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Blindsided, the family who opened their home and hearts to the shooter before the rampage speaks out. Everybody seems to know we didnt know. We had rules and he followed every rule to a t. And before he moved into your home, how well did you know him . I had met him a couple times before. He had spent a night at the house, and he was very polite. He seemed normal. Cnn has learned that the parkland, Florida School shooter had obtained at least 10 firearms, all of them rifles, according to Law Enforcement officials in the year prior to the shooting. Meanwhile, President Trump may have found an opening to take action after last weeks massacre. Today the white house is signalling a willingness to talk, saying in a statement, all discussions are ongoing and revisions are being considered, and the president is supportive of efforts to approve the federal background check system. Its possible the president is is reacting to the Strong Language from the students at the margery sto ri stoery stone high school. Students are gathering every microphone within reach to take action. If President Trump wants to see us, he should have taken our first invitation. Were not coming to him, he needs to come to us. Im going to ask him how much money he received from the National Rifle association. Mr. President , you control the house, you control the senate and you control the executive. You havent taken a single bill in Mental Health care or gun control and passed it. And thats pathetic. Youre either with us or against us. We are losing our lives while the adults are playing around. Many of those same students also reacted when the president chose to connect the tragedy in florida to the russia investigation, suggesting the fbi was spending, quote, too much time trying to prove russian collusion with the Trump Campaign. There is no collusion, the president said. Here to share with me their reporting and their insights, bloombergs tulia rampa, Jonathan Martin and Mary Kathleen ham from the federalist. Tulia, i want to start with you because were seeing the pressure that students are putting on lawmakers, putting on adults around the country right now. Has it changed the parameter of this discussion . This morning we saw the president come out and say, you know, i could support perhaps federal background checks and tweaks there. Its very clear that the words from these young people is something thats differentiating this particular tragedy from previous tragedies weve seen in the past where weve heard about thoughts and prayers and not very much action happens afterwards. Now these young people are actually calling out lawmakers, calling out the president by name. You know the president spent a lot of time watching tv this weekend in maralago, he tweeted as much, and its clear hes hearing the voices of these young people. I think thats part of the reason why youre seeing the white so you say were open to some type of gun legislation, which is something the president has supported very wholeheartedly the nra, he didnt think as much. He didnt think any new laws would restrict gun owners. Now theyre looking at maybe a bipartisan bill by senator cornyn and the senator from connecticut, chris murphy, because they realize that something needs to be done. Weve seen these tragedies happen over and over and not much action in congress. So the question is, do they and are they, right . Because this legislation that the white house seems to be open to from john cornyn, the texas senator, this was introduced in the wake of the Sutherland Springs shooting. This deals with background checks, this deals with domestic abuse, this deals with the military discharges and the like. Is there room for Common Ground here . Can this get past . Look, i dont know if the underlying big issues of this debate have changed, because frankly you always have the two sides who are pretty dug in. I do think there has always been some opening for some of these tweaks. The issue, of course, is that in 2007 we actually did an ncis improvement amendments act post virginia techs shooting which allowed for connecting databases and making sure Mental Health stuff has been reported. It has not gone that well, so i think the quickest path, i think, is to go for some of these tweaks that improve what already exists on the books and allows for things to be more openly shared. But as always, in the United States of america, liberty and security are going to butt up against each other and you are going to have some issues as the aclu did with obamas actions on the Mental Health part of this and gun checks. Bump stocks changing that wide support, not particularly controversial at this point. You would think if there was a will, they could get that done quickly. The president down in maralago asking the people staying there, apparently, what he should do on this. Fae affected, we are told, by meetings with his people on friday. And this morning before he goes golfing, we see this on the background checks. What do you make of it . This is sort of a n nonidealogical president who sort of asks peoples opinions. This is nothing new, but going to the primary he had to make some accommodations to secure the nomination, right . Guns, abortion, i think. He made it clear where he was to the republican base, and hes not really wavered on those issues. This is the first time youre seeing some wavering. He sees the Media Coverage, thats what drives him. He sees kids on tv and i think that bothers him so now hes looking at, what can we do . For him its more how can we stop the Media Coverage of these kids and change the tenor of the coverage . I think if that is this cornyn background check, hell be in support of it as long as the nra is okay with it and many senators. You mentioned bump stocks. If a week from now or a month from now, this has faded and were on to ten new things and there is not any kind of urgency in the congress, then hes not going to be for it because theyve moved on. The students are organizing this march on march 24, so there is a month here, at least. You have a monthlong window, i think, at a minimum for this to happen. Kaitlyn, you know, its interesting, weve seen lawmakers speak about this just this morning on cnn. Both from florida, one republican, one democrat talking about where they might be able to meet on this. Lets listen. We should be done talking about this and these should be pa passed and signed into law next week when were back in washington. Ted can put me down on his legislation right now. I will add my name to it as soon as he is ready to file it. I think that Republican Leadership is starting to realize that americans arent going to accept that this is the new normal. Americans arent going to accept that we may drop off our kids at school one day and that they may not come home because someone slaughtered them. You know, one of the words they used there, kaitlyn, was leadership. Paul ryan, whats he going to do next week when theyre back there . Is this something that will be a priority, do you think . I think what you bring up about the issue of momentum especially on gun control issues is so critically important. Weve seen that over and over and over again. Yes, there is bipartisan support for background checks broadly, but again, it depends on what the details are. Weve already seen big issues with big bipartisan support in the public go down and fail, really. Daca was the recent example. And also you also have this kind of new bogeyman of sorts in the fbi. People are pointing to the fbi mistakes as, okay, lets focus on that. So its a lot more complicated than just support, and it also depends on what the president s endorsement is actually, right . Is it an endorsement for this bill . Will he be kind of whipping votes if they do decide to bring it to the floor . There are so many question marks left. The real question is, is there acceptance to agree on the things that are already agreed on . I know that sounds counterintuitive. If they wanted to, they could get something done very, very quickly. Are they going to keep that debate in the area where there is agreement, or are you going to see both sides try to shift it. I want to play Rush Limbaugh who was talking about this over the weekend. Lets listen. The solution is we need concealed carry in these schools. If we are really serious about protecting the kids, we need a mechanism to be defensive when this kind of thing if were not going to take action to stop it, we better have mechanisms in these schools to stop it when it breaks out. If we dont do that, and all the rest of this is nothing more than political pog pos tosturine 2018 midterms and the election. Its no more than political posturing for 2018. Im not sure people like the political posturing. Its a tough issue for candidates sometimes. Its a tough issue for not only republicans but a lot of red state and conservative area democrats who have seen in the past when theyve voted for gun control type bills, theyve been voted out of office. So this is something that in some ways they want to keep in a very narrow section. They want there to be areas where there is both bipartisan support for things like fixing background checks, but when you talk about putting more guns in schools or arming teachers, then you enter a more politically thorny environment and it will be harder to get a bill passed. In places like atf where they have had issues with some of these shootings having missed these red flags, a Work Study Group of some kind who studies that and looks to how it can be improved would be helpful, too. They were told january 5 and there was no action taken. That clearly has to be addressed. That may be a separate issue completely. Just where we began this discussion with kids i keep calling them kids these students who keep bringing up this discussion, how can you counter that if you are the white house or if you are guns rights advocates . How do you need to address that, kaitlyn . What is the difficulty . It is difficult, and i bring up the attention that this is getting, right . We have seen i am really curious to see how democrats try to kind of harness this the momentum and energy among young folks. Thinking about a lot of these students who are seniors in high school potentially eligible to vote at some point, whether that is kind of the goal instead of right now, legislation right now, whether elections are the goal. Stand by for one minute. It is a painful day in florida as more victims killed in the Parkland School shooting are laid to rest. Liberty mutual saved us almost 800 when we switched our auto and home insurance. Liberty did what . Yeah, they saved us a ton, which gave us a little wiggle room in our budget. I wish our insurance did that. Then we could get a real babysitter instead of your brother. Hey, welcome back. This guy, right . laughs yes. Ellen. Thats my robe. You could save 782 when liberty stands with you. Liberty mutual insurance. And with ancestrydna liveson sale for just 69, now is the time to discover yours. 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This group, basically through social media organizing and telling their friends and neighbors to come here to the white house north lawn, and theyre staging what they call a diein here. Just a few minutes ago before we came to you live, they read off the list of victims of gun violence in schools over the past decade, and then this group of young people, these are all students in high schools in the area, laid down on the ground in front of the white house, a white house that i should point out is still displaying a flag at half staff in honor of those victims of the parkland shooting. What theyre attempting to do here is represent the number of young people that have been killed as a result of gun violence in schools across the country. Their message is pretty clear, john. They want members of congress to take action, and specifically they want them to take action to write and pass into law stricter controls for firearms across the country. They believe that is the big problem here, and that theyre sick of members of Congress Talking about this and not doing anything. Weve seen some shirts that have said enough of your thoughts and prayers, it is time for action. As you can see here, john, this is a pretty dramatic moment of symbolism for these young people trying to send a message to their members of congress. John . Ryan, i dont know if you had a chance to speak with any of the people out there now, but is this something they intend to keep up for a period of time with a march coming in washington on march 24 . Absolutely, john. I think what these young people have expressed here today is that different than some other kind of flashpoint moments in the debate over gun control, they dont want this one to just fade away, that they are not going to just give up on their calls for new laws as it relates to gun control, that theyre going to continue the fight and that theyre going to be in the face of these members of congress and the president of the United States who they feel at this point are not doing enough. Its worth pointing out, john, that many of these young people who are lying down on the ground, many of them probably not even old enough to vote yet, as were many of the victims of the shooting in florida, they want to make it clear to members of congress that in the not too distant future, they will be one of these voters who will be casting votes in these crucial election. In particular, the 2020 race for president. Theyre going to make their voices heard, theyre going to put the pressure on. Theyre going to lobby members of congress. As you mentioned, a big rally planned in washington, d. C. In the coming weeks. These young people do not plan on going away, and this symbolic move, although it is symbolic at this point, they hope it turns into real action. Theyre specifically pointing to members of congress, though, john. They think now is the time for action to take place. Ryan nobles outside the white house. Again, as we look at the live pictures of this protest, High School Students in the washington, d. C. Area with a liein outside the white house now. Right now two families are saying goodbye to their 15yearold children. They were both freshmen at Marjory Stoneham Douglas High School. Diane is near where one of those funerals is being held. Diane . Reporter yeah, john, two freshmen in high school today, those funerals, the service for elaine petty is happening in the church behind me right now. Her family described her as quick to smile. She was kind to others. They say she dedicated her very short life to service for others. She was in jrotc. She was active with her church family. After hurricane irma, she went and helped to rebuild. One other member of this congregation of this church, ali milford, was injured in this shooting. She is still in the hospital recovering, but we hear her parents are going to leave the hospital to pay their respects to this 13yearold girl. Luke hoyer, 15, his family described him as a good guy. His aunt told People Magazine he didnt know what he wanted to do. He was a 15yearold kid. He was excited to be in high school. He liked lebron james, he liked basketball, he liked hanging out with his friends. Really, thats what resonates with these people. Their lives were so short. And alaina petty will be talked about, what she was able to accomplish in her short years. Several members are here at this funeral today. Peter wang is being hailed as a hero. His last moments were sacrificed for others. He held the door open so people could escape when the shooter was in the school. They have a petition up and they hope he will at least get recognition. His funeral is tomorrow. Thank you so much, diane. Well be right back. Any chance of an upgrade . Any chance of an upgrade . Upgrade . Pretty please . Look into my eyes. Could be twins. Have you thought about being a model . Dont upgrade your seat. Upgrade your airline. Fly emirates. The best Economy Class in the world. Hey, need fast try cool mint zantac. It releases a cooling sensation in your mouth and throat. Zantac works in as little as 30 minutes. Nexium can take 24 hours. Try cool mint zantac. No pill relieves heartburn faster. My ci can worry about it,ine. Or do something about it. Garlique® helps maintain healthy cholesterol naturally. And its odor free. And pharmacist recommended. Garlique. ® this may change any second, but look at the president s twitter feed. So far no mention of this, a pending plea agreement for a former top Trump Campaign aide. Cnn was the first to report last week that rick gates is finalizing a deal with the special counsel. It could happen as early as this week. The tradeoff, as reported this weekend by the los angeles times, a lighter sentence in exchange for his testimony against paul manafort. Shimon porcupesz with the latest on this. Shimon, tell us what we can expect on this deal. Reporter it appears things are moving rather quickly in this case. We reported last week that gates and his attorneys have been negotiating with the special counsel about a month, work to go reach a deal where he would flip and cooperate with robert mueller. In fact, sources have told us gates has already done a wideranging interview with muellers team and essentially told them everything he knows about his codefendant, paul manafort, and likely other information he has pertaining to the special counsel investigation. This would make him the third person connected to the president to flip and team up with prosecutors and investigators. And it means gates essentially would have to agree to testify against manafort and anyone else who is eventually charged. So is it, though, shimon, really just about the manafort piece of this investigation, or will it drift in to the white house and perhaps the president himself . It could. John, when defendants sign these kinds of deals, they have to come in to speak to investigators and they essentially have to tell them everything they know about any crimes that have been committed. So essentially anything that he knows that the special counsel would be investigating would have to be something rick gates would have to tell them. So yes, it could. It could spread into anything else that is within the purview of the special counsel and that the special counsel is investigati investigating. Shimon porcupecz, thank you very much. The president spent most of his weekend shuttered inside with what critics call an unusually large tweet rant. Quote, if it was the goal of russia to create discord, disruption and chaiyasombat os within the u. S. , then with all of the committee earings, investigations and party hatred, they have succeeded beyond their wildest dreams. They are laughing their asses off in moscow. Get smart, america. No porn stars there at all. Our bar is quite high. We saw the president writing extensively this weekend. It was a statement made by a Deputy Press Secretary, though, that really put this all in perspective. Listen to hogan gidley. There are two groups that have created chaos more than the russians, and thats the democrats and the Mainstream Media who continue to push this lie on the person people for more than a year, and quite frankly, americans should be outraged by that. So to me that said everything, that even after 13 indictments from the special counsel, Jonathan Martin, the Deputy Press Secretary is saying, you know what . Its still not the russians, its still the democrats and the media. Its an outrageous statement that any other presidency of either party would be wildly condemned by folks on capitol hill, there would be calls for the staffers head. But were not in a traditional presidency now, so we all kind of move on. How many members of congress do you think even notice that . How many would even know who that is . There is so much every day in this gusher of news that sometimes we overlook these statements that are quite remarkable and basically a paid white house staffer saying that the u. S. Media and the Opposition Party were somehow worse actors than a foreign adversary. A multimilliondollar spy ring trying to hack the election. Exactly. But its so par for the course here. Bob dole once said, where is the outrage, right . Hes still saying that, as far as im concerned. Hogan gidley said what he said. The president was criticizing aspects of the investigation. Listen to what rush says. The danger for the president is, it would be very seductive for him to embrace this. See, see, ive been vindicated. The worst thing he could do in his world is validate this whole investigation by claiming victory here. Because what if, down the road, there is another indictment or a series of indictments that do name trump or do name the russians and Trump Campaign colluding, because thats what this is about. So its interesting, because the president did say, aha, look at this, there is no allegation of collusion inside this indictment, im vindicated, but Rush Limbaugh says thats a trap. Right, and if you look at rosensteins comments, a lot of people were pointing to the way in which he said, this indictment does not show collusion. We know the president is unable to separate out allegations of collusion with russian meddling in the campaign as some republicans on capitol hill have been able to say, look, were not questioning the results of this election, but we do have to look into ways we can safeguard the u. S. From this happening. Again, especially when you have the intelligence chief saying just last week in front of congress that this is continuing to go on. My question, though, kind of heading forward is, how long does the president kind of keep pinting to this, and does he still have those allies in congress who are continuing to kind of undermine the investigation as it continues, kind of still try to muddy the waters. I think that might give us a view of how hes still thinking about this. I think one thing that gives a view of how hes thinking about this is he was nonstop all weekend writing about it, Free Association with anything and everything. And as usual, he does himself absolutely no favors, particularly the connection of it to the shooting, which is a tragedy and youre using it as a political gain. I would say the phenomenonof not being able to tell the difference between meddling and collusion is not a phenomenon. There have been comments hysterical and some of them from russian sources, and i think we need to be tempered about that. I am not backing up the spokesperson who said its worse, im just saying the coverage of the topic has been a bit overdone at times. The normally private Rex Tillerson talks about his life, his relationship with the president and other issues in a pretty candid interview with 60 minutes. Stick around. We are the tv doctors of america, and we may not know much about medicine, but we know a lot about drama. We also know that you can avoid drama by getting an annual checkup. So go, know, and take control of your health. It could save your life. Cigna. Together, all the way. 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Our whole administration is to work with republicans in the house and senate, to work with democrats in the house and senate and find a way to build this wall and to solve the daca problem and reform our immigration system. Its absolutely imperative we do it. Daca protections were set to expire on march 5th before the courts got involved. Scott pruitt postponing a flight to israel amid complaints of expensive flights hes taken. Pruitt would have stayed at a fivestar hotel as he meets israels economic challenges. He has been talked about buying everything first class. Rex tillerson says were not using a carrot to get north korea talk. The president communicates in his own style, his own way, his own words. From time to time i will ask him, are you changing the policy . Because if we are, obviously i need to know and Everyone Needs to know. You would have thought he would talk to you about changing the policy before he tweeted. And to finish the thought, that has never happened. Every time i talk to him, he says, no, the policy hasnt changed, and im good. Thats all i need to know. Hes taking a victory lap because the policy wasnt changed on twitter, unbeknownst to him. You would think there would be a concern that the policy was changed on twitter unbeknownst to him. People are seeing these tweets and wondering if trump is changing the policy. Are we on the brink of car with north korea or some other crisis . No one can figure out at a moments notice, are we changing the policy . Its clear from that interview that the secretary of state finds out changes on world policy from twitter, and thats not the way the world wants to find out. Hes admitting he doesnt know whether the president is changing policy on twitter, and then hes expressing relief to find out after the fact, or satisfaction. Almost like a victory lap. Yes. It wasnt changed without me. I just find that weird. This is a terrible, terrible way of doing business. This isnt the way its supposed to be . Professionalize it, man. Theyre not going to do that, i understand, thats not how this president works. Were all playing a new game now, learning new rules, but particularly on foreign policy, make the policy before you tweet the policy, brief everyone on the policy. There is merit in doing everything well and right, and the way the swamp has done them in the past which involves these policies. If the swamp includes the secretary of state and the president changing policy, its not the worst of the swamp. The secretary of state was asked repeatedly about the comments he made last summer where he called the president a moron. He was asked to deny whether or not he said it. And he wouldnt. He said, oh, thats been asked and answered, im not going to dignify that question with a response. It was sort of fascinating. It was so fascinating for exactly what he didnt say or wouldnt say or intentionally didnt want to engage. Weve seen him kind of dismiss that before. I think to the point were all talking about this not communication between the secretary of state and the white house comes amid the backdrop of continued questions about Rex Tillersons own future. When you have several months questions about whether your secretary of state is going to continue on in this role, those questions still persisting, it was clear we all know he doesnt do these kinds of interviews. This was a different kind of thing, and it was as if he wanted to assert himself in some way a year into this tenure while questions still remain about the status of his tenure. Hes there 13 months now and going, outlasting what a lot of people thought would happen. Up next, dozens of staffers in the white house operate with only interim security clearances, but thats about to change this week. Could it threaten the president s soninlaw, Jared Kushner . My cholesterol is borderline. I can worry about it, or do something about it. Garlique® helps maintain healthy cholesterol naturally. And its odor free. And pharmacist recommended. Garlique. ® new security clearance for teachers go into effect at the white house this week. John kelly is overriding it in the wake of the tragedy. Will the new protocol threaten the standing of Jared Kushner, the president s Senior Adviser, and maybe more importantly, his soninlaw . Not so, says a white house official now. Jonathan martin, obviously, look, the president can give anybody clearance he wants to give clearance to right now. They say its not directed at Jared Kushner but he seems to be the one more drebtirectly at is. A Senior Adviser with top secret documents that doesnt have clearance. He is is woworking with sens issues regarding security, but again, it sort of speaks to this issue about the unconventional white house, were a yearplus in now, and the top person there doesnt have a security clearance and keeps amending his Financial Disclosures over and over and over again, and has lawyered up because he may have some kind of jeopardy we dont know when the special counsel. And this is the kind of world that were in. So i would have to say, to be totally blunt with you, john, the fact he has not yet gotten a clearance doesnt shock me. There was a call from abby lowell, his counsel on this. Which is a highpowered attorney. Do we feel like hes out of the woods now, the chief of staff, after being on the rocks last week with the rob porter mess . Is this the way to move past it . Hes going to try. Perhaps the news cycle changed in a significant way. The rob porter story was not the fbis part where they flagged these things, it was the white houses dealing with the flagging. In the case of Jared Kushner, the issue is not what they are giving him, its how the white house deals with that. The president can make this choice, but i think its a problem for them because it is going to center on jared if youre truly going to fix that process. That seems to be the i go issue here. Yes, there are dozens of others involved but he seems to be the one. Lets go back, if we can, to talk about russia a little bit more on the investigation. After the indictments came out on friday, the president S National Security adviser h. R. Mcmaster speaking overseas basically said what the intelligence agencies and others have been saying for a long time, yeah, russia did it. Listen to this. As you can see with the fbi indictment, the evidence is now really incontrovertible and available in the public domain. Hang on one second, guys. This is the shooter in florida who killed 17 people last week at parkland, florida at the Marjory Stoneham Douglas High School. This is a Court Appearance he is facing right now. My understanding is this is just some procedural issues, sealing and unsealing of documents in the case. The hearing will be held before judge scherer on the matter right now. We dont know much more about what to expect or if we will hear it, but that is what you are looking at right now. Are we going to stay on this for a little bit, or do you want to okay, heres what were going to do. Were going to take a quick break. Well be right back with much more on this just ahead. With liberty, we could afford a real babysitter instead of your brother. Hey oh, thats my robe. Is it . When you switch to liberty mutual, you could save 782 on auto and home insurance. And still get great coverage for you and your family. Call for a free quote today. You could save 782 when liberty stands with you. 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In the meantime my panel is still here with me. Talulah, again, as were watching this right now we are engaged in this National Discussion as to why it happened, and to keep it from happening again, we are stuck with these images of evil. We will continue to see these images unlike previous past shootings where the shooter died, like the one in las vegas, in texas where the shooter was killed right there on the scene. In this case we have the shooter who survived the event and its going to go through courtroom proceedings. This is going to keep people talking about, does he deserve the Death Penalty and also whatever policies need to change in order to stop this from happening. We may at some point hear from him about moeftives, about whatever Mental Health issues hes going through, and that may allow for the conversation that members of the school want to keep talking about. It will help it not get lost in the rush of news we have in our current news cycle. We will be seeing these images for week, if not months, to come. Kaitlyn, i am struck by this where we saw students in the washington, d. C. Area lying down at a liein, trying to get the government to change what they see as gun laws not protecting them. Exactly. And that planning the march event, march on washington, so to speak, next month. We have seen out of these instances, especially with sandy hook, you have really compelling figures come out of this to try to affect change. But with the sandy hook families, i remember covering the 2013 version of that background check bill. They would lobby members of congress, go to their offices, have these really heartfelt conversations and still there wasnt the support in the senate at that time for a background check bill despite the efforts of these really compelling figures. Well see if this is different. I think you bring up a great point that this case will offer a lot of different data points that werent available in others. Mary catherine hamm, you brought up fascinating points when we went to commercial before, for these students who are asking for the government, demanding change from the government right now. Theyre injecting themselves in the middle of something right now and they might not be fully aware of the consequences. They have moral authority, they have righteous anger with so many good reason. They are also minors who have just gone through an incredibly traumatic experience, and as someone who has seen these experiences in the public eye, it is a tricky thing, and i imagine their parents, teachers and activists who are working with them are cognizant of that and i hope they have Mental Illness professionals around them to support them. I think a lot of people will think there is no political downside for the things theyre asking for, but there will be talk of bans. It will not be all targeted, narrow solutions, and though that will come with a bunch of moral authority, in the political realm does that play as well, democrats and many who have to deal with these red states where trump won might find thats not the case. I hope they all find time to grieve. I want them to take the time they need to get over this. Maybe one of the ways of grieving for them is activism. And the fact he was taken alive, which is strange, i hope offers some closure to families as well. We are watching the hearing for this shooter in ft. Lauderdale. You were saying the killer did survive this shooting and is going to be in the court system at least through this calendar year. Keep in mind the implications that could have politically this fall in florida where youve got a top flight governors race, and if rick scott runs, its a major senate race in addition to three competitive house races, too. It could be very much elevated this fall against the backdrop of the puerto rico hurricane which brought thousands of folks to the mainland. The president s comments about haitians which have really stirred the haitian community. Now youve got gun safety. Theyll have to grieve as best they can. Thanks for joining us at this Court Hearing in ft. Lauderdale right now. Right there the killer from the School Shooting in parkland. Wolf blitzer picks up our coverage right now. Hello, im wolf blitzer. Its 1 00 p. M. Here in washington. From wherever youre watching from around the world, thanks so much for joining us. Lets begin with the breaking news. The parkland, Florida Shooter is back in court. Hes making an appearance in a ft. Lauderdale courtroom in a procedural hearing right now. Youre seeing live pictures coming in. Were also learning today that the shooter was able to obtain at least 10 rifles. Because of his age, he was unable to acquire any handguns, you have to be 21 years old to get a handgun, but an