Sources familiar with the matter that flynn has expressed concern about the potential legal egs poeb of his son who like his father is currently under scrutiny by special counsel Robert Mueller. Flynns concern could be a factor in decisions about how to respond to muellers Ongoing Investigation into russian meddling in the 2016 campaign as well as the business dealings of key Trump Campaign advisers. Im told as well, don, that flynns wife lori she shares his concerns about their sons possible legal exposure and that you can well imagine. And what legal questions is the special counsel focusing on regarding flynn . So this is somewhat revealing. I spoke to two witnesses interviewed by the special counsel investigators and they tell me that the questions regarding flynn focused on his and his sons business dealings, including their firms reporting of income from work overseas. There is a log. Its called the foreign agents registration act. It requires those americans acting as agents for Foreign Companies or countries, they have to publicly disclose those relationships with those entities as well as any financial compensation they receive for such work. I should note that flynn jr. , he was central to flynns business. He served as his fathers chief of staff. A top aide, actively involved in his fathers consulting and lobbying work at their firm, which was known at the time as the flynn intel group. And that included joining his father on some of his over seas trips, one of them to moscow in december 2015 when flynn famously diepd with russian president Vladimir Putin at a gala for rt. Thats the Russian Television net work. I should note that flynn sr. Is also under legal scrutiny for undisclosed lobbying during the campaign on behalf of the turkish government as well as flynns alleged participation in discussions about forcibly removing a turkish clerk who has been living here in the u. S. In pennsylvania in exile. I should note as well in the past that a spokesman for flynn has denied that those discussions took place. So moving forward, what happens next in the investigation, jim . So clearly Robert Mueller is working hard here. Theres no sign that this is going to end anytime soon. I should note that the Flynn Investigation has been going on for some time. His business dealings have been subject to federal investigation since november prior even to muellers appointment in may of this year. And its not clear that either of the flins will face charges once that investigation is complete of the i should note that we reached out to flynns attorney. He did not respond to multiple requests to me for comment. Flynn jr. s lawyer, he declined to comment. But i might draw your attention to a tweet from flynn jr. Just this past sunday when he said, quote, the disappointment on your faces when i dont go to jail will be worth all your harassment. So quite a defiant response there to the former National Security advisers son. I want to bring in now cnn contributor john dean. Good evening, gentlemen. Welcome to the program. John, you heard jim say that flynn is concerned about his son and that could factor into how he responds to the mueller investigation. Is that an indication that he could flip against the president . Well, its certainly possible. We have not heard much news about mr. Flynn in a long time. This is the fist time in some thought he had flipped. This indicates that hasnt happened. So thats one thing we do take off the table, but it certainly looks like the special counsel is putting pressure on him to do so by leaning on his son. And that would be a very strong tool and not one unfamiliar to hard ball prosecution. The potential charges, how serious are they . Theyre very serious. You know, with regard to mr. Flynn, youre not only talking about, for example, failure to report that hes a foreign agent, which of course is a federal crime. Its a felony. But, you know, that really explosive charge that you spoke about a moment ago is that he was receiving a lot of money from the turkish government in exchange for pushing certain policies, you know, while he was in the Trump Administration. Thats the sort of thing not only juries dont like but i think a judge would very seriously want to publisher if he was convicted. So, you know, if im Michael Flynn, im concerned about my own liability. Im concerned about whether im going to go to prison for some period of time and also as john and you were talking about a moment ago, im concerned about my son. I will tell you, don, when i first saw the tweets from Michael Flynn, jr. , some days ago, i was thinking, okay, clearly this guy thinks hes getting a pardon because thats the only rational explanation for what is otherwise completely irrational behavior. Because in addition to the tweet you showed, you know, he was blasting mueller and making all sorts of unfair and false charges against mueller. That is not something you typically do when you get indicted and go to prison. What todays news telgz me is things are more normal, more like what i would expect as a former federal prosecutor, which is that mr. Flynn is very concerned and he may cooperate with mr. Mueller, whats called vicarious cooperation in exchange for leniency for his son. Thats interesting. Its not clear whether either flynn will face charges once the investigation is complete. But how concerned should the president be about this . Well, he certainly was concerned about flynn when he talked to comey. So we know its been on his mind that he thought that flynn should get a pass, which would probably include his son. Another thing, don, is the seriousness of the crimes. There also happened to be, with the exception of the foreign agents registration act, state offenses. So these are beyond a pardon. And that should trouble trump also because he cant give them any grace and let them have a pass. And this wouldnt send a smiling Michael Flynn, jr. Off to his new twitter account either. Remember it was trump who asked former fbi director james comey to go easy on flynn in the oval office. Thats according to comeys capitol hill testimony. Flynn has been a central figure in all of this early on. Thats for sure, don. And what it suggested is that the president had a close relationship with Michael Flynn and took an intense interest in his investigation. I mean, it takes a lot for the president of the United States to interrupt a busy day for and obviously a lot of very serious concerns and weighty concerns to personally talk to the fbi director and ask him to drop the case against mr. Flynn. So that is something that is very unusual. And in addition to that, i will say, you know, one issue i would be thinking about if i represented the president is if he does pardon flynn, if he does pardon flynns son, is that evidence that mr. Mueller is going to use in support of his obstruction investigation. And we know that is ongoing as well. Theres also, john, theres this. We learned from carter pages testimony that Corey Lewandowski okayed carters trip to moscow as long as it wasnt affiliated with the campaign. Corey told politico back in march i had never met or spoken to carter page in my life. Well, here is what corey told fox news. This was last night. You have to remember in the context of the campaign world, now, my memory has been refreshed, but to be clear, from what i understand and what i recall, that email was sent on june 19th of 2016. So about 18 months ago. It also happened to be fathers day on a sunday. And it also happened to be the day prior to me being terminated from the campaign. So with all due respect, there were many other things on my mind that day other than trying to understand why a volunteer was telling me he may or may not be traveling outside the country. He went from saying that he never spoke to carter page in his life to his memory being refreshed. In fact, they had exchanged emails. Yeah. Ill tell you, don, its amazing how federal criminal investigations tender to sharpen ones memory. I think that you know, a lot of people have had refreshed recollection as of late. I know at a certain point attorney general sessions also seemed to have his memory refreshed. One thing i will say is what this should tell viewers at home is that all of these individuals are making a big mistake by talking on television, talking on twitter, talking to anyone, frankly, about whats going on here. What theyre doing, every time they speak their words can be used against them. When i was a federal prosecutor and im not telling you a secret here. This is something that rod would talk about how he would get video take place of my public appearance. His offices lawyers would get those videotapes as potential exhibits against him. And so, you know, those statements can be used against him. And mr. Lewandowski and others could potentially get themselves in legal trouble if they keep speaking inaccurately about what they did and what they said. Does coreys refreshed memory hurt him, john . Well, ill tell you, amnesia is not a good defense in front of juries. It was tried in watergate. Its been tried in many, many federal cases. And it does not impress juries. So refreshed recollections helps as the process of the investigation go along, and they can save themselves from getting in trouble. But when it all is flattened out at the end, youve got to be truthful and forthcoming and appear that way all the way along. John dean, reign add dough, thank you. I appreciate it. Just ahead, more on our breaking news. Michael flynn expressing concern about the legal fate of his son in the russia investigation. Also, the democratic upset on election day one year after Donald Trumps stunning victory. The Election Results are a referendum on his presidency . Im going to ask legendary journalist dan rather. My shoulders carry a lot of names some i deserve others i dont but in the end only one name really matters because shoulders were made for greatness, not dandruff looking for a hotel that fits. Whoooo. Your budget . Tripadvisor now searches over. 200 sites to find you the. Hotel you want at the lowest price. Grazi, gino find a price that fits. Tripadvisor. Here is breaking news tonight. Former National Security adviser Michael Flynn expressing concern about the potential legal exposure of his son in the investigation by special counsel Robert Mueller. I want to bring in now dan rather. I cannot wait to read it. Number one on my reading list. I think im going to get to yours first, mr. Rather. Welcome to the program. I want to talk to you about this new reporting. Thanks, don. Absolutely. Robert mueller may be putting pressure on former National Security adviser Michael Flynn. Flynn and his son are both under scrutiny by mueller. Is mueller trying to get flynn to flip and testify about russian interference or possible collusion to protect his son . Well, first, obviously i do not know for sure. But having covered prosecutors over the years, its pretty obvious that and juskel so that the Mueller Operation is trying to get various people to flip. And putting the pressure on flynn, frankly, don, for the last couple of weeks ive been saying to myself we havent heard much about flynn. Now its out. You can bet that special counsel mueller and his people have been talking to flynn a lot more than is apparent in what we know from the public prints. And now we have this information that in addition to putting the pressure on flynn himself, putting the prush on his son. But a key question that needs to be continually asked as the Mueller Operation goes on is one thing to put the pressure on flynn and increase the pressure by mentioning his son as somebody who possibly could be indicted and put in prison possibly but how much does flynn know and does what he know tie the collusion question directly to the president . I think theres a widespread belief, suspicion with most of the media and i would include myself, suspicion that flynn knows a lot. But they have to leave open the possibility that no matter how much pressure you put on him, he may not know as much as we think he does. Second thing is theres always the lure of the pardon. The president has this tremendous pardon power. And if youre in flynns role or for that matter his sons role, you have to keep asking yourself well, am i better off to fully cooperate, tell him everything i know or to stay loyal, put that in quotes if you want, and better in a pardon. So thats where we are with that. What ai night last night. I want to talk about the election and get your perspective on that. The results were a sweeping victory for democrats, mr. Rather. It was supposed to be very tight in virginia. What happened in your view . Well, i think what happened first of all, this is a big deal. This is a big win for the democrats. No other way to read it. They among other things particularly in virginia, the republicans found out that running a trumpism kind of campaign without trump himself campaigning directly for you doesnt work. And also this campaign in the end the republican candidate for governor, thinking he was behind, began to run a very dirty campaign. As i said before, this campaign was nasty enough to gag a buzzard. That didnt work. So by any reasonable analysis coming out of last night, good news, very good news for the democrats in not only virginia but new jersey and other places. They did it the oldfashioned way. They really got organized and they got people out to vote. You know, the book you mentioned, what unites us, i wrote it because im optimistic about the future. I think it will take us awhile to get there. I wanted to talk about hope. But hope and optimism, they only work if people are willing to act. So its a very old story. What counts the most is the vote. And in this case the democrats worked hard to get their vote out. They were in a climate i think generally speaking that people want the country to be united. And much of the rhetoric and the tone coming from the Trump Administration has been to divide us. Right. You know, race against race, in some cases religion against religion. And thats contrary to our history and the natural american spirit. And i think thats some of what moved these battle to go democratic last night. But any reasonable reading of those results, a lot of republicans who are up for reelection next year, their fingernails will begin to sweat now given these returns. But you and i know, don, that in politics overnight is a long time. A wook is forever. And the 2018 off year elections are still a long way away. So the democrats need to go out let me ask you because im going to put our poll up. Its a very troubling numbers for President Trump here. Only 34 of americans say the president is honest and trust woty. 64 think he is not. One year in, i think thats pretty astonishing. What forces are at work here . Well, you know, general speaking with the Trump Administration his problem, and its a growing problem with the electric tort and for i think the country as a whole is the tone of his administration. You know, with some policies you can see well, hes not that far out of the mainstream b ut its the whole tone of the presidency that i think what he says, what he tweets. People want a president to be strong, but they want him to be noticeable or at least from some noble instincts. And these are pretty hard to find with this presidency and its beginning to tell at the polls. Mr. Rather, can we talk a little bit more about what unites us, your book. Reflexes on patriotism. There it is. Why is it so important . You said you wanted to talk about bringing the country together and whats really important in america, but take us behind the story. Why did you do it . Well, you know, don, there are things that through our history that have held us together. And one of those things, for example, is we are an empathetic people. But we have a pleef in the vote. One person, one vote. We argue about this in some policies in our efforts to even though keep certain people from going to the polls, primarily on the basis of race. But the fundamental american belief has always been, you know, one person, one vote. Certain people, only white men who owned land. Women were kept from it for a long tile. My point is this. We need to have a discussion about what patriotism is here in the second decade of the 21st century. I have my own ideas about patriotism, but the books goal is not to be a not to preach to anybody. Just say we need to have a conversation about what patriotism is. And i would say, don, very important to understand the difference between patriotism and nationalism. And some of the extreme nationalism thats being preached now, including trouble with what the president and his aides say is extreme nationalism of the its economic nationalism and its racial nationalism. And that we know from history is very dangerous. So the book makes an effort to point out some of those things and say, you know, lets have a civil discussion when we can while standing for our principles and lets get back to listening to one another and see if we cant get the country back on a steady course. Dan rather, thank you. I appreciate it. Thank you, don. Always appreciate it. Absolutely. The book is called what unites us, reflexes on patriotism. And well see dan soon. When we come back, our new cnn poll that the president should be paying attention to. Were going to break down the startling numbers about his reelection chances one year after the president shocked the world and won the white house. Do americans have buyers remorse . Manolo youre so cold, come in whats wrong . Its dry. Your scalp . Mine gets dry in the winter too. Try head and shoulders dry scalp care it nourishes the scalp and. Keeps you up to 100 flake free head and shoulders dry scalp care one year later President Trump is still touting his massive Electoral College win on twitter, but today its the democrats who are celebrating. Here to discuss cnn political commentator jason miller. Senior Communications Adviser to donald trump during the campaign. And bill burr ton, former Deputy White House press secretary for president obama. Good to see you jason and bill. Havent seen you in awhile. Bill, i want to ask you about this. The president tweeted this today. Congratulations to all of the deplorables and the millions of people who gave us a massive landslide victory. Thats great, but that was last year. Do you think that what we saw last night is the start of a wave of democrats taking back power . Well, look, if i were President Trump i would want to be talking about anything but what happened last night as well. I think that the elections that happened all across the country were a real repudiation of him and his kind of politics. And i think democrats have a lot to look forward to. And if i were paul ryan and mitch mcconnell, island be very nervous about my majorities in the house and senate and things like tax reform. You know, members in california where i am right now have to be looking at that tax reform bill and being quite nervous about whats in it, what it means for the people of california and what donald trump means for their reelection prospects. Im wondering if last night worries you, jason also if you look at this, right, because a year ago tonight President Trump was elected president. Today only 33 of americans think donald trump deserves to be reelected. What do you think . Yeah. And those numbers were very similar before the election last year. But happy anniversary, by the way. But the thing with the tweet, here is what really got me going about the tweet. Is why did he put 306 electoral votes . Thats how many he got. I know a couple people decided to go and cheat on the whole deal. Lets be proud about the 306 electoral votes. Sorry. I just had to get that off my chest. Last night doesnt worry you and the poll numbers because bill said he would be worried if he were a republican and President Trump. Are you worried about that and do the poll numbers factor into the i think there are a couple of takeaways, but i think the fact that democrats won a couple of blue state elections isnt the time to go and set off the alarm bells. I think there is a message thats being sent to republicans on capitol hill and that they need to get with President Trumps agenda and embrace economic populism. This message that hes been doing and actually start getting things done. Here is the thing. With he cant just go and pass tax cuts as republicans and think that thats going to magically fire up at trump voters. Trump voters arent magically aligned with all republicans. Think about the democrats and the independents that he was able to get on board. There were a couple things late in the game that he came abhord. Voters can see right through that if someone is not fundamentally on board. We have to have candidates who are going to inspire and excite people and i think theres a real danger as we talk about the democrats if they dont come up with a positive message on their end, look, the threat of a Speaker Nancy Pelosi is something youre going to see republicans talking about and the other thing too, i think theres a real concern for democrats if they keep running around with this crazy impeachment talk for this year, i mean, that could really hurt their chances and turn out republicans next year. Listen, bell, ed gillespie hadnt even given his concession speep last night and the president had already thrown him under the bus. I know. I pray that republicans listen to jason and believe what hes saying and think that what they really need is more trump. Here is the problem for President Trump. He won with 46 of the vote last time around. Right now in cnns last poll his Approval Rating is at 33 . So that once one in four people who voted for donald trump, who were there for him during all the awful things that he said during the election somehow have gotten to the point where they say you know what . Its been too much. And the thing that has happened between election day and yesterday is that donald trump has been president and people have seen the proof in the pudding of what that means in their lives. So if republicans think that republicans need more donald trump in their lives, id be happy to pay for the plane fair for donald trump to come out and get in the game because he is the ticket to republicans not being able to hold on to their majority in the house and the senate. But bill, if theyre going and the republicans are talking about some of the things that the president ran on, think about the speech that he gave at get tizburg last year prosecute the election, the ethics reform, term limits on capitol hill, making sure that members of congress cant go and then become lobbyists, infrastructure plan, school choice. These are some policies that i think can really go and motivate and fire people up, bring out the trump voters like we saw last year. But thats what youre going to have to do to get some of this excitement back. Here is the problem, though, for the trump message is that if you look in virginia at the places where trump did very well in 2016, ed gillespie did very well too. The problem is that democrats were energized and people who were in the middle, especially millennial voters who came out in force for ralph northam, we are energized as a party in coming out and voting. And even when republicans are performing at the same levels for donald trump, its not enough to win. Are they going to be that excited for pelosi next here . I tell you what, i dont think anybody is out there confusing northam for chance the rapper. Its because donald trump has been president that democrats are showing up in force and millennials are saying enough is enough. Weve got to find places where we say this is the line. Were not going to cross it and theyre engaged and theyre in the game. And thats a real problem for republicans. I want to ask you about this, bill. Joe biden reacted to last nights results as well. Here he is today. They want to do everything that you would see in one of the historic cities in america. Folks coming out from under rocks and out of the feelgds with torches carrying swasicas, literally citing the same, the samt exact antisemitic bile that you heard and we heard in the 30s. Did you ever think that would happen and then have those who were protesting compare it as a moral equivalent to those people . Folks, this is eating at the fabric of this country. It is wrong. And i think what happened last night all across the country, including with republicans, is tired of this. Its undermining the social fabric of the nation. And this phoney nationalism. He is so running. But thats not my question, bill. Do you think hes right . Hes so right. Hes great and its great to have him out there on the public stage. What virginians said was that they saw Ed Gillespies campaign that tried to echo donald trump as it related to immigration, confederate monuments and they were like no, no, no, no, no. This is a place where we need a correction. And if you look deep down in the races, the fact that the first transcandidate won is going to be a lejs lay tore in virginia running against the most homephobic lejs later in that state. You had examples of this all across the country where, you know, people are bending the arc of progress towards the kind of america that they want to live in. And so there was a real rejection of donald trump and his rhetoric on race, on immigration and a real step forward for this country. Am i right, though, bill . Is he running . I dont know. I would think that Vice President buy den wants to keep that door open and i think that he would be awesome in the race for president. He would bring a lot. Jason, do you think hes running . I hope so. His book tour will be the launch of his campaign. Thank you. I appreciate it. Both of you. Former president barak obama doing today what millions of ordinary americans do every day. He reported for jury duty, showing up at the courthouse in chicago where he still has a home, even though he currently lives in washington. Obama was assigned to a panel that did not get called, and so he was ultimately dismissed from the jury pool. 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This is a guy who is in deep trouble of the hes got a lot of farrah violations that are probably out and evident. And i think Robert Mueller can bring tremendous pressure. He doesnt have the resources to defend himself and trump is not going to cover the bill. So if i were him, i would make a deal as quick as i could. Now that the indictments have been handed down to manafort and gates, does it make sense that mueller would shift the focus to flynn . Look, mueller has enough prosecutor editorial horsepower to target all these guys simultaneously. These are guys who are very accustomed to running complex multivaried investigations and operations against things like drug as i understand cats and terrorist rings and all things like that. So they understand how to go after complex sets of relationships like this. He can walk and chew gum and indict mike flynn all at the same time. This is Michael Flynn. Its at the rnc last year. Responding after chants of lock her up broke out in the crowd. Watch this. Damn right. Exactly right. Theres nothing wrong with that. And you know why . And you know why . You know why were saying that . Were saying that because if i, a guy who knows this business, if i did a tenth, a tenth of what she did, i would be in jail today. Mike, do you think that he regrets those comments that he made during the heat of the campaign and how much do you think this investigation played into all those voters decisions at the ballot boxes yesterday . I cant speak to whether or not he regrets it. Weve known all along. This isnt like papadopoulos which was kind of a new name. Manafort and flynn and his son are people weve known this entire time were targets of this investigation and that may be brought in. So theres nothing super surprising about hearing about this tonight. I think weve all been sort of saying when would this happen when it comes to news coming out about Michael Flynn. What he was talking about from the stage there, of course, are the things that Hillary Clinton was accused of doing National Security adviser and his son who was his personal assistant, thats not a big deal youre not down playing it, are you . No. Look, if they did something illegal, they should be prosecuted for it. If anyone ever did collude with the russians, they should be prosecuted. Russia is an enemy of the country and i dont believe that we should take it lightly that they tried to medal in our election. What ive been on the record with you many times is saying i find it hard to believe that there was some grand conspiracy to collude within the Trump Campaign is they could barely collude with themselves. I think theres going to be some random people that are getting wound up in this investigation, but thats a far cry from some huge conspiracy. They were incompetent flynn has been brought up. Weve known this was going to be talked about. Angela, so yesterdays races were state and local, but with the way the president and the russia investigation has dominated the national discourse, it seems like it was at least something voters thought about, right, when they went to the polls. I think they not only thought about the russia investigation, but they thought about the integrity of the president and what he represents. The fact that you cant take him at his word. The fact that he changes his mind with the wind. And that type of instability is not only dangerous, i think it certainly threatens our National Security interests didnt they know that from the campaign, angela, all the time you know, don, you would essential think so, wouldnt you . I think that from a personal standpoint its been maddening to me that it took all of this time for donald trump to prove that he was exactly who he said he was from the moment he came down the escalator to announce his campaign. I think many of us all knew that. But maybe other folks were fooled because they might have watched him on a reality show so they wanted to give him a chance before they fired him. I dont know. But what i do know is this is no laughing matter at this point. There are a number of issues at play. The fact that flynn lied about his contacts with the russians while he worked at the white house, the fact that his son made contacts and the fact that Jeff Sessions frankly perjured himself during his nomination hearing. You said that they wouldnt have gotten away with this because they could hardly collude with themselves. It looks like theyre not getting away with it. Hold your thought. Ill let you respond on the other side. Stick with me. When we come back right back, will more republicans embrace or reject trumpism after last nights resounding win for democrats and why didnt it work for ed gillespie . Spread a little love myy way spread a Little Something to remember philadelphia cream cheese. 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Yet today people in congress and his own administration know that this president is a clear and present danger whos mentally unstable and armed with nuclear weapons. And they do nothing. Join us and tell your member of congress that they have a moral responsibility to stop doing whats political and start doing whats right. Our country depends on it. Fomy doctor recommended ibgard. Abdominal pain and bloating. Now im in control of my ibs. Nonprescription ibgard calms the angry gut. Democrats and why didnt it w k its been a year since Donald Trumps upset victory and the president ial election, but when you take Hillary Clinton off the ticket, is trumpism still a winning formula . Back with me now mike fields, angela rye and rick wilson. Mike, you were saying what you didnt say that they were going to get away with. You were responding to angela. I was saying that the idea that theres some grand conspiracy to collude is what i find laughable, not that anyone would get away it. No one should get away with anything. But to talk about virginia, don, i was a strategist on karen handles campaign in georgias sixth congressional district. In fact, i wrote a column on cnn. Com about lessons republicans can learn from it. And i think its really interesting to look at sort of that was a district that was a 4847 win for trump. So democrats thought it was in play and we ended up winning by six points. It really isnt you know, virginia, lets just look at the numbers. Virginia has gone democrat president ial for the last two president ial elections of the its elected two democratic senators. It just elected a Democrat Ralph Northam who by the way was saying he was for sanctuary cities. What i find really interesting today is watching believe me, i think tone matters. I think there is a real lesson for republicans from this election, too. Go ahead, finish your thought. There is a lesson for republicans here in terms of how they deal with donald trump in the midterms and what the issue agenda they are talking about. I believe trump really motivate democratic voters to show up. I believe in the suburbs, the independent voters looked like democrats. If you are you should learn a lesson they have got to pass their agenda and speak to voters. I got to get to the other guys, go ahead, rick, how do you respond to that . There is no question that virginia is a swing state, still and ed, and the fact the matter while Northern Virginia is quite democratic, the rest is a swingy state. The fact the matter is, something happened to donald trump where they come out explicitly to blow drip out of the water. Did you think it is a policy agenda or a tone . I think there is a twofold problem here. The policy agenda of the republican side associated with us ms 13, confederate monuments, and the racial incident there, that became the republican factor. Ed glestby, it became this campaign of confederate mo monuments and trumpism without trump and people in virginia rejected out right. They rejected, donald trump has a 33 Approval Rating in the old d diminion. President trump believe that his failure had nothing to do with him. He worked hard but did not embrace me or what i stand for and including what rick just said. How worried should rick be . He embraced trumpism. Hes also a george w. Bush guy. Hes a traditional republican so it shocks some folks whether they are republicans or democrats that he would take this considering what just happened in charlottesville. The real issue for republicans to consider is not one of tone at all, it is the policy that you continue to push thats p pois poisono poisonous, virginia voters went to vote against what was happening with healthcare. Thats what you see overwhelmingly in the exit polls. I think the issue with tax reform is you are kind of tone deaf, if you are sending ou out i talked about this earlier today. If you want to simplify the tax code and fill out your tax returns on a note card or postcard and send it back to support this movement, thats not accurate. People know either tax cuts or wealthiest, it is going to be tax in paying the middle class. If you are messaging this in your policy, it is even worst. We saw trump is a may not work with trump or may not all but does it work without Hillary Clinton, well go into that after the break. Ing. Im having breakfast at the pantheon. What an amazing view. Of your finger. Look at this view. Your finger isnt that incredible. Your finger and check this one out oh its so amazing move your finger three times points on travel and restaurants on every continent. Sapphire reserve, from chase. Make more of whats yours. 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Angela, does it work without hillary . I am sure hes going to find another boogy man. It is a common messaging tactic. It is translating, of course, to politi politics. It was clearly a bully and trying to be a boogy man himself. We remember the moment where he was standing behind her in the president ial debate. It can work and the problem is their policies and as i have said in the last segment and we have to ensure we are telling people how detrimental they are. Mike, does it work . Does he have to find another foil . Yes, one person despite of Hillary Clinton is nancy pelosi. You have a combination of republicans on taxes and the economy. The economy is doing well. Well run against nancy pelosi, it works every time. It is a problem that gillespie did not have a foil to run against and now shes better than Hillary Clinton. I heard some analysis who says that nancy pelosi may have a real possibility of becoming speaker again. Boy, republicans are going to love that and thats what they are going to run on. Now you are confirming it. Appreciate it. This is cnn tonight, i am don lemon. There is breaking news on the russian investigations. President trumps first National Security adviser, Michael Flynn is worried of the potential legal fate of his son. More breaking news, President Trump is in beijing meeting with his chinese counter part, president xi