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I feel that i just need to do my part in the city that i grew up in for my whole life. Sarah spencer just moved to el paso from new jersey. How did it make you feel when you heard what happened here . Devastated. Devastated. I started crying. Reporter how does it make you feel now that youre sitting in this chair, giving blood and helping people. Wonderful. Many tell us they are stunned at what happened here and also stunned that the shooter appeared to be targeting latinos. It makes you angry. Sometimes the day it happened, i just cried because of the anger. This couple is from england. Before moving to texas, they lived in colorado. When we livid in colorado, we lived through columbine. So this isnt the first massacre that weve experienced and, unfortunately nothing much changed. Its a blight on the nation, essentially, in my opinion. Im a school teacher, and i walked into the classrooms and saw children from different ethnic backgrounds, i feel that diversity is the strength of this country. And so im here to support that diversity. Reporter supporting diversity, one of the reasons everyone we talked to was proud to be donating. Its incredible to see that kind of turnout. And weve seen that all over. Weve seen it in dayton. But theres a guy right here with operation hope el paso, hes been helping people with funds for in need and even just handing out these snow cones to Police Officers and everybody around here at the memorial. Its incredible, the outpouring. Ive been doing stories in el paso for years. These are the kindest people and seeing the same thing just now. When it comes to these Blood Donation centers, so many people have turned out. Theres been a blood shortage. So many people have turned out, they cant take anymore walkins. But this week, too many. Great report. Thank you so much. Hand it over to chris for cuomo prime time. Thank you very much, anderson. Its a beautiful story. Its a good problem to have. They have too many people trying to help. All right, here we are live from el paso. The shirt tells the story. El paso strong. This community is showing the best of this country in the worst of situations. When the president comes tomorrow, we all hope he can embrace the positive mood, the people coming together. And they want the same things that americans want in this country. Now we will leave to show this video. We have received brandnew video that could shed new light on the massacre in dayton. Its remarkable in that it shows such a nonchalance. We expect planning, nervousness. There are all types of things that were looking for before someone undertakes this type of gruesome event. Yet not here. The footage were going to show you in just a moment, will tell you a part of the story that sheds some light on the kind of people who do this. Here in el paso, the next 24 hours are going to tell us a lot about where this place goes and where this country goes in the near future. The president is coming tomorrow. Many here are on edge. The question is obvious, will the visit help or hurt. We have a congresswoman telling him to stay away. Shes refusing to be complicit. Were going to test her case tonight. We have a staunch trump loyalist. We have congressman sean duffy. How do we get past the polarization . Do republicans now believe theyre more open to change about gun laws, terrorism, well talk to him about that. And how do we fight the enemy within . We have to know more about who these White Nationalists think they are and how they think. Were going to take you inside the mind of a ragefilled white supremacist with someone who was one. Lets get together and get after it. Like i told you, we have brandnew video just into cnn tonight. It is exclusive footage of the dayton, ohio, gunman. In the two hours leading up to his murderous rampage. On this show, i dont talk about who these killers are. They are irrelevant in terms of why they did this and who helped them. I want you to see something tonight because its a window into what goes on through somebodys head who wants to do Something Like this. Of course the victims matter most. But the video could help us understand why this happened, how do we stop it. Security cameras show 24yearold murder in waiting, right, entering this bar with two people around 11 09 p. M. The two people appear to be his sister and a friend. He killed his sister and he shot this friend of his. The time stamp, 11 20. The clock is 11 minutes fast, according to the bar staff. You see the murderer there dressed like others, tshirt, shorts, sneakers. None of that Tactical Gear we were expecting. The vest and the mask that he put on, nowhere to be seen. Dayton police said theyve talked to the friend and said theres no information to suggest that he or the murderers sister were aware he had weapons. About an hour after he entered that bar, about 12 13 a. M. , the murderer is seen stopping by the entrance and speaking with staff at the door. Then he exits. A timeline that hasnt been reported before. Daytons police chief says the killer separated from the other two later in the evening. This is the video of him leaving alone. Amazing to think that he was thinking about doing these types of things and yet they had no indication and we have to believe thats true, because his sister paid with her life. And the friend was injured. Chief Richard Biehl says that there was a interesting dynamic here to get into. Its a communication between the killer and his companion after they separated but did not provide any other details. Thats going to be key in knowing where this guys head was. Nothing in the video indicates an altercation or any other event that could give a clue as to what prompted the rampage to come. 1 06 a. M. The first calls come into 911. The murderers sister killed along with eight others. Beard shot and wounded. The mass murderer killed by police. Now, that is going to help the police figure out a little bit more of what the motivation cycle there. Did he meet with somebody . Its very important especially with the push right now to recognize this for what it is. This was a domestic terror act. In fact you should take the word domestic out of it. Its terrorism just like when isis or any other extreme muslim group. Were going to be going to day dayton tomorrow im sorry. The president is going to dayton tomorrow and hes also coming to el paso. Its going to be difficult. People are in pain and many believe he is a part of that pain. Lets have that discussion. Texas congresswoman, democrat represents this district. Thank you very much for being here. Just to get the backstory right, you were invited to be part of the delegation that would go with the president here. Right. You said i want to talk to him first. Why . I think its important for us to have a dialogue about why this community is in so much pain. I dont know that he gets it, chris. His words have incredible power. You walk through all of these families, you walk through to this memorial, youll see people in pain. I talked to a veteran earlier to said im being made to seem as though im not american. The language that he uses to describe immigrants and hispanics dehumanizes us. And the idea hes only talking about those who come illegally and murderers rapists, not the good people, you dont buy it . No, chris. Anytime you talk about whole groups of people that way, you do it for a reason. When you strip people from their humanity, thats what makes that kind of violence in that walmart so easy for the killer. You know, ive been spending time with the families in the hospital. The minute they begin talking about the terror and what that that terrorist did, the way that he behaved in the most coldblooded fashion, its because he doesnt see mexicans, hispanics brown people. Thats what he was looking for. Thats why he came here. He doesnt see us as human. The president needs to take back his words. Lets go one step as a time. You wanted to have this call, they say, no, its too busy. You say im not going to be a part of this. Are you okay with that . Because the idea is, i cant be just about you, its got to be about your constituents. You believe youre doing the right thing by them . I do. I do. Were going to have 22 funerals, chris. 22 funerals in this community. And the words that have dehumanized us are still hanging over us. You need to hear this president apologize for the things hes said. And to acknowledge that they were wrong. And to take them back. If he doesnt . As far as im concerned, he should not be here until he does that. What if he says im here because you guys are in pain and im your president and im sorry this happened. What caused your pain . A crazy hateful person who ive already said is crazy is hateful. Absolutely. But the words that are used by the president drive much of that hate. Theres a reason hate crimes have increased under his tenure. You present a case, okay. But for the sake of not for the sake of argument. This isnt a game. This is not like some rhetorical flourish. In the interest of healing and getting to a better place, what if he comes tomorrow and doesnt say what you want him to hear. Weve never heard the president apologize for anything before. But lets say he does provide comfort and he says i will do better and i will have people be better, i know its going to sound hollow, but might it be a step in the right direction. Im open to any step. That doesnt mean that from my view, that he should come into a community where he painted a target on our back. He needs to peel the target off. We were told by Law Enforcement, be careful, be vigilant, there may be copy cat attacks. It is contagious. Yes. As the most powerful voice in the country, he needs to stand up and say i was wrong. Those words are wrong. And every one of these people is worthy and equal of our admiration and of grace and of our compassion. They are no different regardless of the color of their skin. And i was wrong to make them different. Thats what he needs to say. Anybody in the white house give you any indication that they understand the message . I dont know that they care. Thats a harsh thing to say. Thats in youre too busy to have a telephone conversation with a leader in the community who has asked for that conversation, he called other elected officials here, the media has reported it. So hes he had nothing on his schedule today. Ten minutes. Ten minutes. And im not saying that he had to talk to me. I wanted him to hear what is happening. If he were to walk through all of this pain, this sea of beautiful humanity that is suffering and is in pain, maybe it would open up the compassion in his heart and he needs to feel compassion. Listen, the the only thing that you have to hope here is that i dont know how you can in this situation. Ive never had a community ive been all over this country seeing this type of victimization. Not always white nationalism. But some type of mass shooting. Ive never seen people victimized in the way this community has been. Not acting like victims. I must have hugged 1,000 people here. And the consistent message is, theyre talking to us to give a message to him even though hes their president. And it seems odd like im in another country. They feel this dislocation. I always bet on the optimism of it. Youre no fool. You see what i do every night. If he can have these people feel like they belong, that might have an unintended positive affect that we could all use. We could use healing this in country. Its divided. Ive said before, we el paso is at the unfortunate intersection of the gun violence epidemic and the hate epidemic. Thats what happened here. It is the destiny of this place, though, right . You take the name el paso from the name of the passage, the passage north. This is a passageway that this whole country is going through. Theres so much pain involved in it for the people who are struggling to be here, struggling to remain, and struggling to establish themselves and establish that they belong. You got to hope for good things. You were right to make the argument and you know what, chris, i got to stand up for my community. 100 . I got to stand up for the people who are weeping and in pain and struggling. This beautiful community, everybody that i talked to, from the camera crews to the producers have expressed how incredible we are. We are. And so humble and so undeserving of this violence. But until weve realized the power of words and the harm that they can do, we wont have change. So if we are to have change, if we are to have healing, if we are going to use this as a turning point, and i hope to god its a turning point for all of us. He has to be a part of it. Especially coming from a president , the power of words. We lost tony morrison, and one of her many, many amazing thoughts was that language alone can protect us from scary places, language alone can be a meditation and certainly we need the power of the right words from the right words from the right people right now. Thank you for making a case for your people. I know they appreciate your presence so, so much. Thank you so much. Love your tshirt. Thank you. The money for these tshirts goes to help the victims families. Rose, my producer picked this up for me. And it couldnt be a more apt description of this place. One more thing, were having a rally tomorrow. As the president does his thing, the community is going to come together tomorrow, 12 30, Washington Park in order to denounce hate, reject bigotry and embrace one another. Push the positivity and good luck. Be well. These are tough conversations. But thats the reality and if you avoid the conversation, then how can you seek any progress. How can you hope anything can get better. And similarly we got to look at this White Nationalist violence in that way too. Were getting killed from within. We dont even know who these people are. We dont understand where they meet. Our investigators havent been given the resources to get into this. Theyre only dealing with islamist extremism. This is all new for them. Were going to talk with somebody, he knows the ideology because he believed in the ideology. 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Im running for president because unlike other candidates, i can go head to head with donald trump on the economy, and expose him fo what he is a fraud and a failure. And i. Was. Take shocked. Test. Right away, called my mom, called my sisters. Im from cameroon, congo, and. The bantu people. I had ivory coast, and ghana. Togo. I was grateful. I just felt more connected. To who i am. New features. Greater details. Richer stories. Get your dna kit today at ancestry. Com. After the attack behind me, authorized pointed to the el paso suspects ramblings that he was white supremacy. Were talking about racebased bigotry in the extreme and acted upon a furtherance of an agenda. What i want to focus on is talking to somebody who understands that mentality. Lets move up the discussion here and get with christian. Now its ive had you on before and unfortunately we need you now more than ever. Christian, you were in that world. You got out of it. The relevant part of the story is to understand whats going on in that community. Why are we seeing an uptick not just in murders, but activity, local organizing, online chat groups. What is going onto your understanding . I think we have a significant part of the American Population who is feeling like an equalization, its starting to feel like oppression to them. Theyre wrong. There is no great replacement. There is no White Genocide happening. These are all tropes that have been happening for centuries. And theyre keying in on these things now because of the words, you know, in part from a president who has a responsibility to measure his words in these cases. Because weve seen do you believe what he says resonates with them . Because his defenders will say, no, they hate him. They believe hes not for the White Community enough. Do you believe that . Listen, chris, im intimate with words like the ones that the president used. 30 years ago, i wrote lyrics that i put out into the world. I got out 23 years ago. In 2015, those lyrics resurfaced in a post of dylann roof. I understand the responsibility that we have for those words. We need action. An apology just isnt good enough. In terms of who is susceptible, your name is italian. You are not some waspy guy from the midwest. How did you get sucked in . I think everybody is susceptible because were living in a time of uncertainty right now and thats when extremism flourishes. I was a 17yearold kid when it recruited. I was lonely. There were all sorts of issues that detoured me onto the path of extremism. Were living in a time right now when theres a lot of uncertainty with our population and sometimes these narratives to people who feel desperate seem like a lottery ticket. When i see them the idea of the parents about the guy here at the walmart, they said we didnt know, christian. Do you believe that . I think that they probably didnt know. I think most people arent really up on what to look for. But its pretty simple. Its the same things that we notice when people get into gangs or drugs or end up in crime. Its the alienation. Its the same extremist behaviors that indicate that somebody might go toward extremism. Ideology is the final component that intercepts somebody that gives them the reason to go out and be angry towards other people. Right. Christian, i cut you off. Make that point about when they go all in like this. Obviously the concentration on effort right now is treating this as terrorism when they act on in furthering a political agenda. Its terrorism. Its trance national terrorism. Since the 80s, this has been connected to places like europe and eastern europe. Now the internet has changed the game. I really think that we need to start looking this from a Trans National perspective because weve got americans going over to places like the ukraine and russia to train in paramilitary camps and come back to charlottesville and take it out on activists there. This is a real problem. Christian, theres no 100 it is. We got to start taking it as one. And im going to be leaning on you going forward. And i appreciate you reflecting on what you did in the past. Youre making a positive difference. Thank you for that. Thanks, chris. Lets bounce back and forth between el paso and dayton. Daytons mayor had some pointed words for the president. Can he unite us in this time of grief . The question is, yes, but its about how genuine it is and sustained it is. Great starting point for a great debate, next. Old way to smooth, and theres new fructis sleek shot, our first inshower styler. Just mix the shot with shampoo, power up with lather. Five times smoother hair, half the time. Skip the flat iron. 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The democrat mayor in dayton says shes going to welcome the president , quote, in her official capacity as mayor, but she did have a caveat and here it is. Hes made this bed and hes got to lie in it. He hasnt his rhetoric has been painful for many in our community and i think that people should stand up and say theyre not happy that hes coming. All right. Lets get into the great debate. Pat, ill start with you. The idea of the president coming to either of these places and saying, hey, i didnt ever say anything like that. I shouldnt be blamed for any of this. If thats remotely in his mind set of what should be in the messaging, he shouldnt come, right . Im not hearing you, chris. Uhoh. Can you hear me . I can hear you. Good, the idea of the president and what his message i can hear you, i cant hear chris. Now i can. Were going to patrick, you got me . I got you now, chris. All right. Good. The idea of the president coming to either of these places tomorrow and saying i didnt do any of this. This isnt about me. Damn those democrats, damn the fake news. That cannot be in the message tomorrow, is that fair. I think thats fair. Whether President Trump says something that is provocative, he has held to a higher standard of president of the United States. Thats a fair thing to do. But i think we have to look at all of our leaders. The president says something, the physics of politics is one side says something, the other side reacts and all of this stuff is not helpful, chris. This is driving our nation to a place where we can no longer have a thoughtful discussion about this kind of tragedy and what leads to it. Its got to stop. Tomorrow is not the place for that to happen, and im one that the president can bring some healing with him. Its going to take two to tango, chris. This is sadly politics. All right. Let me play that metaphor that patrick has. Whos driving what situation . Its true. A lot of different factors drive it, but the president sitting behind the wheel and hes got his foot on the gas, so what do you expect tomorrow . I expect the president to be the president. Hes going to be the racist in chief. I want him to go to maralago, have a robe, drink a coke, put away your twitter and watch fox news. Because this is a president who couldnt be bothered on sunday as a nation was mourning two marks to actually go to el paso, to go to dayton. What did he do . He golfed. The next day on monday, he had one job, read the teleprompter. He messed it up. He couldnt even say the city properly. Maybe hell land in toledo and not dayton. I want him to bring a 470,000 check, because he owe it is community money, and i want him to say, guess what, theres a gun control bill, i want to tell senator Mitch Mcconnell to get that bill in senate and i want to pressure these republicans to pass this background check. And the third thing i would do is apologize to that community. Im sorry i failed you. I promoted white supremacist talking points. Forgive me. Im hear, im trying to be a good president now. How can i help you . I would like an apology. Were never going to get it. Patrick, is there anything like those three points you think well hear . Thats Wishful Thinking on his part. Thats not going to happen. What i tried to say in my opening remarks to you, chris, i think theres plenty of anger and rhetoric, soaring rhetoric to go around here. The president s job is to go there tomorrow to reach out to the people who want to talk to him. If people in those places dont want to see the president , they want to protest, thats up to them. But the president will go there tomorrow, i think, to at least try to engage, talk to families, survivors, first responders, thats his job. Lets see how president ial the president acts tomorrow. He deserves an opportunity to do that. We should expect nothing less. Patrick, heres the problem, i totally agree with the idea of everybody doing their best. But you seem to be ignoring his outsized role in creating the negativity and toxicity in this dynamic. It wasnt democrats saying bad things about latinos and then him ramping it up, patrick. I dont know why youre shaking your head. I could give you 15 minutes of comments from him where the people in this community have remembered every damn one of them. And for some reason, they took them all personally and they didnt see it as a battle between left and right. They saw it as their president looking at them and saying youre a brown menace and we should be afraid of you, we should take your kids and put them in cages and scare you back home. And hopefully you wont come back when you see the big wall. Thats the check his mouth has written. What does he do when he gets here . Ignore it . Listen, you and i have had this conversation before. There are many things that donald trump says that are indefensible from my perspective. Weve talked about other things here. Some of what the president says, i wish he didnt say. I wish he didnt say it in the way he says it. Theres plenty of rhetoric coming from the other side as well. And im sorry, i think that whats good for the goose is good for the gander here. Aware hearing democrats talking about again, the politics of this is disgraceful. We got direct mail pieces going out and raising money for kamala harris, beto orourke comparing the president to nazi germany. None of this is helping the situation chris. Chris, may i . The politics part of this i hear you, patrick. Is donald trump going to talk to the tomorrow is a chance. Im going to give you the final word. Dont forget the other two points, he said, there is a gun control bill on there thats pretty reasonable and a lot a few are starting to bubble up and saying, were not against this. The president has said hes for much of whats in that bill before and theres no reason not to treat these extremists as terrorists. Three quick points. Im coming there, im going to pass gun control. Im coming there and pass gun control. Number two, i apologize for mainstreaming white supremacist talking points. Im going to tackle the Terror Threat in america. Forgive me, forgive me for being a racist. Forgive me for calling you invaders, rapists. And im going to be your president and im going to fight for you and im going try my best to be less racist because lets be honest, thats the feature, not the book. Thank you for your take. Patrick, i appreciate you coming on the show and making the case. All three of us, lets hope were pleasantly surprised tomorrow. Whats the big deal now . All right. What happens next . Why would any of you believe that anything can be better than this last few days if nobody does anything any different. Will there be change . Were going to bring in a republican, because, remember, look, i dont care what kind of numbers you have in congress, as long as you have that filibuster in the senate, you need both sides. We have sean duffy from wisconsin. What does he think the future holds, next . Amazing, honey. horn tooting who can say why your heart sighs as your love flies kraft. For the win win. As your love flies what sore muscles . What with advpounding head . Advil is. Relief thats fast. Strength that lasts. Youll ask. What pain . With advil. All right. So, look, we know that people are on edge here and theres very raw and real emotion here and in dayton and rightly so. Should the president come or not . Look, hes coming. And you got to hope that he says the right things and he doesnt say the wrong things. Theres a bigger concern. Because this cant be about the president. It has to be about congress and what can get done. Lets get perspective from someone who supports the president , on the right side of the aisle. Congressman sean duffy. Thank you for being on the show. Thanks for having me on. Two things, one, when an organization or when an individual acts as an extinction of an organization through violence to advance a political agenda like we saw at this walmart, maybe like we saw in dayton, that should be terrorism and you should expand the law and the resources to root out these political extremists and haters wherever they live, wherever they are, whatever their affiliated with and punish them the way you would an islamic extremist. Agree. Its a great point. I think its important that we look at this holistically. We have a shooter going after hispanics. My wife is hispanic. I have hispanic children. This is horrible stuff. He was also anticorporation, and an environmentalist. And in dayton you had a socialist whos a supporter of democrats and antifa. We have to get into whats inspiring to take up arms and kill their neighbors. And part of it is a gun conversation, but we have a Mental Health crisis in america and we dont have enough treatment this is not Mental Health. If you have a problem this guy wasnt crazy. I think he was. Did you read his manifesto. Hold on a second. Im just using this was a bad guy. Evil is not sickness. You and i both know this. Dont hide behind the mentally ill. This is about hate and having the resources to root it out and the will to punish it, the same way you wouldnt say a muslim is a mentally ill person if they had a terrorist attack here. You would say theyre a bad immune islamic extremist and you would want them punished. I agree with you on that front. If we have a group of people who are using violence to perpetuate an ideology, we should call them terrorists, we should get the resources to the fbi and our Law Enforcement officials and we should go after them. I agree with that. My point was larger in the sense that i do think you have great Mental Illness in the country. And a lot of these people are sick. We have to look at why are we desensitized to all of this violence. And i think guns are part of the conversation. We have to look at the billions of dollars that hollywood makes off of violent movies and video games you can movies has you think the movies and video games have as much to do with this problem as the access to weapons do . The only metric we have that distinguishes us from other cultures is how many guns we have. 120 is the ratio. They all have video games. They all have violent movies. Its the guns. What i also see is if its not guns, its knives, its pressure cookers, its planes, its fertilizer, its trucks. People who are sick and want to kill its most often guns. I think what i know, but its most often guns and im a gun owner. Its not about antigun. Its about being proreasonable. And i think you and i can agree to say lets work on Mental Health. Lets look at firearms and say, how do we have red flag laws, how do we have appropriate background checks to make sure that people like the shooter in el paso and dayton cant get guns and protect lawabiding citizens. I think thats possible. But we cant go into partisan rhetoric. Its the shooter on a baseball field and a Bernie Sanders supporter who shot steve scalise. Thats the hacksmanship that divides us. Whats a holistic approach. If we do that, i think both sides can see throw the partisan cloud and come to a resolution that can stop these killings i hear you, congressman, and i like the vibe. I like the vibe. Im not saying its the only answer. I think theyre common sense things and the only outlying metric is the guns. When were not going to take that with us when we go to range. Thats all im saying. Start small. You guys dont deal with big things well. If you dont you can admit we have guns since our founding and weve had a semiautomatic weapons since the 50s and these things werent happening. What has changed in the last 20 years that has caused this problem in our country of mass killings. Something is going on in our culture and thats a hard conversation. And i dont know what the answer is. If we dont have that conversation, i think youre trying to deal with a symptom and were not dealing with the root cause of why people are so angry. Young men are so angry in america where they will pick up a gun and kill people. We have to find the answer to that. Its got to be holistic. If we look at one point, my constituents, they love their guns, they hate what happened in el paso. They hate what happened in dayton. Their hearts break and they want us to find a holistic solution. If its holistic, what you can do is saying were not just going after guns, were going after this epidemic and its going to be across the board. Thats how you get people to buy into that solution. Im fine with that. Im fine with that. Im fine with that because im not left or right. Im about reasonable. Im saying that nothing is happening. I encourage this conversation. You want to bring up stuff on the floor, you want me to front run it im there. You get cosponsors, youll get even more time. I believe its past time. Our kids are growing up, sean, were putting them in a world where theres a good chance that something bad will happen to them as something good. And thats crazy. I appreciate you having this conversation especially during a tough time. Thank you, chris. Have a good night. Always. Be well. This is going to happen. I believe you got to provoke these conversations. I just do. You got to bring people out of their silos. Tough look at the facts. This left right thing. I never thought i would see politicians saying which extremists belong to them. You also have to look at the antifa. The president is coming tomorrow. 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He borrowed billions donald trump failed as a businessman. And left a trail of bankruptcy and broken promises. He hasnt changed. I started a tiny investment business, and over 27 years, grew it successfully to 36 billion dollars. Im tom steyer and i approve this message. Im running for president because unlike other candidates, i can go head to head with donald trump on the economy, and expose him fo what he is a fraud and a failure. All right. Lets try something tonight. On the show we try not to be glib and i certainly dont give advice, let alone to a president. But tomorrow matters too much not to all try our best to move forward together. So here are some suggestions from being on the ground here and understanding the situation. If youre going to come tomorrow, mr. President , you should apologize for this. Theyre bringing drugs. Theyre bringing crime. Theyre rapists. You have many criminals in that caravan. Because you look at whats marching up, thats an invasion. Thats not thats an invasion. They got a lot of rough people in those caravans, they are not angels, they are not. Now, heres why, two reasons. One, d. H. S. , cbp and even you now recognize that that was a false brown menace depiction. You know theyre mostly kids and the people who are with them. You know that it wasnt some, you know, demon hoard coming here. It wasnt an invasion. And two, they heard you and it hurt, and they knew you were demonizing them as a demagogue. The good news is there is a chance for healing for two reasons also. One, you crack the door open to the possibility of change when you said this. In one voice our nation must condemn racism, bigotry, and white supremacy. Now, heres the second reason that i can explain to you maybe better than anybody else in my position. These people here are very similar to the people where you and i grew up in queens. They are ethnics who are long on pride and feel very, very deeply. Ive never had people in a victimized community in the way it happened here be so intent on reaching out and being hospitable and literally putting their arms around. You remember in our neighborhood when people used to paint rocks and put religious icons on them and messages around the holidays . Look what one of the women here gave me. She saw me on tv. She thought that we could use some help. This was heavy. She knew people were lost at walmart. She painted our lady of guadalupe on a rock and came here and gave it to me. This is who these people are. But the same way, just like where we came up, mr. President , when they hurt, it doesnt just go away. Respect is everything. And theyre savvy. Do not confuse a lack of formal education and lack of sophistication for not being smart. They know what they heard. They know how they feel and many believe you dont care about them. Just 19 hours after you made the call to come together and speak as one, you went back to petty protection for yourself. Useless tweets about your feelings, your feelings. When you need to be about their feelings. Do not call yourself least racist. Say that you will go after racists, and make White Nationalists and any extremist from any group anywhere on this spectrum who uses violence for their agenda that they are terrorists and youll treat them like that. Your enablers have given cover to white big otzelberger by saying the left is just as bad. You know this isnt a booth sides situation. There is no advantage to giving koifr to the guy who did this. Any group that motivates a political agenda through violence commits terrorism. But dont forget to call out this white bigot who did this because thats what happened in this community. And they need to hear that you reject him specifically just as you have talked about them specifically and everyone else who feels your wrath. 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