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Thats a lot of mouths to feed. Some people are rationing and not eating as much as home. Are you doing that . We are doing also. We organize the menus and you know, kind of with this all of the time. Reporter still, despite his cut in pay he thinks its a mistake for neighboring georgia to start reopening businesses later this week to get the economy going again. Its too soon. Stay at home at the moment, keep the distance. Reporter randi kaye, cnn, hialeah gardens, florida. A lot of good groups doing food banks and food delivery. The news continues. I want to head over to chris cuomo for cuomo primetime. Chris . Thank you, my friend. I am chris cuomo and welcome, everybody, to prime time. I know there are a lot of political headlines and well touch on them, but we cant let gotchas and the latest examples of trump being trump distract us from what is definitely the elephant in the room. We are still not on the same page. States and the federal government. One plan, obviously will be regional and subjective, but one mindset about how to open places safely. Tonight, Governor Cuomo of new york. Now he just met with the president yesterday pushing for more testing to get on the same page. He said they had a good meeting. The president said they had a good meeting, but why . Is the state ready now to reopen the way the president wants to . Were going to hear from the governor. If not, then how is it a good meeting . Together as ever as one cant just be words. It has to be intentions and actions that get us to a safer place. So what do you say . Lets get at it. Now, look, you cant ignore the president trying to change the facts. We have to be facts first. The president doesnt like that the head of the cdc and by the way, most experts in the area of coronavirus and pandemic control all say the same thing. The fall could be a real problem. Coronavirus is likely to return. It will likely be in combination with flu season. Thats very difficult. Why fight that fact . Why not just prepare for what could happen . No. Trump decides to fight reality and deny that it will be anything like what we just experienced, but thats not the measure whether its like what we just lived through. If its anything close to that as has happened in the past with other viruses it may put us right back in hiding with the same kinds of pressures if we dont prepare. The cdc comes up and the president said cnn lied, and first of all, cnn didnt do the interview, the Washington Post did, and it was written by the Washington Post. Accurately written by the Washington Post. Dr. Fauci, dr. Anthony fauci gets up there and says a likely second wave is a real probability that we have to deal with. Now the question is whats going to happen to them . Are they going to suffer the fate of dr. Rick bright, the head of barda, the Agency Working on a vaccine for the federal government. Thats what bright is doing, working on the thing we all need most. His problem, hes also been saying stuff that doesnt go with what the president s been saying, specifically the president s longtouted miracle cure, hydroxychloroquine. I know youre not hearing about it much anymore. Dr. Bright pushed back and said i dont Want Congress money to be spent on this drug that doesnt have research on it. I want to spend it on things that might be making a difference here. Now he says he lost his job over it and now the others have to pay a price for telling the truth. Heres the doctors, quote, dr. Bright, sidelining me in the middle of this pandemic and placing politics and cronyism ahead of science puts lives at risk. Science must always trump politics. The president s response. Who . Ive never heard of him. You just mentioned the name. Ive never heard of him. When did this happen . This happened today. If the guy was pushed out of a job, maybe he was. Maybe he wasnt. Id have to hear the other side. I dont know who that is. First of all, thats pretty scary. The president doesnt know the lead person who is working on the vaccine at barda, the agency thats focusing on this . Really . And maybe he was pushed out of a job, thats an equal concern, maybe he was, maybe he wasnt. After the reasoning that the doctor gave, is that something for the president to be ambivalent about like he wouldnt have some role in that . He wouldnt have some responsibility . Also surprising, on a totally different level, because you have to be fair here, was the president all of a sudden striking a different posture about his state reopening as quickly as possible, specifically georgia. The governor there, a republican seems to want to be appeasing this president more than making common sense for his own state, the president says not so fast. I told the governor of georgia, brian kemp that i disagree strongly with his decision to open certain facilities which are in violation of the phase one guidelines for the incredible people of georgia is just too soon. I think its too soon. Good for him. Good for him, but very confusing for us. Why . Because if he thinks its too soon because georgia isnt meeting the criteria for reopening then why would he be pushing states that have told him many times we cant reopen safely. We wont have the testing. If he sees it in georgia now all of a sudden why is he pushing other states to liberate, telling people to liberate your state when they could get the same analysis from him. Theyre not ready either. Why push them . Lets bring in the governor of new york to talk about this where he sees the state of play. He just met with the president. Its good to have you, mr. Governor. Thank you for joining us. Good to be with you, little brother. Always a pleasure. So help me with this, honestly. You go down there. You meet with the president , you come out and he says good meeting and you say good meeting. Hes going to help you double testing from 20,000 people in new york a day to 40,000, then they say oh, good, so youre ready to reopen . Oh, no, were not ready to reopen. We have a lot longer to go, then how is it a good meeting . You keep talking to the federal government about what you need it reopen. You keep saying you have good meetings, so is he and then you dont have what you need to reopen. How is this progress . Nice to be with you again. Glad youre feeling better. Glad christine is feeling better. It is a common frustration, governor. Its a common frustration. I dont know how common it is and i dont know that your assertion is factual and accurate. I dont keep meeting with the federal government and i dont keep meeting with the president. We had one meeting, and it was a good meeting and it was a productive meeting. The testing, we have been going back and forth on who is supposed to do what on testing and the federal government starts by saying we dont do testing. Its up to the states. The states say we need federal help and we were getting nowhere so i wanted to go and i wanted to sit down at the table and actually have the conversation and talk about testing and here are the different functions and who will do what . The president s state that the state should take the lead on testing is right. I have 300 labs in my state, okay . I regulate those labs and theyre basically private labs, i should determine how many tests we need and where we can do them, et cetera, but the labs have to get the supplies from these National Manufacturing companies that they bought the machines from and each machine has its own chemicals and its own testing kit, et cetera. Those National Manufacturers say they cant get enough test kits so my labs dont have the supplies. That is a job that the federal government should do. We talked about governor larry hogan of maryland, and went to south korea and he got test kits, but its not right for governors to now worry about an International Supply chain, right . We went through that with ppe. Let the federal government take that piece and thats what we agreed to, but testing is only one piece, chris. You dont reopen just because you have testing. You reopen, first of all, when the numbers stabilize. New york was still coming down the curve, but were not down and youre not going to reopen until that number is at a lower, lower point and then you test to make sure youre still at that point and calibrate where you are. All right. Understand . One step sideways. Yes. One step sideways and then i want to go to when you reopen and what the right measure is. Just to be very clear. Stepping sideways. Yes. Lateral step. Lateral move. You met with the president. You have spoken to the president and his people before now about testing, yes . That is a true statement. So that was not the first real meeting. Youve talked plenty with the federal government about this, you just kind of keep running circles around each other about having the conversation about who does it and you saying the same things to them and them saying the same things back and you still remain in a state of gradual movement, but not where you need to be. Is that a Fair Assessment . Well, to say that i had phone conversations with them is not to say i met with them. You said i met with them a number of times. I didnt meet with them a number of times. Semantics. Whats a phone call . I did have phone calls and those are phone calls. Those are conversations, theyre not meetings. Whats the difference . And look, what were trying to do, one is a meeting and one is a call. Thats semantics. We had things done before. True. What were trying to do has never been done before. New york state today does more tests than any state in the country. New york state today does more tests per capita than any country on the globe, all right . So weve been very aggressive and very good at ramping up this testing. Weve done over 500,000 tests in a month. More than anyone else, but 500,000 tests as big as that is, sounds like a big number, not when youre talking about a population of 19 million and a workforce of 9 million. 500,000 a month, that means a million in two months and 1. 5 in three months. Its not enough. We want to double that rate of testing which is already the highest in the country and the highest on the globe, per capita. To do that, the federal government has to work to get that supply chain to the National Manufacturers so they can provide the equipment, the reagents to my labs. Just to give you an idea of what the 40,000 tests are. Thats every machine that we have in the state of new york running seven days a week, 24 hours a day. So you cant have a higher number of Production Capacity in the state than that. And thats my point, that listen, you definitely deserve your respect for doing as much as you can with your capacity, but you are not getting what you immediate to get your capacity where you immediate it to be. I must have heard you say on just this television show, let alone your press briefings several times, hey, man, federal governments has to figure out how to get more of this done. They should be talking to the manufacturers. New york cant make it. You dont have the cash to front these companies. States dont have that kind of budget and even big new york and big california. They cant afford it. The federal government would have to do it. You keep saying it, nothing happens. One company, they tell us, is making swabs in the United States of america. The home of rosie the riveter, made b24s during world war ii and now we cant make cotton swabs. Why . Look, i dont want to argue that point with you because youre right. One of the lessons we learned here from the get go, by the way, whether it was gowns, masks, gloves. Right. Ventilators, why does it all come back to china . Why is everything made in china . I mean, it was just bizarre when you think about it and thats what trump said, by the way. Thats what makes America Great again is all about. Remember him saying during the campaign. Its all got to come back from china and they chased him about his ties and where his stuff was made and because the trade deals stink and ill change all of it and this is a beautiful opportunity and he hasnt done any of that. Well, we have to do that and look, that was a wakeup call for everyone. I understand how the International Economy works and why manufacturing left especially like a mask or a gown or a glove, but theres now a National Security issue and you have to be able to get this material and thats one of the lessons. We have to make all of that here so we control the supply chain and were now learning it on this testing side where youre trying to go 50 times your current Testing Capacity, right . And all of a sudden reagents and chemicals and whether china will release them or not, becomes relevant, but just so were clear, before you get to testing, the number of cases and hospitalizations has to come down because we are only on the downside of the curve. Its not low enough to even talk about reopening and then if any of these theories are true that you could see a low ad in the summer but a riseup in the fall, i mean yeah. Thats, you know, it just changes your whole calculus, right . Do you think thats a speculation like a maybe or possibly or are your projections and experts telling you by the way, from the federal level, you better get ready for that because its coming . Well, look, i dont think the cdc gets up and says we have to worry about the fall. I dont think dr. Fauci gets up and says we have to worry about the fall. I dont think dr. Birx gets up and says we have to worry about the fall unless we have to worry about the fall. The president wants to be optimistic and wants to be positive and wants to see those markets come back and you listen to the medical experts who are just giving you facts and theyre all saying it could come back in the fall. They all are saying it could be coincident with the flu which is a real problem. Right. Because that now, all of the Testing Capacity were developing were putting all that testing to covid, right . The testing was normally hiv tests, large number, about 2. 4 million and the flu. If you have the testing machines doing covid, do you have enough machines to do covid and flu come the fall and thats another problem were going have to deal with. Right. 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Yeah. Ive seen the signs myself. The cure is worse than the disease except its not, right . Here the disease can kill you. So the cure is not worse than the disease because the disease can kill you, and there is nothing worse than death. Look, i get the frustration that people feel. They dont have a paycheck, and the bills still keep coming, right . It turns out that the bill collector is an essential worker so those bills keep coming. You dont have a paycheck. Thats real stress. You dont even know if you have a job, you dont even know if your business is going to return. Youre in the house which sounds very romantic with the family and that lasts for about seven days, right . And then everybodys stressed, cabin fever. So i get the frustration and the anxiety and everybodys feeling it. I feel it personally, i feel it as governor, but what is the flipside . The flipside is okay, so i want to go out. I want to do what i want to do and we have 15,000 people who have died already in this state. The only way we brought down the virus spread was by doing what were doing, and i just want to abort that because i think i have pressure, and i have to get out of the house. Yeah, but the flipside is you can infect yourself. Okay. Do what you want with your own life. True. You can infect someone else and you could kill someone, literally kill someone. So the cure is not worse than the disease because the disease can kill you, and thats what people have to remember. But they dont but you do have a lot of People Freedom i dont want to give you the freedom point because i dont buy that. Youre hurting my freedoms and we need to liberate. I dont know why the president said that, and i dont want to hear you say that, go liberate your own region, but heres their argument, yes, there is a chance i could die. There is a chance i could kill somebody else, but it is so small and it is more than likely that im going to get crushed economically. Ive burned through my savings. Its going to kill my business, i cant take it anymore so death of the business, economic death is much more likely than real death, so lighten up, governor. Yeah. Except that real death is real, right . Economic death is not death. Its economics, and youre dead, im dead. They dont come back up there. Is no lazarus here. The economy, we can figure out, right . We have federal legislation. We have state legislation and we can figure out the economy. Look, the old italians used to say, as long as you have your health, Everything Else is second and thats true. So death is still the ultimate problem in life that we cant fix. Anything else we can fix. But you do see the mission creed, dont you . The different states and the timing. Yeah, the president was banging on those governors in the red states and it was effective and i thought it was interesting what he said about georgia. That theyre doing it too quickly. Thats so out of sorts for him. Hes been saying exactly the opposite as we just mentioned. Hes telling people to liberate their states. You see state after state is planning to find a way to reopen. How long can you fore bear the political pressure of people saying, gov, this is hurting us. This is hurting us. The cases arent where you want them to be, but theyre a hell of a lot better than they were three weeks ago, man. Dont let perfection be the problem. Yeah. Georgia put the president in a box, and i think the president was right, frankly. Georgia violated the cdc guidelines. They have theoretical cdc guidelines. Georgia violated the cdc guidelines. How can you do these activities and still socially distance . How can you run a Tattoo Parlor and socially distance, right . You have to be six feet away. Thats a long tattoo needle and you need really good aim to do that tattoo, you know . So you really cant do those jobs and socially distance, so i think georgia put everyone in a box, but im not going to make this decision on politics or political pressure. Ive been through a lot of political pressure, and im not going to make a bad decision because of political pressure, and im getting a lot of the local officials who feel the pressure more than i do, frankly, one way or the other, but i say to them because i talk to them all day long. I say, look, the truth helps you here. The state law governs, so even if a locality does something that contradicts the state law the local action is void. Right. Its void, so i say tell the truth. Which is not up to you and blame me. I dont have a problem with that, and im not going to cave to the political pressure and see people die. Im not going to do that. Youre making a neat argument also, though, which is interesting on the federal level. You and larry hogan, the governor of maryland, hes the head of the National Governors association. You guys wrote a letter and youre the vice chair there saying you are not giving any money to the governments. Youre giving it to programs and youre giving it to specific things and thats good, but youre not giving it to us so we cant deal with our operating deficits. Mitch mcconnell says hey, go broke then, if you dont know how to run your government. Im not giving you a bailout. Youre not getting more federal money. State governments, local governments, go bankrupt, then. Yeah. One of the dumbest statements of all time. Mitch mcconnell, theyre talking about bringing back the economy and then he says states should declare bankruptcy. How does that help the national cheat . States should declare bankruptcy and he then says this is a bailout to the blue states which is a really offensive statement. What hes saying is the blue states are the states that have the coronavirus problem. Why . Because the coronavirus problem is basically a function of density, and urban areas have more density, and those are cities and cities are blue. They are democrats. So why should he bail out the blue areas. I mean, it really is offensive. You talk about one issue where you think you can get past partisanship and pettiness and now you talk about helping communities where people are dying and you say they are blue states . No. The coronavirus attacks republicans and it attacks democrats. It doesnt ask someone are you a republican or are you a democrat, and normally in emergencies, chris, this is the one time when you saw the federal government put the politics aside. A state has a hurricane and the state had a flood and they got federal funding because you didnt play politics with that. Mcconnell is the exact opposite and thats why i said all along they should have insisted that the state funding be in this bill and when they signed this bill, they passed this bill which is small business. They took care of airlines and they took care of all these industries which is fine. Right. You dont do state governments and if you dont do state and local government, by the way, thats police. Thats fire, thats teachers, thats schools. Youre not going to fund those areas and youre not going to fund the states which are the governors who are doing all of the reopening. I mean right. Its so politically repugnant. How am i supposed to reopen if you want me to declare bankruptcy . I mean, it makes no sense on any level, and the state funding should have been here and the democrats are to blame for that also, chris. Right. And congress because youve been talking how much youve been talking to your own constituency and they have to fight for the states to get the money and were not hearing them pipe up either saying that the states should get the money. Good for you for blaming both of them for not once putting the money in your pocket that you say you need. Its not my pocket. Its not my pocket. Police, fire, teachers, schools, right . Yes. Its not you personally because god forbid you have money to buy gas when were out on the boat. God forbid. I get it youre the one who sews his pockets closed and youll talk about me . Youre tight as two counts of paint. Everybody says it, your hands are too big too reach into your pocket. Thats the word on the street. Okay. Okay. I know you dont want to do that. Listen, i grew up with a guy who when someone showed up to the house, a suitor to spend time with any of my sisters would fly out of bushes like a puma, chase them back into cars and literally come to the door and say, turn around and walk away while you can. In contrast, i see a man on television saying, we always like the boyfriend. The boyfriend is always a good thing. We embrace the boyfriend. When did you get this epiphany and why didnt you pass it along to me instead of having me to go with the shotgun and shovel route with bella which creates nothing, but agita in my house . That doesnt work. Plan b. Plan b is you say you like the boyfriend. See, if you say you dont like the boyfriend theres some weird reverse psychology where now they have to prove you wrong so they have to like the boyfriend more. So the only answer is i like the boyfriend. The dog doesnt like the boyfriend and i dont know what the dog senses that he doesnt like the boyfriend. You cant say anything other than you like the boyfriend otherwise they do the exact opposite of what you say. Ive learned it the hard way, but i got it. I pass it on to you, my brother. How did you get so warm and cuddly all of a sudden . Youve become a real feely guy, you know that . Youve become very sensitive, very motive as pop used to say. You like to emote all of a sudden. What has softened you up, gov, id like to know because i dont remember you that way. Maybe its the coronavirus, but i dont remember you this way so what happened . [ laughter ] yeah. Its your memory. Its your memory. I think the coronavirus has perverted your memory. Not only do you come out frail, but your memory has suffered. Maybe when you get out of the basement and christina lets you out of the basement maybe iryour memory will come back. I am out of the basement and this is where the shot is set up now. The concern as with all families as with all families as andrew will quickly tell you, the virus worked through the family. It was me, and christina and now mario has the same symptoms she had and hes got the coronavirus and its working its way through and theyre doing fine, and thanks for caring about my family and about me and thank you for fighting for the people in your state. I appreciate it. Thanks. Hes going to be okay. Thank you very much. Yes, sir. I appreciate it, doctor. Dr. Sensitivo. Thats what they call him now. Thats me. Dont forget it. Would you, please . When i get the last word the interview is supposed to be over. Why do you let him keep talking . Im governing and youre not okay. All right. Is he gone now . Dr. Sensitivo, there you go. All right. Good, kill the mike. It took three tries. Its amazing the pull he has over my own team. So why was the doctor in charge of a government Agency Working on a covid vaccine, and then suddenly dismissed from his post . 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Heres the question, what do we need most to get past coronavirus . Answer the ultimate game changer in this will be a vaccine. All right. Dr. Anthony fauci, one of the most credible people in the country, but common sense tells you the same thing. We need the prophylactic, and who would push out the guy that makes the vaccine. The guy in charging of finding the vaccine . Andy, good to see you. Hope youre healthy. Thank you, chris. Im glad youre back in the chair. Here in the basement or anywhere else, america feels you in that chair to feel normal. Thanks for being back. Well, if my extreme abnormality makes everybody feel more comfortable baseline then its all worth it. Let me ask you something. Political intrigue aside, okay . Just the timing, tell me about b arda, this agency, and how important it is, and how if this is the guy, dr. Bright, who was working on the vaccine, how much does that make him the man . Are there ten agencies working on that vaccine. Is that not a big deal, is the agency secondary or is he a main player . I think this is like the patriots being down two touchdowns in the Fourth Quarter in an Elimination Game and deciding to pull tom brady. Dr. Bright is a guy who has been working for this moment the entire career. Hes the guy thats been studying Infectious Diseases and vaccines for his entire life and entire career. I cant tell you if hes the best or the second or the third or the fourth. It doesnt matter. I dont understand why youd pull him off the field right now when you need every capable mind and this is something that this guy has been preparing for this moment forever and i dont understand why we pulled him off the field. Weve got to change that. Well, you do understand, of course, because thats what happens when you contradict trump. Of course, the president said i dont know the guy. Which i dont know whats scarier, by the way. Him owning, i dont know what he said about hydrochloroquine so i got rid of it, him saying i dont know who the guy is who is one of the main people working on a vaccine. I dont know what should be more troubling to the audience. They can decide, but in terms of what this means now so getting a vaccine, they say takes a year, year and a half. What does it do to the process if you lose someone at the head of it. Tom brady and i guess now the buccaneers and what it would mean to take him out of the mix and how does it slow us down . Look, i mean, let me start with this. The guy you had on before me, i think said pretty much the words, you want to criticize me, criticize me, i want to do the right thing. If there was one thing we could wish for is that the president would take that attitude so that people could argue about and get to the best answer. Weve got dozens and dozens of vaccine trials. Weve got lots and lots of possibilities, and i think its too early for us to be predicting what we whats going to happen with a vaccine. In todays day and age, whatever you want to believe you can confirm on the internet. If you want to believe that were six months away, you can find articles to support that. If you want to believe that were four years away, you can find articles to support that. If were 18 months away we just dont know and thats why we need the really smart people and barda is the agency that is focused on response to infectious outbreaks. Thats all they do. They literally wait around for this moment, the agency he runs and this is what they do. They figure it out and because we dont know we want the smartest people to figure it out. Heres the other thing i wanted to discuss from your perspective. You mentioned captain sensitive a second ago, my big brother. So he says that he had a great meeting at the white house. By the way, i wont put this on your lap, but phone calls count in terms of meetings. Okay . Theyve talked a lot, the white house, the federal government and the state of new york everybody says it all of the time and they all count so its not just one meeting, but they keep winding up in the same place, i think, andy, the idea of are we on the same page, do they have a plan . They say they have good meetings and they say they have progress and they dont have a plan. Theyre not on the same page and they dont know how to get to ppe and they dont know how to get the testing scaled up, and how is this progress . Well, look, first of all, he cant say anything else because i think he knows enough i mean, hes got eq, in addition to iq, to know that theres no benefit and no margin in insulting the president. Theres all kinds of margin in praising the president. Secondly, you know, i do think if were where hes trying to be nonpartisan about this, and i think on his good days, trump wants to support he doesnt want people to die. I dont believe that the president wants people to die, but if things get in the way of the way he looks thats when things get crossed up. So the governors are having to play, i think a pretty veiled game of how to do this, how to do the right thing without being critical. I worked for president obama. I dont recall people being afraid to be critical of president obama for almost anything, and you know, that be that as it may, whether it was good or bad, it allowed us to fundamentally understand what was going, what was wrong, and what was right and worked. No president feels its fair, but in this particular case it is so fragile that its very hard for a state to get through this without constantly going back for more. Right. Look, weve certainly seen that andy and that is the right perspective and i know you get that because you were doing that job on the federal level and working with the states and i can hear the president s supporters right now saying after they heard you say that, andy, remember obama and people being afraid and yeah, its because he was weak and trump was strong and lets see where the strength gets us because we have obvious needs that Everybody Knows about and reopening without getting testing and treatment and tracing of people right will be a big problem. So lets see where the strength gets us or perceived strength. Andy slavit, you are strong for sure. Thank you for joining me. Thank you, chris. If you look at the president s message, consistently, hes saying reopen. Weve got to reopen. The states that are slow on it in his estimation, he tells the people you must liberate your state. 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The same president , who was telling people to liberate states that are closed, which is just dead wrong. Actually, spoke the truth that georgia may be doing too much, too soon. Which is really speaking truth about a situation the way we havent heard him done before. Now, how does this play in georgia . Lori henry is the mayor of roswell, georgia. She supports nowgovernor kemp. And she joins us now, on primetime. Mayor, thank you. Thank you for having me. Its great to have you. I wish you well down there. I hope things go well when you guys reopen. But let me put you in a very enviable position. What do you say to the president of the United States . He says you guys are doing too much, too soon, and he is saying this because he is afraid of people losing their lives. Your response . I agree. You agree . You think youre doing too much, too soon . Yes, i do. Now, how do you square that with supporting the governor . My number one priority, as the mayor of roswell, georgia, is health, safety, and welfare of our citizens. I think this is too early. I think its too soon. I understand that we have two very important issues here with this pandemic. One is health. The other one is the economy. And i, as the mayor of roswell, cannot turn my back on the health issues. I realize the economy issues are very important. And the gravity of those is very strong. However, i cant sleep at night, unless i know that i am doing everything to protect the health, safety, and welfare of my citizens. And that is my intention. So i have to live with the governors orders. I have been supportive of the governor. My executive orders, here in roswell, have been in line with his. I have supported them. But, at this point in time, he has not given me a chance. We have to we cannot be more stringent or less strict than his orders. So what we are doing is strongly encouraging people to stay safe, healthy, and take care of themselves and their families. Thats what we need to do here, and that is my message. Understood. Did you reach out to the governor . And tell him that you think hes making a mistake . I have not reached out to the governor and, frankly, what i have been doing right now is reacting to the governors executive orders. We have one that deals with several of the businesses that hes opened. Weve got another one were anticipating that will be coming, that deals with restaurants. And what were doing, as a city, our staff, as well as i, am looking at everything that hes requiring. How do we deal with that . How do we pivot with that information . And how do we convey that to our citizens and our businesses . Because, frankly, you know, our businesses are in trouble. And, you know, our citizens are in trouble. So its its really and i i would like to say, in defense of the governor, that, you know, that is a very, very difficult time, and these are difficult decisions. And i am counting on the fact that the governor and the president have an ace team of people that are advising them. And i dont have that luxury here, in roswell, georgia. Were a city of about first of all, people should know about you that you are a business person. That was a catalyst for you getting into public service. So you understand business better than a lot of politicians, frankly. Now, the confidence of the team. Where does the confidence come from . I mean, your governor, i know you support him. But, on april 1st, no irony, he said, hey, i just learned that you can be asymptomatic and still spread the virus. Really . My 10yearold has known that for two months. And, now, he wants you to reopen, even though, even by the president s own reckoning, and hes very aggressive when it comes to reopening, right . You dont meet the criteria of the cdc. So why do you have confidence hes getting good advice when he is not meeting the standards the cdc set out and has not shown great acumen about coronavirus . I can only hope that he is getting good advice, advice that i am not privy to. And, you know, i will tell you that, at a local level, wref to de we have to deal with his orders, and we will deal with them. And we will support them because, by law, we have to do that. However, i will also say to you that my message to the citizens of roswell and our Business Owners is be careful, be safe, shelter in place, and dont let this happen too quickly. The governors order does not require that businesses open. It does not require that citizens attend or go to those businesses. And my only hope is that, through our message here in the city of roswell, is that we can kwin convince our citizens and our business businesses to be safe and be cautious, and open at a slower pace. And that is what i am fighting for. Well, it can be amazing what the president s voice can do, especially in party. It will be interesting to see if the governor reconsiders any aspect of it in the next 40 or so hours. Mayor lori henry, i wish you good luck and good health going forward. We are here to get out information about what matters in your community and those surrounding it, always. Thank you so much, chris. And and we support you, as well. Thank you you, be well, mayor. All right. New york city. Fight rages on. And one of the things i love to remind you guys is how everyday people are stepping up and recognizing the sacrifice of our army of warriors on the front lines in the hospitals. Watch. Listen to that. I love how the city comes alive for those people. I love gratitude in our attitude. And lets take it to the opposite coast. An american story for you serving up a giant jolt of thanks. I got that for you next. Ication and business challenges is our commitment. 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