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Himself of south korea is not in any way suggesting that trump should just accept. Be cautious, first engage at a lower level and trump is like no, i want to do it, lets announce it now. The south koreans end up making the announcement in the driveway in front of the white house. On every level, this is unprecedented, and yet on every level, this is par for the course and what we should expect with President Trump. Normally presumably you would have had the president say, lets think about it. Sure. Lets convene a National Security council meeting. Even president moon jaein, the south korean president all for engagement and negotiation, offered to meet with kim jongun he said if the continues are right, let me think about this. Ill get back to you. President trump normal situation should have done convene a meeting and talk about pros and cons of having such a Summit Meeting with kim jongun, and then coordinate the policy and then announce it. So stanley, whats wrong with trying this . The Trump Argument i suppose would be look, weve tried all that kind of thing. Why not do something out of the box . Theres nothing wrong with trying this. I think extraordinary times require extraordinary measures, and in my view, President Trump had no choice. First, this had been clearly orchestrated by president moon who invested enormous Political Capital and prestige sending his National Security adviser to personally brief the president , carrying the invitation. It would have been a massive insult to president moon, had he not accepted it and it would have been a massive insult to kim jongun. Furthermore, i think the president , because of the way he runs the white house, does not have the luxury that president clinton had, where he could send Secretary Albright, Ambassador Sherman and a very large team. We had four assistant secretaries, to pave the way for a trip. Is secretary tillerson really going to be able to represent the u. S. On north korea policy, after the way the president has publicly treated him three times . Is this the right time for National Security adviser mcmaster reportedly on the way out to be heading the delegation . You cant have the secretary of defense, so really, it is up to President Trump to start it, but remember, the key thing, the point that i agree with the white house and i hope they stick to it, that this is not a negotiation. Negotiation requires endless rounds of preparation and detail. This is a meeting, and if a meeting can start to form the beginnings of a relationship, and im not saying friendship, if a meeting can somewhat reduce the tensions and most importantly if a meeting can end up with an agreement on a process for negotiations, it is then worth the risk. Sue mi terry the north wanted this meeting for a long time because this is a very repressive regime and this provides incredible legitimacy to the regime. North koreans have sought a meeting with the u. S. President for years. President bush was invited to meet with him. It normalizes the country, but i have other concerns. Trump might not see this as just a beginning of the negotiation. What if he concludes, what if he agrees to Something Like you know, north koreans say if their Regime Security is guaranteed they might give up nuclear weapons. They want to break up the u. S. south korea alliance, they want to kick off the u. S. Forces off the Korean Peninsula. I dont have confidence mr. Trump is going to start something. What if he decides hey, this might work or at the other end i think victor chan was absolutely right when he said you have a premature negotiation. If it falls through, there is no recourse. You already met with kim jongun. Now youre going to say okay weve used that Engagement Negotiation Card and now we have no recourse except to take Kinetic Action on north korea. You said you knew this was going to happen in the sense that trump was going to want to meet with kim jongun. Why . Because no one else has done it. Kim jongun has not met with a single other leader of the world since hes become, since hes taken power, and no american president has ever met with the north korean leader, only former secretary of state. So its the first. Its incredible television, clearly trump wants to make this happen. But that doesnt mean its going to happen, and there are a lot of things, simply the fact of saying theres going to be a summit has made trumps presidency more about north korea than i think any of us want. The fact is, this has been the most intractable geopolitical problem for several administrations. Now theyve all decided to kick it down the road even though we know its getting worse and they knew it was getting worse because they worried that opening up that can of worms had the potential to kill an awful lot of people, and the fact that trump is now making his presidency more about that is, of course, a greater danger for all of us. But youre saying just from a pure tv point of view, this is irresistible to the former host of the apprentice. Ill Say Something else, its irresistible i think at some point putin will make an offer to host this thing because its irresistible to have the media covering it in this sort of way. They both like that kind of thing. Its going to happen. It doesnt mean that the meeting is going to occur, doesnt mean the meeting is going to be any good. This is all very good for north korea. North korea is now what, 95 of the way to a robust nuclear arsenal, with delivery systems, right . Yes. Now is the time for them to talk. Absolutely. North korea is going to spin this as going into this Summit Meeting from a position of strength. Theyre going to say its because of our nuclear strength. They are 95 done with their nuclear program. They have one more technical hurdle that they have to cross, which is to show successful reentry capability but South Korea And Japan are already under north Korean Nuclear threat, they have between 20 to 06 nuclear warheads. Theyve shown Icbm Capability that can reach all of the United States and they are very close, were coming in from a position of strength. Theres two points we have to take a break. When we come back, what im going to do is ask stanley roth what this meeting would look like, since hes the guy who planned the last highlevel meeting, when we come back. Ways to lose stubborn belly fat. The roasted core wrap. 3, 2, 1. Not cool. Freezing away fat cells with coolsculpting . Now thats cool coolsculpting safely freezes and removes fat cells with little or no downtime. 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We expected hed make the initial presentation, instead he turned to Secretary Albright and asked her to start, and when she stopped in intervals because we were told he didnt like long presentations he had her speak for 30, 45 minutes. It was quite something. There was of course a big surprise unwelcome of the Stadium Event that Propaganda Event with the 100,000 athletes charging the stage with fireworks and clapping, so expect surprises, depending on the venue of where this is held which we dont know, there may be less capacity for major surprises, comparable to the stadium. When you say that, because You Dont Think Trump should go to pyongyang. I dont think he should go to pyongyang and i dont think kim should come here. Id prefer the dmz, peace house, because i think it gives excellent access to the rok government. You can have daily conversations after the negotiations, and japan could send a delegation and its great for coordination, but still, even there, theres less capacity for major surprises, but even at the trivial level of protocol, what if on the one hand kim gives President Trump a great big bear hug, how do you respond to that awkward moment . What a bad scenario, he gives him a diatribe about all the u. S. Sins going back to lgss about u. S. Behavior in the korean war. So the president has to be prepared for that. I think the important point is, one, do the right thing. Youre here on an historic first meeting of leaders, shake friends, you dont have to be best friends. Second, expect surprises and try to think of how you deal with them. Third, dont be provoked. The worst outcome they trade insults and it becomes a race to the bottom. Fourth, stick with your plan. Dont try to solve anything. That can be dangerous. Remember reagan at rakia vick with gorbachev, one of the scariest in my government service. Understand some words dont mean the same with each, denuclearization, youre not here to work out the details to come up with common definitions. Try to get a plan for a negotiating process. Sue mi terry its possible this wont happen. Trumps own National Security council seems to be walking back the possibility, by putting on conditions were only going to do the summit if theres denuclearization. Im getting already a sense nsc is trying to walk back this because before may, it is right around the corner. They understand the danger and the risk thats going to be involved with premature engaging with kim jongun right now. When we are prepared, thats fine but its a little bit too premature. North korea already said denuclearization is not on the table. What actions do they need to take . Theyre not going to take any more actions. If mr. Trump really wants to see him, he will. In terms of the venue, dmz is fine. Definite in ily mr. Trump shoul go to north korea because the north koreans will spin this into legitimacy, the u. S. President coming to north korea to cowtow to their leader. Do the dmz or a neutral country like switzerland or singapore. Stanley, a quick thought on china. Is china happy with the situation in they after all wanted a defusion of tension. This is sort of what the chinese want. I think theyre happy but conflicted. Of course anything that defuses the situation makes military action less likely, is very positive for them, if it can lead to a negotiating process, even better. At the same time, theyve got to be very concerned about the possibilities of a trade war, not just the steps taken but the steps that might be taken and that could influence their willingness to be helpful and third, thats probably a bit of resentment that north korea met with the u. S. President before meeting with the chinese president. Thats absolutely extraordinary. And the trade war part, whats extraordinary is the south koreans are under the gun with trumps tariffs even at the time were trying to build a close alliance with them. Thats right, the fact that this invitation was formally accepted by trump, at the same time trump is saying im going to put tariffs on steel and alum num against all these countries around the world and south korea happens to be quite an important exporter to the United States, but he backed away from that significantly, not just on mexico and kaen canada but sayi anyone can have exemptions and the south koreans said thank you so much, trump, youre brilliant for organizing this meeting with kim jongun but can we have an exemption. The u. S. Government said well work on that, well take care of the south koreans. One last thought, italian elections, ian bremer, this seems to be pretty big news. I think this is the most significant antiestablishment vote in a Major Industrial democracy in decades. Over 50 of the italians said theyre either for the fivestar movement, euro skeptic, the Largest Party now, or the Northern League strongly antiimmigration. The Establishment Parties are devastated. Its not going to matter that much nearterm, because the european economies are still doing well, but the fact that anyone that hoped that macron was sort of like turning the page and now were proglobalization, no. The antiestablishment sensibilities across all of europe are a wave getting stronger and stronger and italy shows that decisively. To me, exactly right, the big news is populism is not dead. We have not past Peak Populism and italy shows that pretty powerfully. Thank you all very much. Fascinating conversation. For more on italy, i had a chance to interview one of the nations finest minds about what it all means, go to cnn. Com fareed, see my chat. 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It is a party skeptical about free markets, from adam smith to Milton Friedman they have recognized free trade is at the heart of what makes capitalism work and they pointed tariffs are precisely the kind of Government Intervention that produces inefficiency and corruption, but republicans are now apparently comfortable with Government Intervention as long as its for the right people. It is also now a party that has developed a total nalysis. Consider trumps tariffs are opposed by a remarkable array of scholars from the conservative Heritage Foundation to the will Libertarian Kato to the brookings to the center for Economic Policy and research. The white house barely offers serious arguments about it instead providing a bogus justification for the tare i haves, National Security even though china and russia supply only a tiny portion of these goods to the United States. Despite Research Showing that previous protectionist policies have failed, that the Steel Industry has lost more jobs due to efficiency in automation than to trade, and that preservegs o preserving one job in the steel automobile industry through tariffs can cost consumers a whopping 1. 5 million Administration Supporters no longer offer a response. The day is dismissed as partisan spin or fake news and the final point is the gop is being transformed into a party that is basically hostile to foreigners and foreign countries. Even traditional allies like the you we europeans are increasingly viewed with great suspicion. It is bizarre to have chosen these tariffs that mostly threaten american allies. Now strayed does produce disruptions, especially severe ones in recent decades. The most sensible, costeffective way to deal with them would be to provide subsidies to workers who lose their jobs because of trade, and then invest in large scale retraining efforts, but that doesnt quite have the bite that attacking foreigners and Stoking Trade conflict does. Having transformed the partys views on issues as diverse as immigration and fiscal discipline, if trump wins the Battle Over Trade with his party, he will have won the war. The Republican Party will be history, and given his long demonstrated preferences in this regard, who knows, trump would probably want to rename the party the trump party. For more, go to cnn. Com fareed and read my the Washington Post column this week. 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I would imagine what theyre trying to talk about is regularizing and codifying that reality rather than reversing it. Well, militarily, which is really my expertise, they can threaten their south korean neighbors with a conventional threat. They have thousands of are till rear pieces and rockets, a raid along the demilitarized zone. They dont need the Nuclear Capability for south korea. They do need it to threaten us and the other stakeholders like japan and others in the region, and so i suspect they will try to compartmentalize this, and well have to decide or our negotiator also have to decide how compartmentalized do we want it to be. Are we trying to bring stability to the Korean Peninsula which takes you on one path or trying simply to denuclearize. That will be an important decision. Do you n your analysis of kim jongun, did you imagine that this might be possible, did he strike you because this is a fairly rational process, where he has built up his arsenal to the point where he feels secure, now hes willing to talk. That doesnt sound wild, crazy, irrational. I think the path he has put himself on to acquire the Nuclear Capability is quite rational. Some of the tactics along the way have been unimaginably brutal, and you know, caused instability in the region to spike. Now, i suspect well see all of that come out. You remember the last time when we met, we did have this conversation about, is he a rational actor. I certainly think hes a rational actor in the sense that hes principally interested in preserving his own regime and his dynasty into the future. The tactics are troubling. Weve seen, hes willing to do nearly anything to do that, and this is why this negotiation will be so challenging. When you look at the iran deal, whats your assessment and you know, how would you respond to the argument that iranians after the deal have not moderated their behavior. Theyre still a troublesome force in the region. I think its a little early to tell. Weve been at it for a couple of years. I think its important to note that it wasnt a u. S. iran deal. It was the permanent members of the u. N. Security council plus germany and iran, and so again, in the spirit of inclusion, these complex problems are best solved with, you know, allies and partners and coalitions and teams, rather than unilaterally or autonomously. So i would, you know, the most important thing for me is that we keep that resolve alive, that we will keep pressure on iran, not to go nuclear. Can you imagine, by the way, if we were dealing with a Nuclear Capability north korea, and a Nuclear Capable iran ti simultaneo simultaneously . Thats the definition of a bad day in the pentagon. 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Absolutely, and think its because, if you think about how weve, we as a nation have constructed our National Security apparatus, its through allies and partners, since the 50s, and in fact, we have 53 allies and partners around the globe, 28 in europe and the Organization Called the North Atlantic Treaty Organization and thats thousand weve built our security. As a result Military Leaders who have come through that system have learned that to achieve particular outcomes its not just about achieving them yourself, if you want them to last, its about achieving them through allies and partners, which can take longer, and can create frictions, but youre more likely to gain the knowledge you need to find Optimal Solutions. Youre more likely to share the burden, so solutions are affordable, and if you find Optimal Solutions that are affordable, they actually have a chance of enduring. Let me ask you a question about Civil Military relations. Sure. Right now. As you know, one of the things that the American Military has striven very hard to do is to be independent of the civilian authority, but to also be subordinate to it. Absolutely. We now have a situation where you have Generals Running Core parts of the american government, the secretary of defense is a former general, the Chief Of Staff is a former general, and the National Security adviser is a sitting in uniform general. Right. Is that, is that smart . I mean, is that, is that too many generals . Boy, you know, smart is a tough metric for me, but ill tell you shall its probably smart in the sense that theyre terrific individuals. I mean, they are very capable men. There is precedent of course where you would have these episodic cases where these military ushers may migrate into the administration. I think the reason were reacting to what we see now is that its happening all at once, and they are capable individuals. I worry, as ive said in other, when ive had other opportunities, that we just have to be sure that we dont confuse the American People about our militarys relationship with them, and for them, which is everybody, which ever side of the aisle or whatever your politics are, we have to make it clear that we are acting in their best interests, and to the extent that some people now believe the militarys holding back their president , and some people believe that just the opposite, not only theyre in his way, its not a healthy thing for Civil Military relations. So we just to ensure that we continue to make it clear that the military serves the country, and they are nonpartisan when it comes to political affiliation. And do you think that, is there a danger in a democracy of having so many generals, could it confuse the public into thinking this is a Government Run by generals . Yes, i dont think instinctively i dont think theres a risk to our democracy, but i do think that, lets just say hypothetically that the white house goes to the other direction in the next or the election after that. I think there will be a natural instinct for the Democratic Party to be suspicious of the military and its Senior Leaders because you know, they are so present in the trump administration. Thats not a challenge to democracy. Its actually, frankly, its a troubling issue for Civil Military relations and for our profession. So ive had former generals very distinguished ones, ones i think until today. Ones the names the public would know but unfortunately they told me this off the record who said they did think General Kelly has politicized his role more than a military person should, that they pointed to mattis and said thats the way to do it. You take off your uniform. You really are not called general mattis anymore. Youre secretary mattis. You are now serving as a civilian leader in a democratic system, and they contrasted that with General Kelly, who has been very political in his support for donald trump, made political statements of his own, and of course, Admiral Mullen said in his view, and Admiral Mullens view, politicized even the death of his own son saying president obama didnt call me when my son got killed. Is that a Distinction Worth bearing in mind, between mattis and kelly . Well, the distinction i think is not between mattis and kelly but between the role of the secretary of defense and the role of the white house Chief Of Staff. The secretary of defense has to deliver National Security policy, has to go and argue for a budget. By the way, and all of them have to go and support the president s budget, presuming theyve negotiated it to a satisfactory level, but the Chief Of Staff job is inherently political. The Chief Of Staff is the one who keeps the trains running on time, if. You will. The Chief Of Staff is the one that, after the National Security council makes a recommendation, talks about what is this going to mean to our politics, whats it going to mean to midterm elections, whats it going to mean to our caucus maybe he should be called mr. Kelly. Maybe he should. I actually would support that, fareed, yes. Always a pleasure having you on, general dempsey, mr. Dempsey, whichever. Next on gps the alarming new statistics about antisemitism and a disturbing theory on what is driving it, when we come back. Most pills dont finish the job because they dont relieve nasal congestion. Flonase allergy relief is different. Flonase relieves sneezing, itchy, watery eyes and a runny nose, plus nasal congestion, which pills dont. Flonase helps block 6 key inflammatory substances. Most pills only block one. And 6 is greater than 1. Start your day with flonase for more complete allergy relief. Flonase. This changes everything. Hais not always easy. 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Yeeeeeah ensure high protein. With 16 grams of protein and 4 grams of sugar. Ensure. Always be you. Tripadvisor compares prices from over 200 booking sites to time to bask. In low prices find the right hotel for you at the lowest price. Refreshing, isnt it . Tripadvisor. Egyptians are preparing to go to the polls in a few weeks, but the country is hardly a beacon of democracy these day. It does bring me to my question. An egyptian pop star was recently sentenced to prison for a joke about what . The nile, the pyramids, the sphinx or the suez canal. Stay tuned and well tell you the correct answer. My book of the week is five days in london may 1940. If you watch dunkirk or darkest hour and want more, this say short compelling case that adolf hitler almost conquered europe in 1940. Britain alone with its entire army surrounded by nazi forces on the french coast but one man fought back and turned the tide. Riveting reading. Now for the last look. We are all aware of the rise and incidence of hatred and violence against immigrants and more generally minorities in the last year, but a striking statistic makes one aware this is a larger problem than we realize. The number of antisemitic incidents in the United States surged in 2017, increasing by 57 , according to a new report by the antidefamation league. You might have thought jews in america could live safely and securely fully assimilated and integrated into the country to which they have contributed so much. But last year, america had its second highest number of reported incidents of harassment, vandalism or assaults against jews or jewish institutions since records began in 1979, with nearly 2,000 such incidents. The adl said it was the largest single year increase on record. This report came out just one week after the Southern Poverty Law Center published a study which found the number of neonazi hate groups in america grew by 22 last year. Black lives matter. So why is all this hate rising . One Associate Director told cnn the current mood in the u. S. Has some people feeling more liberated to express their hate. I guess the lesson is that, when leaders unleash the darkest sides of human nature, the hatred can spread to places that might have seemed safe and secure. This report should serve as another very sad reminder to the United States and other nations, not only is there work still to be done but that progress can be undone and quicker perhaps than we think. The correct answer to the gps Challenge Question is a the nile. Pop star sahreen has a song if you drink from the nile, you are destined to return but after she joked at a concert that drinking from the nile would actually give you a parasite she received a 360 month Prison Sentence for spreading fake news and insulting the state

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