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Good evening. Everyone im erin burnett. Outfront tonight, we begin with the breaking news on the search. At this moment, search planes heading out to find any sign of flight 370, the bluefin 21 is back on the bottom of the ocean, making another desperate pass to locate flight 370. The bluefin has been hunting on the ocean floor for the past seven hours. It was at this moment last night we first learned the bluefin had aborted its mission and surfaced after spending only spending seven and a half hours under water. The water became too deep. Crews analyzed limited data. They found no sign of any plane debris. In a minute were going to talk to one of the men leading the search effort. First well begin with Michael Holmes out front in perth. Planes taking off right now. What else can you tell us . Reporter yeah, th. Yeah. That will be taking off about now. We still have the ships out there searching for surface debris, although angus houston, the search leader told us a couple of days ago that that search would wind down. They have done new analysis on drift patterns. They have another guess of where to go looking. But certainly hopes are fading theyre going to find any evidence of wreckage on the surface. As for bluefin, youre right. Its about halfway. Getting on for halfway through its second mission, of course. The First Mission aborted when it went deeper than it was programmed to do and had to resurface. In just the last couple of minutes, we did get word from the search organizers that when they brought it up that first time, they did download what data it had in the first few hours, and nothing of significance was found. It went down again, as i say, nearly halfway through its search on the bottom. Then it will spend another couple of hours coming back up. It will then have that data downloaded. And that takes a couple of hours, four hours in fact. And then were told it will go down again and continue the search, weather permitting. Swells of about 2 meters out this today. It is a mammoth search at this pace of this bluefin 21. It could take up to two months to cover the search area. Erin . Two months. Im speechless. Thank you very much, Michael Holmes reporting from perth. I want to bring in eric mcevoy of the joint forces headquarters with the Royal New Zealand air force, one of the chiefs in charge of the air search. Good to talk to you again, commander. Air search i know just getting under way. Obviously, you know, were told were in the final days and hours of a visual search whether by plane or by plane. Are you ready to make the call to call it off . No, that wont be our call. It will be a political call between australia and the malaysian authorities. What i can tell you today is there is another eight or Nine Missions planned. Air crews will be going out again today for that visual search. And the crews will be focused on making sure that they make the most of today, as they have this is day 40 for the air search. So well be continuing their effort today. There is also that sample from the oil slick on its way to a lab in australia. I know it could be a little bit of time, maybe a day or so before we know, theyre tasked whether its from flight 370. How optimistic are you that this slick is from the plane, given youve had your planes flying over this area again and again and again and have not seen any other debris from the plane . So, well have to wait for the analysis to come in. The ship that collected that sample was steaming towards perth. My understanding is theyll offload that sample the a helicopter, which will transit to perth for laboratory analysis. So im anticipating that it will be a wee while until we actually get the samples and figure out whether or not it was a match to 370. Commander, are you still sure the plane is there . So the search area that weve got in terms of the search for the airplane from an airborne perspective is searching in the most likely credible area for a debris field. So our planes and all the other aircraft searching for the debris on the surface. Has recently been updated. Its equipped with up to date sensors and a visual search and a radar search im sure will pick up anything that will be on the surface. Our crews are well trained in search and rescue. This is in the area in terms of the sea states and the environment that new zealand crews are welltrained for. So if there is something on the surface, im very confident that well pick it up. All right, commander, thank you very much. Good to talk to you again. We appreciate your time today. And now captain Timothy Taylor joins me, an ocean search expert. Good to see you, tim. Obviously you hear theyre looking, theyre desperately looking there has just been no sign of this thing as of yet. Do you from your expertise buy into the possibility that there never will be debris on the surface, but that it is indeed where theyre looking below the surface . Its debris somewhere if its underwater, where it shows up may be on the beach some place in a year or so. So the storms, the 30 days or 40 days plus of weather is going to move that miles and miles. Its just scattered. So what the bluefin and its chances here . Obviously it aborted yesterday the floor was deeper than it anticipated. But only by a few hundred feet. And were talking about tens of thousands of feet. So the margin of error here is very, very slim. What happens to the bluefin when it goes too deep . The bluefin is doing exactly what its supposed to do. Going deep is easy, all right. Its protecting itself. Its been told by the programmers above it not to go to a certain depth, not to go not to do certain things. And the bottom just got deeper than it was supposed to there. I understand that it can go deeper. Manufacturers are saying it can go a little bit deeper, a little past its rated depth. So we have a potential to go deeper. But right now its doing what its supposed to do. And what about the fact there is an it. Were using this singular word. All right. This singular pronoun. Multiple drones were used to search for the air france wreckage. In that case they knew where it was, or they knew where the debris on the surface was so they could calculate. Why are there not multiple drones being used here . That may be the case. They may eventually bring multiple drones in here. But the bluefin was the fastest deployed, easiest package to get on location at the time that the ocean shield was departing the dock. And its quite capable of doing the job. People just have to have the patience. That this dive that it aborted, its technically aborted, but it came up with data and lots of information on the bottom. They know a whole lot more than they can plug into the programs. Now. Maybe the best one that the American Navy has, but there are other things. The navy has an orion search system that my understanding, correct me if im wrong, but it can send the data up in realtime. So you dont have to have this two hour down and back. On face value that looks like thats the greatest thing in the world. But in order to tow that at that depth, it will take you 20 miles out. It will take you 12 or 13 hours to tow it back in and turn around. So its just the time goes in a different place. Exactly. Auvs are by and large more efficient in the future for this type of operation. And they will get more data than the towed arrays if you give them the opportunity to do it. So what is your bottom line view . Is the plane here . If those pings are right, theyll find the plane in this area. Theyre just going to have to take the time. As the commander said, it could take two months. You have to let the vehicle do its job. And it is a 5 million asset plus. And its designed to protect itself. So if it gets into a situations where its not supposed to be, it comes home. As we said, there has been instances where sea life, orcas or something tried to eat the bluefin. We had a situation where the vehicle the vehicle will have telemetry like the black box when it went down. We had it 30 meters off the bottom get pulled down to the bottom, move around up and down, and then it shuts itself off and floated up. It took an hour and a half and we recovered it. And the telemetry showed that it was all over the place. Use your imagination. The only thing we can think of is it may have caught a line and been pulled to the bottom. But there is no fishing lines at that depth. So were thinking of some sea monster. Big squid or maybe a whale decided to take it as a lure and see what it was. Tim, thank you very much. We appreciate it. Outfront next, the air and sea portion of the search going to be scaled back. No question about it in the coming days. Were going to talk to the family of one of the passengers, whether they think thats premature, and where they think the plane is. Plus, if the plane is found, its just the beginning. Were going to show you exactly what salvaging a 777 would entail. Well actually have one. And what shape will the plane be in if it is found . Guess what . U. S. Investigators actually crashed a plane to find out. [ male announcer ] this is karen and jeremiah. They dont know it yet, but theyre gonna fall in love, get married, have a couple of kids, [ children laughing ] move to the country, and live a long, happy life together where they almost never fight about money. 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And while the air search is bigger than yesterday with 14 aircraft, we were just told by a commander in the Royal New Zealand air force that they are expecting to be told to call off their air search in the next couple of days, although they are running up to Nine Missions today. Thats part of the problem weve seen with this. Its been discouraging for the families of the passengers. One of the family members is sarah bajc. Sarah, im glad to talk to you again. Obviously there has been no news at this time on the plane. You and i spoke a few days ago. There was no news then there is still no debris. Theyre going to have to call off the search for physical evidence and debris on the surface. Whats your feeling about that . Well, were at day 40. And its absolutely confounding to me that weve not seen a single shred of concrete evidence. And the authorities seem to be spending all of their energies looking in the water, but there is no evidence in the water either. The inmarsat date that has never been verified that that is the right location, and there has been absolutely no debris. The opinion of the families is maybe theyre looking in the wrong places. The drone is looking below the water too. Do you think theyre doing everything they can to find this plane, given that all of the searching, at least that we understand is right now in a certain space in the indian ocean . Its impossible to really know. But when all of the energy seems to be dedicated only to looking under the water, but there is circumstantial evidence pointing that theyre looking in the wrong place, we have to wonder why theyre not looking in other places. So, for instance, there is a number of mathematicians and physicists who have looked at the inmarsat data and said there is no compelling direction for the southern route, that there is an equally compelling argument for the northern route. Yet i dont see any resources dedicated to looking at the northern route. The experts also say that a plane would have resulted in some debris, yet in more than five weeks weve had absolutely no debris. Not even an air sickness bag floating on top of the water. So, you know, we dont understand why theyre not exploring other options. And i know, sarah, you and other families have had this frustration. When you and i spoke last, you talked about the plane being taken. That was the word you used, which really, you know, it stuck in my head and a lot of our viewers heads. What are the other scenarios you think they should be looking for . Well, i do still believe the plane was taken. There is enough evidence of it having been flown to support that. But even if it was a ghost plane or zombie plane, even if there had been a catastrophic failure and the flight rebooted itself like any computer would reboot itself, the default behavior of that would have been to go 360 degrees, which would be due north. It wouldnt be to default to go south. So, you know, whether it was catastrophic failure or whether the plane was taken intentionally, we still believe that there are options should be explored. And many of those options are actually over land. Theyre not over the sea. We just learned yesterday, sarah, about a possible cell phone connection. And thats all we know at this point. We dont know whether there was a call or anything else. But a cell phone tower made contact with the pilots is off, well after the communications were turned off. Why do you think that information is just coming out now, given how central it could be . I dont know. Its amazing to me how much information is withheld by the malaysian government and just kind of released in dribs and drabs. Its almost like its enough to keep us from starving, like giving a sip of water to a dying man. I would have thought the first thing they would have done is checked all the cell phone towers within possible distance of that flight path to see if there was any kind of connection activity for all the passengers, not just for the pilot. They clearly have everybodys cell phone numbers or could have easily garnered those. So its really amazing to me that were only hearing this now. And sarah, before we go, you and have i talked about your facebook posts to philip and your feeling of still feeling that life connection with him. Do you still feel that now . I do. And i have to keep doing that. I do it for my own sanity. I do it for him. I do it for the other families. You know, if there is a chance that the passengers are still alive, which i believe there is still a chance, then we need to be sending our hopes and our prayers and our energy towards them as well. This must be an incredibly awful experience for them to be going through. So we owe it to them to keep the hope up. 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The air search for flight 370 expands. 14 planes right now looking for any sign of the airliner. We are told, of course, the Aerial Search could end any day right now. New zealand, the commander there of the air force was telling us theyre still searching. But they do expect that call to come. At this moment, the bluefin 21 is on the ocean floor, hunting. If the plane is found, the most important thing will be to retrieve the black boxes. What a salvage operation 15,000 feet, about three miles under the water would actually look like. Reporter its a search for that piece to a puzzle buried under mountains of trash in a landscape so remote in pitchblack. The search area more than 40 times the size of los angeles. Youre not only fighting your depth, youre fighting maneuvering down there. But now youre fighting the ocean trying to pull you a different way. Reporter Eric Crumpton builds and runs rovs for global diving and salvage in seattle. He has recovered everything from tanker trucks to planes. He says every job is a delicate maneuver, complicated by the harshest elements. What conditions are crews dealing with here . The indian ocean is notorious for high seas. On a regular day, theyre going to have 14 to 16foot sea theres. Reporter crumpton says when the time comes, it will likely take the rov more than three hours just to make the threemile journey to the bottom of the indian ocean. Its son far and pings the only guides in complete darkness. Pilot Warren Poston maneuvers the rov to begin the task of salvaging what wreckage is found. Thats actually looking out of the rov camera. Reporter a control room similar to this usually sits on the ship above the wreckage. Poston manipulates these tiny claws to maneuver his way to the debris. Take a look at this operation off the big island of hawaii. The rov using power tools underwater to fix a pipeline. Here the robol struggles to pick up a small tool. This operation alone took two weeks in 2,000 feet of water. A small task compared to retrieving mh 370s flight recorder, which could be about three miles underwater. You just sift through the trash until you find it you. Might need to pull every piece of that trash up before you find it laying undersomething. Reporter the challenges dont end once the debris the collected. Lifting thousands of feet to the surface is a science in itself. Sometimes it takes several trips, the journey three hours each way. The most dangerous portion of any recovery is getting that from the water on to the surface. Reporter its not just objects, either. 239 people were on board Malaysia Flight 370. Warren poston has recovered other plane crashes. He has seen the graves that remain. How hard is that . Its i guess it wouldnt be any different than a fireman or a policeman or a soldier, you know. Its a job. 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Unlike the missing Malaysia Flight 370, they all crashed on land. But surprisingly, they provide clues to what might happen next into the investigation. Youre telling me the crashing on water is no different than crashing on land. Depending on your impact velocity, depending on your impact angle, the effects could be the same between water and land. Reporter aviation safety expert and crash investigator anthony brick house takes me through a field of aircraft wreckage used for teaching at embryriddle university. The Lesson Learned here, the difficulty of finding a sonar signal of flight 370s wreckage depends on what was happening in the final seconds of flight. At less than 45 degrees, were more likely to see large pieces of aircraft. Yes. Something less than 45 degrees or around 45 degrees, with the typical velocity that an aircraft would be lets say landing at, there could be a chance that the plane could remain relatively intact, depending on how it hit the water. Reporter under this scenario, the 777 could be moving as slowly as 170 Miles Per Hour on impact. At a shallow angle, it could be like what we saw in the crash of a ups jet last summer in birmingham. The pilot and copilot were killed. The plane was still in hundreds of pieces, but with large easily recognizable sections broken away. Its obvious this one went in headfirst. Absolutely. Reporter but the steep angle impact is much more devastating. Both people on board were killed hen this small aircraft hit nose first. Notice how the entire plane sustained severe damage. But the same principles apply to a 777. The steeper the angle, the faster the speed, the smaller the pieces of wreckage, even when it hits the water. In this scenario, flight 370 could be traveling between 500 and 600 Miles Per Hour. Wings and engines might break away. But not so for the passenger compartment, the fuselage. Imagine the horrific crash of shanksville on 9 11 if it happened on water. In the industry, we call that a smoking hole type accident because thats what you have when you get to the crash site. Reporter but what happens if it gets in the water . Water is bog to act just like land would. Water is not compressible. So when you hit it, its going to pretty much have the same effect that land would have. Reporter making it much more problematic to detect with sonar at the bottom of the ocean. Brickhouse says a hopeful outcome at this point would be to find wreckage similar to the air france crash of 2009 when investigators were able to salvage pieces of the jets lavatory, beverage carts, even the engines. Tail section, a wing, a piece of a wing. One of the two engines may be fully intact on the sea bottom that would be an excellent clue, because basically you could start at this point and work your way out and hope to find more wreckage. Reporter but first, something, anything has to be found to produce the lead that has eluded the world for more than five weeks. David mattingly, cnn, daytona beach, florida. Now i want to bring in our aviation specialists, les abin, mary schiavo. You would think there would be a lot of debris. Yet here we are 40 days and there has been none. There a scenario you think this plane could be essentially intact at the bottom of the ocean . The only scenario is if that airplane was guided down by a pilot in a controlled ditching situation. And even then there would still be fragments broken off. And in this scenario, were talking about if there were survivors, then i would say well, why werent the doors open with the slide rafts deployed . And the slide rafts have emergency locator transmitters, elts. They would have been thrown into the water. I find it highly unlikely. I guess if youre in some scenario where youre flying the plane and the only person alive. Correct. Mary, does this add up . As you just saw in david mattinglys reporting, a plane hitting the ground and hitting the water at these kinds of speeds, unless its a very controlled landing, is essentially the same thing. But if there are pieces as in almost any scenario other than the one he said, and even that one is dicey. Ill get to why in a moment, they havent found any. How come . Well, there are many reasons why they might not have found any. First of all, the sunny that les just talked about. But with so much time passing between when they actually got to the area where they believe it crashed into the water, the debris can move in very, very wide circles. And also there have been crashes where there hasnt been much debris, even though there is debris on the ocean floor. Its hit or miss what will or will not float. And the 777 is tough. I used to be an aviation professor. And i would show is a film in my class of the 777 when it was broke. They actually broke one intentionally, and they flexed the wings to the point it would break away from the body. It wasnt a full 90 degrees up, but i would say its a full 70 degrees. Its a very tough airplane. A lot of it might remain intact. But les, to have the landing where that would happen and then under the pressure that it goes down that it wouldnt split, there hasnt been a day in the search so far. Forget the cyclone that came through where the waves havent been a few feet. You control land a plane in waves of the five, six feet . You can. Its a difficult feat you. Land parallel there is a technique to do it. But still, all in all, i mean, youre landing, you know, a 650,000 pound gross weight airplane. The engines are going to break off, probably more than likely. You know, its hard to predict. But its indeed possible. But going on marys point, it is a strong airplane. Look at asiana. That thing crashed into a seawall and still continued, cartwheeled. And we had almost all people survive. The death was not related to the crash. Correct. But it was a pilotcontrolled situation, albeit not exactly what we want on a landing. Right, rights. What about what sarah bajc just said. Obviously her partner philip was on that plane. Jeff, she saying where is the inmarsat data . Her point is some people have pointed it could go the northern route. There had been. Its not the mainstream analysis that is out there. Lets be fair and say that. What do you think of this, that we still havent seen this data . Is there a chance that this plane is somewhere else . Well, its not only mainstream analysis that were in the right place. We simply have taken the word of the authorities at face value. The americans have been saying this. The malaysians, the australians have all been saying take our word for it, its in the southern ocean. I think if we dont find debris in the surface, if we dont find wreckage under the surface, the question is going to become deafening, where is this plane . Why have you been telling us that its in the south . We dont need to go to crazy conspiracies i think to want to know why do we think its in the south if there is no evidence physically that its there. And i hear your point. Mary, do you hear his point . Although i would say you have all these different governments agreeing on it together. I would never think of this many governments agreeing on anything. So yes, were making the assumption that theyve all seen the backup data and somehow agreed on this, which may be the wrong assumption. Well, its possible. You know, there is another thing that we are relying on a lot of Different Countries who told us that they reviewed their radar data and they didnt have the plane. Now, we know now from the malaysian authorities that that radar data, depending on the country is not too reliable. We realize that the indonesian radar is largely in disrepair. We realize there is something amiss with the malaysian radar given the delay in the handoff from civilian to military and the military did not send up any planes to look. It might not exist, that data. And i think its in the ocean. But the thing that would support jeffs theorys is that we have just been trusting that the country said they provided radar, and we said okay, thats their radar. So thats not really reliable. Its probably not reliable enough for court. Lets put that it way. So, yeah, there is lots of new avenues to look if you say its not in the indian ocean where theyre searching. And, les, there are things forget the things that we found out that turned out to not be true there are also things we havent known. Nothing wrong with that per se. But for example, if there was a cell phone purposely turned on at some point, the issues of motive and information that they may have may change this. It could. There is every aspect of it has a whole like weve been talking all this time and perplexing. But at the same token, these are the facts that we have at this point. This is the best assumptions and calculations that we have. And everything seems to lead to that search area. To me, at least, at this point. All right. Well, thanks to all three of you. And outfront next, exclusive video of al qaedas top leaders. Yes, there is video of it. And they boldly had a meeting out in the open, not in a cave. Did the cia miss the chance to take them out . And an Ebola Outbreak striking a city of two million tonight. Dr. Sanjay gupta is there with an exclusive report and exclusive video of what happens when ebola strikes. [ male annos joe woods first day of work. And his new boss told him two things cook what you love, and save your money. Joe doesnt know it yet, but hell work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and game from the great northwest. 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Putin also said this was a sharp escalation in the ukraine conflict which comes as the Ukrainian Government launches what its calling antiterrorist operations against pro russian protesters. A source close to the ukrainian opposition tells me tonight the situation is moving towards fullblown war. Troops and tanks were on the move today in Eastern Ukraine amid reports of fighter jets flying overhead and shots being fired. The United States is keeping that troop estimate at 40,000 Russian Troops on the border. They say theyre ready to invade with almost no notice. And our breaking news continues with new video, incredible new video that we have of a major al qaeda meeting. The groups leadership appears thought the open, unconcerned about being targeted by american drones. Its a cnn exclusive with our barbara starr. Reporter its the largest and most dangerous gathering of al qaeda in years, and the cia and the pentagon either didnt know about it or couldnt get a drone there in time to strike. U. S. Officials will not say. But every frame is being analyzed. In the middle, the man known as al qaedas crown prince, nasr al wuhayshi, out in the open, greeting followers. Man who says he wants to attack the u. S. , seemingly unconcerned he could be hit by an american drone. This is quite an extraordinary video, the leader of al qaeda on arabian peninsula, number two of al qaeda worldwide addressing over 500 fighters somewhere in yemen, taking a big risk in doing this. Reporter in his speer speech, wuhayshi makes clear he is going after the u. S. , saying we must eliminate the cross. The bearer of the cross is america. U. S. Officials believe the highly produced video is recent, with some fighters faces blurred, there is worry it all signals a new round of plotting. The u. S. Intelligence community shouldnt be surprised such a large group assembled together, including the leadership, and somehow they didnt notice. Reporter there is good reason to worry. Al qaeda in the arabian peninsula, also known as aqap is considered the most dangerous al qaeda affiliate. The cia and the pentagon have repeatedly killed aqap leaders with drone strikes, but the group now emboldened. The main problem about this group is that it has a bomb maker who can put bombs on to planes that cant be detected. Reporter that bomb maker, inham al asiri is believed to be responsible for several attempts against the u. S. , including the failed 2009 Christmas Day underwear bomber attack. He is not seen in the video, which emerged on jihadist websites. He remains in hiding. And Intelligence Experts say he and other aqap leaders have gone back to using couriers to communicate to avoid detection, making it even harder to figure out what wuhayshi may be up to next. And his message to the United States was very much the same as bin ladens. Were coming after you. Reporter so the question remains, if al qaeda in yemen is such a serious threat, did the u. S. Not have any intelligence that this meeting was about to take place, or did they know and simply decide to pass it by . Erin . Well, we talk now about the death toll from the deadly Ebola Outbreak in west africa. This is one of the most con tag tagious diseases, now, in the city that is home to 2 Million People, also in liberia and mali. Dr. Sanjay gupta has more. Reporter youre about to go in an isolation ward in guinea. There is a reason you may not have seen images like this before. These patients are fighting one of the most deadly diseases, ebola, shut off the ability to clot and invaded organs in their body. Up to nine out of ten patients will die. But this horror is isolated in guinea. We found markets still busy here, markets are full. Children, lots of children are still smiling. You see how scary ebola is, it is not easily contigious, people dont typically spread it until they are sick, really sick. When that is the case, the patients are not up walking down busy streets. They are down in bed, in hospitals or worse. Even the dead are highly contigious. This doctor has treated ebola for more than 30 years. The risk is not the people dealing with ebola patients, but regular patients not thinking of ebola. It only takes a small amount of the virus anywhere on your skin to spread an infection. And as i learned, no precaution is too careful. He is one of the doctors without borders, from canada. He comes into the settings for weeks at a time. He is not married. He has no children. That would be a job liability, he tells me. Multiple pairs of gloves and masks. The head is completely covered. A hula manufacture layer multilayer gown, boots, to treat a patient with ebola is like preparing to land on the moon. But youre their only visitor, the only person helping them survive. They do this so people outside these wards, the people on the streets will never know what it is like to be inside. You know, erin, it is just remarkable work the Health Care Workers are doing. And i want to point out something else. The local Health Care Workers, because of the stigma associated with ebola, theyre in the camps, risking their own lives. And they wouldnt even tell their own families about it, worried about being ostracized, but that is what it takes to make a difference. And as you said you have to be in a specific state to spread it. But obviously that raises the risk. Is this situation under control or is it getting worse . You know, i think what happens typically, you have sort of the explosion of cases initially. Because theyre not sure exactly what theyre dealing with. They go back and realize a lot of people who were sick had ebola. And the numbers are still rising, make no mistake. They have gone up over the last few days. What were hearing is the rate at which the numbers are growing is starting to decrease a little bit. That could be a little bit of good news. Well have to see what the next days hold. But even if there were no known cases it still would be a month and a half before the outbreak is contained. So there is a long way to go no matter how you look at it. All right, thank you, sanjay gupta reporting in guinea. And now to nigeria, where radical islamists have committed an atrocity. As much as 200 girls have been kidnapped. Officials say the extremists who have been linked to alqaeda arrived in trucks and buses and then stormed the school as the students slept. A few girls managed to escape as the truck broke down. They ran away. But this is just the latest attacks on the nigerian schools. Some of them have walked into rooms, Shooting Point blank in the head. This comes just after a day when a bombing killed more than 20 people. 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When the moon hits your eye reporter it was plenty of amore for this lunar eclipse. Photographers kept stealing looks at the blood moon from ecuador to australia. Time magazine condensed the eclipse into nine seconds, while nasa showed the view from the moon. And the moon based on the bible came from this book, there will be three more blood moons in the next year and a half. Pastor john hagy told fox news. The bible using the sun, the moon and the stars as a Communication System to humanity says something is about to change and World History is going to change forever. Reporter for many, not only was the blood moon not bloody it was barely a moon. The moon between our fingers . Reporter it is that little white speck pinched between those fingers as everyone tried to get into the picture with a blood moon. But first, let me take a selfy. Reporter there it is overhead, there it is over the shoulder, this one was tweeted out with the caption blood moon selfy minus the blood one guy posed making a duck face. And from his room, 16yearold oscar rivera livestreamed the eclipse using a flashlight to illuminate himself. Oh, my gosh. Reporter he sat there for five hours. His viewers kept asking where is the moon . Show me moon, please. But just as the moon was a third of the way eclipsed, oscar couldnt take the cold anymore. Im just going to take like a quick break and then as soon as i get back ill give you guys a view of the moon. Reporter he didnt return. As soon as i went inside i didnt want to go outside, not even for a blood moon. Reporter those who missed it photoshopped it with a howling wolf with a miley cyrus jeanne moos, cnn. You wait five hours and give up. Thank you for watching, well see you tomorrow night. Anderson starts right now. Good evening, it is 8 00 p. M. , off the west coast of australia, 8 00 a. M. And off the coast, a sub is finally back on track, tonight you will see for yourself exactly what a bluefin can see. Also, what appears to be the biggest gathering of alqaeda, well tell you who is in the video and why it is so important. And later, our own dr. Sanjay gupta suits up to help fight the Ebola Outbreak in west africa, some of whom have lost lives in the battle. Some of the medical personnel. We begin with dr. Sanjay gupta. And right now, a bluefin