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Case. And the chinese lady at maralago, it started as a joke, but now our intel folks, theyre not laughing. We have their reasons for concern. My friends, it is never boring. Tonight it matters. So lets get after it. So heres the big story, the New York Times reports some members of team mueller believe the attorney general failed to adequately characterize the findings of their inquiry that the stuff in the report is worse for this president than as summarized and the timing could not be better for the democrats. Theyre ready to send a subpoena for the full Mueller Report, and now the house ways and Means Committee, only one with this power, they can call for the president s taxes, they can call for anybodys taxes. Theyre asking for personal and professional taxes from the president from 2013 to 2018. Along with, like, eight of his business entities. So this is going to be a legal fight. It will certainly be a political fight. A general question is, is this about generating heat or light . We have the perfect guest for tonight. Congressman tom suozzi, democrat from the president s home state of new york. Welcome to prime time. Hey, chris. Thanks for having me on. Good to have you. So, first, the question of legitimacy. We all know well, i know what the statute says, that your committee is able to get this. Do you think there is any check on your authority . I think its very clear that the chairman of the committee has the power to make a request for anyones tax returns from the treasure secretary through the irs commissioner. And its just as simple as that . No pushback, no political tricks that can be done, not hanging you up in court forever . The language is pretty clear. It says shall, and shall deliver the. Of course, im sure if the president decides he wants to or his team decides they want to, theyre going to try to pursue some legal strategy. It may be in their best interests to move forward and get this put behind them. Is it a check on your authority if the president is under audit at the time . Well, this is a very interesting thing that i dont think anybodys been talking about. The chairman of the committee has said very clearly that the reason hes asking for these tax returns is because there is a policy in the Internal Revenue service that says very clearly that every president is supposed to be audited by the irs. And the question he wants to find out has have they done their job . Back in the carter administration, the irs put something in their manual that said we want to take the discretion away from the irs because we dont want to force irs employees to have to make a decision, should we or shouldnt we audit the president . And instead every president is supposed to be audited by the irs. So you get the can you do it. Do you have the right, then you have the is it right to do it. What are you hoping for politically comes out in these and what do you see as the risk . Im not really concerned about the political aspects. I think this is a policy issue that we have to do in the ways and Means Committee. One great thing about our chairman, richie neil, he said from the very beginning hes going to be very judicious and deliberate throughout this process. Hes going to following the rules, hes going to have hearings and hes going to make sure that whatever he does is going to be subject to scrutiny by people and it will hold up in a court of law, so hes been very, very careful throughout this process and hes made it very clear this is not about politics, this is about policy. This is a very narrow and targeted request. What happens is because weve never seen a president get put through this before. What happens if you get the taxes, there is nothing damning in the taxes that really matters in terms of what were asking. Could it backfire and make it look like youre beating up on the president for no good reason . Listen, the chips will fall where they may. This shouldnt be about politics. We have a job to do to actually look at policy and look at legislation. This is the job were supposed to do. Its a knifes edge, where we have to do our job but at the same time we have to coverage and we cant go too far that it looks partisan and we cant go too far the other way that we dont do our job to actually do the oversight were supposed to do. In this case, were doing oversight of the irs to find out if theyre complying with their requirement that they do an audit of the president without fear or favor. While i have you, congressman, what does the New York Times report mean to you, that some i just want to be careful about it. Some of muellers team are saying that they dont believe the a. G. s summary did justice to their findings, but they wouldnt tell the New York Times which findings they were talking about. I think what does that mean to you . It means to me that this is going to keep going on and on and on unnecessarily because if the president or if the attorney general, i should say, were to simply release the report, this would be over as far as a conversation. Lets get the report out there. Lets get it out. You want to redact things because you believe its proper to redact certain things . We understand that you have a duty to do, but lets just release the report. Thats what the public wants and the country needs to move forward. But the a. G. Says that is what hes doing. Hes just saying you guys only gave him a couple of weeks. It takes time. Well, the mueller team did summaries of their entire investigation and i dont believe its going to take the weeks that hes saying to get this out there. You know that theyre focused on this 24 hours a day. You know this is a very important part of what theyre working on right now and i dont believe its going to take shouldnt take weeks for them to get this report out. One of the questions that you guys will have to deal with politically is, you know, nowhere in the guidelines does it say that the a. G. Should answer a and if the special counsel cant. I dont know why mueller and his team didnt answer the obstruction question. That was his job. I thought he was in there because he was tough enough to make the tough calls. They didnt make a call on obstruction. The a. G. Stepped in with the deputy a. G. And made it. Thats not in the guidelines. Is that an issue for you guys . I cant really comment on that because i dont know what the report says or the findings say. I have Great Respect for mueller. I think most people in america do. As mr. Barr said, hes a straight shooter. Listen, the public just really wants to have the information. And we have to be very careful about all this stuff because i understand when people say youre getting too partisan. We have to try to be balanced, as i said earlier. Do our job as the equal branch of government to do oversight of the executive branch without going too far that its partisan. Thats a knifes edge that we have to balance on constantly. I think it was very helpful, for example, when Speaker Pelosi said i dont think impeachment is a good idea. That was before the Mueller Report came out. We need to be judicious and deliberate. I think the ways and Means Committee is doing that related to the tax rushes of the president and i hope thats what happens with muellers report as well. This is going to be tough with the taxes because youre going to get a fight and then there is going to be an expectation set. It will be a tricky balance. Well see how it plays out. Congressman suozzi, great to have you on the show. Hope to see you again. Thanks, chris. Be well. 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So lets put all the trappings of this aside and figure out whats going to really happen here. Especially this context of our other breaking story, about the disclosure that is being demanded now of mueller. This kind of all works together if you think about it, especially with some of muellers team coming out and saying the a. G. Did not tell you everything you needed to hear. So lets bring in someone who understands all this very well. David cay johnston once got access to stop of Donald Trumps 2005 tax return. Welcome to prime time. Always good to see you, brother. Good to see you. All right. So lets start with the will they. Do you think there is any way that the president can block the chairman of the ways and Means Committees request . No. Under a 1924 anticorruption law, the chairman of the ways and Means Committee, the Senate Finance committee or the employee of congress who is the chief of staff for the joint committee on taxation all have a right to see this. The law says the treasury secretary shall produce not just the tax return but any tax return information. That means if they have copies of the books and records of Donald Trumps companies, transaction records, audit notes, audit notices, many other things, and i suspect, by the way, this will also eventually get into any gift tabs returns donald trump may have filed. Now lets get into why they want it, what he should be concerned about. This is an interesting take from his former personal attorney michael cohen. Now i dont know that cohen ever saw the president s taxes or had anything to do with their preparation, but here was his take before congress about why the president didnt want them out. Statements that he had said to me is that what he didnt want was to have an entire group of think tanks that are tax experts run through his tax return and start ripping it to pieces and then hell end up in an audit and hell ultimately have tax taxable consequences, penalties and so on. Do you think thats what it is . I think thats exactly what it is. Keep in mind, donald trump has had two income tax fraud trials, the state of new york and the city of new york. He lost both of them and the opinions written by the judges excoriated him. His own witness, his then tax lawyer and accountant who represented donalds father, fred trump, testified against him. He was shown the tax return and he said thats my signature on the tax return, but neither i nor my firm prepared that tax return, which is a pretty strong badge of fraud. Now, lets look at the other side of the balance here. If the democrats do this, this is an unusual move. Its a power play. We havent seen it done to other president s. Now, the pushback will be they usually put out tax returns, that this president didnt, but isnt the bar going to be kind of high for them . That these tax returns better show something other than he didnt pay enough in taxes . Well, if the if the democrats find there is nothing there and come out and say, hey, guess what . Donald trumps clean as a whistle, i would expect the republicans would jump up and down with joy who decided to back donald trump. The issue here is really about oversight and preventing corruption. And what the tax returns will tell us are things like did trump overvalue and undervalue things to game the system . Did he take deductions as he did in the cases where he was tried for which there was no substantiation or basis . And did he have money flowing to him in ways that suggest that he may be in violation of american law or subject to some kind of pressure or blackmail from people overseas . You know, we just had tom suozzi on, hes on the committee. He said there is a law that the irs ought to audit every president. Its a clever answer. We know what this is about. We know what this will be perceived as being about. If you really think thats what the American People want. I thought the suspicion was if you watch other tv shows on at this time if you follow his money, david, youre going to find out hes compromised. If they dont find that in his taxes, i dont think that youre lending history. Isnt there going to be a threshold if this isnt met, this is bad for the left . It could well be bad for the democrats if they mishandle it. I think thats why richie neil has been careful about couching it the way he has. They dont get to put the returns automatically out in the public record. It says theyll be received for closeddoor sessions, but i do think as in the case of Richard Nixon we need to know whether our president is a crook. Right. I hear you on that. Its going to be an interesting political test. People will say this is all from the past. Hes been weighed and measured. Let me ask you Something Else. The New York Times headline. We knew this was going to happen. Some of muellers team is saying, hey, he didnt get it right. Where do you think this takes us in terms of how much comes out . Well, you know, william sapphire wrote a column about barr when he was attorney general for george h. W. Bush called the patsy prosecutor and how he did something just like he did here. He distorted facts and tried to do everything he could to protect the president. Weve seen the other independent counsel and special counsel reports with very minor redactions in only a few of them. Why are we not seeing the report . There must be a reason theyre withholding the report and im not surprised some of muellers team are ready to talk to reporters and say whatever you read, thats really not whats going on here. We need to see the report and we need to ask a fundamental question, if it exonerates you, why dont you want us to see every word of it . Look, thats a fair point. If the president wants closure, clarity brings closure, and barr did do something that arent in the guidelines. He says its all about guidelines. Got to hue to the law. Doesnt say that he takes the decision from the special counsel when the special counsel cant make a call. You know, you would think that would default to congress, but the a. G. Took the step with the deputy a. G. To make a call on obstruction. Thats not in the guidelines either. No, its not. And, chris, if you very carefully parse the letter, which is, you know, what lawyers and people who teach law like i do do, there are a lot of missing phrases. It refers to the russian government. The russian government operates through oligarchs in many cases. There is other language that suggests this was a very artfully written letter. Look, hes a sophisticated guy. We know that the president put him in didnt put him in there to be his enemy. There is a little precedent, by the way. The only other time weve had a special counsel since they rewrote the rules or wrote the rules for the special counsel, that was janet reno. She actually directed the special counsel in that case, release it right to the public. There were redactions but it only wound up being a dozen or so pages out of 200. That went right to the people. That could have been done here, same set of guidelines, didnt happen. So there you have it. Absolutely. David cay johnston, i call on you early and often because you make it better for my audience every time youre on. Thank you for helping us understand these things. All right. All right. So were seeing some video for the first time from former Vice President joe biden on the controversy that is surrounding him before hes even said whether hes running. So were going to show you the message and then were going to debate. Is this enough to deal with these allegations of what is termed unwanted touching . Thats where we start. Where we finish, no one knows. clients voice remember that degree you got in taxation . danny of course you dont because you didnt your job isnt doing hard work. 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Oh oh oh ozempic® ask your Healthcare Provider today about onceweekly ozempic®. All right. So heres the headline to start with. The former Vice President joe biden has put out a new video dealing with these questions surrounding his behavior in the past. Lets take a look. In my career, ive always tried to make a human connection. Thats my responsibility, i think. I shake hands, i hug people, i grab men and women by the shoulders and say you can do this, you know, our social norms have begun to change, theyve shifted and the norms of respecting personal space have shifted. I get it. I hear what theyre saying. Ill be much more mindful. Thats my responsibility, my responsibility, and ill meet it. Is that enough . Lets use that as the beginning of the great debate. Angela rye and scott jennings. Angela rye, not an apology to women who have come forward, but he says i get it, assuming that he will be different going forward. Your take . Well, first of all, i have always respected former Vice President bidens ability to tell the truth, to correct connect on an authentic level and be extremely transparent. I think the challenges here with this video are several. One, this is his first kind of video appearance since, you know, people really began to speculate that he was going to run for president this election season and hes not even micd up. This video looks bad. Im just saying from a pure optics standpoint, that doesnt go in his favor. True, of course, it is authentic and make it was in the moment and kind of a spur of the moment type of thing. I just dont like those particular optics. I do think it is a problem. If folks felt like they were that disrespected or that harmed that he didnt apologize for how at least he made them feel. I think that would have gone a lot further, but he is completely right when he says times have changed. That doesnt mean that the times that were were right, it means they were different. And i think joe biden saying im really going to take an opportunity with the way that ive engaged and determine where i need to course correct. I think the most important thing is it looks like consent doesnt just apply to, you know, what people do sexually, it also applies to people respecting physical space. I feel that way every time someone is right up on me in the line, chris, at the grocery store. I thought you were calling me out in the makeup room. I was at least seven feet away. I would have told you and then i would have tweeted. No, im just kidding. Scott, to you. Lord knows hes got no high ground on this issue. While this may be tough intraparty for joe biden, at least early on, he hasnt even announced yet. What does this mean for you guys . It Means Nothing for us. We should not talk about this. It appears to me the democrats are going to rip joe biden apart over this. Im a political operative. I look at it through that lens. This looks like a wellorchestrated hit job from one or more of the other democratic campaigns. Obviously theyre not going to let it go. Look, these other campaigns have a reason to attack biden for something, for anything, because hes one of the two clear frontrunners in this case. I think republicans can step back and let democrats sort this out. I agree with angela, i dont like when people get on me either. Horrible. I think its weird. Joe biden, were not talking about his behavior four years ago. He was Barack Obamas Vice President. This was in the very, very near past, and for eight years he was grabbing people, you know, gripping them, sniffing their hair and nobody in the Obama White House walked up to him and said, hey, man, cut it out with the creepy mccreeperson bit. I got to tell you, i dont think you can even use the verb grabbing because every time one of you guys says the word grabbing, it reminds this entire country of what our now president said on that video. Thats why you dont have high ground. But one other caution, angela, i do understand what scotts saying. Full respect looking at it through the lens of politics. But its also probably the only way the Trump Campaign look at it, can look at it, is to mock it and make a joke out of it. He cant be on the side of respecting times up and the me too movement. He is exhibit a of what youre not supposed to be anymore. Right. Hes 20plus accusers deep into the me too movement, and i think that is part of the issue. Whats so funny is, scott, you talked about the democrats are going to tear him to shreds. Its interesting to see that contrast, right . On one side of the aisle you have not just the candidate, but the commander in chief who had all those accusers and was still elected president , maybe by some outside help, well never know until that 400page report comes out, but i digress. Now on the other side of the aisle you have, well, let us look at the definition of content when you talk about sexual assault. Let us talk about what it means to respect someones physical boundaries. Lets at least analyze hat. Thats all good. This man who may be a candidate is saying im willing to succumb to the fact that times have changed and i may need to do something different. Thats all good and thats a conversation only one side can have and that sucks. Its something that needs to bring us all together. It should be nonpartisan. Let me ask you Something Else while i have you guys. Scott, this New York Times reporting, i knew it was going to happen. Not because im smart, its because its obvious. The longer it goes without the report coming out, the more people are going to nibble around the edges. People of his team saying barr didnt get it right. He didnt summarize it right. Theres a lot more in there. Do you think were going to get to see things . There is a lot of precedent to see a lot of this report. There is not a lot of precedent to only see a little bit of the report. Which way do you think it goes . I think were going to see most of the report. I think there are going to be proper redactions for intelligence material and theyll redact the names of people who are purely innocent and did nothing except cooperate willing this investigation. What concerns me about the New York Times report, again, i think we should see the whole report and i defend mueller and his team from the beginning. I didnt agree with the president attacking the fbi agents the way he did. People on muellers team are concerned about the narrative. Look, i think this is what got jim comey in trouble, his obsession with political narratives. I dont want them to tell me what i should think politically. I want to see the facts. They havent leaked once from the beginning, the fact that theyre leaking at the end thats not what they say. Do you have the full screen . Theyre worried about the narrative. Its going to listen, its going to lead people to believe that maybe trump had a point. I dont think so. Some of these people wanted an outcome. Put up the piece of the piece just so we can get the context right. Some of, remember, this is what they were hearing from people who know what these investigators are hearing. This is a few levels deep. Im not questioning the accuracy, just just saying the context. They were more troubling for President Trump than mr. Barr indicated. Thats not about narrative. Thats not about shaping. Its about how barr shaped whats going on. Angela, i think it takes us to the same place. My concern about the ways and means chair going after the taxes is when you want something, it raises a level of expectation. Here with this report its the same thing. When you in reverse. When you hide something right. It creates a level of expectation. I dont get if the president wants closure, clarity brings closure. Let it come out. He says he was exonerated. Well, and thats just it. He says he was exonerated, but, chris, we know he says a lot of things. In fact, its to the tune of 9,400 things that are not true. This very administration coined the term alternative facts. So what we should be hoping for is not a redacted report but a fullon report so that the American People can judge for themselves whats in it. I do not want to rely on attorney general barrs interpretation because we already know that hes been bought and sold at a price. It was clear before he was even nominated that that was going do be the case. Bought and sold . That is an outrageous allegation. Bought and sold . Are you suggestion corruption or bribery . This man was confirmed with a bipartisan vote. Thats an outrageous thing to say. I told chris i wasnt going to do this tonight. You go for it. Hold on. What you said was very provocative that hes bought and sold. Bought and sold at a price. Meaning hes another yes man in the same cabinet of people it sounds like youre saying there was corruption and thats why i let scott push back on you because we have no belief of that. Im sorry. That is a colloquial term. All right. Good distinction. He might not be bought and sold at a price, but there are a number of players around donald trump who are corrupt. Its clear theyve been indicted. Some of them convicted. So lets just be very clear about what is around him, what is surrounding him and why suspicion is so clear. Im glad you qualified it. Scott, im glad you pushed back on it. All right. Be have more information coming in just the past few minutes on that maralago arrest. Ill be honest, i thought it was just like a really kind of gunny interesting story. Because, you know, god willing, nothing bad happened, but now the Intel Community says shut up, cuomo, there are real questions here. 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[heartbeat] so, just as we started the show tonight we got some new details about what the suspect in the security at maralago is revealing about herself. The chinese woman who was charged in the case has told the judge shes an investor and consultant for a chinese company. Today we learned the fbi is now investigating to see this weekends incident and whether or not it could be part of an espionage plot. House intel chief adam schiff wants a briefing from the secret service, among others, which is defending its response. As for the president , nothing to see here. Gave me a little bit of information. No, im not concerned at all. I have we have very good control. We have extremely good and its Getting Better in cyber, frankly, what were doing with cyber is is a story in itself. No, i think that was just a fluke situation. God love him, but i dont even know what hes talking about here. If it werent for his receptionist, this lady would have found her way wherever she wanted to be at maralago. Raid the complaint. The complaint is out there for you to read. The receptionist said, wait, what are you here for . Thats not on the list. Then she brought back the secret service and they wound up taking her for more questioning because her story fell apart. Lets get some insight into what this could all mean. Former cia operative bob baer. Full disclosure, i thought this was a joke. I thought it was just funny she made it that far. Now the fbi and other intel agencies are saying not funny. Why . Well, chris, maralago has been a nightmare for the secret service and the fbi right from the beginning. Its indefensible, they know it. It would take a cia team, for instance, a couple of hours to wire the place, in the light sockets, sending out signals that are masked, that are encrypted, covered unam fm radio. You cant sweep a place like this. Everybody knows it. We have caught in this case i believe a chinese agent because there is no Cyber Security firm in china which does not report to the Intelligence Service. So the chances of her directly or indirectly working for chinese intelligence are very good. Now, is the relationship good enough, bob, where you can call over there during this, you know, big, you know, this big trade deal thats going on. Is the relationship big enough to call over and say, is this one of yours . No, the chinese are going to say no. Theyre going to absolutely deny it. But you have to remember the chinese, this is their most important target. They dont understand trump. Hes a complete mystery. So theres an obligation of chinese intelligence to get inside maralago because they cant get in the white house. So go to maralago. What goes through this guys mind . You know, good luck of the chinese finding out. How are they going to get that . Thats what the malware is about. Audio. They go to their room, get on their cell phones, you wire the rooms or get in the wifi and you can get all those conversations going out. Its amazing what you can get. Sweep it right up. Thats what can fall under the category of malware . Mr. Malware, yeah, get get into the wifi, get into cells. You can get into the whole system in the hotel and the chinese would use something as clumsy as someone coming up to the front gate and saying i got invited to a party . Well, you know, theres a lot of mistakes made. Theres probably a lot of chinese trying to get into maralago. The cia has made mistakes. So has the kgb. They seem comical to you, but this does happen. But i guarantee you that every Intelligence Service worth its salt is trying to get into maralago. And we simply got the low hanging fruit. You think its too dangerous to have him there . Look, for all the partisan battles going on, and i test the president almost every night. God forbid anything would happen to him. Is this about the secret service falling down on the job or is the job too tough to secure that place . You cant secure it. Its impossible. The only places you can secure are places areas in the white house, the fbi, the cia, theyre called scifs. Theyre like lead walls. You call anybody in the federal government with security clearance, theyll be gone all day because they cant have a cell phone. They have air gap commuters. The same applies to the president but he simply refuses to comply. He doesnt understand it. So what are the questions for you here . You know, just hold this lady. What concerns me is the rest of maralago and the professionals that are able to get in so easily because, remember, the secret service does not control the doors. And that is a catastrophe. Im not saying that as a slight on the secret service. No, not at all. But the receptionist, you know, this lady talked her way past the secret service. She just did. She wound up getting to the gate. She may have been driven there by a secret service guy, but she got up to talk to the receptionist. The receptionist pushed back on her and that wound up cycling into her detention. Thats a total accident because at the white house the secret Service Controls entry. They trace everyone who comes in. You cant do that at maralago with members and their children and the rest of it. Youve got this flow of people. Its a place that is wide open. It is true. I have gotten reports of people eating dinner there and the president s there. We all know what happened during the north korea situation where there were big shots around him, but other people eating dinner and hearing their conversations, hearing whats going pawn. I guess its a tough balance. You want him to live his life, but we only got one of them, weve got to protect him. Chris, when you become president , you sell your private life for the time youre in office. Thats the deal. Thats the contract. Hes not abiding by it. If this woman turns out to be a spy, that would be a real twist in the story. It seemed so obvious. If that is really what it is, thats impressive. Bob baer, thank you very much for your take on this. Appreciate it. All right. Were still trying to wrap our heads around the president s story when it comes to his own father, by the way. When i was joking about it with don last night, again, it was another one that i wrote off as not as serious as other stuff, but, you know, it winds up being symptomatic of a bigger problem. So the white house wont set the record straight about where the president s father was born. What is this about . Is there so much fear in the white house to do anything that the president doesnt want you to do, anything that might reveal some type of weakness that you cant even answer a question like that . The latest chapter, next. I have a vision correction number, but im more than a number. When im not sharing ideas with my colleagues im defending my kingdom. 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I mean, my mother was scotland, my father was germany. From germany, fine, you know, my fathers family is from italy. But he was born here. Just like the president s father. Now, for the last two days weve been doing something that is very routine that you dont get to hear too much about, which is we report on something, we hear about it, we go to the white house for an explanation. Well, what was at first radio silence, which is not unusual, has turned into deflection. One adviser says this now. Obama thought we had 57 states. Sometimes mistakes happen. Now someone who makes a lot of mistakes is d. Lemon, but hes never said anything like he doesnt know where his mama was born. Wake up, don. Like i said, makes a lot of mistakes. I was actually talking to and doing what do you want to know . Im actually doing research on this. How are you doing . Im good doing, brother. Wake up. Im doing good. As you know, as we say i am. A couple of things there. He said his dad was born in the eu. Well, i dont think ill give him from germany. You can say your parents are from somewhere if thats where their blood is. Okay. Fine, he says hes from germany. Thats fine. But to say he was born there. Not fine. Not fine because he wasnt. Not accurate. Is it a big deal . In the whole scheme of things, im sure the Mueller Report and the findings, that is a much bigger deal. Yes. But it just shows you how this president the point is they dont care, this administration, because for them to come out with an explanation saying well, you know, president obama or candidate obama when he was on the campaign trail he said, you know, he had been to 57 states, right . Okay, so, heres and at the time the press held obama to account. Asked him about it. He addressed it right after. And then went on to say i think i made a mistake. I hope i said 100,000 people talking about the cyclone in burma and 100 million people. And then at that point he had been on the campaign trail for i think 16 months at that point, and he said something dumb. We do it all the time. Yes. But guess what . He said i made a mistake. And he said it once. Its not about something he should have obviously we all know there are 50 states but, you know, you can misspeak. You say that your father was born somewhere that he wasnt repeatedly. Over and over. Its not a slip of the tongue. At a minimum its that this is something that hes convinced himself of for some reason from and he forgot the truth. Thats the bestcase scenario. The only part that bothers me is the white house. This white house and this administration, and the people around this president , will never admit a mistake. What is the biggest thing you ever asked god for forgiveness for . Why would i have ever asked god for forgiveness . Sins, lying, but who knows, who knows . This big news that we have been saying, weve been talking about barrs fourpage summary and that it didnt really show everything, how can you sum up 400 pages in just 4 pages . Well, here it comes. The New York Times reporting tonight, and Sheila Jacksonlee is here. Oh, good. Shes going to tell us what she thinks, where theyre going to go from this, asking, issuing subpoenas, how soon. Shes got information i dont think youll hear anywhere else. Stay tuned for that. Beautiful, i will be up once again watching d. Lemon, the closing is the anatomy of a crisis in Public Confidence. Ive been to all 59 states and i only have i mean, ive got a couple more to go to. Youll get there. Ill get there. See you later, bud. Now, we dont know whats in the Mueller Report, but you should. And why . Because the longer it goes this way the more nibbling around the edges. The more corrosion of public trust theres going to be. 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Easy. Because now xfinity lets you transfer your Service Online in just about a minute with a few simple steps. Really . Really. That was easy. Yup. Plus, with twohour appointment windows, its all on your schedule. Awesome. Now all you have to do is move. That thing. [ sigh ] introducing an easier way to move with xfinity. Its just another way were working to make your life simple, easy, awesome. Go to xfinity. Com moving to get started. The argument is that the anatomy of a crisis of Public Confidence is taking shape regarding the Mueller Report. Now that the probe is over the legendary quiet that mueller compelled among the ranks is over too. Sure enough the first wave shakes the foundations of trust in what the a. G. And the administration will do with the report. Heres the quote. Some on muellers team see their findings as more damaging for trump than barr revealed blasts a New York Times headline. We dont know what findings theyre talking about. But it sows doubt. The president made it worse by trying to make it all go away. It was a complete and total exoneration. Now, this is misleading to the point of a lie. Why . Well, because its an obvious deception. He has to know that the one thing he cant say accurately is that hes been totally exonerated because mueller and barr went out of their way to say there was no exoneration on the issue of obstruction, one of the two big things he looked at. So why deceive this way . Because the president doesnt think it will be exposed. Why would he think that . Because maybe you wont get to see all the facts. This is a suspicion that the a. G. Has fed, little by little, ever since his confirmation hearing when he told congress his intention was to let as much come out as possible. Recall i also believe it is very important that the public and congress be informed of the results of the special counsels work. My goal will be to provide as much transparency as i can, consistent with the law. Consistent with the law. But remember, he decides how much that is. There is no review. Its what he wants. And he seems to be limiting the amount more and more. What does that do . It fuels frustration and calls of a coverup more and more. So the right then says to the left, you people are sore losers. You just want to hang the president , and you dont care if you expose National Security issues and Confidential Sources in the process and the left says, really . Like you want to do with the pointless fisa reveal that can only distract from the president s problems . And the right says, well, yeah. And then we all sigh and then the left says we need to see it because we have a duty to check potus and wrongdoing need not be criminal so enjoy these subpoenas. And well take the taxes, too, while were waiting. And for all that ensuing drama there is something obvious here. While there may not be a crime of conspiring with russia to affect the election we all know there must be considerable wrongdoing when it comes to obstruction. Because we know for a fact it was enough to keep mueller from deciding whether he could prosecute for obstruction. So it cant be nothing. Nor a mere scintilla, or something that really isnt that much. Because if it were, it would not have stymied the special counsel, especially when he knows that it is awkward, if not embarrassing, for him to not make the call on whether to prosecute. Same goes for barr. He says i have to do it with what the law allows. Okay, where does it say in the law that you fill the void and decide theres no obstruction when the special counsel will not . Its in the in your guidelines. Now, some of the mueller team saying theres stuff in there that barr didnt do justice to, the doj insiders that are loyal to barr hitting back and saying, oh, yeah, if its so obvious why couldnt you do a job and make the call on obstruction . More and more as this goes back and forth. Its corrosive. And the public will pick up pieces of all this diet of dysfunction, chew it over and swallow different assumptions and the collective guarantee is a belch of bad feelings about the process and no confidence in anything that must have Public Confidence. The answer, now also the antidote to this damn dyspepsia, release the report, show everything to the gang of eight, show all but the most sensitive classified info to the full congress. People assume there is maybe to slow the process. Then let as much as can possibly pass muster come to the rest of us. The president says he wants closure. You want closure, you need clarity, you want clarity, you need transparency. Thats the only way youll get it. The democrats want to see what they have to act on. Well, there it is. The right wants to be about the rule of law, well, then do this the right way. Ideally you should get the same, if not amount, the same timing as congress. Any layer, any delay will breed suspicion. Lets be honest, theres not a lot of great reason to trust the people in power, especially right now. And there is precedent for more coming out. The only time weve had a special counsel under janet reno, branch davidian, she had the report go right to the public. Redactions, but not much. No matter how this goes if it comes out it will be in a better situation and put us in a better place than the way were headed right now and headed fast. Thank you for watching. Cnn tonight with d. Lemon right now. A couple things. I told you give you a little bit. Please. Dont want to give away too much. She made a point to me and i thought it was accurate. She said members of congress have the highest levels of security. Security clearance. Top secret. They see sources and methods all the time. They take an oath not to reveal those sources and methods