Strike on a multitruck convoy after iraq had retaken the city from isis. Its an isis convoy near fallujah. Lets get to elise labott, who joins us by phone. The fight against isis, what can you tell us . Reporter thats right. The operation began monday night and its still ongoing. U. S. Officials tell cnns barbara star that the u. N. Did conduct a precision strike on a convoy coming out of fallujah. U. S. Officials cant say how many isis fighters have been killed, but the iraqis are saying that the convoy had more than 500 vehicles in the Desert Southwest area of fallujah leaving dozens killed. So obviously this is still an ongoing situation, very fluid. But certainly not surprising that the coalition would be stepping up its attack against isis. What does this do to isis, elise . Does this cripple isis . Well, you know that u. S. Coalition working along with iraqi forces have really made a dent in isis. I think, you know, one of the things that youve seen in recent days and weeks is that isis has really lost a lot of territory in the battlefield, not just in iraq, iraqi forces were capturing fallujah in the last week or so, but also in syria, in the manjib area of northwest syria, where kurds with the help of u. S. Air strikes have made a dent in isis. This was part of all of that. Certainly if there were 500 vehicles in the convoy and dozens have been killed, it certainly lab further loss. But not only in terms of numbers killed but in terms of morale, don. One thing weve been talking about since the istanbul attack is that as isis suffers these battlefield losses in iraq and syria, the feeling is that they are going to try to accept up the international plateau. So obviously a big success for iraqi forces in recent weeks in areas like fallujah and also there could be more attacks by isis outside of the battlefield. Dozens of isis militants are killed on a 500vehicle convoy fleeing fallujah. Elise labott is with us on the phone here tonight. Fallujah is just 40 miles from baghdad. Whats the importance of that . Well, it was one of the biggest cities outside of baghdad and mosul. Fallujah is really a big strategic stronghold of isis, but now the big push is going to be towards mosul, and the u. S. And iraqis have been talking about how iraqi forces could advance on mosul. Certainly the u. S. Would like to see that sooner rather than later. Were hearing maybe sometime in the fall. Fallujah obviously a big gain for the iraqi forces but mosul is really the big net target. Elise, stand by. I want to go to cnns ivan watson. Ivan is live in istanbul. I dont know if you have any information on what happened in fallujah, but what is the latest on the terror attack . Well, whats remarkable is that within a matter of hours after three suicide bombers attacked istanbuls ataturk airport, the airport was back open for business again. You can see the traffic coming over my shoulder here, those are taxis, cars coming in and out of the airport, which is back up and running, people putting up little memorials to some of the victims killed in this what looks like it was a coordinated wave of attacks by at least three suicide bombers and the count, the death toll has tragically risen as a 22yearold turkish woman succumb to her injuries in hospital within the last couple of hours. Now the turkish government continues to point the finger at isis as the number one suspect here. They have not yet identified to us and we dont know whether they, themselves, the turkish authorities have figured out who the bombers actually were. The government officials have suggested that they believe the bombers were foreigners. But beyond that we dont know very much except for the fact that they approached the airport on tuesday night in a taxi. They were carrying kalashnikov assault rifles, suicide vests and worked to the to penetrate the airport and get inside and spread mayhem and kill and wound so many people. Were also hearing that investigators are obviously talking to the taxi driver who dropped off the terrorists. Do we know any more about the others who might be involved in this plot or are ready to carry out another one . Reporter thats another part that we dont really know about. What potential accomplices are there. You have to be sure that the Turkish Security forces are hard at work, tracing phones, rounding up intelligence as well, trying to figure this out. And you have to take into consideration the fact that the turkish police, turkish investigators have been pursuing isis for months within turkey, arresting people in a series of raids in different parts of the country, but that has not taken out this cancer that has metastasized in turkey within recent years because isis has now, if this turns out to be an isis attack, this will have been the third suspected isis Suicide Attack in istanbul just this year. It is a presence here, it is very real and this most likely very much a wakeup call to those turks who might not quite have recognized the threat that this group now poses to their country. Senior International Correspondent ivan watson live from istanbul. I want to bring forward bob baier, juliette kayyem. Bob, you first. Your reaction to the news that dozens of isis militants have been killed in air strikes as they fled fallujah. Don, this was almost inevitable. These guys had to leave the city, they had to leave in vehicles and the u. S. Military was lined up to go after these guys. You know, they get on their phones, they can watch it night by i. R. And the rest of it so this was inevitable and were eventually going to push back the Islamic State and take back territory, including mosul. Isis will respond by striking outside the country. Its inevitable theres not much can you do about except rely on the local authorities, like turkey. Was this an operation that was already under way . I think it was coincidental. Weve been watching fallujah. The iraqis have been very good about, you know, closing off the city. There was one route of escape and the isis fighters decided to take it. They decided to take it en masse. Weve seen this in other cities but theyve been more successful when they left tikrit and this time they were almost all reined in. So when they went, they were waiting for them. Can you tell from the weaponry expended, hell fire missiles, cluster bombs, jdams. When you look at this video, what does this tell you . I tell you, this is a lot of ord ordinates going into a lot of different targets. The only time you saw munitions not directed at a specific target were the cluster munitions and thats the tiny flashes, those are submunitions going after pieces of armor or metallic vehicles. This was well planned. This was a lot of aircraft up there doing this. This was probably a dozen aircraft, fully loaded, ready to go and this was great that the iraqis were able to get in on this. I think they needed a shot in the arm, the boost this is going to give them. The Iraqi Army Aviation was rightfully taking a lot of credit for what happened. President barack obama said this yesterday in response to yesterdays attack on isis. Take a listen. Its an indication of how little these vicious organizations have to offer, that beyond killing innocents, they are continually losing ground, unable to govern those areas that theyve taken over, that theyre going to be defeated in syria, theyre going to be defeated in iraq. They are going to be on the run wherever they hide and we will not rest. I should say yesterdays attack and isis. So juliette, these strikes seem to be an example of what he was talking about. Whats your response . Absolutely. Terrorism and counterterrorism are sort of duelling narratives. Yesterday in turkey isis had a successful narrative for them, those pictures, the death toll, where they struck, whether they take credit for it or not was a statement to the outside world and potential recruits that were still in the game. Less than about 24 hours later, the game is up so to speak. We all know they have lost fallujah and the fact that turkey that iraq comes out with a press conference, with these images, this is the counterimages to the airport we saw yesterday. This is to say to the outside world and potential recruits, its all about recruitment now. This is isis. These guys dead now, this is what will end up to you. This will be continuing duelling narratives until isis is eventually defeated, which most of us are pretty confident will happen because youll still have the terrorism because it doesnt need to be directed by a central geographic force. Where do you think isis was trying to flee to . I think they were going to go up to mosul, villages. Its pretty sparse country there, anbar province. You just cant hide from the u. S. Air force. Theyre too advanced. They can watch these people and, again, listening to the phone and communications. You know, mosul, it will fall one day. I agree with juliette. Its just going to fall and so will raqqa. I also agree were going to see this movement spread out in places we do expect it like yes, maam yemen or libya. The sunni are lashing out at the west and theres no easy solution to it period. Everybody stay with me. When we come back, breaking news, major air strikes on isis in fallujah. Cameras take us inside more than ever before but can we learn anything from the tale of the tapes that will help us prevent the next attack . P g. Proud sponsor of moms. Which saves money. Rance a smarter way, like bundling home and auto coverage, which reduces red tape, which saves money. When they save, you save. Thats home and Auto Insurance for the modern world. Esurance, an allstate company. Click or call. Esurance does insurance a smarter way. They offer a single deductible, which means you dont pay twice when Something Like this happens, which saves money. Esurance is built to save. Thats home and Auto Insurance for the modern world. Esurance, an allstate company. Click or call. 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Juliette, im going to start with you. There were three bombs, one in the parking lot, one in the first floor in the departures yaer area, one on the ground floor in the arrivals area. It may have been that they split up, that their original plan was different. Were going to learn stuff and maybe things werent perfect with turkey, but the one image that i keep coming back to is the Police Officer to cleared that hallway. When we talk about what can we do about terrorism to protect people, one is to have quick responses. He saved lots of lives. I am very focused on this taxi cab issue. This is new. Its the second terrorist attack and i do think they are coming to these airports with taxis, theres something to learn from there, something to engage these taxi companies. This is the second time in the last two airport attacks. They get someone to drop them off, who unwittingly is helping. They have no idea. Right. No clue. And then they dont leave a car behind so that that can then be evidence. So, everyone, lets watch the three videos that we have from yesterdays attacks and get your reaction. First this is a video where people are running and then you see an explosion. Bob, you first. What is this telling you all . I tend to frame these things that they knew what they were doing and well find out in thats true. But you set up a bomb in one airport, everybody runs in the opposite direction, it gives you more targets to hit. Also, what im intrigued about is did these guys have dead man switches . If somebodys hit by a bullet, they lose consciousness almost immediately and they dont really think about hitting the plunger on a suicide vest. So im wondering if there wasnt some sort of command control from outside possibility or a dead man switch. In any case, three bombs went off. Sounds like it was all the bombs, and if theyre using home made explosives, acetone peroxide. It tells me they knew what they were doing. That worries me, a team like that getting into the United States and carrying out the same sort of attack. When john brennan talks about this yesterday, its a possibility, we have to take this very seriously. Okay. Lets look at this next video. You see the gunman shot. Hes shot and he falls to the floor right there. It looks like hes shot again right at that point and then you can see him trying to pull something and then he detonates the vest. To you now, colonel francona, youre playing close attention to the terrorist actions in this video. What are you saying . I see a real committed individual who wants to blow up his vest. He knows hes going to die. Hes been shot multiple times. The turkish Police Officer, this is the guy that saved a lot of lives. He downed this guy, went over, and i think he realized either the guy was about to detonate or there was no way to stop the debt nati debtonation. He knew he was going to deand he we die and he went in there specifically to blow himself up. It shows a level of dedication. And it shows who the terrorist is picking to do it, somebody who is absolutely committed to doing it. It takes a certain level of training to do this, to convince someone to be a martyr for their religion. Can you say youre going to do it but when you get somebody actually willing to do it, when you watch this video and watch the effort he went through to detonate himself, it gives me pause. Lastly, this video of a man in a red shirt. Hes carrying a gun. Bob, you say what hes wearing is important. Why is that . Well, its summer in istan l istanbul. Its very warm there. If its a homemade explosive, it takes up a lot of room and you can sew this into the lining of a coat. As far as the guns go, its easy to get them in a gym bag. Im sure the taxi drivers didnt know. Its really the coats that gave them away. They were probably acting strangely. Thats why the police engaged them. I agree with rick, its absolutely right that you engage these guys right away, insert yourself in the incident and you save lives and juliette said the same thing. Thats what our police are going to do at our airports is to learn how to engage these people very quickly. That will cut down on casualties. Bob, rich, juliette, thank you very much. And the Homeland Security director says isis is probably planning attacks at home. Is there any way we can stop them . Lots of news to discuss. 42 people dead, 238 wounded in the terror attack in istanbuls airport. The three suicide bombers have yet to be identified. But all information points to isis. Joining me from hot spots around the world and its perfect to having you talk about this breaking news, the terror around the world, dominating the headlines. You saw these images and what happened to this airport, is this our new normal . Yes, and it has been for some while. What interests me about tonight is we now have clearly the battle of the optics, a couple of days, maybe a day and a half, the optics were dominated by the attack on the turkish airport, which if it was isis and signs point in that direction but want doesnt want to conclusion jump, but if this was isis, this is the way of demonstrating they still have strength. Theyve been losing on the battlefield in syria and iraq but they commanded the optics for a while. But then tonight comes the optics of the air forces in iraq. Its a battle of optics. The air strikes, theres a certain video game quality. I know youd remember when youd have to wait for the grainy footage to come back from the war zone and then during desert storm you would see people riding around, it was almost like live reporting and now were here and now were in this yard line, in a way and now you can have it immediately come back and see what happens and sometimes it doesnt seem real. And thats part of the problem. With air strikes such as we saw tonight in those aerial photographs, this is lethal. This is real death. But this video game quality sort of flattens everything out and we do run the risk as we go forward of people sort of seeing war in a flattened, Television Version rather than in its full context. Desensitization, do you think . I think it runs that risk. I do. Particularly children who grew up with it. I have in my mind at least a 4, 5, 6yearold child shouldnt be up this hour of the night watching that. And that terror attack, i dont think kids should watch that. I dont either but its on 24 hours a day, seven days a week. Listen. It would be surprising to me that isil is now trying to hit us in the region and our homeland. If anyone here thinks that the homeland is hermetically sealed, i would warn against that. When you think about the fourth of july weekend coming up and you see these attacks, i think theres a real concern if the cia director is should we be concerned in. We better be worried. We do have the fourth of july coming up and there are a lot of soft targets in the country. But it unrealistic as the cia said to think were going to get through even the rest of the year, perhaps not even through the summer without another attack on our homeland. This is the asymmetrical way that war is being waged now by outfits such as isis. The more theyre defeated on the battlefield in places like syria and iraq, the more determined theyre going to be to do things like a turkish airport and they would love to do it in this country, no question about it. The president is saying the coalition is working, saying that isis is back on their heels. Of course theres these new air strikes that happened tonight. He said that they are lashing out, things like what happened in istanbul, theyre lashing out because the u. S. And the Coalition Forces are pushing them back on their heels. Do you agree . I do agree. I think the evidence points very strongly in that direction. However, that doesnt mean that the tide has turned completely against isis because they do have this capability through their propaganda, much of it through the internet and their recruitment abilities, they dont have to send an internet message to someone, they just inspire, if thats the proper word, prompt someone to do these attacks. Again, president obama, frankly my own personal opinion, hes done some very good things in his measured approach to battling isis. Hes still open to criticism, honest people can differ in their opinions about it but not moving faster in syria with things such as air strikes. You know we have a president ial election going on so a lot of things are politicized. I want you to listen to what donald trump had to say today. Isis was formed during her tenure. Isis is now worse than ever. You see what happened yesterday, you see whats going on generally, isis is looking strong. Isis is signing up people over the internet. They know how to use the internet better than we do and we do nothing about anything. Theyre taking our youth. You know why theyre taking our youth . Because they look like theyre winning. We have to give them a big, fat, ugly defeat. We have to defeat them fast. So in her response, Hillary Clinton really hadnt talked about it, she just put out a very succinct statement, she says this, the republicans, at least the leadership are hoping she pivots and becomes more president ial. Do you think he is . No, he hasnt made that pivot. However, that doesnt mean he isnt being effective in the president ial campaign. He says we have to beat them fast, direct quote. Thats a statement that hits viscerally. Its an appeal to emotion. He doesnt say how were supposed to defeat them fast, no detail about it. I dont intend this to be critical, i intend to be analytical that what you have here in the president ial campaign when it comes to how do we address this ongoing battle against terrorism, you have an appeal to emotion, to the gut, to the inside from donald trump. From Hillary Clinton and president obama, its an appeal to reason. So its a struggle, do you answer as a voter with your emotions and say trump is right or do you say the more reasoned and measured way is in both the short and long runs the best way. Its one of those folcrums on which this election is run. Its not my job or yours to be critical of any candidate but it is our job to connect the facts. A new poll shows Hillary Clinton has a sixpoint lead over donald trump. And many viewed him as hotheaded. Is that what americans are looking for when they go to the polls or are they looking for something more advice rahal . It always has been in the past. Theyre looking for intelligent and theyre also looking for personality. And trump, he commands almost every news cycle. Before noon, he will command a news cycle. This may be the first election, if donald trump should win, will be the first candidate this late in the game or perhaps never organized from the ground up from the precinct level and got heavy into fundraising and messaging. So far donald trump hasnt done that but the air war has been very effective for him. Nate silver, who among pollsters i respect most saying he gives trump 20 to 25 chance to win. Its a whole lot more than with what trump started. I think thats a tad low. Ive said to you before i think that trump can win, but it is true that his path to winning is shrinking and Hillary Clintons seems to be widening. However, its still early and ill give you an oklahoma guarantee here it comes. That there will be plenty of unexpected things happen between now and next november. Absolutely. Its still a long way to go and a short time to get there. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. Always a pleasure and an honor. Coming up, america is as divided as ever coming up on this election season. Were talking more about that next. I was just told that i didnt even say dan rathers name, i was so enamored by him, as i always am. Bill kristol of and matt flap are with us tonight. Ill make sure i say your names. What is your take on this now that trump is calling for a much more aggressive response compared to Hillary Clinton in the aftermath of turkey . I think its very hard for Hillary Clinton after having been Barack Obamas secretary of state for her to somehow out of nowhere to come up with some plan thats going to convince people that she understands how serious this threat of radical islam being terrorism is. I just feel like they fell on their face on isis, they called the jv squad, yes, they might have had some success here or there but it set in with the American People that obama fundamentally doesnt get how serious this is. When it comes to our National Security and taking on our National Security, the advantage goes to trump. Do you agree with that, bill kristol . I think obama has done a bad job in the second term. I think we have a man who has no knowledge and Hillary Clinton who wasnt a very effect of secretary of state. I think america deserves a better choice. Well see if its still possible to give america a better choice. Its depressing to me. I was with young Foreign Policy experts here in washington, people who work on the hill, in the military, it was 25, 30, 32yearolds, serious people across the political spectrum and they were just depressed this is the choice its come down to. Along the same lines, the latest fox poll showed 89 of voters feel that trump is hot headed, in this age of uncertainty and fear and terror attacks, how important will that be to voters because thats what Hillary Clinton is hitting him on. Its hard to know. Temperament is not everything but its important in Foreign Policy. Weve elected a lot of president s with different views but they all tended to be calm people. They tend to think before they speak, whether its reagan, bush. But trump is very different. The damage hes done already, you talk to foreign leaders, proamerican foreign leaders and theyre worried. People could hope he would change as president , but he hasnt shown any sign at all actually of being more responsible. Matt . This is the part that i just dont get, which is bills worked in the white house, ive worked in a white house, weve seen these people up close and personal. I have Great Respect for the president i worked for, but many of these political leads are including senators and congressmen, they say things behind the camera that are very politically incorrect, that take on our allies, that take on the heads of corporations, then that camera turns on, don, and they use these very careful diplomatic words. Its true, donald trump simply doesnt do that. But it matches the time of the American People who are really sick to death that we have these serious problems. We have an economy that wont jump start. Thats a very serious problem if you dont live in new york city or washington, d. C. Or earn your living in some sort of government entity. Its very serious problem for the American People and its a very serious problem that these radicals are amongst us, these terrorists and they seem to be on the rise. Were not able to stop it. Our people are being slaughtered. If you look at all that, the fact that we have an outsider that havent run for office, believe me, hes an equal opportunity offender but hes connecting to people who want us to wake up and take things seriously. I think bill takes it too sear yowly that he doesnt use the language thats always been used and i think its somewhat refreshing. You watch the president on the world stage and watch donald trump and in contrast they couldnt be more different. Theres no one who is like trump. So sitting there, watching, imagining trump speaking to World Leaders today and how that would go over, i mean, it would take some getting used to on the world stage, bill, dont you think, to have a president who speaks who use as language that donald trump uses . I think its taken some getting used to hear in america. Hes really degraded our political discourse, the personal imports of people. When has a competitor called another candidate for president of the United States crooked hillary, criticized Carly Fiorinas appearance. Its different when youre behind doors having a beer with somebody or when youre in public. Does that mean you have to be totally politically correct, scho schoolmarmish as Hillary Clinton can be . No. Ill let you respond in a moment. We have to take a break. Every day. At Cancer Treatment centers of america. 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The republican convention, less than three weeks away, donald trump is running out of time to unify his own party. Matt, you wanted to respond to bill kristol talking about temperament and tone and language. What a lot of people have seen from a very educated and smart barack obama is the destruction of many of the values they hold dear. Theyve seen changing in the cult of a rapid fire pace and seen a president work around congress, all doing it in the smooth, likable, diplomatic way. I think that that is frustrating to them. And what has just a posed th juxtaposed that is that donald trump has called out Hillary Clinton and she wants to do it in the corrupt style that we been through where a president has got impeached. It is kind of absurd the idea that were going to go back to the clintons again. Theyre the ones that bring to us this raw place, not the republican candidate. This is the president calling him out today, donald trump. Weve had times throughout our history where antiimmigration sentiment is exploited by demagogues. It was directed at the irish, pols and italians and you can go back and read about what was said about those groups and its identical to what theyre now saying about guatemalans and muslims and salvadorans. But guess what . They kept coming because america offered opportunity for their children and grandchildren. He didnt mention donald trump but you know hes talking about donald trump with the action on muslims. Its hard to assimilate people. Those are policy questions. I am very comfortable with a very conservative line but you can make that calmly and sensibly without denigrating people. Because we dont like president obamas style, we dont need to go to the other extreme. Senator, the Senate Majority leader Mitch Mcconnell said that trump is closer to being a credible candidate. Here it is. So my hope is that hes beginning to pivot and become what i would call a more serious and credible candidate for the highest office in the land. At the moment, though, i hear you saying he does not meet the threshold. Hes getting closer. Hes getting closer but is he getting close enough to have republicans who are unified by the convention . Matt . Okay, so, don, the key word there is unified. He is not going to get the same percentages of republicans publicly supporting him like even mitt romney and john mccain had, two nominees as a conservative i didnt particularly like. Hes not going to get their same numbers. Hes going to get less support from republicans. I think hes going to be able to get crossover support. I think theres a lot of people who look at donald trump as really not that republican and someone that they might support. So its a very interesting coalition of people hes going to pull together. I think the key is that he is striking a cord with a lot of americans who want to try Something Different and i think this election is about upending the status quo and the status quo in washington. So then what happens to the party . Go ahead, bill. I think thats why donald trump has a chance to win. Im not for trump, im not for clinton either. Hes for good changes and bad changes all at once but i dont think he has what it takes to be president but hillary embodies the same and not change. The one thing donald trump that i agree with, is that the pivot should be bound. Mitch mcconnell says that hes a protectionist and he wants to repudiate six decades that has helped the country. Mitch mcconnell believes in free trade. Does he have the nerve to say that or pretend he can make us uncomfortable with donald trump. I got to go. New details into the investigation of the latest terror attack in istanbul and the latest air attack on isis in fallujah. 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