Own all of it. I think the sad part is that nothing seems to matter. Most people wont read the Mueller Report, they wont see the evidence, they will see what the attorney general said about it and they will hear what the president said about it and his spokespeople and they know that. I wish the rule of law matters and people cared more about facts. It does and it has to, we have to be careful. The way you goat a meduro. In truth we agree all of the time, i think i was a couple tequillas in at the time, but you said something about the way democrats may go forward when we were eating the other day. I was like look i dont see the benefit and you said i hear you, but youre assuming everyone will read this report like you, but if they see people say the same things on tv it will resonate in a way the report wont ever. You were right about that. I did not give that enough weight and i understand that now about the calculus of what they have going forward. Yeah, like it or not, many people just read the headlines and maybe a small part of the story, and many people just look at clips online and thats all they see. Im not saying anything is wrong with that, people are very busy, im not faulting them for that, but if it is so important to our democracy they should be more read in. And tv is impressive. People like to process you human to human. It is a plausible argument. But if you were to hear don mcgahn say yeah, i thought he wanted me to fire the guy. All right, well now that is compelling too, i get it, youre right. Someone that will give us amazing insight. I love having him on the show, you remember mcneil . Im going to get into it with fareed zakaria. He is sitting right here. That video of you and Steven Colbert says just about everything. Didnt rip my pants though, did i . Im not getting in the middle of that. This is between like an old married couple and im just one of them has ripped pants. All right, chris, listen, have a great weekend, i have to get to fareed, the rest of the program, sounds like an awesome lineup. We have a lot to talk about, President Trumps hour plus phone conversation with Vladimir Putin today. A call the kremlin says was President Trumps idea. Sarah sanders says that they hardly talked about the Mueller Report at all and russias election interference, watch this. The conversation on that part was very quick, but what i can tell you is this administration unlike the priest one takes election meddling seriously. Really . They have a funny way of showing it. It was Sarah Sanders who lets not forget admitted to muellers team that she lied to the American People. Should we probably take what he is says with a grain of salt. But think about this for just one minute. The president of the United States, i just a normal old call with his pal Vladimir Putin. Didnt tell him not to interfere in the election. Like we know he is planning to do again in 2020, didnt really talk about that. We didnt really discussion that. We discussed five or six things. We also wanted into great detail on various things. Why do you keep asking . I said i didnt tell him not to interfere did you ask him not to meddle in the next election . Excuse me, im answering this question, youre very rude. We know what they did talk about. The Mueller Report. The guy that investigated russians interference. We discussed it and he sort of smiled when he said something to the effect that it started off as a mountain and it ended up being a mouse but he knew that because he knew there was no collusion whatsoever. So pretty much thats what it was. So you talked to putin about the Russian Investigation, you just dont seem to want us to know exact will what was said. If if was a very, very brief part of the conversation, it should be pretty easy to tell us exactly what was said. But no, nothing to see here. Which is kind of the theme of this administration. Nothing to see here. Nothing to see when the president talks for more than an hour with the leader of an enemy agent. One that he spoke to in private multiple times without letting us know what was said. Talks for an hour, but doesnt tell him not to attack our election. Nothing to see when the president doesnt threaten. Do you decide whether or not you will invoke executive privilege for don mcgahn. His attorney general summarizes the report, nothing to see when that same attorney general insists that the president was falsely accused even though what mueller said was that he did not conclude that the president committed a crime, but he also did not exonerate him. Nothing to see when that attorney general waits until he is painted into a corner to admit that he didnt bother to review the evidence before he decided not to charge the president with obstruction. In reaching your conclusion, did you personally review all of the underlying evidence . No. We took did, mr. Rosenstein . No, we accepted the statements in the report as factual record. We did not go underneath it to see whether or not they were accurate. We accepted it as accurate. Nothing to see when the policy that lead to thousands of chirp being taken from the parents. But the thing is the more they tell you there is nothing to see here, the closer it gets to being a selffulfilling prophesy. If the American People let them get away with misdirecting and refusing to answer questions, there will be nothing to see. No facts, no evidence, nothing this president doesnt want you to see. Lets remember how the president started the week. He started by refusing to answer questions about whether or not White Nationalism is on the rise. Doubling down on his attempt to whitewash nationalism saying the nazis that openly paraded their hate in charlottesville were protesting the removal of a statue of robert e. Lee. Today two of them pleaded guilty to a federal crime for instigating violence. So charlottesville was not about a statue no matter what the president says, it was about hate on parade. That may not be what he would like you to hear, but it is a fact. A fact. Will americans continue to let this president hide the facts . Will you . The president says he didnt tell putin to not interfere in the next election . Is that derelict of duty . That question to fareed zakaria, next. [woman] with sharks duo clean, i dont just clean, i deep clean carpets and floors, so i got this. Yep, this too, and this, please. Even long hair and pet hair are no problem, but the one thing i wont have to clean is this because the sharks selfcleaning brush roll removes the hair wrap while i clean. 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They got him to be nominated for the supposed peace that could come about. They could essentially get trump to agree to a deal that they would not have to give up their nukes. Thats what they were proceeding on. It ended up being mike pompeo, and the whole thing collapsed and now the North Koreans are doing precisely what was said. He said were this close to war, it was simply because the North Koreans were testing missiles. Theyre doing exactly that. They still have 60 Nuclear Warheads we thought they might have, but donald trump doesnt talk about it because he thought he would be the peacemaker. A love affair. He said we were in love. Imagine if barack obama said that. The whole thing was trump negotiating 101. Im sure he agrees. Also wanting to work with russia, i mean you listen to this phone call, the president talks to and repeats what putin tells him. Is he naive . Lets look at venezuela. He says we have nothing special, just a positive outcome. Trumps own secretary of state has said in the last two weeks that the russians effective will are probleming propping up the regime. He said just a couple days ago. The tuesday uprising, they tried to get a uprising in venezuela that failed. It failed because but the russians talked him out of it and told him no, stay there and continue to repress your people. That is trumps secretary of state version of what the russian involvement is. I mean, it is the definition of nye weave in. Him not telling putin not to medal in the election, is that a failure of duty . I get that he is not going to revisit that issue with pugh tip, but i think this would be an opportunity for him to demonstrate that he cared about this. He was willing to dra a line and he doesnt think he needs the russians to help him win. I said we draw a line and the dreks, it is that he never wants to confront putin. I will point out that in that same conversation, that same meeting, he never misses a chance to Say Something nasty about our allies. My people came to me, dan coats and others and they said they think it is russia. I have president putin that just said its not russia. Ly say this, i dont see any reason why it would be. I have great confidence in my intelligence people, but i will tell you that president putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today. It is like he is a spokesperson for the kremlin, no . You think about what putin must be thinking at that podium to hear the president of the United States saying my intelligence people tell me this, but Vladimir Putin said it very strongly so i believe him. I mean that has got to to be the greatest success for an foreign intelligence operation ever. Saying that they believe him despite all of the evidence. That is pretty impressive. Did you say that putin sort of smiled when they talked about election meddling. Unless they were on video conference, maybe that was it, but what do you think of that . His whole interactions, its very different than his interactions with the elected leaders of the west. Was he making a joke about the Russian Investigation . He keeps trying to be little it. Lets put that aside in a way. Youre not going to get donald trump to say that the russians meddled in 2016 buzz to him that means his election was illegitimate. We know the russians have ongoing operations. What theyre trying on in the ukraine theyre going to try in european elections. We know this because of his own intelligence people. I have to ask you quickly before you go. You posted this question on your latest oped. You asked is there a donald trump doctrine . What is the answer . It is very dark that the United States gets to do whatever it wants when ever it wants. John bolten said the United States has the right to intervene in any country in the western hemisphere when ever it wants. 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The president is banking on a strong economy. Joe biden is now saying he will make america moral again. This is money versus morals . I think there is something to that. There is no certainty. There is no question that the economy is going great. The question is how much do you credit donald trump with that . I think a lot of it goes to president obama. He turned it around and presided over this massive expansion. He is still going strong, but no question that whoever is in office at the time they have the benefits but they are decidedly limited. Look at the case that trump is at about 40 approval. If you were a normal resident, if you would stop tweeting, talking, and offending 60 of americans, he just cant help himself. You saw 2010 a lot of republicans in congress wanted to run on the economy and trump refused. He wanted to run on a hysterical campaign that backfired on him. There is a chance it backfired as well. It ended with todays powerful economic numbers, in there was a horse race for 2020, what would happen . Money or morals . If the economy is like it is right now, donald trump is a hands down favorite. Look at donald trump, who he was when he ran in 2016, and who he is now. He is just as insulting to other people. He is just as impulsive on twitter, and just as unpredictable and untethered to the truth. People know what theyre getting with him, and they look at the fact that if im going to have more money in my pocket, gdp at 3. 2 been 263 jobs alone. The American People will stand by him because he is making progress on the economy and many people look past the flaws of donald trump and say the ends justify the means. I am going to point out that youre a trump supporter and that youre just as untethered to reality. The truth hurts, don, thats the reality. Look we all knew this about him when he ran in 2016. At the end of the day, i thought he would be strong on the economy, i thought he would deliver on the supreme court, on securing the border, and it looks like potentially this week he is making more room on infrastructure. He has to keep in mind if he is going to run on the economy he needs to be focused and messaged. The president bragged about the job numbers today, and voter who is give them good marks on this issue. This is a cnn poll by the way, you think he can ride that good Economic News to a second term . Look, you know what im going to say here. I say it every time this comes up. President s get too much credit when the economy is good, km too much credit when the economy is bad. We dont know what economy would like like with a different president. Maybe we would have the same levels of growth, maybe we would have trade roles turns around. I dont know if the trends will continue, and if he has anything to do well. Them or not, it is completely possible that the economy will turn based on how long the economy is going on. Were about to break a record. So im not saying that trump will be the one to cause a recession that were about to have a recession, but it is in the realm of possibility. If that happens i find it highly doubtful that trump will take as much credit for a downturn as he is, of course, for the good numbers, but that could weigh on him. As max points out, his numbers are not particularly good, even given that we have a strong economy. If things turn which, again, it is not outside of the realm of possibility, it will really look good for him. If he does it will be another caravan or something to take the focus off of that. These numbers could hold up. This is Mick Mulvaney today. Are you better off. It is the economy, stupid, people will vote for someone they dont like if it is good for them. Is that right . Some people will, i wont. To me there are things more precious than a strong economy. It is not what we have at the moment. And also, things like racism, the way that donald trump is tearing at the fabric of our society. It is just the law of economics. We need to be concerned about what kind of country is donald trump going to leave us . Is it where ethnic and racial groups are pitted against one another. That is not a outcome that i can count on. And i hope that other people out there share those concerns. In 2018 the republicans got trounced. Is that a smart bet that it is the economy, stupid . If donald trump is on the ticket, it is a safe bet. Donald trump is someone that can motivate people to come out to the polls. I cant quickly say that the president met with faith leaders and they joined with him at the white house yesterday. He has the evangelical support because of the president standing up for religious liberty. 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The firefighters endorsed biden and the suggestion that he and giuliani are trying to get the Justice Department to investigate joe biden. You can see them teeing up a lock them up type of campaign. Trump is very worried about biden and i think there is several reasons for that. Also the fact that biden is making such a powerful moral case against trurp and we will see how that plays. They also, the political game here of biden leading in all of the polls certainly. The general election head to head, biden leading a trump in a head to head. That right this im sure has gotten the ire. The lead dog has the best view, but he also has a target on his back. The reason that joe biden is going after the heart and soul of the moral of the country. I dont see that as dismantling. I think those are the kinds of things that gets the president up early and tweeting often. Since you talked about that, i want to put this up, anyone else besides President Trump would be unbeatable. But we looked at how they faired, here is biden, there is biden, right . 51, president 4 5. Sanders 50 to 44, buttigeig. There you go, the only person not up there is elizabeth warren, but what does that say here. Even if voters vote for trump because their 401ks are doing well, they may be saying is it worth it . Is it worth it for my 401k to be fatter if were putting babies in cages. Is it worth it for my wagers to will stronger if he cant condemn neonazis, sucks up to president putin. People are voting on values. The economy was good in 2016. The affairs and on and on. But it continued improving since then. Are you saying they are focusing on character or all voters should do more . I think you could think about these issues, the sort of constellation of these issues is even if the economy is doing well, i dont believe that donald trump cares about peep like me as much as they care about the titans of wall street. Also i dont think that they are forgetting about the forgotten man. There are some pocketbook issues, of course, but beyond the pocketbook issues there are issues of values, and i think people are not willing to say that one completely offsets the other. And just in an effort of fairness, i want to put up elizabeth warren. He is is running a campaign that is focused on inequality and the domestic policy. A big part is that right now the way the democrats are voting, campaigning, and the issues theyre pushing, the green new deal, medicare for all. Those policies are too far left for mainstream america. And majority of voters dont want to focus and nominate someone with those issues. Thats why joe biden is going after these moral issues. But the key is not just about money or morals, but who will motivate people and you have to give them something to vote for, not just go out and say vote against trump. I want to give max the last word here. Do you see the candidates up against trump, do you think that votes for a lot of voters . I think what you see is a lot of concern among voters about the president that donald trump is. How disruptive, how offensive, but i think they want reassurance that the democrats wont turn trump on to venezuela. And they meet that test which is why i think theyre so far ahead of trump in those head to head match ups. Thank you, i appreciate your time. Vice president pence visiting today. Were going to speak with two of the pastors, next. It kills weeds, prevents crabgrass and feeds so grass can thrive, guaranteed. Our backyard is back. This is a scotts yard. When i had my brother take me places, it was always like, we had to get there early so i could smoke a cigarette before we go inside. We always had to stop for cigarettes. Its true. I decided i needed to find an alternative. So i started looking and then juul came up. I did both for a while. And eventually i just switched over, its very quick. I remember recently you asking me like did you want to smoke before we go in . 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One month ago three historically black churches were burned tragically. Its satisfying and its uplifting. Weve seen hate filled attacks in the United States and all around the world. One month ago three historically black churches were burned tragically in louisiana. So listen. Today the Vice President visited the site and your church. How do you feel about support youve received from the Trump White House . Its satisfying and its uplifting because of they had veterans and we were kind of concerned of how we our government would react simply because we are veterans and we thought we should have a better representation from the head of our country. But now im reassured right now because of the reaction that were getting, especially the visit of Vice President mike pence. Im encouraged right now because of the action of the country. The country has been so supportive. And for us because we didnt know what we were going to do during after the fire. We didnt know what reaction we were going to have but im so encouraged right now and elated. The reaction that they had and what we have the people that supported us. I can only be just joyful. Joyful in the lord as they say. Reverend. Ive got to ask. Joy of the lord is our strength. Ive got to ask you. There was criticism that president didnt talk about this. He did talk about it yesterday and as reverend tucson said that was good. Its good now. Now that the administration has acknowledged it. And do you think that theyre going to help. Do you feel satisfied with it . Well, im optimistic, don. I feel like after this tragedy the country is coming together. I appreciate the fact that mr. Trump did acknowledge the fact that we had this tragedy here in louisiana and i was encouraged today when mr. Pence came and visited with us. I respect our leadership. One thing i know, don, if youre going toby a leader, youve got to acknowledge the suffering of christ. If thats where his heart is i believe year going to be helped. You just heard from the president and he talked about attacks on religious communities and thats awful and hate crimes rising. Do you believe the white house, the country is doing enough to condemn acts of hate . Well, you know, don, you could always improve. Theres always room for improvement. I wouldnt know how much is enough. But at least i feel confident that at least theyre reaching out. More could be done. Theres always ram for improvement. What do you think reverend tucson, what do you think needs be done about the rising that country can do to reverse this tide of hate crimes and so forth . The only thing we can do is the people that dont hate, the people that dont seek to hurt somebody, to rise up themselves and cant go back into a closet and be fearful off those that hate. You see because you cant defeat hate with hate. Youve got to defeat hate with Something Else. Theres no um. We, as a spiritual advisors or spiritual people. We have to encourage Something Else besides hate. It i cannot endure even though somebody hate you. Really pretty much they hate you without a cause. So i encourage this nation. Hate is exactly. I dont wake up in the morning with somebody else on my mind. I agree. Unfortunately, i got to run. Listen, we are rooting for you and praying for you. Anything we can can do, let us know. Ive got to get to breaking news. I appreciate you giving us that time. Absolutely. And thank god for you. We appreciate you, don. Thank you. Please pray for this country and all of us. This is what we want to do. God bless you. Thank you. Talk to you guys soon. Yep, this too, and this, please. Even long hair and pet hair are no problem, but the one thing i wont have to clean is this because the sharks selfcleaning brush roll removes the hair wrap while i clean. [announcer] shark, the vacuum that deep cleans now cleans itself. 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