Challenges is, as you pointed out, that cases are actually on the rise where we are here in tulsa. And in the state of oklahoma. But tulsa is really leading the charge. More populous parts of the state do not have as many cases as they do here. And Health Officials have been warning that this kind of event, 19,000 people inside an arena, indoors, not Wearing Masks largely, weve seen very few people wearing the masks that theyve been giving out, its a potential for this virus to spread just from one or two or a few people who might not even know they are infected. The other problem for a lot of these folks is that theyre coming from all over the country. Theyre going to if they do become infected here, they may very well take the virus back to their home towns to their families. But by and large, what you hear here from the supporters is that, to them, the most important thing is to be able to show support to President Trump at this particular time. Theyre taking their cues from him about whether or not this rally is something that is safe for them to do or a relative acceptable risk for them to take. Theyre also taking their cues from him about whether or not to wear a mask. Remember, President Trump has personally not worn a mask and has used mask wearing as a liability against his political opponents and his supporters agree with that assessment. Many of them are simply saying, its just, for them, something that they dont feel like they have to do. So, abby, youve got your mask on and you reported earlier that theyre dispensing masks as well as these, you know, clear kind of face shields. But then we also knew that reportedly they were going to be taking temperatures. Is any of that happening . Is there are people taking advantage of Hand Sanitizer . Are there any precautions that people are taking advantage of as they enter . Well, there are going to be. So as people are as people are walking in, theyre going to be handed masks. Now, the face shields seem to be something that an individual has taken upon themselves to hand those out to. But inside the arena, theyre going to be theyre also going to be given Hand Sanitizer from the campaign. And then the Management Company for the arena has also said they will have hundreds of Hand Sanitizer stations all over that arena. You know, to keep in mind here, inside the arena theyre going to have concession stands. People are going to be eating and drinking. The arena themselves theyre concerned about making sure that as they are providing services to people who are in there that they are also taking Health Precautions for their employees as well. So its not really clear what is going to happen. They have just started streaming into that arena. Its not clear yet, well know in a few hours whether people are going to don their masks once that room gets more crowded. Whether they will be using Hand Sanitizer thats available to them. But just the attitudes that weve heard so far seem to indicate that many people say or believe that they are personally at less risk and they personally are willing to take on whatever risk there may be. And what about weve been reporting all week these signed waivers, essentially people saying, you know, if they were to get sick, they wouldnt sue the Trump Organization or the white house. Whos collecting those and is that really the case that they are being collected . People signed waivers . Well, you know, its really not clear what kind of, you know, protection that gives anyone. But when you rsvpd to this rally and requested a ticket, you had to check a box that said i agree to this waiver that says im not going to sue President Trump or the campaign. Real questions, though, about whether that is actual that actually has any kind of legal force. And secondly, i mean, one of the concerns that ive heard locally from officials here is does that actually protect the bok center which is hosting this event which has canceled a lot of other events all summer because of the coronavirus. If someone does get sick, will any of these parties be held liable . Its really very much unclear. And i think that this is going to be one of those open questions going forward, who was responsible and can that responsibility simply be waived away by just checking a box online when you request an rsvp or a ticket. All right, abby, thank you so much in tulsa. As many Trump Supporters in tulsa show little concern about packing, you know, all these bodies into the arena there for the president s rally, the manager of major factory in the area is taking a much more cautious approach in order to keep his employees safe. Here now is cnns gary tuchman. Reporter Trump Supporters started lining up for his tulsa rally days ago. Plus i want to be front row, front and center. Reporter the daily number of new covid cases is skyrocketing in tulsa county, at the highest level yet. Thousands of people will be inside this arena and outside it for many hours. Masks are being given out. But theyre not required to be worn, and social distancing is not mandatory. I have absolutely no no concern whatsoever. It just doesnt concern me at all. Reporter rallygoers must agree not to hold the Trump Campaign responsible if they contract covid, which is not a red floog anyoag we talk to her do i french kiss anybody . No. But when i can stand and went to a dinner house and the lady says you want more coffee, i felt normal. Normal. Nothing about this concerns you . None. Zero. Reporter but in this very same city, why did you decide to close this place . Well, its for the safety of our employees. Rodney is the manager of the nava star school blus plant be in tulsa where 1400 people work. Last year we were the number one market share of Building School buses in america. Reporter he shut down his plant this week. Confirmed covid cases have been rapidly climbing over the past couple weeks. I purchased 1400 covid kits. Reporter earlier this week all the employees who are still being paid were told to come in to get tested. Based on the results, the decision will be made how long the plant has to stay closed. When its operating, nearly 300 buses are made here each week. Lots of money is being lost. But the plant manager says this was the responsible decision in an increasingly vulnerable city. Ive got to make sure people are safe. Reporter this is one of his people, a husband and father of three. I think it was the right decision and for our safety, not only my safety, but the safety of my family because i fwlang ho bring that home if i do get it. With thousands of people in this arena, many or most without masks, how worried are you about a dramatic spike in cases in this county . You know, in any event with people not Wearing Masks were concerned. But with this many people, thousands of people . Were concerned. People coming together without taking precautions is what causes the virus to transmit. It gives the virus the ability to transfer from person to person. Of course were concerned. Because im not going to get it. Im not going to give it to someone else. Reporter how do you know that . Its the same thing if you get a damn cold. One city, two completely different visions. A factory where people are relieved not to be inside because of the health threat, and an upcoming rally where people cant wait to get inside despite the health threat. Reporter the plant manager says hes prepared for the possibility of many more of his employees testing positive. We take it seriously and it will continue to drive our energies until we drive it thought of plant. Reporter gary tuchman, cnn, tulsa, oklahoma. And now to this Major Development in the legal standoff over an explosive book on the Trump Administration. A federal judge now ruling that former National Security adviser john boltons book can hit store shelves blocking a Trump Administration push to stop its release. Lets go now to the white house and cnns kristen holmes. The president is claiming this a victory even though boltons book will be available to all. Reporter thats right. It will be available for publication and for people to purchase as early as tuesday at book stores. The reason the president is calling this a victory is because of the other points that the judge made. While, he said, that the Justice Departments arguments were not enough to stop the book, he also slammed bolton from pushing through this publication, getting that done without the proper approval from the white house. And he left the door open for potential charges or punishments down the road. In fact, he said if there is classified information in the book, that bolton could lose profits, that he could exposed to criminal liability. And then, of course, that this could be in peril to in peril to National Security or in peril of National Security. A lot of stuff here town pack. President trump, as you said, is saying this is a victory. He says that Big Court Win against bolton. Obviously with the book already out and leaked to many people and the media, nothing the highly respected judge could have done about stopping it. But strong and powerful statements and rulings on money and on breaking classification were made. Bolton broke the law and has been called out and rebuked for so doing with a really big price to pay. Im going to stop there because the other part is unclear what hes talking about. Boltons own attorney has issued a statement, we want to pull that up. He says we welcome todays decision by the court denying the governments attempt to suppress ambassador boltons book. We respectfully take issue, however, with the courts preliminary conclusion that the early stage of the case that ambassador bolton did not fully comply with his contractual prepublication obligation to the government. And the case will now proceed to development of the full record of that issue. The full story of these events has yet to be told, but it will be. Very clear here this is just the beginning, that is the attorney is saying the story is still going to be told, but right now we do know that that book will be out. They do have permission to put that out there on tuesday. All right. Thank you so much. All right. 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Well, fred, it doesnt happen very often in this building where the attorney general says, hey, youre fired and the person who is supposed to be fired says, no, im not. Im not going to go anywhere. So thats really what the situation that developed yesterday there are was a meeting in new york between the attorney general bill barr with jeff berman, the u. S. Attorney in manhattan. He was offered another job, told we need you to step down and were going to offer you a position here at main justice at the headquarters of the Justice Department running the civil division. Berman declined that offer and, according to sources, berman thought there was going to be further conversation. He didnt realize that just a few hours later the Justice Department was going to issue a press release in which the attorney general said that berman was stepping down and he named a new nominee, jay clatytn who is going to be, according to the Justice Department, the new nominee for the u. S. Attorneys office in manhattan. As youve pointed out, fred, this is a powerful office, this is an office that runs a lot of sensitive investigations, including, of course, the one that is focusing on rudy giuliani, the president s personal attorney. Its an investigation, of course, that has gotten under the skin of the president and bill barr, the attorney general has now decided that this is something that he wants closer perhaps closer management of. So we are now at a standoff. We dont know how this will end. It appears though, fred, berman is relying on one fact here, which is that technically he has been appointed by the court, by the judges in new york. Theres a quirk in the law here whereby he has been sitting there without actually ever Getting Senate confirmation and so right now hes sitting there as an appointee of the court. So the question is, does bill barr have the power to fire him . Certainly the president does, so were waiting to see whether or not the president actually does that. All right, evan perez. Thanks so much for that. Thanks. And this breaking news into cnn. Weve just learned several members of President Trumps staff in tulsa have tested positive for covid19. Were live next. Its not pretty good or nothing. Its not acceptable or nothing. And its definitely not close enough or nothing. Mercedesbenz suvs were engineered with only one mission in mind. To be the best. In the category, in the industry, in the world. Now, get 0 apr financing up to 36 months on most models and 90day firstpayment deferral on any model. Mercedesbenz. The best or nothing. No no no no no, theres no space there maybe over here . Hot hot oven mitts oven mitts everythings stuck in the drawers im sorry oh, jeez. Hi. Kelly clarkson. Try wayfair oh, ok. Its going to help you, with all of. This yeah, here you go. Thank you oh, i like that one [ laugh ] thats a lot of storage perfect. 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They come in days before a president ial event, they scope the site, they figure out where everythings supposed to go and happen before the event. Now, six of those individuals have tested positive and ill read the statement from the Trump Campaign on what happened. The Campaign Communications director says per safety protocols, Campaign Staffers are tested for covid19 before events. Six members of the advanced team tested positive out of hundreds of tests performed and quarantine measures were immediately implemented. No covid positive staffer or anyone in immediate contact will be at todays rally or near attendees and elected officials. As previously announced, all rally attendees are given temperature checks before going through security at which point they are given wristbands, face masks, and Hand Sanitizer. So, again, as weve been discussing, those precautions are being taken, but the question is will attendees wear masks which we know according to the scientists and doctors and Health Experts will slow the spread of this virus. It is not clear the Campaign Still says they will not enforce mask wearing inside that arena. Fred. And, of course, you know, we still need detail of prior to this positive covid testing what the behaviors and practices were of these individuals. Is there any belief that well get that kind of information . Reporter its not clear. But as you said, its a critical question. Were these staffers Wearing Masks around each other as they scoped the site, as they walked around tulsa in the problem for all of this is that it only takes one person to spread the virus to, you know, innumerable other people that they come in contact with, especially if theyre not taking precautions. We simply dont know. Well be asking the campaign to answer that question. But if, you know, if the campaign or. It white house staff is any indication, as they go about their day to day lives on the white house expound acompound a on what they said, white house staffers said some of them are not Wearing Masks. It is an open question whether some of these staffers who have been in this question probably for several days now have been Wearing Masks in their routine interactions with other people. Among those who said, you know, they wouldnt wear a mask or anything like that was the White House Press secretary. She was pretty emphatic that its her choice and shes not going to. But i wonder if news of these positive cases now will change that approach, you know, within a matter of hours or minutes. I mean, the Vice President is already close to being en route, correct . He is. And in addition to that, you know, theyre presumptively going to be engaged in Contact Tracing for these individuals. Every one of these people might have had contact with dozens of people within the campaign, outside of the campaign. Can they do that in enough time to ensure that are no one who had contact with those people are anywhere near this event, anywhere near individuals who will be coming to this event. Its a tall order, its also not clear, i should say, when they learned of these positive tests. We learned about it today via a statement, but its not clear when the campaign did. That matters, because how much time theyve had to figure this out will matter. We are five or six hours away from when events are going to start getting under way here. Thats a short period of time do all that tracing if it was today. What an incredible reality check just now hours before this event gets under way with the president on the stage. But, again, the doors have already opened, we saw people beginning to file inside that arena. Abby philip in tulsa, thank you so much. Lets talk more about all of this. Joining me now is the epidemiology professor and Global Health director at ucla. All right. Good to see you. So, you know, abby brings up some incredible points there talking about, you know, when were these positive tests discovered . Has tracing has there been enough time to conduct any kind of tracing . And what were the behaviorsnd a the practices of at least the six who have tested positive of the advanced team. What questions do you have . Fred, i think youre asking all the right questions. We all really would like to know who are these people . Where have they been . Exactly who theyve been in contact with. Were they taking precautions . When did they arrive . Tulsa . You know, testing is youre not going to test positive the first day that you become infected. In fact, the probability of testing positive is very low within the first five to seven days of being infected. So the fact that these these people are positive today is only reflective of what their exposure was a week to two weeks previous. And thats so in other words they could have been sorry to interrupt. It means, too, that they could have been asymptomatic for a number of days coming into contact with people before this positive test, if it was today or yesterday or whenever it was rendered . Absolutely. And its unclear whether or not you test positive if the day or two before that if you are infectious. Because we do know about this issue of being presymptomatic then having then having, you know, a couple days before you have symptoms, you were very contagious. But this is a big question of when you test positive, have you been contagious or not prior to that test positive . Because we dont know that these people have had symptoms, we just know that theyve tested positive. You surprised, too, that we would learn that there would be a statement coming out, you know, from the white house on its advanced team that they would even reveal that these six have tested positive when the white house has been, you know, really so brazen and defiantly telling the world that they dont want to wear masks and that its up to you and that, you know, people are being asked to sign waivers, come to this rally at your own risk. Fred, theres so many things thats surprised me. This is this is one of a long list. So, yes, i think that its very interesting and intriguing that they have actually let us know that there are people that are positive. And i wonder what the impact will be. I think that this should be a stark warning to people that people are testing positive and that this should be very seriously considered. We all have great fear as to what is going to be happening in this particular event that is forthcoming. Yeah. With thousands of thousands of people in this arena. Thanks so much. Well keep a close eye on all of this. Well have much more on this breaking news at the top of the hour. Thanks so much for joining me today. The cnn special risk take wers rachel crane starts right now. Welcome to the cnn Business Risk takers special. Im rachel crane. Following the death of george floyd in police custody, people across the country are demanding an end to systemic racism. Businesses have to be a part of that solution from diversity on corporate boards and leaders times, to more inclusive hiring and end products. Joining me now is tristan walker, the founder and ceo of Walker Company brands. A company focused on selling personal Care Products for people of color. Tristan, thank you so much for joining us today. Thanks for having me, rachel. Does this moment feel any different to you, tristan . I think so. Its a very powerful thing to see, folks Standing Firm in what they truly believe in. Not only companies themselves, but the employees of those companies, the consumers of those companies who are humans themselves, who believe in justice, who believe in equity, who believe in fairness. And its a really powerful thing for us to see and kind of stand firm and get behind it. Im very excited about what the future looks like as a result. What can businesses do to make sure that these promises, you know, theyre not just empty words. When i think about walker and company, you know, theres a threestep process that we like to take. And at least inspire other companies to do. First and foremost is really to acknowledge the trauma that, you know, many of us face, right . Folks, especially in my company who majority of folks are color, the trauma that we face every single day of dealing with kind of these issues related to justice and fairness and equity. The second step is really modeling the way. A lot of Companies Really talk about the values that they have at their companies. And i challenge those companies to see do those employees know what thats values are . Are they Standing Firm in those values . Are they making decisions in line with those values in the only way you can model the way is stand firm in those convictions of your values. And the last thing that we do is just act. And its not action for actions sake, it isnt only about donating to a few organizations. Its actually following up. You know, are you hiring folks who represent the audience that youre serving . Are you putting folks on your boards that represent the audience there youre serving . When i think about folks of color more broadly, were ale ready the majority of the world. It is our duty to serve these folks in ways that they deserve to be treated. Sephora says it will dedicate 15 of shelf space to blackowned companies. Do you think that other retailers should follow that lead . I think a lot of brands should think about why only 15 . You know, in a world where when i think about folks of color being the majority of this country in 20, 30 years, why not kind of push for that future, right . Whos to say that our cap is only 15 . I think it is a wonderful start, but, you know, should we be asking can half of our store represent the needs for this growing audience . Can more than half of this store represent the need for this growing audience . Its important that we have some of that Bold Thinking so that we can really push the envelope in orders of magnitude with what we all expect. But its a great start and i hope to see more of it. That Bold Thinking is one of the reasons that youre a successful entrepreneur. But tell us about the challenges that you faced as a black founder when you first started your business. Yeah, no, thank you, rachel. The one thing that i say all the time is, you know, i would go to pitch my business to folks on the other side of the table, the muddied interest, who did not represent the diverse stitt ity consume theirs served who did not have an understanding of that we were trying to solve. They didnt have it. And it made it difficult for us at least in the early days to raise the capital that we needed to thrive. But think a key insight there is you need to have a group of folks representing the diversity of the world, right . We are duty bound for it. We all know that more diverse thinking, more diverse boards, more Diverse Companies will lead to more profitable outcomes. Your company is majority people of color, majority women. You make products for people of color. What can other companies learn from you success . I think first of all, respecting the fact that this consumer has a significant amount of purchase power and influence. You know, walker and Company Really started on one view of the world that i still believe to be true, that all Global Culture shred by American Culture which is led by black culture in the u. S. Its a very big deal in the is 2 trillion of purchasing power. In our cat gear egory we have a audience thats not been served in over a hundred years as well as they deserve to be. For us, it was a blue ocean opportunity to do something special. Its not only a walker and Company Specific opportunity, its for everybody. If the majority of the world represents this audience, why arent you serving them in the companies of the future are going to be the ones that understand the importance of that service much in the same way walker and co. Has done. You said before you were a black man before you were a ceo. What is it like to lead through these incredibly tough times . Yeah, i mean, im a black man, i have a black father, im a black husband, im a black son. And its really important for me to keep that perspective. So when i think about my 5yearold son avery and my 1yearold son august, i care about theyre living in a world of fairness, that bends towards justice and equity. You know, its interesting. I am the founder of my own company and the one thing that i try to teach them is that they can produce too, right . They can be owners and find hope in their ownership of what they create. In service of a Consumer Group looks like them, right . Speaks like them, appreciates the same values that they have. And i think about a future where folks are really Standing Firm and convicted in the values that i try to teach them, courage, inspiration, respect, judgment, wellness, loyalty, right . And i feel like if they can live in a world where those things are respected, theyll be happy, ill be happy, and this country will have maidde a hell of a mo gress. Progress. Thank you for joining us. Thank you, rachel. 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So, whitney, coronavirus, its really changed everything about our lives, including dating. So, you know, how are people adapting to dating during a pandemic . What were seeing is that people are really willing to get to know each other a bit better versus jumping in these real Life Experiences with people. And so i think this has been a really interesting moment to recalibrate what it means to get to know each other online. Have you guys noticed any other surprising trends emerge . Its so fascinating to see people build true relationships via video chat. We fundamentally believe that this is just the beginning of getting to know each other through video and through audio. Thats been another really interesting finding is that people are really open to doing audio chat and sending audio notes. So its less about the physical physical connection and theyre really starting to learn about each other emotionally and personalitywise through voice. Its been really fascinating. But, whitney, can virtual dating really replace, you know, inperson connections . No, it will never be a replacement, but it can be a catalyst to filling voids of loneliness and isolation during such confusing moment. And so the desire for something more casual has absolutely dissipated and weve seen uptick in people desiring something more substantial. Are the dating habits and the changes that youre describing that have been adapted during covid19, do you think theyre actually here to stay . We do. We do. We fundamentally believe that they are here to stay. Were seeing a lot of people say that had they not had the video calling feature, had they not be essentially, you know, for better or worse force the into having a more substantial digital connection with someone, they would have never given that person a chance. I think this is going to have longterm impact in a positive way, meaning people will spend more time getting to know each other before they just go jump into real life with essentially is a stranger. Now lets turn to podcasts. As soon as states started issuing stayathome orders, podcast listening plummeted hitting a low point in april, according to one research company. But since then its mostly recovered to prequarantine levels. Joining me now is spotifys chief content officer. Thank you so much for being with us today, dawn. We so he appreciate it. Because people are stuck at home, theyre consuming lots of media, netflix, hulu, and the like. Has the pandemic been a Good Opportunity at all for spotifys podcasts and have you shifted your strategy . What weve seen is that the users just Consumption Habits have changed and shifted. So where many users would listen to podcasts in their cars when they were commuting, now what were seeing is that users are actually listening on their home devices, listening to it on their Television Sets or listening to it even on their gaming consoles. But we still see people listening to their podcasts as theyre working out, were seeing them listening during the day. So its been a shift in pattern and yet i think once things return to normal and people wind up commuting again, the habits that theyre forming now will stay with them. And it just allows for even more time for them to consume podcasts in different times and ways in which theyll do that. You guys took a pretty bold step and signed an exclusive licensing deal with joe rogan. Now his podcast is one of the most popular out there and the wall street journal reported that the deals worth about 100 million. Why make that bet right now . We felt like we needed to have the number one podcaster on our platform in order to really be a winner in this in this medium and this space. So starting in september, his podcast is going to be on the platform. And then in december its going to be exclusively on the platform. Now, when spotify got into the podcast game, i have to say, it was the serious underdog to apple at the time. How is that competition going now . When you look at the progress weve already made, in 60 markets were already ahead of apple. So thats, you know, pretty meaningful because weve only been in the game now for about two years. Dawn, thank you so much for joining us. Thank you, rachel. Coming up, we talk to Chef Jose Andres about how hes feeding those most in need during this crisis. Can i find an Investment Firm with a truly longterm view thats been through multiple market cycles for over 85 years . With capital group, i can. 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Thats a good question and we were quite worried that people would be concerned around the safety of reuses as they should be in a time like this. What im really happy to see is that for loop, sales have actually surged during the pandemic, march, april, may have all set records. A huge part of that is people know that we vhave incredibly cleaning and cleaning rooms. So folks are comfortable with that and its great to see that theyre comfortable with reuse. You guys are expanding nationwide this summer. People will be able to find your products as stores like kroger and walgreens. Will there be new products available . Absolutely. So loop is a platform for reuse. So we work with Amazing Companies from tropicana to hagen das and so many others who create reusable versions of their products. Every day were adding new products. One product a day joins the platform. But its a graig growiowing ecod when your can unwith yore done product, throw it away and we will recycle it. Could doh you believe that recycling could be a potential for coronavirus . It not just could, repsych is willing already a victim of this pandemic. I dont think it will be a deathblow, but its going to be incredibly damaging. You know, in the end recyclers have to spend money to collect and process material, and then they sell that material really competitively to the price of oil. And with oil staying low, its going to make it hard for recyclers to compete. Its not that it will disappear, but a lot of the stuff that was recycled before covid may not be recycled after. This is already in the past ten years recycling has had a lot of headwind economically and has been declining i think covid is making that matter worse. As individuals, what we can do is really think about purchasing goods that are either reusable or something that recyclers can still recycle to help feed them what they want to see. Thank you so much for joining us. Really, really appreciate it. Thanks for having me. And thank you guys for watching. For more risk takers content, check out cnn business. Com risk takers. Cnn newsroom continues next. Youre live in the cnn newsroom. Im anna cabrera in new york and we are following breaking news out of tulsa, oklahoma, with just hours go before the president holds a Massive Campaign rally. We have just learned six Campaign Staffers doing advanced work on this event have tested positive for coronavirus. Lets get a look at the bank of oak centoklahoma center. They had bornd twarned they had all the makings of a spread of this virus. On the right is the overflow crowd outside. Think about it this way. The plan is to pack thousands of people inside the arena for hours shouting, chanting, they dont have to wear a mask. But they doe