One spirit and keeping them from interacting with demonstrators from another spirit. There were counterdemonstraters counterto the Free Speech Coalition who were there in boston theyre in the name of unity and harmony. So we continue to watch even as demonstrators disburse. Still a lot of people on the street and still youre seeing Boston Police and the city at work trying to keep the harmony in that city. Our poll Lowe Sandoval is there on the ground in boston. Our sarah sidener is also there in boston. Lets go to Polo Sandoval and see whats taken happening from your viewpoint. Reporter its about getting folks to eventually disburse. As you can see riot police here, the members of the Boston Police department are walking the streets because as you mentioned they took to social media a while ago and saying that this free speech rally is over which was scheduled to end at 2 00, so everything seems to be on schedule, however we have seen a few tense moments including just down the street as were told were some of these quote unquote free speech demonstrators being led out of the area came facetoface with some of these counterdemonstraters, Police Officers really having to shift into high gear to stand between these two individuals and the process weve counted at least nine people been detained, appear to be counterdemonstraters as well. So again thats what happens happening right now in the streets of boston just southeast of Boston Common where you are still seeing hundreds of people mainly counterdemonstraters still lingering in the streets. Now the one challenge is over, the next challenge for Law Enforcement here is clear the streets. All right. Thank you. Lets check in with sarah from your vantage point, what are you seeing . Reporter there are still hundreds, if not thousands of counterprotesters here. Youve got the antifascist here. Theyre pretty much breaking out. That crowd did a few speeches, people cheered and they decided that they were sort of done and people can hang out in the park if theyd like. You do still have a large contingent of the rally organized by black lives matter. We are walking over to that right now. Boston common is the first park ever to be created in the United States officially, if you will and so it has a historical meaning to those who are here in boston and to americans as a whole. This place right now is the scene of what was two different demonstrations. One the socalled free speech demonstration and one of the things white people were upset about that demonstration why people were upset about that demonstration, one of the speakers listed had also spoken in charlottesville during the white supremacist rally and so people saw it as basically a different name for a racist group, the group itself has said, we organized this and we are not racist. We are just here to be able to express our views and everyone in america should have that chance but that is not how it was seen by obviously thousands of people in boston who have gathered here. I do want to talk about something that happened about ten, 15 minutes ago. There was a rally from the crowd all of a sudden you saw people running, running towards a gate and a street and what they were saying was they were chanting dont engage, dont engage because youve got thousands of people here. The person who was being detained from the police was from the Free Speech Movement and you saw him walking through the streets and you saw the black lives matter group. Dont engage. They dont want to see violence. An interesting juxtaposition there. There have been some from the counterprotesters who have been in the streets and police trying to push them away and some of them being detained as well. This has been a peaceful rally. A rally filled with people who wanted to show the world what boston is about. A city that has had a long history of a racial divide and racially charged issues here. Fredericka. Thank you so much. Lets talk more about some of the tense scenes that we were seeing, a collection of hundr s hundreds, if not thousands of people. We welcome our panel. So cedric, let me begin with you, as a former police chief, you know how do you think boston is doing so far in trying to maintain the peace there . Well, i certainly believe in comparison to last weekend theyre doing an exceptionally good job. They had an opportunity to plan. They have experience in managing large crowds for a number of reasons over the years there in boston and certainly youre going to always have a few people that youre going to have to contend with and maybe even arrest but all Things Considered up to this point, they seem to be managing things very well from all the indication of the reports were receiving but it is a very tough and difficult job for them because they have the responsibility of making sure that everyone has an opportunity to exercise their First Amendment right peacefully but in addition to that they also have to be ready to step in if theres indication or suggestion or intelligence that would indicate that things need to come to an end. And jonathan, you did a great job earlier describing what you were seeing and helping us understand what we were seeing when we saw police in all in black with their helmets and then using their bodies and also they had batons. They werent hitting anyone but they were holding them up to help maintain a distance between demonstrators. Were looking at that image again one more time. If you could describe for us the technique there and why that is so effective. Absolutely. The primary goal is when you have a protest and a counterprotest groups that are converging on each other, Law Enforcement will always the methodology is to get in between those two groups and try to keep them separated. To keep them separated from physical violence while still allowing everybody to express their First Amendment rights of free speech. Law enforcement want to ensure that through that expression theres no ability to from one side or another to enact any violence upon each other. Really great job today by Law Enforcement. Theyve had a little bit of time to plan for this and really talk to the different groups that they knew were going to be present today. So i think really great job by the Law Enforcement up to this point in time. Right now, the official events are over so this is a critical moment for Law Enforcement because as the groups disburse, what you dont want to happen is for pockets of individualized violence to occur between these groups around the city and all of a sudden you start disbursing your Law Enforcement assets across the city, so critical time right now for the Boston Police and the Massachusetts State Police to gather intelligence, understanding where the groups are going, ensure that theres still separation and that no violence occurs citywide. Paige, one of the demonstrations was billed as a free speech rally and counterprotesters who said they were there in the name of unity. When you hear from some of the folks who are part of the free speech rally of some of their jargon is, free speech is under attack and assault under america and thats why they are there, what is the case . Is free speech in trouble . Well, were seeing it play out across the country. I dont think its at all in trouble. I think what were seeing with the protesters is exactly how free speech is supposed to work in the United States. What is not supposed to happen is when it crosses over into violence. So the things that youre hearing from these protesters, the folks that came out in the free speech protest. Its disturbing to many people and it creates raw feelings and you can understand that temptation to push back but as long as both groups can remain peaceful, they both have a right to say what they want, even if you dont defend what the people on the freedom of speech side are saying, i defend very much their side to say it. Hate speech is protected, freedom of speech is a very big umbrella. Absolutely. You cannot regulate the content of the message. Now you can regulate and you can punish when that message goes beyond expression, when it goes into threats of violence, enticing other people to violence, pushing back physically against other counterprotesters, that is criminal act and you can punish that. But the message itself, even if its full of hate, you cannot punish it as a crime. Is it your view that we had a guest on earlier who said, you know, some groups are cloaking themselves, you know, with the names of Constitutional Rights and its very deceiving and that is problematic too. Its not deceiving if theyre going to limit their message to a message, to an expression and not to a threat of violence. Now, when you see a protester walking down the street talking about free speech, having a hate filled message and carrying a firearm or using a threat to injury someone whose in the crowd, thats problematic and thats a crime and thats what cedrics talking about. You cannot criminalize the message itself no matter how distasteful it is. How much of what were seeing in boston today, the spirit behind many number of peoples motivation of being there, how much do you believe that is a mike crow cause of what is happening across this nation . I think what were seeing are also Fringe Groups particularly what we saw down in charlottesville, et cetera, thats not to minimize their impact or their importance as part of this conversation unfortunately, what i think is interesting i agree with paige is this revival of american civil disobedience in many ways. Generations havent seen for a quite some time and so were seeing this resurgence and revitalization. We saw it with the womans march and black lives matter and were seeing it now with these demonstrations. Its exactly that point that if we can have these rallies and these protests where were not losing lives in the process and that essentially underscores our right to do that but at the same time we are also at a moment in American History where we are reexamining and really taking a deep look at where we stand as americans on Critical Issues of culture and really of our democracy. And is there a feeling perhaps cedric that this is the beginning of fairly regular, you know, demonstrations of this caliber and if that is the case that even Law Enforcement is starting to reevaluate in which how it will tend to these . Well, if these are going to be events thats going to expose and push back against evil and hatred and superiority of someone feeling that because theyre from another race, then im going to tell you something, in this democracy that we live in, then we should stand up and have a voice because it should not be accepted, it should not be allowed to be kept dormant any more and i think if President Trump has done any one particular thing hes allowed this nation to actually to confront this vial racism and hatred that is taking place. As we begin to talk more about it, as we confront it and deal with it, hopefully itll make for a better nation because this is something i think that every panelist there and yourself knows that when it comes to issues around race and fairness and impartialality weve been struggling with that in this country for a very long time. So if nothing else, what these rallies are saying and what its all making us very conscious of, whether we want to be conscious of it or not, were not going to acceptify are or escape the fact. Its an issue that needs to be dealt with and those who spew that type of hatred, we all as americans, black, white, men, women, gays, jews, whoever, none of us going to stand by any longer and people are going to have a voice. We have to do it in a legal and lawful way. Well leave it right there for now. Stay with us. Thank you so much. Well continue to monitor the situation in boston as crowds disburse. Well be right back. So she only earns double miles on purchases she makes from that airline. Whatd you earn double miles on, please . Ugh. Thats unfortunate. Theres a better option. The capital one venture card. With venture, you earn unlimited double miles on every purchase, everywhere, every day. Not just airline purchases. Seems like a nobrainer. Whats in your wallet . 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Live pictures right now out of boston as we understand demonstrations are beginning to disburse there. Hundreds if not thousands of people have descended on the city with duelling demonstrations. Police even at one moment pushing back against protesters as tensions continue to rise, the objective, we understand, from Boston Police was to try to separate one group of demonstrators from another group of demonstrators so that the two did not produce any unrest by clashing. These protests come amid harsh backlash toward the president of the United States over his mixed messages on the deadly charlottesville, virginia, clashes last weekend. All of this as the firing of chief strategist steve bannon is highlighting a dramatic shift in the president s inner circle. Trump is spending the day at his jersey golf course. The president is not on the scene, but apparently he has been tweeting and what is the president been saying . Reporter so far weve gotten no indication that the president is watching the events in boston unfold. He is thot tweeted about them specifically and weve not gotten clarity on the white house as to exactly what the president is doing today, whether or not hes on the golf course or not but his tweets earlier today, two of them specifically referenced steve bannon, the former white house chief strategist that we learned yesterday was fired by the administration. The first tweet that the president sent out, he writes, i want to thank steve bannon for his service. He came to the campaign during my run against crooked hillary clinton. It was great. Thanks, s. That s referring to steve bannon. The president went on to tweet, quote, steve bannon will be a tough and smart new voice maybe even better than before. Fake news needs the competition. Bannon is on the mind of the president , though. Its interesting that in those tweets he didnt mention any of Steve Bannons work in the white house in his position as chief strategist. Beyond that, his other tweet today focused on a major point of dissension between steve bannon and other Top White House officials. Afghanistan, the president tweeting about his meetings yesterday with top military brass saying they came to some important decisions, one of them being on afghanistan, though, cnn did reach out to the pentagon and got a response, saying, that there was no new announcements or information from the department of defense so the president obviously keeping this information close and as you said, fred, he has no public appearances today so the press cant ask him about this new approach in afghanistan, the firing of steve bannon or these protests were seeing in boston and elsewhere. Or even ask the president any further about the president and first lady not attending the upcoming December KennedyCenter Honors which is traditionals for president s to be in attendance and also host the reception. Reporter youre absolutely right, fred. Thats another piece of information we got from the white house this morning. This is a big deal. This is only the fourth time that a sitting president is going to miss the Kennedy Center honors. And the quote that we got from the white house was quote, the president and first lady have decided not to participate in this years activities to allow the honorees to celebrate without any political distraction. Now interestingly enough, several of these honorees included norman leer, lie nell ritchie would say they would boycott the reception at the white house. This is just one more instance of backlash against the president after his comments in charlottesville. We also saw the implosion of some of those special councils that he put together, the Manufacturing Council and Infrastructure Council that didnt really get off the ground. Were also seeing several charities move events away from maralago, the susan g. Komen foundation, the red cross, the Salvation Army as well. So this is clearly a trend of people moving away from the president , not limited to those within his own party. We saw several members of the gop come out and call the president out by name, saying that he needs to apologize for his comments on charlottesville going back to last tuesday, fred. All right. Thank you so much. And well be right back. Safety technology ex at the lexus golden opportunity sales event before it ends. Lease the 2017 gx 460 for 429 a month for 36 months. Experience amazing at your lexus dealer. Can make anyone slow downt and pull up a seat to the table. Thats why she takes the time to season her turkey to perfection, and make stuffing from scratch. 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Its been a rather tense day in boston where thousands of people were marching against hate following last weekends deadly clashes in charlottesville, virginia. Many of the counterprotesters are still lingering there. Heres what one of them said about today. I was down crosser to the ban stand earlier and i did not feel safe. There was quite a bunch of it seemed like yelling and physical pressure and aggression going on and, frankly, i wanted to live that area and come up here. I didnt feel safe and i felt that there was too much of the kind of hatred going on that were trying to protest against. So you had at least two types of protests taking place in boston, one saying it was there in the name of free speech, the other saying it was there in the name of stamping out hate. So cnns Polo Sandoval and sarah sidener are both there and live on the ground. Po polo, first to you whats going on . Reporter behind me is really the last substantial last substantial crowd that is still gathering here in Boston Common. I can tell you that the crowd has been thinning out for the last hour, hour and a half or so. We have seen today evolve significantly. The day started out very quiet and then slowly we zbin to see people make their way here to the heart of the city of boston where people where the Police Departments main challenge was simply keeping apart these two dualing protests and then of course things changed significantly when those quote free speech demonstrators left the area and then the challenge became for Law Enforcement is protecting them and as we heard from some of those individuals, they had to move them out of here in Police Transport vehicles but now here we are again. Last Significant Group thats still behind me but really a major difference from what we saw a little while ago. Thank you so much. Far away sarah sidener, sarah . Reporter so were standing here where the remnants of the group that helped organize this is black lives matter and theyve been giving speeches and telling people to stand in solidarity with those who suffered in charlottesville. Theyve also been talking about some of the other issues that effect this city in boston. If you talked to some of the people of color in boston, you will hear that this city has a long way to go to zeal with racism. This is a city that has a long history of racism and there is a lot of speech about the fact that jobs are needed for people of color as well in this city. I want to bring in young gentleman named Tony Thompson who supports black lives matter cambridge. Can you tell me what its like being black in a city like boston where a lot of people think as sort of lib ral place and you dont hear a lot about the racism unless you hear about what happens who come to play for the Boston Red Sox or play against them . Theres so many different experiences that are here that happened here when youre a person of color in boston and its like, you would think that youre like me. I was raised here and youre constantly seeing i was raised in cambridge. I was raised in utnewton court d everything around it is now all white. The stores, the people, the everything is now all white. Even my boy mike here hes from cambridge as well. He moved over to places Like Mission Hill which used to be a place of color and now its turning into a whole bunch of other people, the rates are going up. Its difficult, very difficult. Reporter can i ask you about what happened here today and how you would describe the people and the numbers . Were you surprised at the numbers of people who came out to stand up and say, we dont want any sort of racism to continue in this city and also stand against this rally that came . To be honest with you, no, i was not. Its sad at the fact i was not. The reason why because sometimes when it comes to things like this, its unfortunate but it takes a white woman dying to get the national attention. This is a problem. Police brutality is a