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Its about the most inaccessible spot that you can imagine on the face of the earth. In a sea of possibilities. Was it hijacked . Was there an emergency . A special edition of newsroom starts now. Good morning. Im carol costello. Thank you so much for joining me. Another day of disappointment in the search for that missing airliner, the cause, a motive, if there was one, still unknown. Its now been 14 days since the plane vanished and adding to the urgency, the dying batteries on the flight recorders. Just over 15 days from now the pings designed to help search crews locate them will start fading away. This morning crews were back out in the air and on the water scouring the remote area of the indian ocean for the object spotted on satellite images, unfortunately, they found nothing today. It is nighttime in australia now and theyre done searching from the air for the day. Cnns Andrew Stevens is in perth, australia, the hub of the crew. Andrew, the weather was good today. We were hoping for something. Reporter thats right, carol. The weather was better than good, it was excellent. Visibility really, really good out over that search zone, but the five aircraft who came out there all came back empty handed. Not a sighting of anything resembling a piece of debris which fits what we know about those two objects lying in the water somewhere in that zone. A very disappointing day. The pilots themselves expressing disappointment. Also saying theyre ready to get out there and do it all again tomorrow. Now what we have been hearing today to add to that disappointment is the australian Prime Minister, carol, seems to be dialing back a little bit. 24 hours ago, a little bit longer than that, he said there was credible new information about these objects. Today he was saying admitting they could be a shipping container. He said i had to get that information out there because the families of the people who are missing deserve to know what we know but, yes, it could be just a shipping container, nothing to do with that flight. So disappointment with the Australian Government as well that they seem to be dialing back, all around no progress. The optimism that was here just 24 hours ago, the buzz is now really fading. So disappointing to hear because the pings from those black boxes, the batteries are about to die. What are they saying about that . Reporter well, theyre saying exactly that. We have a window of opportunity here. Weve only got a little more than 15 days to find something which we can link back to where that wreckage may be. The challenges, carol, they are huge. Not only is it that four hour flight just to get to the target zone which means that planes can only stay over that site for about two hours, its the depth. Three miles deep some of the water around there. Its the currents. Its whats taken those objects, maybe 100, maybe 200 miles away from where they originated. Theres also this convergence of plastic, called a gire, a lot of rubbish in the water which makes it difficult to distinguish in some areas just what is what. These enormous challenges still facing the search crews. As you say, time is ticking away. All right. Andrew stevens reporting live from australia. As andrew said, we need help. So malaysia is tweeting for help, i should say. Minister hish mudun hussein is tweeting for high tech microphones. Well speak with the u. S. Secretary of defense tonight to further request specialist assets. Theyre asking for a hydrophone. The transducer conducts sound waves into Electrical Energy that can be amplified making it easier to listen to the pings coming from those black boxes. Cnns Barbara Starr joins us with more from the pentagon. Good morning. Reporter good morning, carol. That phone call was scheduled to take place a short time ago as i look at the clock and we expect a readout here at the pentagon. The malaysian minister, indeed, asking for the possibility of two things, the hydro phone technology youre talking about and underwater remote piloted vehicles. But, there is a single but, they need to find a debris field first. They need to be able to narrow it down. When you put this kind of technology into the water you have to have a particular place to look. You cant just throw it into the water across, you know, 23,000 square kilometers so you have to find the debris field. You have to look at where the debris is, the current, the time, the winds and calculate backwards where you think the data recorders might be in the water and then you bring in this technology. So this is something that everyone involved in the search is very well aware of. Theyre just not there yet for this type of technology. As for the hydro phones, several countries, including the u. S. Who are searching have that capability. They can use it. Not clear what the malaysians would put it on and what they would send down to the deep southern ipd ndian oceans. The hydro phones, they have unique capabilities to go deep in the ocean. There will be once they find debris, once they find the location for the black boxes, there is commercial al vaj capability and the malaysians may call on that. Barbara starr. Thank you. Malaysia airlines confirming a report you saw first on cnn. The flights cargo did include lithium ion batteries, the power pack used in cell phones and laptops. They are known to sometimes overheat, even burst into flames and have caused previous crashes. Cnn justice correspondent pamela brown first reported on this concern last week. As i said, malaysian officials commented on it this morning. Tell us more, pamela. Reporter yeah, thats right, carol. Last friday we pointed out that investigators are looking into whether lithium batteries right here, spare lithium battery which may have been related to plane crashes in the past, may be connected to the disappearance of flight 370. Its believed they were in the cargo and for the first time this morning two weeks after they were out there, they tamped down the fact that they could have caused a problem. The airlines defended his companys use of the batteries. They are in fact recommended. We checked them. I checked them several times, make sure the packing is right. I want to give you another look here. This right here at the battery. You might recognize it from what you find in your laptop or cell phone. Passengers are banned from bringing spare lithium batteries like this in checked luggage. Thats because these batteries are more easily combustible than other types of batteries and they can spark fires, which weve seen in other plane crashes. They have been linked to plane crashes. There was a ups plane crash years ago and its believed the lithium batteries why on that plane and caused the crash. Again, carol, if the lithium batteries did cause a fire on flight 370, it doesnt explain other anomalies, like why the plane kept flying for seven hours. If it caused a fire, the plane likely wouldldnt be able to do that. Exactly. Well discuss this more in a few minutes with pamela brown. Thanks so much for that report. Joining me, miles obrien, pbs news hour pilot and steve wallace, cnn aviation analyst and former director of the faas office of investigation. Welcome, gentlemen. Hello, carol. Miles, were bringing up lithium batteries because the malaysian government addressed them today, but is it really likely that these batteries were to blame . They were being transported. They werent being used, in other words. Well, lithium batteries have a long history of, you know, sort of going uncontrolled and causing very hot fires so this is nothing we should overlook. The idea that the crew was somehow incapacitated is still an idea that weve been talking about quite a bit. You know, if you think about a crew that might have a bad idea on their mind, if you will, if it was a suicide mission, theres no reason to fly seven hours on a suicide mission. You would probably put it in the water very quickly as they did about 15 years ago with egypt air flight 990. If it was a terror mission, why didnt they turn around and fly into a skyscraper. Theyre in kuala lumpur. So the incapacitated crew idea has a lot of traction. Theres still a lot of holes and concerns. For example, if there really was a smoldering fire, its very likely the crew would have an opportunity to get a radio call off and say there was a problem. Its an idea we need to think about. Steve, you were an faa investigator. How seriously would faa investigators take the fact that lithium batteries were on board that plane . Well, its a bit like what we heard about stolen passports on day one. It raises a red flag, but miles is exactly right. First of all, there are very strict rules now about packaging and shipping lithium batteries and as pam brown referred to, there was a horrific accident with ups with a modern 747 400 attributed to lithium batteries. I completely agree with miles, there are o several ways, vhf radio, setting an emergency code in the transponder sending out an emergency signal. It seems like we keep going up. Somebody sends one up and they shoot it down. This lithium ion battery is out there and now its shot down. Its frustrating. Its been rather chaotic and in many cases incomplete. As ive said repeatedly, i would like to hear the air Traffic Control recordings, tapes, conversations between the a aircraft and the crew. Was there a changeoff . Some stress in their voices . All of these things we havent heard and thats for starters. We havent seen the maintenance record for the aircraft. Have investigators talked to some of the people who flew with these crew on prior flights, the previous ten flights . Were they doing anything unusual . Theres a lot of gaps in our knowledge that would help us. We know the ntsb is involved, steve. Do you think ntsb investigators have seen those things . Well, miles is right, the transparency of this investigation and the release of information has been terribly slow. This investigation was i mean, initially in the u. S. Youd have an organizational meeting on day one and parties and it would all be organized. This investigation has, in my view, been very disorganized. Its getting better. It has broken all records for speculation and for showing the agony of families. Let me just add one last point here that might be kind of interest is that were right here at the vernal equinox. The days are exactly the same length in the northern and southern hemisphere. Most of them are 12 times zones away. When its daylight there when its dark here its daylight there advice vaers rule of thumb when people are wondering whether the airplanes can see the debris. This is in one of the remotest parts of the world. In fact, chinese warships are on the way including the snow dragon. Thats a ship that breaks up the ice. The ice breaker part gets to me, miles, because it means theyll perhaps search closer to the south pole and it cant be easy to find things through ice. Well, i suppose, that if wreck kachblg did land on top of the ice, that would ease the efforts. If youre talking about ice breakers to find things under the ice, thats a task thats hard for even me to get an idea how hard that would be. Put it that way. I agree. Miles obrien, steve wallace, many thanks to both of you. Still to come in the newsroom, search planes find no signs of that floating debris. Well talk about the search area and why its been so difficult for them. Tom . You know, carol, heres one of the problems. 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Planes completed their flight 370 Search Mission today with no sign found on satellites. Get this, searchers actually covered 9,000 miles by air and sea, which sounds like a lot until you take into account the entire search area. Lets bring in tom warren to talk us through this and tell us why this search is so difficult. Hi, tom. Hi, carol. You were touching on why its so difficult a little bit ago when you were talking about the area and the climate of this area. This is not merely the southern arc of this. This is the particular area where theyre looking off the coast of australia is sort of the dividing line or close to the dividing line between the indian ocean and the Southern Ocean which is the ocean that goes down to the south pole and antarcti antarctica. Thats why the high tech planes and ships have to be out there working so frantically right now because, just as it became spring here, it is just turning to fall there and that will not help a bit in what theyre having to deal with. One of the things they have to deal with is a steady, steady, steady easterly current in this area. To give you an idea, between the winds and the currents now, talk about 14 days out, this debris, if this plane went down there, even if its on the surface and even if theres not too much glare or too many white caps to make you not see it could be moving at essentially a steady walking pace, carol. So in the period of time were talking about because its moving 24 hours a day, this may have moved 1100 miles. Wow. Thats a tremendous distance. So even if you look in the right place now, an hour later it is the wrong place and substantially the wrong place. Thats why they keep moving the zones. Below the surface, Barbara Starr was talking to you about terrific information about why this is so complicated. When you get down to the bottom, you cant go down and scan vast, vast areas, if you know where youre looking you can bring in a side scan sonar which is what they did through air france. This throws out waves to the side of sound, sonar waves. It comes back. What it will create out of that is a 3d relief map of the bottom of the ocean floor like this, and then you can actually look at it and see anything in there that you might think would be wreckage, but you simply cannot deploy these over a vast area. I keep saying to people its like this, if you lost your keys in your home, you could walk through your home and look for them and you have a chance of finding them. When you Start Talking about specialized things underwater, side scan sonar, you can get a very clear picture but its like searching your home through a soda straw. You can get it but thats not how you start. You must have a clue. So all the work up there in that Stormy Weather and in those rushing currents, thats why thats so important, because if they dont have a clue up there, they really cant even begin to search down here. Carol. Tom foreman, thanks so much. Lets imagine for a moment, if you will, that that search area for flight 370 can be narrowed to, say, 5,000 square miles. A robot sub may be brought in. Cnns randi kaye reports. It works like sonar to capture images from the floor. Reporter this robot submarine may hold the key to finding Malaysia Airlines flight 370. Its called the remus 6,000. Its 13 feet long, weighs almost a ton, and costs about 2. 5 million. Mike purcell is the principal engineer here. They can go up and down mountains that are up to 40 degrees in slope. They are very stable so you get really good data almost all the time. Reporter why would this robot find something that the u. S. Navy and two other countries havent been able to find . First of all, the torpedo vehicle can reach depths up to 6,000 meters or more than 3. 5 miles below the surface and it can survey wide swathes of the ocean floor using whats called side scan sonar. They send a sound pulse thats sort of a fan beam out to the side. It will travel out almost half a mile from the vehicle and it bounces off the sea floor and we get a reflection back to the vehicle. Reporter they call the process mowing the lawn because it works its assigned grid back and forth before returning to the surface with images captured on a High Resolution camera. Its all done at the touch of a laptop on dry land. Reporter how would you tell the difference . You can tell from return. Manmade objects, metd tall down there on the sea floor responds very strongly. Reporter the team here hasnt been asked yet to help search for the plane in the ocean, but if they are, it won be the first time. The remus 6,000 was called on to find air france 447 after it crashed into the Atlantic Ocean in june 2009. Two years later a search team from woodshole located the wreckage of the jet about 2. 5 miles beneath the surface after months searching, something only possible because of this underwater robot. This is the initial shot of the air france debris field captured by the remus 6,000. There were obvious signs that this was from the plane. One Team Member First noticed a backpack on the ocean floor belonging to a passenger. Closer images revealed the planes engine, one of the wings, even the landing gear. Reporter before you put one of these vehicles in the water, you have to narrow down the search area. The team from here searched 5,000 square miles for the flight and it still took them more than 100 attempts to find the debris, and that is just a fraction of the area theyre still looking for. While the team is ready for the call if it comes, what they hope to discover more than anything are survivors. Randi kaye, cnn, woods hole, massachusetts. Coming up next in the newsroom im joined by the officer in charge of the United States role in the new search area. Were going to look at the massive scope of that operation. Ill be right back. What does an apron have to do with Car Insurance . An apron is hard work. An apron is pride in what you do. An apron is not quitting until youve made something a little better. What does an apron have to do with Car Insurance . For us, everything. And i know there are many myths out there about a reverse mortgage, so i want you to know the facts. There are currently no credit score or income requirements to qualify. You can get taxfree money from the equity in your home. You can use the money to pay off your current mortgage if you have one. The remaining money can be used for anything. Theres no monthly mortgage payments. 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As for the search over land, malaysias acting transportation minister says kazakhstan has found no sign of the missing plane in its territory either. So the focus this morning has been on a u. S. Search plane, the p8 poseidon searching the south indian ocean. Its trying to locate potential debris spotted sunday. Cnn spoke earlier this morning with the officer in charge of p8 operations in perth, Lieutenant Commander adam schantz. We were challenged with the weather yesterday. Today we had much better conditions out there so todays going good. Were covering a lot of area today and getting a lot of searching done. Generally when youre looking at the ocean its rather monotonous and it looks the same. Anything thats not supposed to be out there generally stands out. Looking for any kind of debris, anything thats not manmade or thats not natural thats manmade out there is something that can always be a clue. If there was any wreckage on the surface of the ocean and its out there, yes, i am confident we would be able to find it. The australian Prime Minister today called it one of the most inaccessible places on earth that you were having to go search. What are the challenges that you would say your search team and the other search teams really are facing . The biggest one is extreme remoteness of the area. Were like you said, were talking about three to four hours to get out there, roughly 1500 miles out there. The aircraft, theres no alternates and nowhere else out there to land. Theyre having to manage their fuel very carefully out there to ensure theyre getting back here with plenty of reserve gas. The American Public should be proud of the men and women we have out here. Our maintenance professionals are keeping this plain flying and get on the mission and the search area on time every day. Our air crew is out there diligently working to search all the areas and we all want the same thing and provide closure for these families. Lieutenant commander adam schantz and kate bolduan, thanks to both of you. Still to come in the newsroom, theyre preparing for, quote, a long haul, there are renewed questions about what caused the plane to seemingly vanish. Can we now rule out a hijacking . Well talk about that next. Ive quit for 75 days. 15 days, but not in a row. For the first time, you can use nicorette even if you slip up, so you can reach your goal. Now, quit on your own terms with nicorette or nicoderm cq. Now to the investigation into what happened aboard flight 370 as search crews comb through the southern indian ocean, could that provide key clues about what caused this to disappear. Lets bring in martin savidge. With him, pilot richard savato and we have the former assistant director of the fbi. Welcome, gentlemen. Good morning, carol. Tom, ill start with you. The direction the plane was going toward the south pole, could that rule out hijacking . Carol, i dont think anything rules out hijacking or rules it in. Its still within the realm of possibility. Just because we havent seen cases in the past where a hijacker took control of a plane and flew it to some remote location, you know, one of the goals of terrorists is to get media attention, and theyve certainly if that was the goal in this case, theyve done it. And in terms of terror, you know, people thinking twice now about getting on an aircraft and wondering if theyll ever be seen or heard of or known about ever again. So, you know, thats not an i mean, its an outside possibility but you cant rule it out. Two things, no ones taken responsibility. Its about 14 days. And were talking about a really remote location. Well, the more remote, the less likely youll find it in time. The less likely you find it, that means recovering the data recorders, the black boxes. You know, again, the fact that it flew so long also tells you that you dont know what happened. Youre not going to know what was said in the cockpit at the time the trans ponders were turned off, the recorders will have wroefr written that. You wont know who was in the cockpit if a stranger came in there. You wont know if there was a struggle between the captain and the copilot. The data recorder will tell you if it went up, down, sideways, whatever it did. It wont tell you why and it wont tell you who was talking about it in the cockpit at the time that was occurring. Marty, it seems some pilots are back to the theory that this was a mechanical failure. Is there know scenario that makes sense . Oh, yeah. Yeah, there are a number of them, actually. There he is a popular one out there called a zombie plane. This is a flight thats taking off from beijing or kuala lumpur headed to beijing. Its the middle of the night and theyve just reached their cruising altitude. So this is the part of that flight where normally you would hear the ding and thats the indication, okay, you can now take off your seat belts and its free to move about the cabin time. Safest part of the flight, right, mitchell . Absolutely. Crews typically, safest part of the flight, most uneventful. Do you think Something Else could have gone wrong like this . Thats an indication, carol, that youve got a fire. Maybe its the nose wheel overheated and its now smoldering, not blazing. You get a fire indicator right here and obviously this would alert the pilots. So the scenario would be that one pilot would remain, say, mitchell here, and he would begin maybe programming the flight data system so that this aircraft could make a turn, go back to kuala lumpur or to an alternate airport. Meanwhile, another pilot goes under to see what he can do, disconnecting electric calls, like this, the trans ponder. We know it went out or maybe the fire burned it out. Then acars goes out. Was it disconnected to stop a fire . Did it burn out . Meanwhile, the plane is already committed to the turn. Its on automatic pilot. How far would you go . You would go until you ran out of gas. Since the plane was fueled for what we think, seven hours, thats how it ends up down there in the southern indian ocean. Except for one thing a plane with no brain. If it is true that before the pilots said, all right, good night, 12 minutes before that somebody reprogrammed the computers. Wouldnt that shoot that theory down . Well, thats right. There is no sort of explanation anyones come up with that covers all of the kind of parameters that weve heard of information. No you were assuming that everything weve heard or information thats been leaked or heard from sources is totally accurate. You cant verify that, as tom says, until we find the black boxes. Theres no perfect explanation as yet. Thats because we have seemingly a complete lack of real evidence. Tom, lets talk about that homing simulator in captain shaws home. American investigators say they can retrieve some of those files. Is it likely anything found there will be useful . Well, it depends what i mean, theres two aspects to the searches of the computers. One is what flights he may have been practicing, you know, ahead as previous destinations at home. Much of that could be explained away. He used that to practice going to places that Malaysian Airlines always go to, which is all over asia. He could have for recreation purposes said whats it like to go to somalia, what would it be like to fly to the north pole, what would it be like to fly to new york . You dont know what theyll find with that. No matter what they find, you could almost explain every possible thing away. If you think hes looking at alternate destinations in the indian ocean, they fly to every major city in australia including perth where the rescue is being conducted from now. You would want alternate possible a small island somewhere. Are they out there . He might be looking for that. Again, almost anything they find with Flight Simulator software could be explained, you know, one way or the other. The other important factor and i think my opinion as an investigator, the more important factor is, what websites were the two pilots visiting . This can be, you know, everything from child pornography, it could be extremist terror websites, it could be anything. That will give you a greater insight into what their interests are. What were the things they were looking up on a regular basis . What kind of files they may have stored or what kind of bookmarks they may have made in their computer to easily go back to some of these websites. That might be a lot more informative than what destinations he practiced flying to. Now, see, i would assume 14 days into this that investigators know some of that information. I mean and just arent sharing it or really havent found anything pertinent. Well, i can tell you in the fbis case doing the search now, you know, the first place theyre going to report back to is the malaysians. Theyre helping the malaysians in their investigation. Now at some point theyll brief other he entities of the u. S. Government and it will quickly leak out. Thats how it happens all the time. For right now the discipline of the investigation is such that what they find will be reported back to the investigators in kuala lumpur and, you know, go from there, but that will come out. You will know these things with the exception of in terms of the Flight Simulator especially, if he resaved other files, that will cover over or corrupt or delete the files that were previously deleted. When you delete a file, you dont actually delete it, you just put it aside so that it can be overwritten if you need the space in the future. Marty, you wanted to Say Something . I was going to say to toms point how this Flight Simulator may not show true intent. We get a lot of free time in here and, yeah, i like to play. You can come up with all sorts of scenarios as tom said. Maybe try flying under the golden gate bridge. Now you would never do that, but thats the beauty of a simulator. You get the chance to do something you would never try in real life. Just because something shows up in a simulator does not mean thats what a pilot intended to do. Thanks as always. Youre welcome, carol. Still to come in the newsroom, hundreds of miles above the indian ocean, satellites may hold the key of unlocking the mystery of flight 370. How helpful can the images be if theyre delayed for several days . Weel well talk about that next. Its a growing trend in business do more with less with less energy. Hp is helping ups do just that. Soon, the worlds most intelligent servers, designed by hp, will give ups over twice the performance, using forty percent less energy. 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We need to get there, find them, see them, assess them to know whether its really meaningful or not. Reporter what gave the australians confidence to say these two blurry objects may be parts of the plane . These images come from a colorado based Company Called digital globe. Imagery analysts tom brown says they fly at 4 miles a second in a polar orbit snapping huge swaths of pictures at a time. How would they have taken these images and determined it was debris . Theyre looking for bright objects against a dark sea. Sometimes you use change Detection Software to do that. Other times they have human eyeballs. In the case of the australians, they had lots and lots of eye balls. Reporter google earth can zoom in and capture these photos. But these satellite pictures of the objects in question are fuzzy. Brown says australian intelligence officials likely saw higher resolution versions than the ones released to the public. Thats because they dont want to share that information with potential adversaries, for example. Reporter why did it take four days for the pictures to go public . Brown says digital globe would have had to download them to ground stations then send them via satellite to their colorado labs, process them in different formats, then send them to the australians who would examine them frame by frame, pixel by pixel. If the currents are strong and the ocean is choppy, how do you distinguish between white caps and a crucial piece of debris . If you have a white cap like that its much more difficult to identify a piece of debris. It will determine more attention and more eye balls to make those distinctions. Reporter whats making the search difficult is that the water was choppy. After the pictures were taken there was low visibility and rough seas. Brian todd, cnn. As the u. S. Ramps up sanctions on russia, officials in both countries are ramping up the rhetoric. 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When the white house imposed rounds one and two, freezing assets, barring entrances from key russian officials, their first reaction was to laugh. Calling the moves hill lair yar honor. One top aide said he just wants to listen to two pock shakur. Now, more sanctions. Putins banker and his crony bank. The administration said they will all be frozen out of doing business in dollars, accounts will be closed. The next steps could be more severe, targeting, financial services, mininging, defense, engineering and other sacktors. This is not our preferred outcome. This could have a Significant Impact on the russian and global economy. Russia responded with its own sanctions on president obamas advisers, top lawmakers. John boehner and john mccain called themselves proud to be on putins naughty list, those willing to stand against his aggression. Mccain said, i guess my spring break in siberia is off. My secret bank account in moscow is frozen. Senator dan coats tweeted, i will continue to lead efforts. Our nations leaders almost gleefully using the hashtag sanctioned by putin. Reporter they say diplomacy is still possible. The Russian Foreign minister called u. S. Sanctions inappropriate, counterproductive. For every hostile attack, they will respond appropriately, even hinting they might not cooperate any longer and talks aimed to end Irans Nuclear program. Although, u. S. Officials have discounted it saying russia also has a stake in that end. This is continuing and it seems to get more unpleasant by the day, carol. Thats one way to put it, michelle kosinski. Many thanks to you. New in the thnext hour of newsroom, the answers of what happened to flight 370, could be somewhere in the flight data recorder, the socalled black box. What if we had those answers all ang lo. New technology that sends real time information about everything from the planes location to how the engines are running. 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In a sea of possibilities, was it hijacked . Was there an emergency . A special edition of newsroom starts now. Good morning. Im carol costello. Thank you so much for joining me. Another day of disappointment in the search for the missing Malaysian Airliner. The cause, a motive, if there was one, still unknown. It has now been 14 days since the plane vanished. The dying batteries on the flight recorder. Just over 15 days, the pings designed to help search crews locate them will start fading away. Crews were back out scouring the area for objects. Unfortunately, they found nothing. It is nighttime there now. The air searches have wrapped up for the day. Its about the most inaccessible spot that you can imagine on the face of the earth. If there is anything down there, we will find it. We owe it to the families of those people to do no less. Cnns Andrew Stevens is in perth, australia, the hub of the search. Andrew, the weather was pretty good today. We were hopeful but nothing, right . Reporter thats right, carol. Thats the problem. The weather was pretty good. People were saying, once the weather clears up, the first day of the search was hampered by bad weather. We were hoping you got better visibility. The searches, the spotters, might have been able to see something on the water. 23,000 square miles they are searching. That is still a very big chunk of the ocean. But, there was nothing out there today. Five flights went out. They came back emptyhanded. There is a feeling here in perth. Im on the air force base, the station post for these flights going out there. There is a feeling here after yesterday when there is a lot of buzz here, that finally, there c could be a breakthrough. There was credible information about these two objects. A lot of people were saying, here, this could be a turning point in this so far fruitless church. No signs, no signs at all. The disappointment is starting to set in. Three chinese warships are on the way, including a chinese icebreaker, thats a certain kind of ship that breaks up ice. How much more help do they need out there . I think the bottom line is, they need all the help they can get. This is, as we heard tony evans say and as we have repeatedly said, an incredibly remote piece of the planet. Fourhour flight just to get there. The closest big land mass is australia, 1500 miles away. They need all the help they can get. They are getting theirs. There are 2600 countries involved in this search. There are still searchers moving to the north of the northern hemisphere. We have chinese warships coming in. The australians are sending theirs in. That should arrive on site tomorrow. Every little bit helps. The more they can get there, the more likely they are to at least find and identify these objects. Thats the thing. It is all very well to find them. We still have to link them back to Malaysia Flight 370. So everything helps, carol but realistically, it is such a remote area, no the a lot of useful help can get there. An true stevens, reporting live from perth, australia, this morning. Malaysia airlines confirms a report you saw first on cnn. The flights cargo did include l lithium eye on batteries. They are known to sometimes overheat and burst into flames and have caused previous crashes. Pamela brown first reported on this concern last week. The malaysian government, the Malaysian Airlines ceo addressed it today. What did he say . You are right. We talked about this last friday. That investigators are looking into whether these lithium batteries in the cargo may be connected to the disappearance of flight 370. For the first time this morning, two weeks after the plane went missing, Malaysian Airline officials acknowledged that lithium batteries were in the cargo. They tried to tamp down the notion that they could have caused a fire. The ceo defended his companys handling of the batteries. Lets take a listen to what he said. They are not declared dangerous so it is the facts. We do check them. Check them several times to make sure the packing is right. Lets take a look here. This is a lithium battery, what you can find in your laptop. Passengers are banned from bringing spare lithium batteries like this in checked luggage, because spare, lithium batteries are more easily combustible. The questions remain, could the lithium batteries have sparked a fire and maybe filled the plane with smoke and incapacitated the pilots and passengers. What this doesnt explain is how the plane could have kept flying for seven hours and why there wasnt a may day call. With every theory you have, you can poke holes in it. Just to be clear, the plane wasnt using the lithium batteries to power the electrical system. They were just being transported somewhere. They were in the cargo area. So just to make it clear to ou viewers, could those batteries spontaneously burst into flames somehow . Well, it all depends on how they were packaged. We heard the Malaysian Airlines ceo say he was he was defending the way they were handled and packaged. They had a temporary suspension on the transport of lithium batteries in february, 2013, because there had been other crashes linked to the lithium batteries on the plane. There are tighter restrictions on that. It all ties back to that, carol. As you heard the ceo say, he defends it, that everything was handled the right way and properly. Pamela brown, thank you. Back now to the investigation, officials are trying to locate debris several days after the images were captured. Today, the malaysian government acknowledged it took two days to process the initial images that helped shape those north and southern arcs that have formed the basis of the search. Steve wallace, former director of the faas office of investigation. Richard quest is a cnn aviation correspondent. Welcome, gentlemen. Richard, i want to start with you. So how long did it actually take those satellite images to come to light for searchers to know kind of where to look . Well, what we now know is that inmarsat, once this he realized what they had, provited the satellite image to the malaysians around the 12th of march and then you have the malaysians giving the data, the raw data to the americans. The americans analyzed it in the United States. The brits in the uk. The data is sent back to the malaysians and the general feeling is that they needed more certainty about that data on the pings. So the data is sent back for more analysis and more confirmation before being sent back to the malaysians. All that took about two or three days for the information to go backwards and forwards before the malaysian Prime Minister was then able to come out as you will remember at the beginning of the week and say, there are these two arcs. One is the northern corridor. One is the southern corridor. So it took a couple of days. In all this time, that debris is moving. It is moving. Here is the point, carol. They are dammed if they do and dammed if they dont. If they had moved assets and resources on the possibility of this data and three days later, everybody comes back and says, actually, we dont believe that data, the endegree trit to be that strong, you and i would be the first people o to be saying, why didnt they wait until they confirmed it . What were they thinking about . We have to accept that the investigators have to work at a much higher level of integrity, credibility and confidence before they determine to send ships and planes, one way or the other. I want to bring in leo romaine thank you for joining us. This timeline that Richard Quest was talking about, does that make sense to you . Yes, it does. It takes a while before satellite image data is physically collected and then transferred to the ground station, downloaded to various computers and then they do the analysis. For a scientist or an imaging analyst, who positively make it, they have to do quite a considerable amount of spectoral analysis and check the reflection data and then release it. Let me ask you. Im sure you have seen these images, this debris. When you look at these images, what do you see . I see some debris. The size is pretty fair size. All depending on what kind of satellite censor was collected. It looks like the two Images Available were collected by the world view 2 satellite from digital globe and this has eight multispectral bends. With this kind of information, the reflecting data can be analyzed. Although the debris is moving, they would be able to get a better a better idea on what kind of materials it could be. The reflective data would be different from aluminum than wood. The other thing that people dont they probably do understand but there are other images of that debris that this company is not sharing. No. The company will share. It is to everybodys interest to find out any kind of debris of the aircraft. They are not going to hide anything away. I dont think so. Let me ask you this, steve. This debris is definitely moving. They are going to try to find it. They are going to call in lots and lots of mathematicians to determine where this might be. Can you take us through that . They put in those buoys in the water to calculate the drift and the ntsb has already weighed in with its experts. People have taken that inmarsat data, we have a fairly high degree of confidence in it. They have drawn those two arcs and gotten away from the northern one on the notion someone would have seen it on radar. We seem to have focused on the intersection of where the fuel would have run out after the last ping. The best experts, many of them americans, have calculated where this would be. Let me just add one also one quick thing to pam browns very good analysis on the lithium batteries. The ups cargo was a main debt cargo hold. This is since it was a passenger plane are about he low the deck with the very latest in fire detection and suppression. There would have been plenty of time for a distress call, which we did not see. I mean, its unlikely in your estimation that lithium batteries could be to blame . Is that what you are saying . For several reasons. They are recognized as having certain inherent risks. The packaging requirements are quite strict. The lack of a distressed call kind of moves that over further over to the enl of the table for me. Many thanks to all of you. I appreciate it. Still to come, u. S. War planes new mission, find flight 370. Well talk about hightech u. S. Assets being used. 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We have been talking about this being a moving target out there. I want to show you how much of a moving target it is. We are talking about how they were all converging all these forces down there. They were bringing the airplanes and the ships and really about half of all the search assets in the entire area, the entire arena over there being brought in. Look whats changed about the search area in just past 48 hours. See that little sliver down there. Thats what they are looking at now. Thats different from what they had been looking at before. This was the bigger area right here. Now, they have narrowed it down to this little sliver down here based on mathematics and a lot of, if this, then that. We all know the more you do that. The more you ex strap poe late data, the more you get uncertainty. The plane took off, we know, and less than an hour later, it bass gone. Whats making this change among other things is all the currents in this area. This is the juncture between the indian ocean and the south ocean, the one around antarctica. It is very stormy and curb lent. It is very conceivable if a plane went down, the currents could be moving it at pretty much a regular walking pace. Over the time, since the day the plane disappeared until today, it could have moved 1,000, 1,100, maybe 1,200 miles. When you talk about the beneath the surface, it gets more complicated. The currents on the surface are not necessarily the same as the currents below the surface. So then you have another layer of if it is sinking or if is partially underthe water as these pieces are supposed to be, is it being subjected to different forces . Yes. You can go down there with this technology, like side scan sonar and you can go over the ocean floor and you can look for things. That will create a 3d picture of the ocean floor. With that 3d picture, you can go in and square by square, mile by mile, inch by inch, you can look for anything that tells you something might be there. Again, to get to this point, to use all those tools, you have to narrow it down. If they cant master those currents up there and complete the search of everything in that area, they are going to have no business going down here, because they simply it is useless. You are trying to search too big of an area with too small of a tool. Malaysia is tweeting for help. The minister tweeted an sos for hightech hydrophones. The minister will also speak with the u. S. Secretary of defense. The main part of a hydrophone is the transducer. It makes it easier to listen to the pings from the black boxes. The United States has such equipment. As you heard tom foreman say, it is useless unless the search area is greatly reduced to about 5,000 feet. You know where to put those hydrophones in the water. We do remain hopeful. 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Hi, sam. Thanks for having me on. Thanks for being with us. One of the frustrations is, it takes four hours for these planes to get to the search site. They can only fly two hours and then they have to turn around and go back. Thats a big frustration, isnt it . It is. It has to do with the nature of the aircraft and what they are designed to do, which is mainly to hunt sub marmarines, the australian p3 and the one from the u. S. You are asking them to go beyond what they are ordinarily designed to do. Would it be nice to have an Aircraft Carrier closer to the debris site . Believe it or not, that wouldnt be as effective for the aerial search, because the p8s are too large to be used on an Aircraft Carrier. They are a terrestrial aircraft for the most part. Tell us how they can spot things underneath the water so far down. Well, the p8s are designed for submarine warfare. There are a couple of things that they have got on board to help them find submarines. They have essentially got a censor that can detect metal, like steel. Thats one thing they have. They have a really big radar mounted on board. It is the apy 10. Which is a very sophisticated radar that only searches the surface, however. Then, they also have whats called an electrooptical increment censor. A very sophisticated video camera thats underneath the airplane that can zoom in very close to objects on the water. One limitation that they do have is they are designed to find submarines which are noisier than regular debris lying on the ocean. So all of their sonar equipment, which is what you would use underneath the water, is more or less not going to be terribly effective looking for anything underneath the water. The assets that they have are set up in the submarine finding mission to look for, for example, a pair owe scope thats on the surface. The wake from at peroscope on the surface or surface ships on the move. They are probably the best aircraft available probably in the world to do this mission but it is still not what they are primarily designed to do. So they are pinchhitting for lack of a better term. We often see, like weve been on one of those planes. We often see members of the crew looking out the door of the aircraft and then they drop these buoys from the plane. What are they doing . Those buoys in context to this mission probably are markers to let them know where they have been before. I dont know enough about the context of which they were dropping them. Ordinarily, they would be used to find submarines. Essentially, they are great, big microphones that are connected by radio to the aircraft. So you would drop the sonobuoy in a place where you think a submarine might be. It would either send out a sonic signal through the water and listen for it to bounce back off the submarine or it would be a highly sensitive microphone that would pick up, folks, the calf tation of a submarines propeller or engine noise or anything the submarine would do in the water that is able to be picked up on a microphone and transmitted back by radio to the aircraft. I know these guys are expert fliers, i personally always worry about everybodys safety. This is a very windy part of the world with very choppy seas. How low do they fly . I just wondered how the wind affects them . So p8s were designed to operate actually on the level of a regular airliner. So youve got the cruising altitude of a p8 poseidon at about 30,000 feet, based on the airframe of a 737. Thats ordinarily probably where they operate from. They can get as low as they need to to go and detect submarines. It all depends on the context of the mission. You could go much, much lower than 30,000 feet. So a scenario cob a p8 at a very High Altitude could detect something with its radar and go in for a closer look and dip down several thousands of feet to get a better look with that video camera thats mounted underneath there. It all depends on the context of the situation. Those pilots are all very well trained and they know to keep an eye out for weather and how to stay safe in those kind of conditions. Im glad they do. Sam lagrone, thanks for your insight. They help power your laptops and cell phones but have known to overheat and cause fires. Lithium eye on batteries were in the cargo of that missing Malaysian Airlines jet. Could they be to blame . Well talk about that next. I heard about progressives name your price tool . I guess you can tell them how much you want to pay and it gives you a range of options to choose from. Huh . Im looking at it right now. Oh, yeah . Yeah. Whats the. Guest room situation . The name your price tool, making the world a little more progressive. 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In the past, they have overheated and in some cases caused crashes. Joining me now, bob francis, former vice chairman of the ntsb. Welcome, bob. Thanks for being here. I appreciate it. Officials stress these batteries were packed properly and according to all guidelines. In your mind, could they really pose a danger . Potentially, they could. Fire is certainly one of the things that were considering. As we look at what happened out there. I think that perhaps lithium batteries in the cargo hold might have sent us down some trails that are a little different than this but given how little is really understood of the entirety of what happened, its something thats going to have to be looked at just as closely as anything else. What do you mean, if lithium batteries are to blame, they would have sent us down different paths. Well, i think that instead of focusing on the cockpit of the airplane and the controls, et cetera, that there would have been other things that would have been happening if the fire had been a general fire in the aircraft coming up in the cargo hold. The pilots would have had time to sound some sort of alarm if there was smoke or fire in the airplane, right. That, theoretically would apply to the cockpit as well. If there was something that they felt was just in the cockpit, they might have been a little less prone to call right away. So the working theory right now seems to be the plane was sort of flying to nowhere and crashed when it ran out of fuel. Just because thats a working theory, are we any closer to knowing if that theory is correct . The answer to that is no. I think you have to predicate your reaction and what youre using your resources for on something. Thats as good a starting point as there is at this stage. So as you watch the search for this debris take place, they cant find anything. At first, australian officials were hopeful. One came out and said, it cobul be a kocargo container. We are less hopeful than a day ago. Given the length of the one piece, 80 feet or whatever it is, makes it pretty unlikely it is the aircraft. So, in your mind, your sitting back and watching all of this, 14 days have gone by. What missing piece of information do we need to really focus this investigation . Well, i think at the stage that we are at now, if we want to find the aircraft, were going to have to find some wreckage on the surface to give us an idea of at least a general idea of where it is. It is enormously difficult, even with air france, where we knew what track they were on coming across the atlantic. It still took two weeks to find out where it was. Other investigators have said that it would be helpful if we had more information about the conversation between air Traffic Controllers and these pilots, not only from this flight but from past flights. But if they had anything pertinent, wouldnt that have come out by now. I would certainly think so. I mean, if the other end is the controllers and i cant imagine that if the controllers thought that there was any reason to have any sort of help from their conversations, they would have reported it. So if you were part of this investigation, what would your level of frustration be . High. I dont mean to be flip but this is as difficult as anything ive ever seen. Im not sure where we go from here unless something is found, unless some wreckage from the aircraft is found. Even if thats the case, its going to be with the currents and the rins and everything else, the tides, to be able to trace a life preserver that you find in the middle of the ocean back to where the fuselage is is going to be an enormous problem. Bob francis, thanks so much for insight. Appreciate it as always. Youre welcome. Wish i could be more positive. Me too but i get it. I understand. Thanks so much. Still to come, a heartbreaking way for the families of malaysian flight 370 as search planes return with no answers. Kate bolduan caught up with one father who is holding out hope for his son. Well have his story next. So you can get out of your element. So you can explore a new frontier and a different discipline. Get two times the points on travel and dining at restaurants from chase sapphire preferred. So you can be inspired by great food once again. Chase sapphire preferred. So you can. Save you fifteen percent or more on Car Insurance. D Everybody Knows that. 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I recall k carol, despite todays search coming up miss, i spoke with one man whose son is missing and particularly of interest as his background as an aviation engineer. He said, he is sure his son had nothing to do with it. He says he welcomes investigation and police have yet to contact him. On some level, do you hope this is not the plane . For some of the families, the discovery of possible debris is being met with despair. For others, hope. Salama omar says he Still Believes his son is alive. With the new developments in the search, he is preparing for any eventual outcome. His some. Karul o mri is an aviation engineer who was a passenger on board. As the days pass, does it get harder or the same . The sadness is still there, he says, but im trying to stay strong. All of the families of the 239 people on flight 370 struggle with the same emotions in their own way. Some venting anger at the malaysian government. In beijing, thursday, paramedics were called to the familys hotel when news of possibly discovering the planes debris broke. There were fears that some might commit suicide. Here in malaysia, many families are staying at one hotel, watching, waiting for any new detail. Mr. Salama, i look at you and you are standing so strong. You are waiting for concrete information. Have you yet allowed yourself to cry over the fear of losing your son . He says he feels extremely depressed, that being with other families makes it more bearable, calms his soul . I ask mr. Salama, if this is the plane that they find off of australia, will he go to perth . He told me, absolutely. He said that Malaysia Airlines has promised if any part of the plane is found, they will be flown to that location. Until then, he waits. Carol . Kate bolduan, many thanks. Still to come in the newsroom, insurance payoffs to some flight 370 families have already gun. 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A 777 like the Malaysia Airlines jet that disappeared likely carries a 2 billion policy. That insures the plane itself. It also includes liability for passengers in case something happens. 239 people aboard a giant aircraft that disappears into the night. Government officials still piecing together information. Family members outraged. Liability insurance can help their families, though that process wont likely be easy. One of the procedures is to insure in the event of a disappearance like this, there is a presumption of death, which is ruled by a court. In some countries, that ruling could be difficult to get but it is essential for the next step of filing a claim. Victims families have protection under whats known as the 1999 montreal convention. Malaysia signed on to that treaty. It outlines where liability claims can be brought including the airlines, country of operation, the location of its corporate h corporate headquarters, a passengers final destination or resident. Whether the ticket is found or not, a basic cause of disappearance will be determined. From a legal point of view, it is not an unprecedented situation, where an aircraft has not been recovered. Indeed, legal cases have been made out many times where the aircraft is not recovered and it is done through circumstantial evidence. That will point to one of two scenarios, that the disappearance was an intentional act, terrorism, suicide, sabotage. In that case, Malaysia Airlines would likely be liable or that a mechanical or systems issue was to blame. If that happens, airplane maker, boeing and other manufactures could be brought into the insurance claim, leading to an even bigger legal process. Lawyers say the claims must be filed on a passenger bypass jury basis through a complex web of payouts, possible lawsuits and legal obligations. With the victims families having already gone through so much at the center. As far as the lawsuit goes, the amount a family can claim depends on everything from the age of the deceased to what the person earned to what country the case is filed in. There is no maximum amount a family can ask for if there is a lawsuit filed. There is a time limitation, that families have up to two years to sue the Airlines Starting from the date that the aircraft should have arrived. Carol . Alison kosik, reporting from new york, thank you. Still to come, a hightech data recorder is getting a second look in the wake of flight 370s disappearance. I reckon a storms a brewin. Reckon so. Reckon you gotta hotel . Reckon, no. Reckon priceline express deals will get you a great deal. Wherever you. Mosey. You reckon . We reckon. Vamonos the spring hotel sale is on at priceline. Com. Save up to 60 on any express deal hotel, when you use code spring 14. I reckon this is one deal you wont want to miss. 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We would know where the aircraft has gone and where it is and we would have information on what happened in the meantime. Canadian Company Flight makes Live Streaming data recorders that send information in real time. It monitors a planes exact location, engine conditions and more. The system transmits every five to ten minutes on a normal flight. If something goes wrong, like the plane deviating from its route, it will start streaming live second by second data. That. That kind of information is not only life saving but lends tremendous security for our country. Unlike those systems, the Technology Behind flight is more intensive, sharing a tremendous amount of information. It can be difficult to monitor and analyze. It is only fitted today to 350 planes. Installed for about 100,000. Normal Data Transmission cost carries between a few dollars to 15 per flight hour and goes up for continuous streaming in a rare emergency. They are very cost sensitive. They will not add additional Safety Measures unless mandated by the federal government z as they look for hightech includes, the hightech data recorder is getting a second look. The technology exists, it is in service. It is economical. The question is how to get more widespread use . This technology might have been helpful if it had more use. It would have been responsible for someone to turn it off if he knew where to look. Carol . Laurie segall, many thanks. Im carol costello. At this hour with berman and michaela starts now. Hello, everyone. Im john berman. Im michaela pereira. It is 11 00 a. M. In the east, 8 00 a. M. Out west. At this hour, stymied, the search for missing malaysian Airlines Flight 370 has turned up nothing despite that possible debris spotted by satellite some 1500 miles off the coast of australia. A huge mobilization is happening with more countries now sending crews to help. Here is where the search stands right now. Two weeks after the boeing 777 disappeared, search planes from