Spouses indiscretions or being brought into a Campaign Like this . No. Plus, Surprising New questions about Donald TrumpsCharitable Foundation tonight. We have the latest on that story and a bombshell from howard stern. Theres whole lot to get to this hour, so it is breaking now. A lot of it. Well get to our cnn politics editors. Mark preston, david k. Johnson, and jeff zeleny. Jeff, lets start with you. Theres breaking news that starts with donald trump. And his support of the iraq war. On his radio show today, howard stern is saying donald trump did support the iraq war. Listen to this. It always comes up because you know trump was on our show years ago and said yeah, he you know, he was looking forward to the iraq war, he was saying he wasnt for it, so they were forced to mention my name. Yeah. Its cool. Good promotion. So i want you to listen to the original interview in 2002 from howard stern. Are you for invading iraq . Yeah, i guess so. You know, i wish it was i wish the first time it was done correctly. So, jeff, is this damning . Trump has been claiming he was never for the war in iraq. Its hard to know if anything is damning or not with the truth scale that donald trump operates under here. It is clear, the record is clear that at the time, of the invasion, that he supported it. The interview with howard stern is clear. Donald trump simply denied that reality on the debate stage on monday night, said it wasnt true, it wasnt true. Now we have howard stern who did the interview with donald trump, has been very friendly to him over the years is saying, no, he was for the iraq war. Is that going to change anything in the mind of Donald Trumps supporters . Probably not. But in the moment of that debate on monday night when donald trump insisted and repeated that he was opposed to it and he tried to almost call you know a friend, used a life line to call sean hannity of fox news. He knows i was against the war. It just simply isnt true. So howard stern saying he was for the war certainly adds more truth but im not sure it changes the equation because the facts arent changing in this. He was for the invasion. He said he was. Yeah. A truth scale. Lets talk theres now a truth scale. So well maybe we should discuss that later. But i mean, he and howard stern are friends, very friendly. Hes been on the show a lot. So do you think hes going to come out now and condemn howard . I dont know if hell condemn him or not but i know they have been very friendly. I dont know if this will come up in the next debate. Its been litigated and litigated to anyone who is still uncertain about this, i think they arent looking at the record here. Well see if donald trump will come out against howard stern. I dont think that would be very wise to pick a fight with howard stern if i was donald trump, but were certainly not offering him advice. That is a great assessment. I wouldnt pick a fight with howard stern. Donald trump just did an interview with and political director of nh 1, also worked here at some point and i want to go by this clip by clip and the responses. Lets look. Back on mondays debate, going into the debate a lot of people said that Hillary Clinton was going to try to bait you and some people say maybe you took the bait. Will you be more disciplined maybe in the second debate . I dont think i took the bait. You know every online poll had me winning the debate, so every single one of them, many of them, so look i found it to be an amazing experience actually. We had 88 Million People or something around that number and i just found it to be an amazing experience. I think we did well. I think im very happy with the way it turned out. So hes still insisting he won citing the online poll. Does he understand you can keep clicking and there was a campaign from his supporters to get him to win the debate . I mean, we go we see this day in and day out. I think donald stern gosh, listen to me. I think donald trump lives in an alternative reality at this point, and initially he probably doesnt believe it if he said it enough times, hes surrounded by the people that feed into him, he eventually believes it. But this is not a true fact. Those online polls are contests. Theyre not scientific. The only scientific polls that we have seen so far is the cnn orc poll. It was seen immediately afterwar afterwards. It showed our methodology and said it was skewed a little bit towards the democrats. Having said that, the margin was so high, Hillary Clinton clearly won that debate. But donald trump will go on because it reels up his base and his base clearly loves it. And you can program something you can keep going back and you can also program something to continue to vote for to vote one way. Okay. Lets move on now. I want you to listen to another clip. You were asked about the birther question, and you said you were proud of what you did. You did a service to the president and to the country. So do you stand by those comments . Youre proud of what you did . Im the one that got him to put up his birth certificate. Health care was unable to get there. And i will tell you, she tried. And you look at her campaign, and Everybody Knows it happened. I would say pretty much everybody agrees with me but she tried and she was unable to do it and i tried and i was able to do it. So im very proud of that. So wheres that on the truth scale . False, false, false, false, false, false. The fact of the matter is theres no evidence that Hillary Clinton or her campaign tried to discredit barack obama on the birther issue. Thats absolutely not true. But what is true is donald trump was one of, if not the leading voice of the Birther Movement to try to discredit barack obama when he was the president and in fact he rode this in many ways into the republican nomination and now as a republican nominee. Okay listen to one more subject. This one came up at the debate. You didnt mention bill clinton and his past affairs. You may do this a second debate . She was very nasty to me, and i was going to do it and i saw chelsea sitting out in the audience and i just want to go there. I thought it would be too business disrespectful. I just didnt want to do it but she was very nasty. Well see what happens but i didnt want to put it there. Its a hard thing to say in front of somebodys daughter. If it does come up though in the next debate, do you think maybe your past marital history is also fair game . I guess. I mean they can do, but a lot different than his i can tell you. We have a situation where we have a president who was a disaster and he was ultimately impeached over it in a sense for lying so well see whether or not we discuss it. Youre not worried about your past history at all . Not at all. I have a very good history. Mark . Well, i mean, on the issue of, did he bring it up on the debate stage or not, he certainly alluded to it on the debate stage and walked off the debate stage and talked about it pretty openly. In my book, he has brought it up and he has said it. It just so happened Chelsea Clinton wasnt staring at him and Chelsea Clinton has addressed this in a subsequent interview with a magazine. But moving on, as for his own marital history, we know he was married three times and he has had a very high profile extramarital affair, you know that hit in the new york tabs in what have you and really at this point in the campaign, it just shows you were going furtherer and further into the gutter as we head into november. Don if i can, he was the one who put the stories about the divorce in the campaign and repeatedly publicly humiliated the mother of his children and planted false stories that various famously beautiful women like kim basinger were involved with him or wanted to be involved with him that werent true. Im not sure his record is particularly admirable. I remember being here in 90s and his kids having to deal with that. That was part of the story they were in the tabloids. Republicans do not want him to go there. Dont want him to go there. The other thing we pointed out last time, in 2008, he gave an interview with wolf blitzer, he said bill clinton almost got he good morning got impeached for something he thought was very unimportant he thought it was silly when george bush, president at the time, got away with lying about the iraq war. Theres sound bite that shows that. Lets talk about this new reporting tonight. This is from david farrenhold at the Washington Post, reporting trumps Foundation Never got the certification in new york to order in order to solicit money from the public. Whats going on here . Well, new york, like california, the city of los angeles, a number of places, has a law that says if you are raising money and they set a threshold, 25,000 in new york. If you solicit money and raise more than 25,000, you have to have a license, you have to have a permit, otherwise scam artists could go door to door raising money and farenthold, who has been doing brilliant work, and went to the attorney general, did they file the necessary paperwork to solicit and they didnt. Okay. So heres what farrenhold told anderson. If thats the biggest consequence of having not registered, is if he had to register every year he would come through the independent auditor, look at all the checks and specifically ask the question, did Donald Trumps foundation spend money in a way that benefit the donald trump, and we found a few allegations where that seems to have happened over the few years and if they went through these audits they would have found it. Now were up to nine illegal examples, illegal conduct, by just the Trump Foundation and what this shows is theres very good reason to revoke the charitible status of the Trump Foundation. Selfinterested status, and paying off Donald Trumps legal obligations, buying paintings of him in his properties and soliciting money without authorization from the state. It also raises a question about if youre such a terrific businessman, this genius businessman, how come you keep running into illegal conduct . So for i heard Jeffrey Tubin on earlier saying there are a number of Charitable Foundations that arent run right and they miss licenses. In the scheme of things is this a big deal . You say it should be hut down. Shut down. Its a big deal under the law and we should be doing more to enforce laws and congress has a 1 law on tax foundations that is to support enforcement on the law. By the way most foundations and my wife runs a large Public Foundation are very well run and scrupulous what they do. The Clinton Foundation has audits. Trump hasnt done that which is a requirement, and they did a Forensic Audit and didnt find anything of any consequence. When they looked at everything as if it was a criminal investigation. Does this say about the way he runs his businesses and does this fold into the tax issue at all . First of all, trump may owe taxes on some of the gifts that were made to the foundation, if they were actually income to him that was diverted to the foundation that violates an ancient doctrine called the assignment of income doctrine. And the public has a right to know about that . Exactly. And in addition as i said on your show before, there are very strong badges of fraud in trumps 1984 tax return. We know that he participated in sales tax fraud, so it seems to me when you look at all of these things in context, its very strong evidence that trump really needs to come clean about his tax returns. Yeah. Okay. So farrenhold says in the most obvious example of a public solicitation, the Trump Foundation set up a web site to collect smalldollar donations that it promised to pass along to veterans. In all, the Trump Foundation took in 1. 6 upon Million Dollars through this site. Mark, the fact this is going through the president ial election, thats significant, right . And its grounds for the new York Attorney general who isnt is an elected democrat and trump feels is a part tan working against him, to invoke his powers. And he has substantial powers as the guardian of the charitable assets to examine the books and to revoke the charitable status, effectively revoke it. The irs is the one that would have to revoke it, but you can shut down their operations. And if you remember, the money he was raising for veterans occurred back in january during the Iowa Caucuses and he held a big event and he skipped a he skipped the debate. He skipped a fox debate because he wasnt happy with it. I went to that rally and he was supposed to save a lot of money and we stand here talking just before the election and Something Like this is dogging him. 40 days. And he was also turned down by one of the Veterans Charities that would not go on stage and get money from him because they were afraid their charitable status was revoked. I dont think it will happen to him, but its a matter of law, he asked them to do things that are illegal by participating in partisan political activities. David, mark, thank you very much. I appreciate it. Gentlemen, when we come back why the city of phoenix wants donald trump to pull one of his campaign ads. Upgrade your phone system and learn how you could save at vonage. Com business when you cook with incredible thingredients. Ato. You make incredible meals. Fresh ingredients, stepbystep recipies, delivered to your door for less than 9 a meal. Get 30 off your first delivery blueapron. Com cook. In the country have in common . Many of them now call Cancer Treatment centers of america home. Expert medicine works here. Find out why at cancer center. Com. Cancer Treatment Centers of america. More of that howard bombshell. Here to discuss, cnn political commentator anna navarre audio and scotty nell hughes. Hello to ale of you. Hillary, im going to start with you. Howard says donald trump did express support for the iraq war on his show in 2002. Lets listen to this. It always comes up because trump bass on our show years ago and said he was for the iraq war. He was saying he really wasnt for it so they were forced to mention my name. Yeah, its cool. Good promotion. So hillary, will this make a difference to trumps supporters . Its all about promotion. No, it wont matter to trumps supporters and really most people i think have decided that donald trump lies, like i think people just own that but for Trump Supporters they dont seem to care. Thats what is so confounding i think, particularly to regular reporters who constantly fact check him, and kobt standly find that he lice. And he never backs down, he never admits with transcripts, with witnesses, its just ongoing so really i think were just going to have to accept that and move on about the kind of president hes going to be. A lying president. Perhaps i should and a trump supporter, scottie, your reaction . Its interesting to hear a clinton supporter sit there about trump lying. Youve got Hillary Clinton, time and time again has lied to the American People saying she did not think there was any classified emails on her server. You had her lie about landing enemy sniper fire in bosnia. You had her lie about what caused benghazi. Scottie, my question was, will it make a difference to Trump Supporters . Absolutely not because we see the howard stern show for what it was. It was a piece of entertainment and four little words youre saying donald trump was for the the iraq war on an entertainment program. And by the way, our soldiers were already preparing for war, and i think mr. Trump felt it could be unpatriotic at that matter. What difference does it make as in the words of Hillary Clinton to expressing any but support for our soldiers. So it matters where the evidence comes from . Was it entertainment or was he supporting the troops . It was an entertainment show. If you remember that time period, which i do, our troops were already preparing for war even though congress had not necessarily voted for it they knew they were going and there were families that would have split up. It would have looked very unpatriotic to do anything but express if you listened to the answer it was very lukewarm because he did not want to sit there and tell these soldiers that left their family, i dont want to support you, thats not how we do it in america. So youre saying he support sit, but didnt mean it . Why isnt he saying that . Scottie, why isnt he saying that . Thats how it was from the very beginning and i was told why he was very lukewarm in the answer. I want to move on, ana, unless you want to discuss this. Do you want to move on or talk about this . Sweetheart, i can tell you i think both of these candidates could benefit from a big dose of truth serum in their Morning Coffee and it doesnt matter to either candidates supporters whether theyre telling the truth or not. You are not a donald trump supporter if you are bothered by shifting position. Today for the first time in its history, the usa today Editorial Board chose a side. They usually dont choose a side. They told their readers whatever you do, go out and vote, but just dont vote for donald trump. And one of the reasons they gave is how erratic he is, how much hes coorsened the discourse, and how much hes shifted positions. Sometimes he shifts positions more than once in one day. So thats not something that i think bothers Trump Supporters because they think, well, both of them are liars, ill choose the republican liar. Ana lets talk about this. According to the arizona republic, the city has sent the Trump Campaign a cease and letter about the movement. It is a movement. Not a campaign. Its leader, donald trump, builder, businessman, doing what others called impossible. Donald trumps priority, you dreaming big, building bigger, united for family, jobs, country, defined by freedom. Standing together, pushing ahead, leaving the past behind, changing our future. Together, well make America Great again. Im donald trump and i approved this message. So heres the problem with that ad for the city. The city is upset that ad features onduty Phoenix Police officers. Whats your reaction . Oh, don, don, don, do you think breaking the law, breaking regulations matters in trump land . Today we found out the guy violated the cuban embargo, the cuban embargo, which is illegal to violate. This is not just about policy, whether you agree with it or not. We found that out today, so does it matter . No, it doesnt. He gets measured by a different stick. He doesnt comply with these things and hes now being investigated on foundation issues. Hes being now weve got the cubage embargo issue out. This really doesnt play into what his supporters think or believe. Id say the same thing about Hillary Clinton by the way. Heres the thing. Just in the last couple days, even since the debate, there have been so many stories that have come out. This is one story quickly i want to cover before we get to break. I want to talk about this controversy with Alicia Machado. It has gone on since mondays debate. Went on fox the next day. Hes called her overweight and hes talked about it seemingly ever since. Hillary, why is he doing this . This does not seem to be helping him. I know hed probably like to change the conversation. It doesnt it boggles my mind. I dont understand why he talks about why he does fatshaming of this woman or any women and i dont know why he consistently does it and cant seem to let it go. It defends himself rather than apologizes. Its the same thing for when he sort of threatens and dog whistles to bring up bill clintons affairs when hes on his third marriage. I mean, none of this is good for him. You know, frankly, the clinton team doesnt care if he just keeps talking about this because it just cements womens view this is not a guy on their side. So this is i think that Hillary Clinton was out there all day talking about student dent and college affordability. Thats what the American People care about and if donald trump were smart he would shift back to talking about issues. Okay im going to let you respond, scottie. Anna im going to let you respond. I promise. After the break. And because i know this is important to you, anna. And scottie, i no you want to respond to this. Is were also going to talk about this new yorker cover. Dont go anywhere. Redid you say 97 . 97 yes. You know, that reminds me of geicos 97 Customer Satisfaction rating. 97 . Helped by geicos fast and friendly claims service. Huh. Oh yeah, baby. Geicos as fast and friendly as it gets. Woo geico. Expect great savings and a whole lot more. Back now with my panel. Scottie, you wanted to respond. You think this reporting on Alicia Machado is wearing thing . Absolutely. The only reason why were talking about it is Hillary Clinton keeps bringing it up with their henchman and the media. A lot of the people are wanting to vote for hillary because donald trump is calling them out on it. So you think fox news is henchman for Hillary Clinton, because he talked about it on fox and friends. That was a few days ago. As in washington were finding out now a lot of these problems Miss Universe had actually happened before the before she was actually crowned Miss Universe, like anorexia, like bulimia. She complain of those to to Washington Post prior to being elected. A lot of i told you a couple days ago this cookie was going to start crumbling, so if any other news outlets are pointing out, definitely the holes and the bubbles and the motivations behind her coming out now youre trashing her body. No, she trashed it herself. Shes the one who said the facts matter now youre doing it, scottie. Shame on you. Shame on you hillary. She said it a time on herself, stop perpetuating this lie about her. You didnt bring it up. Hillary clinton want this is to happen, but she doesnt have a reason no, you she doesnt have a reason to pay for her Free College Tour that he did except for taxing the income. Anna, i want you to get in there. Anna and i are personal friends. I know this is personal to you. We discuss the weight issue all the time. You are how do you feel about this . Look. I think why does donald trump keep doing this . I know, he could have put a stop to it in the next day after the debate, he would have said, back then, i was the owner of the Miss Universe pageant, back then i was an entertainer, now im a president ial candidate and i realize its something i shouldnt have done. Instead, what he showed is hes got no selfrestraint. This man gets ricked, he has to punch back, even if hes punching down to a beauty queen of 20 years ago. He has no self restraint. Hes got no common sense, and obviously hes got no mirror. How could people like ive struggled with people weight issues all my life. How could people like donald trump be out there trashing a woman because she gained weight . How little self awareness do you need to have . Ana, your tweet is up. I want to use it i struggle with weight issues all my life and i agree a man who shames and bullies a woman for weight isnt fit to be a man. Those are strong words, ana. Hes not. Hes not. Scottie let her finish. Scottie, i went through the entire thing of you guys shaming each other and all of that. Im not interrupting you so let me just say my peace. My piece. I think you have to realize theres a lot of people in america that unfortunately we struggle with our weight. Some of us its because of genetics, some of us its because whatever reason and to fatshame people is not about me, don, ive struggled with my weight my entire life but its not about me. Im 44 years old. You can tell me anything you want. It rolls off my back like a duck, but its about the little girls and little boys who are watching programs, listening to this campaign who have body issues, who feel selfconscious, who are bullied because of their weight, and for him to contribute to that discourse, is part of the reason why hes not getting things like the editorial endorsement of the usa today because he has poisoned the discourse, because he has lowered the level of the debate, and because he continues to be so offensive to so many groups. Good luck trying to go against fat people in america, donald trump. I want to get your ana, thank you for that. I want to get this put the cover up. This is new yorker magazine. It has donald trump as ms. Congeniality. Is this story going away . Hillary . I hope so. Listen, heres some facts, which is you know, women actually care about issues and from my perspective, the fact that donald trump wants to Name Supreme Court justices that will repeal rowe v. Wade that he wants to repeal the Health Care Bill that gives equal access to healthcare, those to me are much better issues to talk about for women than you know their body weight. Some other absolutely. It would be a much better conversation. Scottie hold on because im going to get you to respond. Some other issues they want to talk about meaning the donald Trump Campaign, and Kellyanne Conway addressed it on the view today. Bill clintons infidelities, listen. Im not advising him to go there. Its fair game to think about how Hillary Clinton treated those women after the fact. She called Monica Lewinsky what about how he treats women all the time. To answer your question, its really what i can tell you about donald trump, that i hold you would all give credence to is he is surrounded by strong women. Hes employed thousands and thousands of women over the years. Let me ask you something about hillary. Im the First Campaign manager for the republican president ial candidate. Did you reprimand him for that . Did you say your you calling women pigs . I think its beside the point. He give that particular woman a Second Chance. The Company Involved wanted her terminated hes too good. He is too good. Hold on. I want everybody to know this. Because she was in breach of contract. And the company wanted her terminated. He gave her a Second Chance. The choices were give her a Second Chance or terminate her and her did that. So scottie, two things there. Kellyanne conway is talking about it, shes the Campaign Manager and the other thing is why why does donald trump surrogates supporters, why do they want donald trump to get credit for doing what every employer has to do legally, to hire women, if they didnt, they would get sued. Orb they would be out of business. Answer those two things for me. Because in this case with ms. Machado, she said you can please help me, you can get me a nutritionist, you can help me work out . They came up with this plan together. For her to say donald trump put me through all of this, she was the one who asked for his help when she broke her contract of a job she was hired do. Bringing up bill clintons infidelities how do you know that, scottie . Its facts. Go read the facts. These from the facts that were reported. Even cnn talked about this issue back then. Actually, thats not reported. Night has been reported. I dont recall that reporting. Go ahead. We can look at it. I havent seen any reporting on that and i cant imagine it being other than a conversation, a hearsay conversation from donald trump. I have to go scottie, but the other part of my question is, the fair game issue. Does he get extra credit for doing what every employer in the world does for hiring women . Women work everywhere. Not extra credit but why are we continuing to demonize them as being a sexist woman hater when he promotes men and women based on actually the job that they do. He has to promote men and women. Hes in business. He doesnt have to yes, he does. When they are good, they continue to advance. When theyre bad they get terminated or fired so he does that to men and women and holds them to the same standard. There are only two sexes, two types human being. Hes not a sexist woman hater. Hes not one. They have to work in a workplace somewhere, so its not like hes hiring other genders. He has to hire men and women, thats what he does. And he treats them exactly the same way. Its not about hating women. Its about objectifying women. Calling a women a fat pig. That is not confirmed. That is a talking point from the clinton campaign. He didnt call rosy odonnell a fat pig . Rosy odonnell is not a woman . What did she call him. Thank you. Well be right back. Upgrade your phone system and learn how you could save at vonage. Com business just like that, a moment turns romantic. So why pause to take a pill . And when youre having fun why stop to find a bathroom . 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And for a 200 savings card, go to cialis. Com donald trump still hasnt apologized for calling a miss former universe miss piggy and miss housekeeping. We have a story to tell, jody joins me now. Thank you so much. I hope you are enjoying being down near baton rouge, my hometown. I am indeed. You were ms. Australia in 1996, in the Miss Universe pageant with Alicia Machado. Yes, many moons ago, yes. You say you were also fat shamed by donald trump . Yes, thats true. It was like i said many moons ago it happened but the memories are really, really raw, really quite fresh and everything thats going on today brings it all back. He told me to stick my gut in, quite often hed be walking through wherever we were kind of eating or where we were performing and casting his eyes over the ones that were a little bit plumper and kind of favoring the girls that were a little less. So, very much he enforced exercise in his hot little tent in las vegas. We all had leg weights on. We were meant to be representing our countries as the most beautiful women in the world and we were made to feel like fat, just quite worthless. He did it to you and other women . You heard him . It was quite pointing. You and other women . Other women, yes. And if someone were to say to you this is part of pageant culture, but you im sure were involved in a number of pageants. Were you ever treated that way in any other pageant . I wasnt. I was just a small town girl from australia. Im sure other girls may have been treated like that in their pageantry. For me i just went into it for a laugh to experience the world. Donald trump was the First American man id ever met so lets just put it this way, quite a shock. And it was i know what people say, you go into a pageant, you expect to be treated a certain way, but we were 19 years old. If you think of it this way, we had chaperones. We werent allowed to leave our room without an adult chaperone, which we were forced to wear swimsuits, which is part of the pageant, but not everyday life. We had to wear it to restaurants. He wanted us to be sexy all the time and for an older man of influence, who was running the show for his first year to come up to you and say stick your tummy or gut inside, rather than take you aside or get one of your minders to say it to you in a nice, quiet voice, its very condescending and makes a huge impact on a girl quite that young. You describe him as being controlling like mussolini. Why do you say that . He. He was. I guess for me it was his first year there. I had a good friend who was ms. Australia the before and she never experienced anything like that in her Miss Universe experience. It was all kind of people were made to feel beautiful and appreciated. Whereas donald would come in and say you in the front row, youre sexy and kind of favoring the girls that were a lot thinner, sexier, and playing favorites quite a lot. Did you think he would be running and run ago. Did you ever think he would be running the candidate of the Republican Party who might be the next president of the United States . No, lord no my gosh. No, not at all. Not in a million years. Well, jody seal, thank you for joining us. Thank you so much, don. Nice to meet you. Thank you. When we come back. Hes never trump and never hillary. I dont have to read a tease. Guess who is coming up. Glen beck. You dont want to miss that. 40 i want to see if my next guest agrees with that and that is glenn beck, founder of the blaze and author of liars. How are you doing . Very good. What is going on . Have you ever seen anything like this . We have 40 days to go. What is going on . I you know, its alive, its alive, its alive its a monster, and i think it is a monster on both sides. Im hoping, i cant predict the American People at all, but im hoping that theres a lot of people on both sides that feel like really . This is the best we can do . These guys, really . Yeah. Well, lets talk about these guys. Lets start with donald trump and then, you know, Hillary Clinton was part of the debate as well. Donald trump thinks that he won that first debate. His advisers disagree with him. Can he come back do you think for round two and take it . You know, it is so funny because i was watching the debate on cnn, and everybody was saying, i cant believe that i mean what a debacle that was. I turn it over to fox and they have the exact opposite opinion, so i dont know. I tried to watch it as a millennial that kind of understands socialism and is kind of a bernie person and disconnected from hillary, and i dont see the connection with i dont see anybody if i was watching it, i dont see them going, you know what, goi got t give her a second look. However, they are certainly not looking at donald trump. When you look at donald trump, i also tried to watch it as, you know, a guy who is just a hardworking guy who has been out trying to earn a living, job is tough, he sees his country burning down and is like all of these politicians, i have not heard anybody say and i think this is the roger ailes effect, you will notice donald trump never talked about democrats or republicans. All he said was politicians. While i disagree with almost everything he said, i could say all that he said, he was very careful to never bash the democrats or the republicans. He bashed them both. Hes making a noose for both parties by saying, you know, you politicians, theyre all alike. Taking himself out of that, taking himself out of a guy who knows how to manipulate the media and say, look at how bad the media is. He is saying, look how bad the politicians. He is positioning himself, if people arent careful, of rising above all of it and squashing both of it. Yeah. If im a guy on the bar stool worried about my job, he might have connected with me. Okay. So and thats not a good thing in my book. What happens to the Republican Party if he wins . Oh, i think it i think, you know, he doesnt even have to win. You know, harry reid when he said theyre building a frankenstein monster, this is who they are, no. This was built by parties and politicians and washingtons washington and the media, everywhere, not listening to people. You know, thats the problem we have. Weve been talking about black lives matter between the two of us, and i said, you know, we have to listen to each other. Right. We have to hear the other side. You cant put together a marriage. If youre having a problem in your marriage, youre not going to just say, hey, get over that, its in the past. You say, honey, let me listen to you, tell me what youre feeling. I used that same analogy, glenn. You tell the other party you just dont tell your spouse, it is a problem for you, not for me. Yes. And i have to feel like youve heard me. Then we might be able to put it in the past. Politicians have not recognized that they have heard. What theyve done is used and betrayed the people who were crying out to them on both sides of the aisle, and thats why this is so dangerous. Lets talk about black lives matter since you want to discuss it. I wanted to ask you about bill clinton and all of that but lets talk about black lives matter. No, go ahead. Im cool with anything. Okay. If we have time, well get that in. Before we do that, listen, this is his birther answer at the debate and tell me what you think he should have said. Play this. Were talking about racial healing in this segment. What do you say to americans well, it was very i say nothing. Of color i got him to produce it, he should have produced it before. Let me tell you, when you talk about healing, i think ive developed very good relationships over the last little while with the africanamerican community. I think you can see that. And i feel that they really wanted me to come to that conclusion, and i think i did a great job and a Great Service not only for the country but even for the president. So he asked him about racial healing and then he went on with the birther thing, saying that he did a good thing. What should he have said, do you think . Uh, about racial healing . The question was from donald trump . I dont even know where to begin. If i were donald trump i would say, everybody keep saying, we have to have a conversation. Well, thats never followed up with actually having a conversation, and i dont think the politicians should be involved in that. We do need to talk to one another and we have to break down the barriers of screaming at each other or demonizing each other. We just have to talk and, more importantly, we need to listen to each other. But, glenn, it sounds like he doesnt think theres a problem because when asked he said, i say nothing, i got him to produce his birth certificate. It sounds like he is tone deaf to the issue. Don, i dont i mean people who have listened to me and trusted me for a long time, a lot of them are very upset at me right now, and thats okay. I have a different opinion than a lot of people who are just playing teams, and, dont get me wrong, Hillary Clinton i think is absolutely, thoroughly corrupt. But in another way so is this guy. I dont know which one is worse, i really dont. I think donald trump is so selfcentered, so vindictive, doesnt let things go and, quite honestly, he has said himself he doesnt read. He is sound under educated on t issues, he is a danger to the republic. I watched this trying to think of a millennial, trying to think of a guy about to lose his job, and trying to watch it as somebody who was a Prime Minister in another country, and i have to tell you if i were in where else in the world i would be terrified of what the United States might turn into. Ive got to go, glenn beck. Tha thanks for staying up. When we come back, donald trump suggesting he might raise questions about bill clintons past in the bait. But Donald Trumps past is the stuff of tabloid headlines. Well have it coming up. Captions by vitac www. Vitac. Com