it. Were all for it. As long as president fain is behind it because were 100 behind president fain. Whatever he can negotiate, we know thats going to be the best contract that were going to get. And were all willing to fight the fight for president fain. Were 1,000 behind him. Reporter why are the workers here in toledo out here . What are the issues that youve seen thats brought you to the picket line . I mean, everyone says, you know, wage, wage, wage. I mean, obviously we all care about our money. The biggest thing is the tiers. Everyone should be on the same pay scale. There shouldnt be someone making, you know, like 15 an hour versus full wage. Everyone should be on the same pay scale. Thats the biggest thing. We dont want any animosity while were all in there making, you know, a prideful part. Reporter thank you so much for your time. Appreciate it. Jim, the head of the Autoworkers Union said it is possible additional facilities will go on strike in the days or weeks ahead depending on progress or lack thereof. And we do know that were starting to see this Ripple Effect with gm and ford announcing 12,600 workers who are going to be laid off in the days ahead separate from the ones on strike because their facilities cant operate as long as these three are on strike. All right, gabe cohen, thank you very much. Appreciate it. In other news, this week republicans took their efforts to impeach President Biden to the next level, bowing to pressure from gop hardliners. House speaker Kevin Mccarthy announced the opening of a formal Impeachment Inquiry into the president s son, hunter bidens, business dealings. Mccarthy cited what he calls allegations of abuse of power, obstruction, and corruption by the president. At least one House Democrat is calling it hypocrisy saying Donald Trumps daughter, eivanka, and soninlaw, Jared Kushner, should be investigated. We have records of a 110 billion arms deal between the u. S. And saudi arabia that was inflated at the direction of Jared Kushner. The grift from this family is breathtaking. Its breathtaking. Jared kushner and Ivanka Walk Out of the white house and get 2 billion from the saudis. The congressman you saw there is Democrat Robert garcia of california. He joins us now to talk about this. Congressman, thanks for being here. If you boiled down the republican argument here on impeachment, where theres smoke theres fire, theres claim theyre claiming theres smoke, they think there may be some fire. What is your substance to that . Your response to that . Look, this Impeachment Inquiry is a total sham. The truth is is that Kevin Mccarthy has completely lost control of his caucus. He has essentially given leadership in his caucus to folks like Marjorie Taylor greene, lauren boebert, and santos. Thats what controls the Republican Caucus. They are driving the agenda. Theres been numerous members within his caucus that have said theres no evidence to link the two. We know that hunter biden did not work in the white house. Hunter biden had no direct Business Relationship with his father when his father was the vice president. Theres been zero evidence, as noted by multiple people, multiple witnesses, folks that have been deposed, that have linked the president to hunter biden. But the hypocrisy is whats really crazy. We have at the same time the kushners and Jared Kushner who received 2 billion for his Investment Firm from the saudis when he was the head of essentially Middle Eastern afirs for the white house, when he was there with his fatherinlaw. Thats what we should be investigating. That right now is the big american scandal. And i know that democrats have been howling about that kushner deal with the saudis ever since the days right after the transition to the Biden Administration when Trump Left Office in disgrace. Have you talked to any republicans even privately in the house who have expressed some solidarity with you on this point, that yes, that doesnt look right either . Yes. Both privately and publicly. Look, james comer, head of the Oversight Committee, even said publicly, i believe on your network, that he thought that this kushner mess probably passed the ethical line. He said that. Its a public record. At the same time, he does not want to launch or really work on getting any sort of subpoena or investigation going. Lets also remember that Jared Kushner from day one was incredibly problematic as it relates to foreign policy. He helped get rid of the secretary of state, rex tillerson, immediately begins doing deals with the saudis. Makes sure that President Trump makes his first visit to saudi arabia, builds this relationship and then now is benefiting in enormous amounts of money. So the link, the information that were seeking is really, really important. The Oversight Committee has a job to do, and lets remember that Jared Kushner and ivanka were in the white house. They actually were employees of the white house. They worked for government. So this is a really important investigation that we think needs to be launched. And jim comer should stick by what he said publicly, and he agrees with us theres an ethical issue here, we should investigate them. And lets say the democrats take control of the house in 2024 and come to power in early 2025, is that something that you would be in favor of investigating . Investigating Jared Kushner and ivanka trump and what took part with the deal with the saudis . We are going to investigate Jared Kushner and ivanka trump. We are going to ideally win back the house. Were committed to that. Weve got the right ideas to do so. Oversight committee, our ranking member, jamie raskin, has been clear this has been a priority. This is a huge scandal that deserves serious investigation. The abuse of power and possible criminal activity here is immense. And so i think we have a responsibility to the American Public to find out why Jared Kushner received 2 billion two months after leaving the white house. And thats a serious issue, and its one that i think were committed to on the Oversight Committee. And congressman, this week we saw hunter biden become the first child of a sitting u. S. President to be indicted. The special counsel, david weiss, charged hunter biden with making false statements on a federal firearms form, lying to federal licenses on those gun dealer licenses. Obviously can come with it serious problems. Do you think these charges harm the president in trying to run for reelection next year . And what do you think do you think hunter biden needs to come out and speak out on some of this . Well, look, i think whats really important is that we let the Justice System and the process play out. No one is shying to shield hunter biden for whatever mistakes hes made and whatever the Justice System ends up deciding. I think thats important. I think everyone including the white house has been pretty clear about that. We should let that process play out. I do not think its going to impact the president or its impacting the president ial all. Hunter biden is a private citizen. Obviously President Biden is a loving father, and this whole situation is very different considering hunter biden never worked in the white house. Theres no link there. And theres been zero evidence, as we know, linking the two. As far as what hunter says to the public, thats really up to him, you know, and his process. I hope that the Legal Process plays out. And just all that interest that folks have in hunter biden quite frankly republicans should not be hip critical and have that level of interest on whats what theyre doing in the white house. For the house inquiry, might we see Democrats In The House put together a war room, do you ramp up the way you talk about that investigation, that inquiry . Well, first i trust our leader in the house, hakeem jeffries. Hes done a great job of being a spokesperson for the house. At the end of the day, i think everyone understands that this Impeachment Inquiry is essentially political stunt to help get donald trump elected. Marjorie Taylor Greene has said as much. She is linking essentially this just insane possibility of a Government Shutdown which would hurt so many people across this country to impeaching President Biden. So this has been a political stunt from day one. They telegraphed that already to the public. Theyre out there linking not just Marjorie Taylor greene, folks like matt gaetz, linking Kevin Mccarthy Acting On Impeachment to the Government Shutdown. And so its its both laughable and sad that this is where the modern day Republican Party in the house is at this point. And its because Kevin Mccarthy, unfortunately, has no control over his caucus. So that is what were now seeing, essentially the Marjorie Taylor greene Republican Caucus in congress. But democrats are prepared. Well continue to put out the truth, push back whenny when weo and shut down the Government Shutdown. Well be talking about that in the days to come. Hopeful we can have you come back and talk about that. Thank you so much for your time. We appreciate it. All right. Still ahead, a new legal filing claims the Border Patrol is separating children as young as 8 from families while in custody. What a Juvenile Care Monitor says he saw when visiting a facility earlier this summer. Well talk about that in a few minutes. Ah morning. The golden hour of cold and flu symptoms. Im feeling better. Cough . Congestion . All in one and done with new Mucinex Kickstart. Ah hated at. Better. Ah fever . Body pain . Better now. Aaaaah new Mucinex Kickstart gives all in one and done relief with a morning jolt of instant cooling sensation. Its not cold and flu season. 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We should note here, jim, this is different from what happened under the Trump Administration where families were separated, in some cases parents deported without their children. That is not what is happening here. But what this filing detailed overnight is instances captured by a pediatrician who was interviewing children, children separated from their parents after being apprehended at the u. S. Mexico border, and undergoing processing. Some of those children as young as 8 years old. Now Border Patrol officials shared that it was because of overcrowding. So these facilities have Holding Areas for families, single adults, and unaccompanied children. And when one of those Holding Areas are overcrowded or just crowded, they have to put the Children Together with children to avoid, for instance, a situation where children are with single adults. But either way, this pediatrician, this monitor, was calling this, quote, profoundly traumatic for children. Now in a statement, u. S. Customs and Border Protection spokesperson said the following, quote, the health and safety of individuals in our custody, our work force, and communities we serve is paramount. Going on to say that dhs and cvp prioritize keeping Families Together at every step of the Immigration Process and have protocols to that end. But jim, the handling of the u. S. Mexico border has been a delicate issue for president joe biden. And over the course of the last few weeks, numbers have increased including families. All of this making it increasingly difficult for officials on the border. Jim . All right, Priscilla Alvarez, keep us posted on that very important story. Thank you very much. In the meantime, a player for the Minnesota Vikings shares the racist messages sent to him after his team lost to the Philadelphia Eagles this week. Can the nfl do something about this . Legendary broadcaster bob costas is here to talk about that and more next. Neutrogena® hydro boost lightweight. 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On friday the 39yearold had this message to those who believe his nfl career may be over so give me a give me your doubts, give me your prognostications, and then watch what i do. You trying to say youre coming back this season . Whats happening . You coming back for the playoffs this year . Im not going to make any of those statements. I dont feel thats fair to myself. Im just is it a possibility . I think as Kevin Garnett said, anythings possible. Wow. Oh. Wow. All right. Hall of fame broadcaster bob costas joining us now. Bob, is that some Wishful Thinking on his parts . It was suggested by the other guys, by mcafee and the other guys, he didnt reject it but didnt exactly embrace it. This is basically a year recovery. So the best hope is that hes ready to go opening day next season. An Achilles Injury is difficult. A couple of things he does have going for him here. A, hes Aaron Rodgers. B, surgical techniques have improved, theyre less invasive, and hell have the most sophisticated possible rehab regimen. And hes a determined athlete. Think kobe bryant, who, a, was younger, in his 30s when he suffered an Achilles Injury. And basketballs a different sport. But a lot of people wrote him off, and he was so determined. So i wouldnt say that Aaron Rodgers cant do it. The other important thing is this the injury is to his left achilles. Hes a righthanded quarterback. He plants on his right leg when he throws. So if it had been his right leg, it would be even more serious than what this one is. And you know, bob, i dont know if you saw, this but the former White House Communications director who famously lasted less than two weeks in the Trump White House had this to say about Aaron Rodgers Aaron Rodgers lasted one 1,584th of a scaramucci. Thats not mucch or much. He had a good one there. Funny for the mucch. Not for jets fans. When is it funny for jets fans . Never. Is it time to hang up the cleats for Aaron Rodgers, honestly . No. I wouldnt say so. Could it be Career Ending . Yes. Does age complicate advanced athletic age, that is, 39 is young in any other walk of life, does advanced athletic age complicate the recovery . Sure, it does. But hes Aaron Rodgers, and he wants to play. And he has more history to make in his own mind. I wouldnt bet against him. Yeah. And the nfl players union, bob, is renewing its call for replacing Artificial Turf with real grass following this injury. What did you make of that . Could the turf be part of this . It could be. I wouldnt say it was in this instance. J. K. Dobbins, running back, the same weekend, week one, was injured, an Achilles Injury. That occurred on natural turf. About half the stadiums in the league are synthetic, and half are natural. The green bay facility at lambeau field, which is said to be one of the best surfaces in the league, is a hybrid. Mostly natural, but a little bit of synthetic. The Nfl Players Association wants it 100 natural, including practice facilities, and there is a lot of data that says that especially noncontact injuries in other words cutting, planting your feet, jumping rather than contact that especially those injuries are more likely to occur and more likely to be severe on synthetic surface than on natural grass. If youre an owner, you say, wait a minute, Synthetic Turf which has improved dramatically since the days of multipurpose stadiums for football and baseball in eight 70s and 80s when the Artificial Turf was laid over literal concrete, and that was completely unacceptable. The synthetic surfaces are much better and have more give than they used to have, but theyre not generally as good as energy grass. Say youre metlife stadium, right, the giants played there on sunday and the jets played there on monday, and there was heavy rain in between. Synthetic surface is better in that sense. And a lot of these stadiums are used for other purposes soccer games are played there, high school games, college games, or a concert. Say you have a piece of the stadium and you want to put taylor swift there or rihanna or whatever it might be or beyonce, thats a lot of money. And Synthetic Turf makes it easier to transition to nonfootball events. So theres going to be some pushback from ownership, but the nfl p. A. Is insistent they want all facilities, practice and game facilities, to be natural grass. Interesting. I wanted to ask you about this, bob, because its another Sign Of The Times and just so ugly despite the progress that weve made in professional sports. Minnesota vikings running back Alexander Solchristmases Receiv madison received messages to kill himself. He shared two screen shots and took them down and responded on instagram saying i really could care less, but this blank is unacceptable, really reflected on wtf you say and how it could affect someone. Under the helmet, i am a human, a father, a son. This is sick. You know, we still have a long way to go in society, dont we, bob . Yeah. This is vile, its loathesome. You cant overstate the level of condemnation. But we also should say this the number of people who act like this which cant be discounted, is greatly exceeded by the number of people who are revolted by it and condemn it, including most fans and certainly everybody within the league. But youve got a witchs brew of factors now. For all the wonders of the internet and some of the positives of social media, social media is open to every creep and cretin on the planet. And when you yourself have an Instagram Account or Facebook Facebook is different, but say twitter, you open the door to these clowns, clowns is too kind for these vile racists, you open the door for them to respond to you directly. Its one thing if they have their own twitter account. They can respond to you directly if you open that door. And then we have legalized gambling and Fantasy Leagues coupled with all the fanaticism and craziness of the worst elements of fans who are upset now that the vikings are 02, and mattison fumbled against the eagles. You put those together and its a witchs brew of factors and opens the door to some of the worst elements. Yeah. And fans, i dont know maybe and fans, i feel like fan behavior is getting worse, not better, and the person who sent this is obviously a loser, but were just seeing more and more ugliness in the stands, and people just need to understand this is a game, and i know that the poetry you put to it makes it a lot more fun to cover and watch and witness, bob. But at the same time, it is incumbent upon fans to act like grownups, act like human beings. Yeah, we got a crisis in civility in the culture in general, but in sports, you got large crowds, and its all televised, and people act out, and they have been encouraged to act out by the internet and other factors, what they see and hear on cable tv and whatnot. Its almost sanctioned, at the very least tolerated and in some cases, sanctioned to act upon our worst impulses. Yeah, well, bob, great as always to talk to you. Thank you so much, appreciate it. Hope to get you back soon. Have a good weekend. You too. Bye bybye. Thanks. Be right back. A chow w down day. A take a big bite day. A perfectly delicious day. Mm. [ chuckles ]. A love my new teeth day. Because your clearchoice day is the day everything is back on the menu. A clearchoice day changes every day. Schedule a free consultation. Only at vanguard youre more than just an investor youre an owner. That means your priorities are ours too. Our Retirement Tools jusand advicetor youre an owner. 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