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Tonight. I was very impressed with steyer. There was something for everybody here tonight. What you walk away does this change the dynamic of the caucus in three weeks . No, not at all. If im joe biden and Bernie Sanders, good night tonight. Warren should have come back on the issue did he say it or didnt say it, this is an opportunity for her to hit it hard and she missed that opportunity. Check in with chris cuomo, standing by, chris . All right, of course were listening to you all here, anderson, its so interesting to get all of these different perspectives on what happened. I think the consensus, though, is that this was not the type of night of ambition we expected. Then the big question becomes, well, why . You have two possibilities. One is the scared never wins, hold your fire, everybody up there is popular and you dont want to hurt yourself this close before the caucuses. Okay. But the second perspective is you have to go for it at a certain point to distinguish yourself from your competitors and remember what every democrat is looking for and why you see this bottleneck at the top and people moving back and forth, three, four people within the margin of error, who is the right one to beat trump . That speaks to a big ambition. To a boldness. Someone who can take on, arguably, the most fierce campaigner weve seen in a generation. The question becomes why did they play it this way tonight . I have dana bash and david chalian, cant get better minds than this. First of all, am i totally off . Loaded question. I know. The idea that this was a chance, this was your last fling before the caucus, wu saw no one swing big. Absolutely. I do think you were dead on about the stakes being so high but i actually was it fiery . Could you feel the crackling in here . No. But if you are a caucus goer thinking who do i like, im a little torn, i just want to hear what they believe on the issues i care about, youve got that tonight, particularly on an issue that we have heard almost nothing about until tonight and that is foreign policy, given the fact that things are so different now with what happened in iran than they were just a couple of weeks ago. And thats the beauty of having you here, david, is that you can help us weave in the what people want to hear at this stage, what they heard tonight, what did you see . I agree. I dont think anything really changed tonight in this race and i agree that caution was the most active participant on the stage and i think theres a reason why. It is those rules that are particular here in iowa, where that second choice can really matter and so its a calculation, if you go after somebody you may be rolling out their supporters. Whats the difference between the straight vote gnat caucus . You gather for a meeting in your community at a local school or library and you have to get 15 of the participants in that caucus to earn delegates. If you do not get 15 in that precinct, and there are over, you know, a thousand precincts in the state, more than that, you your supporters then have the opportunity in a second round of alignment and preference to go to someone else. Its a very careful consideration about sort of going after an opponent whose supporters you very well may need to woo if they fall short. That has something to do with it, the specificity of iowa. But also there is a concern that, as you noted, the party is looking for a trump defeater at all costs. And so theyre not all that eager in seeing these folks try to take each others face off. Although i think only senator klobuchar spoke very directly to the task of the president and what he presents. Sure, everybody touches on it tangentially with some now kind of canned lines they have, stock and trade lines, but the moment of the night had nothing to do with that, Elizabeth Warren anticipating how to deal with sanders and their wires crossed. She took the moment, how and what did it mean for her . It was look, it was an out of the park moment. She clearly had it planned, probably almost to the word. And she delivered it. She executed it. And the it is what they clearly inside the Warren Campaign had in mind for the past probably 24 or 48 hours, which is the fact that she is the most viable woman in that list of the top four, particularly here in iowa. Shes the most viable, the only woman in the top four. And so she is trying to use that moment and explain why, not just a woman, but her as the woman in that position should be really seriously considered and it was a clever way of doing it because she also brought in the other woman on the stage, almost a sister in solidarity. Klobuchar thanked her. Saying people in the last 30 years have beaten an incumbent republican. She said none of these guys he didnt let it go. Right after it was her way of saying im moving past bernie onto the main proposition here, politically whether people think it was a setup from the warren up organically, kind of weird, it happened a while ago. But she does it a bernie gets in there and says i did beat an incumbent republican in 1990. And warren says, yeah, that was 30 years ago. And he goes right. So then im right. And it was kind of weird, david. He did not need to say that. It was weird. I didnt catch it. We made some video of it. But i see twitter commentary, that they exchanged words at the end of the debate, sanders and warren. Nice words or not nice . Well take a closer look at the video put it looked like they had some exchange once the debate was over. Interesting to learn what that is. Im curious to see if theyre ready to move on. They clearly didnt want to battle tonight. No handshake. Look, that is an interesting thing because, again, anderson, theyre in the same lane. So what was the nature of that discussion . Does it good natured and lets move forward, or is it what dana tends to see, if you get in my key light, ill throw you over the railing, if that was that kind of discussion at the end of the debate. Its a very different meaning. I think i also may have told you that a couple times. Chris, well come back to you shortly. Back with the folks here. David, interesting to see that exchange at the end. Well, you know, one thing that was left unresolved in their exchange was this what actually happened and i actually thought i thought in the debate she handled it well because there was nothing to be gained by saying no, youre lying, you did say it and she turned it to her advantage. I thought that was fine. But clearly lets play that video. Very, very hard feelings about the whole thing. This is not warm and cuddly. Poor tom steyer. Look, it seems to me that first of all they didnt shake hands. She clearly had a point she wanted to make. She had a point she wanted to make tonight, which was about gender and people in iowa, all around the state, and of course all around the country are saying can a woman beat donald trump . But it seems to me that they didnt resolve what was said at their meeting. And she wasnt happy about it. Yeah. And you can see that and clearly she wanted to do it during the debate but after the debate. She should have done it during the debate. You are running for president of the United States of america. This is the last shot you have. You take every opportunity to fire everything you have. People are paying attention. Theyre not following this daytoday. Many she says they tuned into this debate this might have been the first time they heard about it and i also disagree that, well, people didnt go after each other because, oh, they wanted the people to move over for second place. Come on. People have to win this caucus because if you dont win then you may not be going on. Are they afraid of joe biden . What is it . They didnt attack joe biden. I think the top four were only a point apart, biden didnt want to get into it, bernie was fine with it. Amy klobuchar, she did, tom steyer is not going to do it. I think the top four felt they were very close and we dont need to get into it and come out with a draw on the top four, see how our Field Operation works. Warren has been careful in the way shes emphasized gender, she tends to couch it in terms of other women in American History who have broken through against challenges rather than talking about herself. In this case, i dont think that the appeal to women is Bernie Sanders said a bad thing. I think the appeal to women is, women win elections, despite this widespread idea we somehow cant win elections. Dont forget sanders was criticized how we treated Hillary Clinton. That was the whole point. Elizabeth warren hurled a grenade into Bernie Sanders when that story leaked and she confirmed it. It stirred the embers of what happened four years ago, still bitter feelings about whether he was adequately supportive of Hillary Clinton and all the damage he had done to her leading into the election. And this brought all that back and lets not kid ourselves. Youre talking about how people should play hardball, that was a hardball move. And also women get punished if they play hardball all the way. Really . So i think that what she did was extraordinary. But what i love about Elizabeth Warren in those moments, she never stopped being the educator in chief. She didnt just say, listen, im a woman, i can do it, she made the case that women have been winning in the trump era. She used the moment well. But that was progressive to see those two have that level of vitriol was very disspiriting. Tonight for me was disspiriting. Democrats have to do better. Nothing i saw tonight that would be able to take donald trump out. If youre looking at this thing, did any of these people, prepared for what donald trump is going to do for us . I want to go chris cuomo, standing by with pete buttigieg. A lot of intrigue. Were with one of the participants up there, mayor pete buttigieg. Good to see you, happy new year. What did you think of the stage tonight . It was an opportunity to get our message out with three weeks to go. My focus was not relitigating debates from the past, but talking about the future, how do we turn the page in order to win and beat donald trump and in order to govern . Those two go hand in hand. What lights up rooms when im talking to voters across iowa and everywhere we go and asking them to envision that first day after we send donald trump into history and actually have to bring this country together to get big things done. This is a chance to talk about that for a lot of issues, i wish we could have gotten to that hopefully well touch in other debates but i really valued the opportunity to get out there and share thfuture oriented vision. I expected more points of comparison, 20 days until go time at the caucus. What was the calculation in terms of nows my movement, i have to make a move on her or him or both of them now . My focus was to make sure that my message was coming through. Ours is a winning message. Its clearly res natding with voters, improbable campaign over the course of the last year would never have been able to get here. This was an opportunity, especially in contrast that anybody who felt pressure to refight old battles from washington to talk about where were headed going forward. Two quick points. Iran is a new variable. We did not see this coming in. You have a perceived strength and weakness. The strength is, youre the only veteran up there, you worked in intelligence, you understand the region. How do you sell people on the idea that your strength outweighs your weakness, which is youre young, you havent been in the position of whether or not to pull that type of mission that we just saw with soleimani. How do you sell that . When it comes to National Security the next president is going to face completely new challenges from the kinds of proxy wars, to cybersecurity threats and climate security threats, yes, i bring a perspective from having served in uniform and that will never leave me in the situation room and i also bring a focus on what lies ahead. Im ready to engage our partners. We need to form new connections with leaders in order to move past this moment that donald trump has brought us to, restore american credibility and keep this country safe. A theory about why you see so much changing at the top now, youve entered in, which is very ambitious for you and your campaign, wasnt expected obviously, but the reason you see the movement is that no one is sold on which one of you beats trump. And i know that starts to sound like a tired question, but obviously nobodys answered it to the satisfaction of the party. What is the answer to that question and why do you think it hasnt been a satisfactory answer thus far . Part of what i had the opportunity to discuss tonight, the economy. I actually belong to the middle class and from the communities he talks about and then lets down again and again. When he says something to you that rhymes with pete, i dont know what hell come up with, that is a relevant thing. I get im not going to be like him, the only guy ive ever seen that makes Bernie Sanders laugh. When bernie hears what the president has said about him, theres a charisma that gets conveyed when its crass and crude and ugly and something that has to be combatted so that you are more persuasive than he to this same group of people. The key is to realize that we cant meet him on equal and opposite terms. I think his power not sure id call it charisma, but the power he has to change the subject by doing something outrageous or disgusting. We have to be ready to confront is behavior and correct his lies but always come back to the question that every election is about, the voters question, how is my life going to be different if its you, president , instead of you. We have the better answers on those questions, making sure people get paid more, longterm care, making sure we get paid family leave to keeping this country safe. We have to make sure the president doesnt deny us the opportunity to speak to that. You told chris that you were happy to be able to talk about things on foreign policy, in particular that werent fighting the battles of the past but considering the fact that you and joe biden are likely going after similar kinds of voters here in iowa, do you think its okay how he voted on the iraq war, and more importantly how he explained it tonight . I disagreed with the iraq war and i think that that vote was a mistake. Ive been clear on that. Does it disqualify him . Its an example of a difference between experience and judgment. Voters have to decide. If youre looking for the candidate with the most years in washington, the most time spent on capitol hill, youve got a clear choice and im not going to be your candidate. I also think we are where we are partly because of a sense of frustration with the inability of washington to solve our problems and thats where im offering a different perspective, whether thats National Security, partly because i was sent to war by one of those decisions made in the white house, or the perspective of the kind of community i belong to. Ask you one question on the woman issue that came up with Elizabeth Warren. Because i remember after the last debate you were kind of the guy who understood that the two women said when they were asked about would you give a gift or what did you do wrong, what do you apologize for, the women said theyd apologize. You have a good sensibility of that. Given that, what was your take on what happened with Elizabeth Warren and how she kind of tried to take the conversation that she says she had with Bernie Sanders and take it to another level . I think the right point to make, and many candidates made it tonight, is that a woman should be president of the United States right now and got far more votes than donald trump. Of course a woman can win the president and i of course its also true that sexism has been a force in our politics that needs to be fought. Mayor buttigieg, you may disagree with me, but it seems to me you need iowa perhaps more than anyone else and im wondering, just because of what youre saying, the proof point that chris is asking about, about telling democratic voters, showing them i can win and be the trump defeater, one way to do that is to actually win in iowa because you are lesser known, that truth may not be for biden or sanders. Do you feel you have to come in first place to catapult your candidacy forward. We have to do well in iowa. The best way to demonstrate you can win is to do well, to win. And what we see here in iowa is the opportunity to do that. Look, this election is just different from every other election so of course each of us will point to our records for evidence that we can win but weve also got to look forward and think about the unique, i mean, historically unique, first ever, kind of president that were dealing with now. Think about what its going to take to compete with him and we need to demonstrate and iowa is our first chance to do it, that we can pull together enough voters to come along with us who share that vision of a better day, turning the page and not getting stuck into that endless loop that has so many people, watching this exhausting process in washington, switching it all off, taking it into our own hands and the Iowa Caucuses are the first moment on the calendar when we get to do that. Does doing well mean coming in first . We need to do very well and thats what were working toward doing. If coming in first isnt doing very well i dont know what is, maybe second depending whos around you, you want to do well, but you dont want to set up a bar that you dont make. Thats reflective of what we saw tonight. Everybody knows they have to make a move but its close enough where theres such an interesting calculus going on of i dont want to offend, her people or his people upset at me, because they may wind up being my people. Interesting contrast from our president. Our president has never done that, never chosen nice as a way to win. Mr. Mayor, thats why its interesting to watch you and talk to you about whats going through your mind as youre making the positions you are. Thank you for joining us tonight. Happy new year to you and your husband. Good luck going forward. A lot more to talk about. Anderson is going to have senator Amy Klobuchar next and well go through all the players and all the implications. Stay with cnn. 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I also had that chance to explain why i think theres a problem with the free college for wealthy kids, which is what bernie and elizabeth are putting forward i dont think is a good idea were much better off to help people with the dignity of work so they get the benefits they need and look bigger at our whole economy and i would like to make the electability argument more. This is the last debate before iowa goes to caucus. Did you feel the pressure of that . Did you feel that did you go into this wanting to engage more . A lot of people were expecting more yes, i wanted to engage more, absolutely. One of the things i didnt get to talk about was the fact that while a lot of people have talking points how they can win, i have the receipt. I have done it time and time again with highest voter turnout in the country when i lead the ticket, including in the cities, plus winning the counties that are just like these 31 counties in iowa that barack obama won and then donald trump turned out to win. I think we need a candidate that actually can bring in independents, moderate republicans as well as the fired up democratic base. I didnt get the chance to debate that with mayor pete or anyone else but i think its not just talking points. You should be able to show your receipts. The question between senator warren and senator sanders about what occurred in the room. They didnt invite me. You werent in the room but did you did you want to challenge did you think about challenging senator sanders at all . I think you were i dont know what happened in that room. And they are disputing it and im not going to get involved in that fight but im got my own to wage. But i have made this point before, is that a woman can win the white house. A woman can beat donald trump. And i think thats the fundamental issue that i was that we should talk about and the fact that i have won overwhelmingly with men in my own state. Will these guys that voted for donald trump vote for a woman . Ive got the receipts, ive done it. They want to know, well, is a woman tough enough to take on donald trump on the debate stage . They always have that image in their heads. Theyve told me of that moment in the debate with Hillary Clinton, and by the way in my mind she won every one of those debates, but when he was hulking over her. They think about that all the time. So i think it is the fact that we have two women on the stage, both of us showing that we can debate, that were strong, that were not going to take any grief from these guys. I think thats really important. And if anything we accomplished that. Senator warren has backed away from her im with bernie on medicare for all. Yes, well i pointed that out, yes. Yes. She has, shes on the bill and as i pointed out it kicks 1 149 Million People off their current insurance. Shes on the bill but now she says she doesnt want to do it in four years, wants to wait longer than that and i would have loved to have gone back and forth. We didnt have that opportunity. Maybe we will at the next debate. Do you think its hurt democrats at all to be focused so much during this campaign so far on this medicare for all issue, rather than talking about donald trump and preexisting conditions. I agree, yes. Why didnt anybody talk about that tonight . No, no, no, i actually said this isnt real. You have to point it out. They wont stop asking about it. Its not real when twothirds of the democrats in the senate are not on his bill. Its not real when you have a bunch of those new congressional members that put nancy pelosi and the speaker not for medicare for all. What we should be talking about is the damage donald trump is doing to our countrys health care, yes, and that was pointed out by a number of people but also people, what theyre really interested in, Mental Health care, addiction, longterm care that i brought up at length, im telling you they want to build on the Affordable Care act, dont want to tear it down. In the last bit you went after pete buttigieg, a pretty effective attack. You have not gone after biden. You and biden are occupying the same space with centrist voters. I have made it clear that he and i are not the same, he and i differed on the iraq war, i was against it and also im from the midwest, the Vice President is not from the midwest. Thats where we need to win in states like wisconsin, ohio, and minnesota that was close last time. Im a new generation, not as young as mayor pete, 59 is the new 37, something i wanted to say on the debate stage but im a new generation of leaders and i think that thats important as well because people are tired of this guy in the white house and they want something new, a fresh face, a new leader. Some would argue he is the guy running strongest in these midwestern states. But getting back to your point before in the one state where they know me, and i will acknowledge they dont know like they know joe biden, when they do know me i beat donald trump more in my own state. For the senate. No, i beat him in a poll a month ago, more than joe biden, and i do better with men against donald trump. That maybe goes to my question. But do you not believe first of all, is it different when someone whos running for president and running for the senate and do you not believe that there is a problem with gender bias in this country . I think that it has changed over time. Youve had women governors in texas, like ann richards. Women governors in michigan, as i pointed out and governor kelly in kansas. Youve had women mayors, Police Chiefs and i think its changed. There is something about the presidency, i keep pointing out the height issue. I dont know what it is. But theres something about it where people have to step back and realize that around the world women have legs and women can do this and, in fact, if you want to think about donald trump who beats him every day, nancy pelosi . I just think that a woman is actually the best candidate to run. Hillary clinton lost to donald trump among noncollege educated white women by 27 points in 2016. Why do you think that is . I think a lot of it had to do with campaign that at the end he literally, and i dont hold her responsible for this at all, he literally dominated everything. He distracted people with his tweeted, went after people and everyone kept going down the rabbit hole with him. I want to stay on an optimistic agenda for this country and weve learned that and i also think you have to ignore him at times, cant be distracted by him and you have to use humor, you have to make fun of him because he makes fun of everyone around him. Youve got 20 days left. Youve got jury duty now. Yeah, jury duty, thats the next thing. And youre going to be in washington quite a bit over the next 20 days. Youre obviously not in the top tier yet. Do you think im strongly number five, as everyone has left the race, not in there. Free alcohol . Senator klobuchar, thank you. Appreciate it. Much more to come on who made the best case for the white house. Our coverage continues. burke at farmers insurance, weve seen almost everything, so we know how to cover almost anything. Even a gold medal grizzly. sports announcer what an unlikely field in this final heat. Hang on. Youre about to see history in the making. burke not exactly a skinny dipper, but we covered it. 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In our last poll before this debate, 60 of the Democratic Caucus electorate said they could change their mind or havent decided. Ha is the largest share of movable voters at this stage in many cycles. The fluidity is there. I would imagine well see it change. I just dont think anything that occurred tonight is going to move the needle. It raised the bar to be a bit more aggressive in the final few weeks to really make a Closing Sales pitch to voters. I dont think they seized the opportunity to do that tonight. Tip of the hat to david axelrod. With impeachment. Calling it jury duty. How big a deal is jury duty for klobuchar, sanders and warren. Which will obviously leave buttigieg and mr. Steyer. Yang and who else wasnt on the stage and joe biden. Is it a bigger opportunity for them because the others will be sequestered . Or is it more chance to screw up. Or both. It could be both. No matter how you spin it, i heard senator klobuchar say my husband will be on the trail. My daughter. I have all the people who endorsed me. Maybe. Maybe thats true. Its not the same as having the candidate. Especially someone like her. Who you talk about the mayor about how important iowa is to him. Its really important to her to stay in the race. Shes the senator next door. She is somebody who has made up some ground here from being really low in the poll. Im a solid fifth. By being here and really making personal connections the old fashion way. For senator sanders and senator warren, it might be a bit different because they have such huge campaigns. They are such national figures. It might not hurt them as much. On the flip side it could help buttigieg. Who is going to be here. Never mind the former Vice President. One of the interesting things that were seeing happen in in democratic primary. This kind of tension not so much among the candidates or not enough. In terp terms of distinguishing themselves. What do you want out of this process . Earlier it was the purity test. Healthcare and a president who said gifl you the plan after the plex. Who is saying hes saved preexisting conditions. He seeps to get it. Which is not true. Theyre suing right now to get rid of the aca and preexisting conditions. And the gop asked that court not to try the case until after the vote. Its so obvious what they want to do. They know they have to conceal the true intention. Truth aside, people think its too crass to say this is about beating trump. But it is. Having grown up in politics and seeing so much campaigns. A lot unsuccessful. Thats the question. At the end of the day for the policy and the message, the metric has to be this will win. Has to be. Tonight joe bidens best moment according to to hearing the people that i respect here, was his closing. Heres some of it. Character is on the ballot. This time around. The american character is on the ballot. Not what donald trump is spewing out. The hate. The racism. Thats not who we are as a nation. Everyone in the country is entitled to be treated with respect and dignity. Every solitary person has to have in a position that we treat them with decency. Its about fundamental basic decency. We in the United States of america can put up with over come four years of donald trump. Eight years of trump will be an absolute disaster and change the nation. We have to restore americas soul. It is in jeopardy under this president of the United States. We lead the world when we lead by example. Not by our power. We have to regain the respect of the world in order to be able to change things. Ladies and gentlemen, we are in a position we have to remember who we are. This is the United States of america. Theres not a single they think beyond our capacity to do if we do it together. Lets go do it. Now. Why play bidens. Hes the front runner most of the time. Not in iowa. But overwhelmingly. They say this is his best moment. Does that win . Potentially because this is why joe biden has been steadily at the top. Nationally its gone there are other people have gone in and out. Hes been there. Top democrat said to me that joe biden has the chicken soup appeal. He has whats going to make everybody feel sick feel better. That was the chicken soup speech. And that is really what he is banking on. If he can do that and people listen to that and take that in, thats what hes going for. Electability and beating trump and feeling better about the country is what democrats want. Thats it. One of the big surprises about the biden is the resiliency. This is why. You understand this better than most. The most successful candidates are the ones that are closing their campaign with the same message they opened it with. Consistently. A closing statement that eight months ago he launched with. It has been consistent through. Which is why hes proven to be resilient. In this campaign. Because had gets to the key core fundamental desire among democrats. Having assurance the person they choose has the best shot at defeating trump. Thats the only one that matters. Which man or woman gives this party the best chance of getting out this president who they describe as a threat. 20 days before the caucus. Well come back to you shortly. Im joined by tom steyer. Consistency. You have been consistent in your message throughout the entire time you have been running. First of all, how did you feel tonight went for you and for the democrats . I thought it was a good debate. I thought i got a chance to actually answer the question that chris cuomo just posed. Which is who can beat donald trump. I think you all know mr. Trump is running on the economy, he has nothing else. And he said last week im sure everybody here knows that he said the american israel conference, amazingly, you dont like me, and i dont like you. Youre all going fo vote for me because you know if the democrats get control theyll destroy the economy in 15 minutes. Whoever is going to be the democratic nominee and going to beat trump is going to have to go after him on the economy. Hes fake. He was a fake business person, he was a business person on a reality tv show. That argument arent you making an argument for mayor bloomberg . Im very different from mike bloomberg. I really am. Im a progressive. I have said if mike wants to represent the democratic party, hes got to embrace a wealth tax. Theres something really unequal that is happened in this country that is unacceptable. If you want to lead the Democrat Party the party of the people. You have to address that inequality. Particularly if youre really rich. So my point is i built a business from scratch. Mr. Trump beat 16 conventional republican candidates in the primary. Easily. And then beat the best prepared democrat in history who had been first lady. U. S. Senator. And secretary of state. He has been tweeting about you tonight. He said that you can run out of money. Steyer is running loan cash. He made his money on coal. So funny. I dont know if its a genius or the president is zero in on perceived weaknesses of candidates. I dont think weakness is your money. Youre okay with that. You did make money in fossil fuel. And that is the base of the money you made. Thats not true. We invested in every part of the economy. Including fossil fuel. You made money in fossil fuel. And i divested from those a decade ago. I took the giving pledge. Essentially what hes saying, you made money in fossil fuel. And cashed out. And youre look. Everybody in the United States has to move away from a fossil fuel based economy. Thats what were talking about. I did it a decade ago. Im asking everybody you moved away after making a butt load of money. Its hypocritical. I divested. I took the giving pledge. Every Single Person in the country grew up in a fossil fuel economy. Including me. Not everybody invested in it and promoted it. And reap the benefits of it. Every person did and every person needs to move away. I have spent a decade fighting climate. Its amazing trump would go after me. This is the fourth time. He doesnt know me. I actually view that as i dont take it seriously. If hes paying attention hes scared. He should be scared. I want to show the video at the end of the debate. You were in the middle of this. By chance or what. What was that like . What occurred there. Its already being talked about a lot. I was just going up to say good night. Senators. I felt like okay, theres something going on. Good night. Im out of here. What they were arguing about . I really wasnt listening. What . How can you not hear Bernie Sanders . Getting together or something. I didnt listen. Last year . They looked like they were getting together. I really. It was one of the awkward moments. I need to move on. I felt that for you. You could see its awkward moment. So my goal was to say good night to two people who i respect. The last thing is get in between the two and listen in. That was not the goal, i didnt do it. A lot can happen in 20 days. Here in iowa you have made great progress according to some polls in nevada and South Carolina. Not so much here in iowa. Where youre in the Single Digits. Is there any point at which you will get out of the race if youre not successful in suck siding races or are you in this to the end . I think i can win this. I think in iowa . I can win this race. My goal is simply to get in front of as many people and tell them im different from everybody else. I have a different message. I can take on mr. Trump and beat him on the economy. Hes a fake. These polls you know from history they can really move. 60 of early primary voters dont know who theyre voting for. It will move away. Youre expecting to do well in iowa . I expect the polls to move a lot. If you look at today or yesterday. It moved a lot. In my favor. Im curious, why do you think youre doing well in South Carolina . Youre in double digits and rising. What do you think you have as a business guy or whatever it is doing so well in South Carolina . Im giving the exact same message where ever i go. In South Carolina we have a will the of people on the ground. Im a grass roots person. We have the most people on the ground in South Carolina. My message of broken government bought by corporations that i have been fighting for ten years. Climate is my number one priority. And i have the economic experience and expertise to beat trump and talk about growth. The same message everywhere i go. It resonates everywhere. I thought you had a great debate. Congratulations. You have been out on Climate Change for a long time. Full disclosure. You were helpful to me when i ran for governor. In virginia. People say he came in late and wants to buy this thing. How do you answer the question about a billionaire coming in late in the race like bloomberg, what do yo say to the democratic activists. Hes coming in trying to buy the race . I think this comes down to message. I think everybody is sitting here listening to see who is going to tell the truth about whats going on. Who is credible. Who can win. And who is trustworthy. To me its a question of the anyone who can do that, that is the hurdle to jump over. Im not a famous person. I dont have a famous name. I think when people hear what i have to say and who i am, they can see i really am different from every single other person on the stage. You are infamous. You ran ads on impeachment in fairness. Trump knows who you are. Tv every night whacking him. Listen, i wasnt whacking him. I was getting 8 and a half million americans to whack him. Can i ask you about the core message. Youre saying ill take on trump on the economy. Every poll you look at its the one area where trump actually does well overwhelmly. Its the one area in which polls show he has a lot of credibility. Not on foreign policy. So people say the economy is going great. Were doing well. Youre saying to them no its not . Actually if you the old saying lies and statistics. If they feel good thats not true. I look at this economy. Statistics. Gdp growth. Is it a successful economy if the grows but the increase income goes to a slim sliver of the richest americans . That snts success. Employment. We have very low employment. Is it a success if you have a job but you cant afford to live on the job . Which is actually whats going on sno. Why are people saying they feel okay . The last is this. Is it a success we have a booming stock market because he cut taxes i saw the numbers. Big corporations pay 11 . Thats a ridiculous number. Low number. The top ten percent of americans own 85 of stocks. It does help 10 of americans a lot. Really theres been 90 of americans left behind for 40 years. Its time for us. I go around america and door to door. I have been doing this fulltime for seven years. This is not complicated. This is cruel till for money. Hes fraud. What is the path way for you, you expect to win. How do you see a win coming . Its going to have to be i keep telling people this is not a national election. David knows this. Its a series of state elections. How you do in every state impacts the next state. Theres a huge factor about momentum. A lot will change. The one thing im sure is a lot will change between now and february. And now kp march. I know the process. Generally if you get in the Single Digits and no delegates in iowa and new hampshire. You spin off the track. Youre different because you are a billionaire. You can see fund. How long are you willing to do that . Im going stay in this as long as i think i can win. I really think i can. Theres something wrong here. Im not in this race because its a career move. Im in this because theres something terribly wrong in the United States. We need to take back the government. Im talking about term limits. Take back the government and rest the climate crisis. Well get the policies that people are talking about. We have to do them and people arent talking about how to do that. If you dont win, how do you imagine youll play in the general election . Are you going to spend money to elect Senate Democrats . Run ads against trump . I have started one of the largest grass roots organizations in the United States. Next general america. It did the largest youth Voter Mobilization in American History. Its out there now working. Im not running it because that would be illegal while im running for president. I have committed to that kind of grass roots support. Which i have done for years. Including going door to door with seven National Union partners. Knocking on 25 million doors. 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Where senator warren really owned a moment about this back and forth about whether or not the absurd idea women cant win for president. Warren turned it into a huge plus showing how she and senator klobuchar were the only two real winners up on the stage. Saying they had never lost to an incumbent republican. I have mayor with me. Gillum and Jennifer Jennifer granholm. I no he knows what they said. I want to know what he said. I wouldnt let him say i dont want to talk about it. Id never tell you. I wouldnt either. It was a private conversation. Its on the stage. Private conversation. Go backstage. I would not have lied. If i heard what they said. A reporter wants to know. In terms of what the moment meant. I thought the genius was senator warren saying i know what you want me to talk about. Ill turn it into way bigger point. That speaks to the truth of the proposition. About women in politics. And distinguished her and klobuchar. Best moment of the night. Clearly. It was. I think that it gave for women watching it was this big moment of feeling of pride. That thats right, these two women are winners. And the other guys have been losers. So it made us feel as women feel like yeah, that was great. Brilliant move. I knew there would be a question about it. I was surprised she went as far as she did. And on twitter the bernie folks are just like really, really not happy. If you think about it she was so smart with how to happenedle it. She didnt woman back agrigresse and say youre a liar. She was gracious. But the talking point that i think youll see all day tomorrow. Lets talk about it. Also lets speak to it. Heres the moment that were talking about. Anybody knows me. Knows its incomprehensible that i think a woman cannot be president of the United States. If any of the women on this stage or the men on this stage win the nomination, i hope thats not the case, i hope its me. I will do everything in my power to make sure that they are elected in order to defeat the most dangerous president in the history of the country. Look at the men on the stage. Collectively they have lost ten elections. The only people on the stage who have won every single election they have been in are the women. Amy and me. All right. Small problem, big problem. Small problem somebody is not telling the truth. Because either warren misheard or misremembers whats the chance of that. Or senator sanders said something in different context and doesnt want to own. The senator is right. To the governors point. They dont have any huge winner up on the stage. And the guy who has been at the head of the poll the longest has run for the president unsuccessfully multiple times. The main metric. We have someone to beat the president. They have to figure out what was truth and what wasnt. Or leave it a alone. The exchange at the end will cause us to wonder what is still lingering. The good thing is she leapfrogged the small part. And said i know this is an ether. People say and make the argument itsth big e argument against her. Whether or not this country will elect a woman president. And she went straight to the point. Use the facts as is often her rift to rely on the facts and history to make a case. It was persuasive. This evening if you were a viewer and iowa or undecided, you probably are going to resort back to the question of who is best position and aligned to beat trump. Electability. The problem with the question for a woman is electability relies on what happened before. Always before we have elected a white male with one exception. That means it closes down the opportunity for klobuchar and warren. Popular win for clinton doesnt matter . It didnt result in an electoral win. Hes not president of the United States. The bigger point of electability. Do you check enough boxes to be president . You can say at least three of the five up there do. Most people will be looking for. Its can you beat this specific opponent . Where do you think the democrats are in terms of having found their warrior to go against maybe the most fierce sm campaigner in a generation . First of all a question of who won the debate. And does that make a difference. Did anything tonight move the numbers . Who won . Elizabeth warren won the night. She was calm and in command. She did better than anybody else. At the same time nobody put a hand on biden. He was ahead when he went in. Did it change the numbers . I dont know it did. The issue continues to be because the clear average in all the polls is biden seems to be the one on the stage that seems like no matter how well or poor the debate performance is. Numbers continue to do well. Much to the surprise of people three months ago thought he was going to be gone. Warren kind of lifted her game toont and will get the biggest bump. If you think about this, you want a president who is going to you want a candidate to make you feel. You need to walk away from the debate going i feel like i like this person. He understands or she understands me. There were three moments tonight i thought that really went there. One was the Elizabeth Warren for women. And allied men. It was strong. Joe biden when he talked about child care. And talked about being a single parent after his wife and daughter were lost. That caused people to feel something. And klobuchar had a good moment talking about the story where the worker in the trade discussion showed the uniforms and she listed the names of the people who lost jobs. Those moments are moments that is iowaens and everybody can walk away remembering. Joe biden despite the fact maybe he didnt soar to the top. He had a lot of those little moments like that. That make people realize he gets me. He is solid. And he has experienced more pain in his life than almost anybody on stage for sure and certainly donald trump. That empathy will be a winner. Doesnt it frustrate you when they talk about healthcare they get into the weeds and dont personalize it. They forget to make the case trump is trying to take away healthcare and dont use personal stories. Everybody has a story. They missed that opportunity. Preexisting conditions alone. The president has the opposite strategy of the people in the party. In all due respect. What do i need to do to win or say. How many times and to whom. Healthcare he said im the who you know kept preexisting conditions. Thats a big fat lie. Completely. Theyre suing in federal court. The gop asked the court to not hear the case until after the election. To conceal the true intentions. You do not hear democrats saying that. When one of them gives a so the question is an intelligence question, whats your price tag. Heres why its worth it over time. I think that you should have heard someone say its a great answer. Doesnt baeeat the put. Youre not getting that plan done. We dont know. Anybody who asks the question hasnt been in the process. This is what beats the president. Hes a liar. Theyre not fighting the fight. They have to win the race theyre in first. Amongst the democrats we do a lot of us want to know the answers to the questions. Youre getting to, a lot of us are thinking about it. What does it look like to have a democratic candidate on the stage as trump. And the truth is it is asymmetrical warfare. He will not play by any rules. You dont answer that by in the playing by rules. You have to the American People are sick of the chaos. And we have to have someone who will offer an answer. That gives us more calm. Less stress. From the moments that we get every time we hear the president. You talk to different constituents. I bet you all the question you get asked most is governor, do you think they can beat trump . Sure. Absolutely. 100 . You have to win the race youre in first. That is the race. When theyre on the stage, which will pop off and flip off and the next one the winner of the debate tonight. Heres how to beat trump. Theyre doing this on the campaign trail. Calling him out. This is the biggest stage. Maybe six of them mised an opportunity. They are doing it in iowa. His two tweets yesterday about im protecting preexisting conditions. They were tweeting about that. They should have said it on the stage. If buts were candy we would have a merry christmas. The debate didnt meet the moment. This didnt feel like we only got 20 days left for the first election in this. Which may windhittle it down. I feel like warren performed well. Like most out there were waiting for who is going to be the one to show up on the stage and say thats the person that can take him. Analysis doesnt do anybody a favor by miss lg the true expectation. We were together the night the poll came out. Everybody beats trump. And the state by state came out. He was dead even or up in the big states. You said i told you. This was going to be a race. I give the president a 5050 chance. Today. Of getting reelected. Incumbent and the economy is good. Russians were in for him. Having said that, theres a reason why the numbers are at 42. The American Public has his number. They cant stand him. If we show up well beat him. You are much smarter than i am. I appreciate it. Well take a quick break. Everything that happens tonight fits in to this puzzle about whaps in the next 20 days and why. Well help you figure it out. Alm i would id do it all because i love you, i love you unconditional, unconditionally i will love you unconditionally theres a booking for every resolution. Book yours, and cancel if you need to. At booking. Com i suffered with psoriasis i felt gross. Book yours, and cancel if you need to. People were afraid i was contagious. I was covered from head to toe. I was afraid to show my skin. 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Something tla party has to figure out. How to light the fire again. It felt drudgery. That said, there were beautiful moments. I have to say for a joe biden who i thought had a mostly a rough night. He did at moments remind you of why so many people including black voters love him. He has to be a good joe biden. Not a good debater. I miss the other voices. From your Vantage Point watching that, no one on the stage in your mind walked away as thats the person who can i think about it every day. Can any of the people get excited about what i saw tonight . I dont see it. We have to do better. I think warren had an exciting night. A really good energy. I thought joe biden was very shaky throughout the debate. In the end he came in with he had a couple moments where i was like yes thats the joe biden i love. Hes back. Keep that energy. When he talked about child care. And his caring for his son as a senator. It was a great moment for him and important moment for the issue. We talk about the issue as a womans issue. Its not. Its a family issue. Families are men and women and all kind of folks. Joe biden gets that. I think we put too much emphasis on who can go toe to toe on the stage with trump. Its very unlikely trump makes a debate stage with any of these folks. Who is making the case to the American Public that will fit next to his case. Made from rallies. We have to ask the question, you are unhappy you missed all the voices. The fact is that we have had multiple debates now. People had a chance to look them over and over. So maybe people dont share your excitement about it. Heres the deal. We have a party 25 africanamerican. If any of those candidates that i mention were riding a big wave of people of support they would have been on the stage. Im not blaming anybody. There was somebody missing tonight. I dont think its unrelated to the fact the voices were not there. You said warren had a great night. Its interesting. Its a different Elizabeth Warren. The warren at the beginning of the campaign was somebody who was details, these are policies. This is what ill talk. And she got challenged on medicare for all. How to pay for it. And she backed off. She is backing away from bernie. What was her Closing Argument . It wasnt about her policy proposal. It was im electable please like me. Look at what happened to jack kennedy. People didnt like him. Because he was a catholic. So its been a transformation of warren. I dont know whether you like her more now or then. Or when she began. Its totally different. Shes definitely been through a ringer. That i think probably only Kamala Harris could have stood on stage and said yeah i experienced the same. She didnt just get challenged on medicare for all. Whether or not she got fired because she was pregnant. As she said she did. Shes challenged on every faction of the plan. And you have Sanders Campaign going really negative in several ways. That is actually im not endorsing any of those things. The fact is its always fun to have the ride up to the top. Thats the kpraexhilarating par. Staying there is tough. Once you get there youre a target. She learned that. Buttigieg has learned that. My feeling is i really do think this race is going to be defined by what happens in iowa. If joe biden wins the caucus hes in a good position to win the nomination. If buttigieg you think game over . If he wins iowa . If buttigieg finishes ahead. Its a different race. If warren beats sanders, shes very much in the race. If she dint and doesnt finish close to the top. If shes down the line. She and buttigieg have a will the on the line. The question is did this debate change anything. Im not sure it did. Biden keep going back to the same argument. He is the one with the coalition. Hes got africanamerican voters. He has latin o voters. So well see. Its not clear any of the candidates even if they win in the white states they can grow and get isnt that the argument a sanders and warren are making which we talked about earlier. Which sh you need a movement in order to battle a movement. The danger with joe biden for all the beautiful moments, he is not building the kind of machine and movement that you see a warren building. Or a sanders building. Hes going op who he is. Thats not enough. The other thing is he, everybody is scared of the guy. Everybody who attacks him disappears like a bug zapper. He hasnt been vetted on the question. His stuff on the iraq war is terrible. Trade stuff is terrible. He has real weaknesses where he says hes strong. I dont think nafta makes you strong. Theres a biden bubble. You cant take it. You get bug zapped out of the race. Hes weak in some places he hasnt been tested. Give him credit on the healthcare. Most dont want to lose private insurance. It relates to National Security. Most democrats agree we ought to keep a small force to fight terrorism. They dont believe we ought to take everybody out. We have 50,000 troops in japan. 26,000 in korea. Since 1957. He hit the button he needed to hit. For a lot of the majority of the democrats. I dont think the debate changed anyones mind. Im shocked to win a caucus, particularly the prediction is the turn out will be quite large. You have to excite people. You have to excite people and encourage them to come out. You have to have a good organization. The question here in iowa and it will be answered in 20 days. I dont know the answer. Can he excite enough people to win a high turn out caucus. And does he have the organization necessary to help in that. And warren has a great organization. Buttigieg built a strong organization. People seem to agree. Sanders has a cult like following. And. Strong organization. It is an organization. No question. Sanders has a good a chance as anyone to win the caucus. For biden the question is its related to bha youre saying. Can he generate enthusiasm. I think he did okay tonight. He never thought he was going to win iowa. He has been down playing expectation. Same for new hampshire. The strategy. Nevada, South Carolina. The key issue i think is coming out of the first four contests. Heading into march 3. There is bloomberg sitting there with 16 contests and a billion if biden wins on the think the bloomberg experiment is not in good shape. If he finishes fourth its a whole different the big question for democrats is if you want a revolution, movement, then youre not voting for joe biden. He wont give you that. If you want relief. Tums. From donald trump. And think he can beat him and hes a band aid. Or a bridge to get you over the next four years or whatever. Then youll go for him if you think he can win. I dont know if thats what voters in iowa are thinking. Because they are motivated, committed. I wouldnt under estimate. People have the view are betting a will the on the mythology of joe biden being strong in the industrial heart land. That hasnt been tested. I get the Hillary Clinton jitters here. They told us how electable she was and you have a lot of working class people who look at the record. And he is not as tough there possibly as we think. Culturely akin to the voters in a way clinton was not. He provides the comfort. Has he been challenged on the debate stage by other candidates . That is what trump expertise is. My concern about biden and trump is he seems to want to meet him on his level. Biden is a decent human being. He is a good guy. Hes never going to make it to trumps level. When he says the push up contest and behind the bleachers. He wants to have a tough guy match up. Decency. Last time clinton probably did better in most of the debates than trump. People didnt really care. When he talks about restoring americas soul. That speaks to me. No one will go as low as trump. 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What is the read, gov, on why its anybodys race when these people are all different candidates. It speaks to what is happening in the democratic party. People want a revolution, people are more modmoderate. Older folks on the biden side, younger folks with bernie and elizabe elizabeth. It will be interesting to see which of the polls actually shows up. We know young people often dont show up, but these are caucuses, and theyre organized. Thats what is going on. And it will be interesting to see the level of intensity behind the polls. Its not a process of going in and choosing your guy and walking back out. You need to be in there, go over to the next group, negotiate for second position, third position. Your guy didnt get there, your candidate didnt make it. Come over to our side. The numbers tell us something, but not everything. I will be interested in knowing who you feel most passionate about it. My guess would be bernie, followed by elizabeths folks. Now you have a rift. Its really interesting. So who are the second choice voters going to go to . What rift . The rift between bernie and elizabeth. The bernie folks were really angry on twitter. It was a risk for her to raise this issue in the way it was raised. It got people angry, the suggestion that he was a sexist in some way. I think the voters are smart. Especially the voters in iowa, they take their job seriously, thinking about who can win. About a month ago, everybody was counting out joe biden in iowa. Now hes looking a little bit better than in the past. And i think david is right. If joe biden somehow wins in iowa, it changes the calculus. He will do really well in South Carolina. Then super tuesday comes around. If biden comes out of the first four contests as a winner, or three of them, it could change it. And it could force the bloomberg folks to change their calculus. And i expect super tuesday, which will tend to go towards biden. And if he doesnt perform the way people expect, the media narratives start mattering a lot with the votes. Low moment of the night . This is for me, i come from michigan, weve seen a lot of job losses in the automotive sector. When Bernie Sanders was asked about des moines being an insurance city. What are you going to do for the people whose jobs are lost . Its a really hard question to answer. And i dont know that he answered it in a way that would satisfy those whose jobs will be lost. How about you . I felt there were some issues that could have been of importance to black and brown voters that were not addressed. Especially given the absence of diversity on the stage, to say we see you, we hear you, and we have a plan to speak to those issues as well. And it didnt happen during the debate, but the after footage that weve seen. We dont know what was said between sanders and warren, but as a progressive, i felt a little deflated to see some crack there. I realize theyre opponents in the race, and aspirants to the same office, but most of them want to see them come out of this thing whole. I completely agree with andrew on this, diversity is a great plus for our country. And i thought every candidate missed a wonderful opportunity to speak to the africanamerican and latinx community. If you were listening with the other ears, we were teasing a little bit about what bernie and elizabeth spoke about, you take that off the stage. Everybody is listening on a hot mic. But you guys are thirsty to know what was said. I cant believe this was not asked. There has been a lot of discussion about the fact that the debate is so white. We lost all the diversity. Why not put them on the spot. Say, what would you do about it for next time . Because i think its a moment to say, we cant have just iowa and new hampshire. The next 20 days, i got to leave it there. All four states should be on one date. Thank you very much for watching. 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